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Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 24 April 2024

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Hi there, I am a long term reader of Wikipedia. this was my 1st attempted edit. I felt that it was important to give more information about the cancelling of Asna Tabassum, 2024 Valedictorian at USC, reflecting who she is. (I find her a remarkable inspiration!) I saw this interview of her from Wednesday 4 24 24 on Democracy Now, and was very moved by what she shared. I wanted to learn more and went on Wiki, but found little info about her. So I attempted to add a few quotes, that would help readers understand more of the issue around this Valedictorian speech cancellation, a 1st in USC history. Here is the edit I offered: Please feel free to include it or not, and correct formatting or not. Warm Regards, Dr. Suzanne Lerner PS I tried to copy the citation format, but have no previous experience coding, so I did my best. Feel free to change it.

Not done: — hako9 (talk) 03:11, 24 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Southern California

USC claimed they were cancelling their invitation for Asna to give the USC 2024 Valedictorians speech, due to safety reasons. Asna was given no details as to what the security threats or what the security concerns were. When she asked for details regarding the security concerns — for example, were they security concerns about her or her classmates? — She was offered no information and was told it was not appropriate for her to know.

Asna was chosen out of a group of 100 students with a GPA > than 3.9, Asna has a Major in Bio-Medical Engineering, and a Minor is Resistance to Genocide. As she stated in an interview recorded Wednesday, 4 24 24 on Democracy Now: "I see my major and my minor working together, for the very same goal, is that, you know, my minor in resistance to genocide allows me to study the human condition at possibly one of its worst conditions, and then biomedical engineering is my way of learning technically how we can improve the human condition through increasing health accessibility." While some groups used an article she had posted a link to, to claim that she was promoting a one State solution, Asna points out that in the very next paragraph, "there are paragraphs and information relating to the two-state solution, as well...as the one-state. The sentence right after the one you just quoted (about a possible one state solution) talks about coexistence between Arabs and Jews." Asna added that "In no way am I advocating for hate. I am only advocating for human equality and for the sanctity of human life when I say that Palestinians, as well as Jews, as well as Muslims and Armenians and anyone else who is invested in this conflict, has the equal right to life and the equal privilege of the fullest extent to life."

^[1] Suzanne2.0 (talk) 01:28, 24 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Note: There is no consensus on the reliability of Democracy Now, and attribution is recommended if it is used as a source. It would probably be best to use a different source, which should be easy to find since this has been widely covered.

Aside from that, the details seem a bit out of scope for this article. This amount of context could be useful in an article about her, this event, or the USC protests in general - but in this case we probably don't need more than a sentence or two. Jamedeus (talk) 02:42, 24 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Should "Unrest" be a term?

Protests have turned violent in some cases. Should the term "Unrest" be used? SpringField23402 (talk) 15:43, 24 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Cite your source on the protests turning violent. elijahpepe@wikipedia (he/him) 14:40, 25 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

How do you cite? SpringField23402 (talk) 14:53, 25 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Just copy-paste the link to the source here if you want. Or read WP:CITE -My, oh my! (Mushy Yank) 09:42, 26 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

https://www.nytimes.com/live/2024/04/24/us/columbia-protests-mike-johnson SpringField23402 (talk) 12:48, 26 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks. @ElijahPepe, I can't read the full article; if you can, can you reply? Thanks. -My, oh my! (Mushy Yank) 17:47, 26 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you. The claim that the protests are growing violent was made by speaker Mike Johnson, who was attempting to amplify his message. Until several sources have claimed so, it woukd not be prudent to state the protests are violent. I support using "civil unrest" to reflect the increasing conflict between protesters and law enforcement, however. elijahpepe@wikipedia (he/him) 17:54, 26 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

So that's a yes? Unrest should be a term in this event? SpringField23402 (talk) 18:13, 26 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Civil unrest. elijahpepe@wikipedia (he/him) 19:15, 26 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Got it SpringField23402 (talk) 19:38, 26 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

International?

