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Hi, I'm pretty sure it isnt originally from Kipling[http://en.wikiquote.org/w/index.php?title=Justice&diff=861707&oldid=818546], but it would be nice to see when he used it; it is so often attributed to him. A quick look around shows it is oft attributed to Lincoln[http://books.google.ca/books?q=%22Nothing+is+ever+settled+until+it+is+settled+right%22+lincoln], but the earliest verified printing of it is 1888, in a book by [[Abraham R. Howbert]]. It would be nice to trace this quote back through time; it's such an important concept. No doubt it will have roots into another language, like Latin. <span style="font-variant:small-caps">[[User:Jayvdb|John Vandenberg]] <sup>'''([[User talk:Jayvdb|chat]])'''</sup></span> 00:12, 28 November 2008 (UTC)
Hi, I'm pretty sure it isnt originally from Kipling[http://en.wikiquote.org/w/index.php?title=Justice&diff=861707&oldid=818546], but it would be nice to see when he used it; it is so often attributed to him. A quick look around shows it is oft attributed to Lincoln[http://books.google.ca/books?q=%22Nothing+is+ever+settled+until+it+is+settled+right%22+lincoln], but the earliest verified printing of it is 1888, in a book by [[Abraham R. Howbert]]. It would be nice to trace this quote back through time; it's such an important concept. No doubt it will have roots into another language, like Latin. <span style="font-variant:small-caps">[[User:Jayvdb|John Vandenberg]] <sup>'''([[User talk:Jayvdb|chat]])'''</sup></span> 00:12, 28 November 2008 (UTC)
:Thanks for that interesting info. I remember searching unsuccessfully for that quotation in Kipling. I came across it in an Agatha Christie book, where one of the characters attributes it to Kipling. [[User:ElinorD|ElinorD]] [[User talk:ElinorD|(talk)]] 00:34, 28 November 2008 (UTC)

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Licence for Image:AltafHussainSmallPic.jpg

Hello, I couldn't find a statement anywhere that it had been provided for public usage so removed the tagging. I had believed the uploader of the image just did not know how to tag the image so I tried to help. Sorry about the confusion. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Shehzadashiq (talkcontribs) 13:20, 16 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

The above named Arbitration case has closed.

You may refer to the case page to view the decision.

For the Arbitration Committee, - Penwhale | Blast him / Follow his steps 20:38, 17 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the revert on my userpage

I wouldn't want anyone to actually visit my ass, then take a left. That might hurt.--Isotope23 talk 13:02, 18 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

AfD needing closing

hi could you possibly, or ask someone else to, close the AfD Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Psychiatric abuse (second nomination) which has been going for 7 days and has already run once and was overturned at deletion review/ I think ones like that leave those involved in a misery of tenterhooks;) Hope you can help, or know someone who can.Merkinsmum 19:59, 18 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Image deletion

Can you please hlep me understand why a photo I took and uploaded was removed? The filename was Brianba20.JPG. It was linked to the Model military vehicle article. I haven't been able to find any history of the file being questioned nor any inquiry on my talk page asking about the status of the file. If I forgot to note the ownership of the file, OK, I can do that as I did with all my other images - but there was no warning given that I can find.

Thanks. DMorpheus 15:19, 24 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Correct PD tag for Image:Japanese3vil.jpg

I've seen you edit some of the copyright tag articles. Do you know what the tag for a public-domain UK/GB image is? This one is labelled US PD, but is inappropriate (both the author and jurisdiction would be UK). Please reply on my talk page. Thanks, John Smith's 20:56, 27 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Elinor

I've popped a note on Talk:Robert_Black_(professor) asking about the rationale for the removal of links to the subject's blog - could you take a quick look? Privatemusings 01:15, 28 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I think I probably caught you just as you logged out - you'll see that discussion has continued at the talk page. Privatemusings 03:00, 28 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks

Hi ElinorD:

I see you restored my question that got lost from the Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents page a little while ago. Thank you.

Looking through the history, there seem to be several such events today. Does this disappearance of material happen often?

Cheers, Wanderer57 21:35, 28 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

An invalid RfC that has been hanging over someone

Hi I know that User:Mattisse was found to have used some sock puppets years ago. However I feel something should happen to acknowledge the fact that Wikipedia:Requests_for_comment/Mattisse was invalid as the two people who supposedly had tried to resolve a dispute were in fact one user, and the whole RfC was set up by the notorious User:Ekajati. Also Mattisse doesn't seem to have used any sockpuppets for about a year. There is another RfC about her so it's not like she would be whitewashed, but "In order to remain listed at Wikipedia:Requests for comment, at least two people need to show that they tried to resolve a dispute with this user and have failed. " In this case they were the same user and proven to be so. I know that she feels that this RfC hangs over her head. So is there anything an admin could do? Such as delete/delist/permanently archive this rather invalid RfC?Merkinsmum 19:39, 31 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Speedy deletion of "Image:Portrait of a Killer cover.jpg" ‎

Hey, the deletion log for this file says you deleted this file. Can you please make an effort to not just delete things willy nilly, here, as there was no valid reason to remove this file. It was the cover of a book, used in an article about that book, for clear Fair Use reasons. If it wasn't tagged as such (probably because it had been uploaded before such tags existed), the description should have been there or the rationale should have been completely obvious. If you weren't going to take the time to examine whether it should stay or not, you could have at least made the effort to contact people involved with the page or who uploaded the file. Not doing so is a complete waste of time for everyone involved. If the image can be undeleted, please do so, and please revert your removal of the image from the article. If that is not possible, maybe you'd like to go back to Amazon, find the full size image, download it, and reupload it with the correct tag and put it back in the article. It only seems fair that you take your time to undo what you did improperly. DreamGuy 19:17, 1 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

deleted "Image:Vonbraun-portrait.jpg"

RE: 07:39, 23 October 2007 ElinorD (Talk | contribs) deleted "Image:Vonbraun-portrait.jpg" ‎ (Speedy deleted per (CSD I4), was an image lacking sources or licensing information for more than seven days. using TW)

Like you, I'm busy in Real Life, too. ;-)

Image of Dr. von Braun is (was) an official NASA photograph. NASA, the National Aeronautics & Space Administration is an agency of the Federal Government, and as such holds no copyright over the image (as are all NASA images) WSpaceport 02:03, 2 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Reply

I found this warning quite rude. However, let me assume some good faith that you did not give me, and explain why I did what I did. I know for a fact that the anonymous editor who posted this is a sock of another editor. I don't usually comment to someone as reprehensible as Ferrylodge, but given the sock, and the false accusation of another highly respected admin as a sock, it deserved a comment. You should have given me more good faith on this point, and quite possibly asked me what was my reasoning at a minimum. Threatening me with a block was just not right. OrangeMarlin Talk• Contributions 00:32, 13 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

One of the most damaging aspects of a disruptive editor — second only to how they burn out constructive editors — is that they often succeed in turning editors who would otherwise work very well together against each other. As the saying goes, "United we stand, divided we fall."
While I don't condone discourteous remarks to Ferrylodge, Ferrylodge has been anything but civil in the the past 11 months, something which the topic ban ArbCom currently seems to be leaning toward won't address in the least (nor will it address the POINT-ish edits, really, because they haven't been limited to just abortion- and pregnancy-related articles: Talk:Terri Schiavo and Talk:African American). The point is that, given the current situation, Ferrylodge should be treading a lot more carefully, but he's still coming on just as strong as ever. He doesn't know when to let things go, pushing Andrew c to the point of retreat yet again just yesterday,[1] and last week accusing me of "soapbox[ing] and propagandiz[ing]" for an unintentional error in formatting I made in January,[2] instead of just owning up to his own pattern of ideologically-motivated editing and trying to move past it. I think Andrew c was correct in his observation that Ferrylodge responds to criticism by pointing the finger right back at the critic.[3] If Ferrylodge won't even admit, let alone work to address, all the issues surrounding his conduct on Wikipedia, I don't see the ArbCom case as achieving much.
While we're at it, though, I do hope someone calls out Sbowers3 on his recent incivility toward OrangeMarlin.[4] Incivility does not license further incivility. -Severa (!!!) 04:35, 13 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

207.224.145.254: continued vandalism

Pardon the lack of format but I'm still new to much of the markup language for wikipedia. The following user ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:207.224.145.254 ) has continued to vandalize Black death after you warned him. Just letting you know if you want to take action. Thanks. JRDarby 21:58, 14 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

RfA

I considered not spamming talk pages but not saying "thanks" just isn't me. The support was remarkable and appreciated. I only hope that I am able to help a little on here. Please let me know if I can help you or equally if you find any of my actions questionable. Thanks & regards --Herby talk thyme 10:17, 16 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

My earlier accusations against you and calls for desysopping

I know it's a bit late as of now, but I never actually apologized to you about my accusations regarding your actions in deleting the File:Apo-crest.jpg, and my calls for desysopping. In retrospect, I went a bit too far here (like, WAY too far), and I was wrong, and I apologize about that. I see now that you do quite good work on Wikipedia, and hope you continue that work in the future.