I'm seeing reports of solidarity encampments at universities in France, Italy and Australia. Is there a separate page for that? Kire1975 (talk) 21:07, 24 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Kire1975: The page has been renamed with a wider scope, so it's no longer restricted to US universities. Boud (talk) 01:47, 26 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

What rename do you refer to? I see "April 2024 pro-Palestinian protests across US universities, which seems to still be very US exclusive (contrary to the "International" subheader)

(later edit: It seems it was changed and now turned back to US, you can ignore this reply)

Speederzzz (Talk) (Stalk me) 12:28, 26 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

What can I do with photos we took at the University of Texas at Austin protest?

I'd like them to be used on the page somewhere, if it is possible.

How could this be done? Irisoptical (talk) 23:11, 24 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Irisoptical: Upload them to Wikimedia Commons. elijahpepe@wikipedia (he/him) 00:59, 25 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Heyo! Do I have the rights to those photos then? I don't want to get into any legal trouble for taking pictures of the protest or police at the protest. I really want to show people what happened though. Irisoptical (talk) 08:15, 26 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, if you took the photos then you own the rights to them. As far as I'm aware there's nothing illegal about taking photos of a protest in Texas. TheAmazingRaspberry (talk) 11:33, 26 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

thank you! I'll get to it right away. Any tips on adding them to pages? I know this page is locked but I would like to have one of my pictures added once I add them to wikipedia Irisoptical (talk) 18:46, 26 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I can handle adding your photographs once you upload them. elijahpepe@wikipedia (he/him) 19:14, 26 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

kk Irisoptical (talk) 23:49, 26 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hello there, I uploaded 3 photos just now and will link them below. I'd like at least one of them to be used, and feel like each of the three have some sort of use somewhere.

File:Protest Image UT Austin (3).jpg - Wikipedia

File:Protest Image UT Austin (2).jpg - Wikipedia

File:Protest Image UT Austin (4).jpg - Wikipedia

Again, thanks so much for your help! Irisoptical (talk) 00:49, 27 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Irisoptical: I incorporated one of your photographs into the infobox. Thank you. elijahpepe@wikipedia (he/him) 03:03, 27 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for your help! Glad to contribute. UnrealJett (talk) 06:39, 27 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

what Irisoptical (talk) 01:43, 28 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

We need to flesh out more of these university subsections

Obviously when this settles down of course, and while information is flowing in we can continue to fill in each subsection as necessary.

But some of these protests might have only one source referencing them and could probably be concatenated into a single section of "Other colleges", when this settles down (whenever that happens).

Some of these schools could probably be their own wikipages at this point too. User:Sawerchessread (talk) 02:06, 25 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I am currently doing a rewrite now. elijahpepe@wikipedia (he/him) 02:22, 25 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Uni of Copenhagen source(s)?

There's only a Fediverse video for yesterday's solidarity protest at the University of Copenhagen. Any proper sources? Boud (talk) 18:49, 25 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

International-sources

Not sure how merge proposal or page scope will be dealt with; ~~the article has no Outside US section so far but~~ see above. So here are some sources if anyone feels like ~~creating a section and~~ adding them:

-Paris

-Rome

Best, -My, oh my! (Mushy Yank) 09:51, 26 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

International section is here to add content to. CommunityNotesContributor (talk) 09:56, 26 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Cheers, I had missed it! -My, oh my! (Mushy Yank) 11:17, 26 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Done .....But now the page has been moved with a title restricted to 'US',,,,can we address this? @CommunityNotesContributor and Makeandtoss:-My, oh my! (Mushy Yank) 11:38, 26 April 2024 (UTC) (As for overcite, feel free to remove the sources you think redundant)[reply]

I think this is fine and was the right move by @Makeandtoss. It was premature to rename the article (without consensus) when the topic is predominantly US universities. Just because there has been a few international protests this doesn't warrant a name change, mainly because these international protests are not notable enough to have their own article. Pinging @ElijahPepe who made the original move. [1] CommunityNotesContributor (talk) 11:47, 26 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, I am also unaware of any major student protests taking place outside of US that has garnered significant coverage. Either way, the US protests deserves a standalone article per the WP:Notability guideline. Makeandtoss (talk) 11:57, 26 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

No one is arguing the U.S. protests do not deserve an article, but rather that this is a worldwide phenomenon. elijahpepe@wikipedia (he/him) 14:31, 26 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I think at some point we should extend it to all protest once we have enough good coverage, but I’m not sure if that point has been reached. FortunateSons (talk) 12:39, 27 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Agree I do not yet see significant coverage (for notability) of protests outside the US to have it's own article as it were. CommunityNotesContributor (talk) 12:44, 27 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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April 2024 Israel–Hamas war protests on university campuses in the United States → ? – Opening this move request to gauge consensus on a better title. elijahpepe@wikipedia (he/him) 14:14, 26 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Support changing the title, specifically by merging the article into Pro-Palestinian protests on university campuses in the United States. JohnAdams1800 (talk) 22:14, 26 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

This is the wrong place to suggest a merge. elijahpepe@wikipedia (he/him) 22:53, 26 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Global University movement for Palestine
Global University protests for Palestine

There are protest reported from all over the world’s univercities, not only from US!

sources to back my claim:

https://www.aljazeera.com/amp/news/2024/4/26/are-us-campus-protests-against-israels-war-on-gaza-going-global

Australia, UK, France, Italy. Grabup (talk) 04:46, 27 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Support 2024 US college anti-war protests for conciseness. Maybe replace "anti-war" with "anti-Israel" or "Israel–Hamas war" here. The current title is definitely too long. NasssaNser 06:43, 27 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

That's a good alternative in terms of concision if there's support for "anti-war" and "date + protests". Iskandar323 (talk) 06:53, 27 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Support 2024 Pro-Palestinian protests on university campuses in the United States as per prominent RS referencing (assuming this leads into May). RS are not calling these "Israel–Hamas war protests" as they are overwhelmingly pro-Palestinian. The pro-Israel protests referenced in the article are considered counter-protests and only notable within the context of the the pro-Palestinian protests. CommunityNotesContributor (talk) 12:58, 27 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Support, but remove 'in the United States'. While most of these have been in America, there are a significant amount of global protests as well. Personisinsterest (talk) 20:07, 27 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Support 2024 pro-Palestinian protests on university campuses without "in the United States" – the protests are pretty commonly referred to as pro-Palestinian in the sources, as noted. It's also misrepresentive and false balance to present the protests as being generically about the war, when the specific phenomenon in question is overwhelmingly pro-Palestinian protests, with whatever counter-protests only representing a minor and reactive phenomenon by comparison. Iskandar323 (talk) 20:29, 27 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose - The proposer did not state any reasons for the proposal. Kire1975 (talk) 21:26, 27 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Can't you think of some yourself? That it's lengthy, crap and imprecise all seem like prominent examples. Iskandar323 (talk) 21:37, 27 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

What's your rush? One will emerge eventually. Kire1975 (talk) 00:56, 28 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Comment — The correct title would be 2024 pro-Palestinian protests on university campuses, not 2024 Pro-Palestinian protests on university campuses. I generally support this title, but the 2024 is ambiguous. A proper title should be ideally decided before May 1. elijahpepe@wikipedia (he/him) 21:54, 27 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Ambiguous how? What other 2024 pro-Palestine protests on university campuses could it be confused with? If anything, all 2024 (pre-April) protests should be included as a background to avoid confusion. I otherwise agree that at this point, with several international protests, your suggestion seems the best and most supported so far. CommunityNotesContributor (talk) 13:04, 28 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Support 2024 pro-Palestinian protests on university campuses under the WP:CRITERIA of recognizability, naturalness and conciseness. While most of the protests are at US universities, several are in other parts of the world. While the protests do object to the war and are opposed to the genocide, describing them as pro-Palestinian is common in the sources. Boud (talk) 01:25, 28 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Support renaming the title, Oppose attempts to merge this with larger scale pages because this has quickly evolved past a few college protests Irisoptical (talk) 01:42, 28 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Support renaming: my suggestion is Pro-Palestinian encampment protests on university campuses. Even though some protests mentioned in the article aren't encampments, the encampment aspect is without a doubt the defining aspect of the movement and should be in the title. As a bonus, using "encampment" instead of just "protests" avoids having to use the year to disambiguate IMO. WikiFouf (talk) 20:18, 28 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Support renaming to 2024 pro-Palestinian protests on university campuses (possibly with the addition of 'encampment'.) Astronomyfortwo (talk) 21:51, 28 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Support 2024 pro-Palestinian protests on university campuses per Boud and Iskandar323. There are additional notable protest encampments popping up now in Canada and the UK; I don't see any reason to limit the article title to only the United States. Flip^and Flopped ツ 00:01, 29 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Barnard College and Rutgers University