As I look back on the situation, I think that what happened was that the user's talk page that was notified about the copyright problems was an inactive user, and posting a message to the article's talk page in addition to that user's talk page would have prevented the whole situation. But alas, that's just my observation. I trust your judgment in dealing with these issues. Dr. Cash (talk) 04:51, 17 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Would you take a look?

An image used in the article on the first Bangladeshi pornstar Jazmin, Image:WorshipThisBitch3.jpg, the cover of the DVD that made her the selling point, a first for a Bangladeshi, is up for deletion here. You may be interested to take a look. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Aditya Kabir (talkcontribs) 21:45, 16 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Merry Christmas

Wishing you the very best for the season - Guettarda 03:50, 25 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks. I'm a bit late to say the same thing, but Happy New Year! ElinorD (talk) 01:34, 15 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Leeds International School

Hi Elinor, I did a short article on Leeds International School back in October and checked it just now to find you (I think) had removed the picture that goes with it. It's no big deal, but I was just wondering why you did it? Is it a standard policy to remove pictures from rarely visited pages? Thanks —Preceding unsigned comment added by Felixgrey88 (talkcontribs) 18:02, 9 January 2008

Hi, I've looked into it. You uploaded the image on 27 September, but didn't add a copyright tag. We need the correct templates to show that an image is in the public domain, or released under a free licence, or that a good case can be made for invoking "fair use" for it. A bot came and marked it with {{untagged}} an hour later. The bot also left a note on your talk page, telling you where to look for information about appropriate copyright tags, and where to ask for help if you were stuck, but you seem not to have been on Wikipedia since then, so you missed the message until it was too late. Images that have the {{untagged}} on them go into a queue for automatic deletion, after an appropriate amount of time has passed to allow the uploader or another interested party to supply the missing information and remove the template. If that doesn't happen, and administrator, working through the backlog, will delete it, along with dozens, or even hundreds, of others. I deleted it on 5 October, when I was working my way through images waiting to be deleted. I'm rather busy at the moment, so I can't help you much, but if you want to upload it again, or if you'd like me to undelete it, just say so. But in that case, you'll need to put the correct tag (probably {{Non-free logo}} on it, and to explain why you feel that the use of it in that article is fair use. The information the bot left on your talk page should help you in finding where to find out more and where to ask questions. Cheers. ElinorD (talk) 01:34, 15 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Hey

Hope all is well.  :) --Iamunknown 22:28, 13 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, thanks. Just very caught up with real life commitments. Hope all is well with you. ElinorD (talk) 01:34, 15 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

My Rfa

I wish to thank you for being supportive of my effort to regain my adminship. Though it was not successful, your support was still very much appreciated. Let me know if there is anything I can do for you. Thank you!--MONGO 06:05, 27 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Hiya! I was wondering if you'd be willing to restore the image Image:WOIO CBS 19 Cleveland logo.png. I'd glady be able to put the source information and proper copyright/fair-use tags on it if the image were un-deleted. If you can't, that's ok. :) RingtailedFoxTalkContribs 20:32, 11 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Actually, i could find the sources for the images on the following link if they were re-uploaded... [5]RingtailedFoxTalkContribs 20:37, 11 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Repeat vandal

Hey, someone from IP address 216.159.27.1 is becoming a problem again. They have been vandalizing again. You have written to this user before in October 2007. Their latest was Healthcare reform and Grand View College. Thanks. Kevinsanders (talk) 05:26, 15 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Fresh baked bread! :)

Heya Elinor! Just stumbled upon your page and saw that you have a penchant for making fresh bread. Nomnomnom.... I've been in a bit of a baking mood as of late and was wondering if you had any recipes to share? So far I'm up to banana bread in fanciness level ;) All the best, ~Eliz81(C) 04:47, 21 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Fresh baked admin!