Alongside Columbia University, Barnard is taking action to suspend those involved with the encampments. Additionally, there have been encampments occurring at Rutgers University in New Jersey.

These are possibly worth noting in the article 69.74.33.158 (talk) 17:19, 26 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Add Smith College

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Add Smith College in Northampton MA to the list
The protest there has been going on longer than most of the more publicized ones
https://theshoestring.org/2024/04/10/shut-down-this-genocide-inside-the-smith-college-sit-in/

Rmacleod18 (talk) 19:35, 26 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

That's from April 10th, before the Columbia encampment started this. The encampment had already been boing on for two weeks so it started in March. It does raise a good question about the title of this article. Is this page just for the Gaza protests that are in solidarity with the Columbia encampment that started on April 17th? or is it for anything that happened in April? If it's for the former, then this Smith College story should go to Pro-Palestinian protests on university campuses in the United States. What's the consensus? Kire1975 (talk) 01:42, 27 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The title of the article doesn’t mention Columbia. This is an on campus protest against the war that happened in April 2024. Just because Columbia was the first school to make headlines doesn’t mean we should ignore whatever campus protests happened before. Maybe there should be a section of other related protests 2601:193:8380:1630:7107:BA7B:B602:D8C2 (talk) 12:51, 27 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

It appears the encampment part ended on April 9 or 10, but since then there has been a non-encampment protest on April 21, after April 18. (source) I would say that qualifies Smith to be mentioned in the article (possibly with the earlier encampment briefly mentioned). TheAmazingRaspberry (talk) 02:29, 28 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

References

^ Goodman, Amy. "Meet USC Valedictorian Asna Tabassum: School Cancels Commencement Speech by Pro-Palestinian Student". Democracy Now. Retrieved 23 April 2024.

New encampment at Sonoma State University in California

Hi, could someone with edit access please add Sonoma State University in Rohnert Park, CA? SSU SJP set it up yesterday, April 26, and we're trying to get the word out! So far the campus police have left it alone. https://www.indybay.org/newsitems/2024/04/26/18865416.php AlynWolves (talk) 17:19, 27 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Are there any reports on this aside from the link you provided? This appears to be a self-published source, which are generally discouraged from being cited. TheAmazingRaspberry (talk) 19:15, 27 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Found a source and added it. Thanks for the heads up Alyn. Kire1975 (talk) 01:00, 28 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks, indymedia was the only source at the time of writing but they got an actual reporter there today. 107.209.18.166 (talk) 05:23, 28 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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I would like to request that the following material and sources, or some variation of it, be incorporated into the "In Texas" subsection, specifically the paragraph discussing the protests at UT Austin. This can replace some outdated information, such as that discussing the arrests on campus:

On April 24th 2024 non-violent protests were planned on the University of Texas at Austin campus by the Palestine Solidarity Committee, a registered student organization at the university. The protests drew a large crowd, which was later dispersed by Austin Police Department officers and Texas Department of Public Safety troopers, who were there as the request of the university and Governor Greg Abbott, who claimed the protests were anti-Semitic and unauthorized.^[1] 57 individuals were arrested for criminal trespassing, all of whom were later released without charge by mid-day April 26th.^[2] The law enforcement presence and subsequent arrests at the protests have since drawn criticism from both students and professors at the university.^[3]^[4]

Durchbruchmüller (talk) 01:04, 28 April 2024 (UTC) Durchbruchmüller (talk) 01:04, 28 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Edit request - Dickinson College

Students at Dickinson College began a Solidarity protest on the night of 4/25

https://www.pennlive.com/nation-world/2024/04/dickinson-students-stage-sit-in-to-show-solidarity-with-arrested-palestine-protesters.html Fernmyne (talk) 05:48, 28 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Pro-Palestinian protests on university campuses in the United States article

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As an FYI, due to a notable fork issue (as well as other issues), I was planning to WP:BLANKANDREDIRECT the Pro-Palestinian protests on university campuses in the United States to this article. Please respond on the talk page if you disagree and it can go to AfD if necessary. This is merely a courtesy notification that can be ignored. CommunityNotesContributor (talk) 19:03, 28 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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References

^ Rachel Treisman, Ayana Archie (25 April 2024). "Mass arrests roil college campuses amid pro-Palestinian protests". NPR. Retrieved 28 April 2024.
^ Seipp, Skye (26 April 2024). "Charges dropped against all 57 arrested in connection to UT-Austin pro-Palestinian protest". Austin American-Statesman. Retrieved 28 April 2024.
^ Simpson, Stephen (26 April 2024). "Campuses across Texas had pro-Palestinian demonstrations. Why did only UT-Austin crack down?". The Texas Tribune. Retrieved 28 April 2024.
^ Lily Kepner, Skye Seipp, Ella McCarthy, Serena Lin (24 April 2024). "UT-Austin students hold pro-Palestinian protest; at least 50 arrested". Austin American-Statesman. Retrieved 28 April 2024.{{cite news}}: CS1 maint: multiple names: authors list (link)

[1] Goodman, Amy. "Meet USC Valedictorian Asna Tabassum: School Cancels Commencement Speech by Pro-Palestinian Student". Democracy Now. Retrieved 23 April 2024.

[2] Rachel Treisman, Ayana Archie (25 April 2024). "Mass arrests roil college campuses amid pro-Palestinian protests". NPR. Retrieved 28 April 2024.

[3] Seipp, Skye (26 April 2024). "Charges dropped against all 57 arrested in connection to UT-Austin pro-Palestinian protest". Austin American-Statesman. Retrieved 28 April 2024.

[4] Simpson, Stephen (26 April 2024). "Campuses across Texas had pro-Palestinian demonstrations. Why did only UT-Austin crack down?". The Texas Tribune. Retrieved 28 April 2024.

[5] Lily Kepner, Skye Seipp, Ella McCarthy, Serena Lin (24 April 2024). "UT-Austin students hold pro-Palestinian protest; at least 50 arrested". Austin American-Statesman. Retrieved 28 April 2024.{{cite news}}: CS1 maint: multiple names: authors list (link)

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 :'''Support''' renaming to [[2024 pro-Palestinian protests on university campuses]] (possibly with the addition of 'encampment'.) [[User:Astronomyfortwo|Astronomyfortwo]] ([[User talk:Astronomyfortwo|talk]]) 21:51, 28 April 2024 (UTC)
-*'''Support''' ''2024 pro-Palestinian protests on university campuses'' per Boud. There are additional notable protest encampments popping up now in Canada and the UK; I don't see any reason to limit the article title to only the United States. [[User:Flipandflopped|<b style="color:Teal;">Flip</b>]][[Special:Contribs/Flipandflopped|<sup style="color:purple">and</sup>]][[User talk:Flipandflopped|<b style="color:lime">Flopped</b>]] [[Wikipedia:Civility|<b style="color:grey"> ツ</b>]] 00:01, 29 April 2024 (UTC)
+*'''Support''' [[2024 pro-Palestinian protests on university campuses]] per Boud and Iskandar323. There are additional notable protest encampments popping up now in Canada and the UK; I don't see any reason to limit the article title to only the United States. [[User:Flipandflopped|<b style="color:Teal;">Flip</b>]][[Special:Contribs/Flipandflopped|<sup style="color:purple">and</sup>]][[User talk:Flipandflopped|<b style="color:lime">Flopped</b>]] [[Wikipedia:Civility|<b style="color:grey"> ツ</b>]] 00:01, 29 April 2024 (UTC)
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