Hello little Elinor! 'Zilla finally admin! [6] Bishapod go splat, little 'shonen locked in cellar, but STILL happiest day of Zilla life! (see Zilla page for details, don't tell gullible stewards!) Already done block! Considering standing for bureaucrat, little El support (HINT HINT)? bishzilla ROARR!! 22:30, 21 March 2008 (UTC).[reply]

Request for arbitration

A request for arbitration has been made on a matter in which you were involved. You may add yourself as a party and comment if desired at Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration#Appeal_of_commuity_ban_of_Iantresman. Thank you. Stifle (talk) 10:13, 10 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

The Novels WikiProject Newsletter - Issue XXIII - April 2008

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Piling more work on your overburdened shoulders

Last summer you were involved in blocking User:Nleobold -- I forget whether it was only for a day or if there was a permanent ban involved. Some discussion is at User talk:ElinorD/Archive05#Your block of Nleobold. Anyway, this user is back, as an anon, making the same completely improper edits to the same target articles, Jerrold Nadler (edit) and Deborah Glick (edit). I've rolled him back, but I'm not an admin and can't do any more than patrol the articles. I'll also alert User:Dogru144, who helped fend off Nleobold's last attack. If you could join in keeping an eye on these articles, and be ready with any warnings or blocks that may be appropriate, that would be great. Thanks for any help you can give! JamesMLane t c 07:12, 17 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

The Novels WikiProject Newsletter - Issue XXIV - May 2008

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Restore please

Can you please restore Image:New_York_GAA.jpg as it's clearly fair use and will at the tag as such Gnevin (talk) 16:20, 23 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Done. Please add the complete rationale as soon as possible. Thanks. ElinorD (talk) 16:23, 23 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks added rationale Gnevin (talk) 16:34, 23 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Welcome. ElinorD (talk) 16:35, 23 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Wikicookie

I am awarding you this WikiCookie for your constructive edits on Wikipedia--LAAFan 17:04, 23 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you. ElinorD (talk) 17:06, 23 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

You have recently deleted this image, which was the lead image for the article Fairey Gannet - I notice that no warning was left on the page - with the first warning people who were watching the page got of any problems was the photo actually being deleted. Please consider giving the editors of articles a chance to fix problems in future rather than just drive by deletion.Nigel Ish (talk) 22:24, 23 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

The person who uploaded the image was warned a week ago.[7] If you think you can tag the image appropriately, either to show that it's public domain (or otherwise has a free licence) or to claim a valid fair use for it, I'll be happy to undelete. ElinorD (talk) 22:30, 23 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Little Elinor back at last?!

Little El suddenly all over zilla watchlist, hooray! ['Zilla affectionately stuff little Elinor in pocket of Spiderman suit, leap nimbly from ledge to ledge up Reichstag] Hold on tight! bishzilla ROARR!! 21:12, 1 June 2008 (UTC).[reply]

Yay! I'm also glad to see you, Elinor! --Iamunknown 05:55, 4 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Image:Wstillphoto.jpg

You deleted Image:Wstillphoto.jpg, could you check if it is a larger version of Image:Wstillphotosmall.jpg. If it is, could you restore it as I have necessary source information for the image. BlueAzure (talk) 22:25, 3 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Talk history

Hi Elinor, I see you have replaced some more of SlimVirgin's talk page. Unfortunately I see one edit is missing, which was here, where I pointed out the pages to which SV had recently followed me. Was there a reason for omitting this one, or have I missed it? I believe it was February 2007. Thanks and regards, Mackan79 (talk) 15:31, 4 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I started a deletion review on the history of User talk:SlimVirgin. Yechiel (Shalom) 18:30, 8 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

pic on susham bedi page

hi Elinor, Susham bedi is an author, she has a wikipedia page. The picture of her on that page was provided by the author (susham bedi) herself to be used freely by anyone. That is the image I uploaded to her wikipedia page. That picture has been deleted numerous times and I dont know why. I'm not a wikipedia expert. I've navigated the labyrinth of licensing tag information on wikipedia and inasmuch as it made any sense to me I've tried to choose the right tags that reflect this situation (where the subject herself has taken a picture of herself and provided that for free for anyone to use). I dont know if I got the tags right, but that is the situation. If I didnt get the tags right, please help me get the tags right, rather than removing the pic altogether via 'speedy deletion'. I have to say its a bit frustrating to have to continuously fix this page for the picture or to navigate the labyrinth of legal mumbo jumbo just to put a free picture up on a free page...  ;) Anyhow if the situation is wrong now, please help me get get it right. thanks. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Jak68 (talkcontribs) 19:14, 8 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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Spam Tag Left

Hi I left a db-spam tag on Ultra DJ Management Looks this is not the first time. Just an FYI. BustOut (talk) 11:38, 8 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

How can I ensure that the Ultra Dj entry isn't deleted? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Absolutpiracy (talkcontribs) 11:53, 8 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Allegations of apartheid deletion notification

Some time ago, you participated in a deletion discussion concerning Allegations of Chinese apartheid. I thought you might like to know that the parent article, Allegations of apartheid, was recently nominated for deletion. Given that many of the issues that have been raised are essentially the same as those on the article on which you commented earlier, you may have a view on whether Allegations of apartheid should be kept or deleted. If you wish to contribute to the discussion, please see Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Allegations of apartheid (fifth nomination). -- ChrisO (talk) 18:00, 12 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Images

Hi,

You seem very up on this. I wonder what the deal is with images on Wp. It's so frustrating. For the sake an ideological stance on fair use, literally of masses of stuff has not photo. This is absurd. It seems Jimbo's idea, that we need to change the game and get images on free use, has totally crushed value of the end-user experience.

What do you think, and what is going on?

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WikiProject Novels Newsletter - September 2008

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Disputed non-free use rationale for Image:Lladro.jpg

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Disputed non-free use rationale for Image:Fontaninicrib.jpg

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If it is determined that the image does not qualify under the non-free content policy, it might be deleted by an administrator within a few days in accordance with our criteria for speedy deletion. If you have any questions, please ask them at the media copyright questions page. Thank you. Sfan00 IMG (talk) 13:59, 11 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Hai

86.136.40.11 (talk) 15:54, 21 October 2008 (UTC)

Accused of Vandalism 86.136.40.11 (talk) 15:54, 21 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

What am I alleged to have vandalised on the butter page?

FWIW I have no interest in this page and have NOT knowingly edited it, yet alone edited it in an unnecessary manner? 86.136.40.11 (talk) 15:54, 21 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

please restore Image:Timewarp.jpeg

You deleted Image:Timewarp.jpeg because it lacked a fair use rationale. Could you please restore Image:Timewarp.jpeg and add to it the following rationale: == Fair use image data == {{Non-free image data |Description = Cover of [[The Time Warp of Dr. Brain]] |Source = http://www.sierra.com/ |Portion = Game cover only. |Low_resolution = Sufficient resolution for illustration, but considerably lower resolution than original. |other_information = Intellectual property owned by {{#if: Sierra Entertainment | Sierra Entertainment | http://www.sierra.com/ }}. }} == Fair use rationale == {{Non-free image rationale |Article = The Time Warp of Dr. Brain |Purpose = Used for purposes of illustration in an educational article about the entity represented by the image.<br>The image is used as the primary means of visual identification of this article topic. |Replaceability = Image is protected by copyright, therefore a free use alternative won't exist. }} == Licensing: == {{Non-free game cover}}

Thank you. -- Eastmain (talk) 15:06, 24 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Done. Sorry about the delay. I haven't looked in very much recently. ElinorD (talk) 14:58, 11 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]


Slim Virgin

Well said [8]. Giano (talk) 18:02, 27 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you, Giano. There are times when the price of living with oneself after keeping silent seems higher than the price of speaking out, regardless of the consequences. ElinorD (talk) 18:04, 27 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, you are correct. I see they closed the page immediatly after you posted, and are now prepearing to excute the sentence. How bizarre it all is; I have a very grave feeling about it. I hope they know what they are doing. I rather suspect they do not. Giano (talk) 18:07, 27 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
I'll have to disagree with you there, and say the exact opposite. I hope they do not fully realise what they are doing, but I rather suspect they do - most of them anyway. :-( ElinorD (talk) 18:13, 27 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Nothing is ever settled till it is settled right

Hi, I'm pretty sure it isnt originally from Kipling[9], but it would be nice to see when he used it; it is so often attributed to him. A quick look around shows it is oft attributed to Lincoln[10], but the earliest verified printing of it is 1888, in a book by Abraham R. Howbert. It would be nice to trace this quote back through time; it's such an important concept. No doubt it will have roots into another language, like Latin. John Vandenberg (chat) 00:12, 28 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for that interesting info. I remember searching unsuccessfully for that quotation in Kipling. I came across it in an Agatha Christie book, where one of the characters attributes it to Kipling. ElinorD (talk) 00:34, 28 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]