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Barack Obama

My bad on the Obama II edit. Birth certifcate > popular usage. -- Gaius Octavius | Talk 12:31, 6 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

No problemmo. I think that the practise of numbering descendants with the same name is more common in America than it is here - as is the practise of naming your descendants exactly the same as yourself - but as you say, that's what's on his birth certificate, and if he hasn't changed it since then, then that's his legal name. - Richard Cavell (talk) 12:33, 6 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Speechless

So is Jenna, in her best scenes. Regardless, some of our best ideas are inspired by the morning light. Baseball Bugs ^{What's up, Doc?} 13:18, 6 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Hardcore Triangle

I would suggest to erase the history....? Just a suggestion.--Pmedema (talk) 16:07, 6 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, thanks. I've done that now. - Richard Cavell (talk) 19:57, 6 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Agro-/Agri-

Thanks for writing. Your improvement to my point of clarification looks great. Hopefully this will improve people's access to agricultural terminology (or is that agrocultural terminology?) Morganfitzp (talk) 23:52, 6 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Warped Tour 2004-2008

Hi, you closed the debate on these and the result was to keep all of the pages separate as per http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Warped_Tour_2004_(2nd_nomination)

I would like to know why a user just took it upon himself to merge them all if the result of this debate was to keep them all? Upon 2nd look, 2007 and 2008 were merged but the others weren't. It still seems to be an inproper move. DX927 (talk) 01:11, 8 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Mate, thanks for the message. I'm having a lot of trouble checking what he's done, because my browser and computer (Firefox/2nd generation MacBook) can't churn through the diffs - they are thousands of lines long with heaps of formatting and images. I might have to send this to the admin noticeboards or RfC for the technical problems I'm having. I left him a message. - Richard Cavell (talk) 02:03, 8 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Oh yeah, sorry. The only reason I merged 07 & 08 but not the others is simply a matter of me not having time to merge the others. It takes some time to get it all sorted and alphabetized, and I just didn't have the time to do the other ones, but I'm going to try to get around to it soon enough. Rwiggum (^Talk/_Contrib) 06:12, 8 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Why he's getting around to this is beyond me when it was already stated that all of the articles were going to be kept separate because no consensus was reached. Sorry that you're having issues checking up on it. Is there someone else I should take this matter to? DX927 (talk) 07:07, 8 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I've taken it to the Administrator's Noticeboards, and I suggest we wait for that. I imagine that someone running Internet Explorer would have a better time of it. I've also put in a report to Mozilla over Firefox's inability to handle the large tables. - Richard Cavell (talk) 07:16, 8 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I don't know about that, I'm using Firefox 3 on a macbook and it's working just fine for me. But to be clear, "no consensus" doesn't mean "keep". Likewise, I didn't even delete the articles. I was bold and I merged them. Also, like I already pointed out, the list isn't any longer than something like List of Playstation 2 games. Rwiggum (^Talk/_Contrib) 15:56, 8 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I don't know why I'm having technical problems, but they're entirely reproducible and I can't fix them. I appreciate what you're saying, but I still say that you acted without consensus. - Richard Cavell (talk) 19:51, 8 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Hmm, seems like nothing has been changed back yet. DX927 (talk) 19:43, 10 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Mate, I appreciate what you're saying, but I'm completely incapable of looking into it. I literally can't look at the diffs, so I can't investigate what he's done. Someone else on the Administrator's noticeboard says that he has the same problem with Firefox. - Richard Cavell (talk) 20:00, 10 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I think I was able to change everything back. I had to search "Warped Tour 2007" have it redirect me, click on the redirect link, then find the last edit before the move and copy/paste everything back while removing the redirect. Warped Tour 2007 and Warped Tour 2008 should be back to their normal page now. DX927 (talk) 06:42, 11 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Okay. I think that's best. The Administrators' Noticeboard wasn't very helpful... - Richard Cavell (talk) 06:43, 11 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Warped Tour

I understand that you closed the AFD as no consensus, but I didn't delete the article. I redirected it to a more comprehensive and usable list. Likewise, a LOT of the bands featured on the other articles weren't actually on the tour, since I cross-referenced those lists with the official Warped Tour lists and a good deal weren't actually present. I merged all of the bands that were on the tour with the article. Also, I don't think that length is too much of an issue, as it isn't much worse than an article like List of PlayStation 2 games, which is just as functional but much longer than this article. Rwiggum (^Talk/_Contrib) 03:51, 8 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

That IP you just blocked

Nice one. Maybe a little more time was in order though. Wikisaver62 (talk) 09:49, 8 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I think you misunderstood me. I meant that the IP should be blocked for far more than 48 hours, otherwise he/she will just wait two days then start again. Wikisaver62 (talk) 10:00, 8 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I see. Well i'll watch it for the next few days to see if anything happens once the block is removed. Wikisaver62 (talk) 10:03, 8 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Shane Crawford

Hey about your edit at Shane Crawford, the foxsports article clearly states in the intro: "just hours after re-signing for another year." To me that says he re-signed, then changed his mind. So i'm not sure what to put, just a thought. Thanks. k-i-a-c (hitmeup - the past) 02:49, 9 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Hi. The body of the text goes into more detail. A direct quote from Crawford himself says that he never actually signed it. He indicated to the club that he was going to sign, and on Friday someone from the club spoke about that event to the media, but from what he's saying, the pen never actually touched the contract. If we're going to use reliable sources and all that, I'd go with a direct quote from Crawford as definitive. I'm sure the journalist used a recording device; they always do. Also, Crawford's version of events is consistent and sounds way more plausible. - Richard Cavell (talk) 04:48, 9 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Alright, sounds good to me. We'll leave it as is then. k-i-a-c (hitmeup - the past) 05:48, 9 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Thankyou!

Thankyou for the very quick response you gave me about archiving a talk page.

Topology Expert (talk) 09:46, 9 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you

Thank you for explaining why I couldn't swap Wikipedia article names in the same way as swapping variables in a computer program, as I tried to do with Trop Rock and Tropical rock. I thought that the punctuation might have been the problem in my first attempt to create a temporary article name, so I tried again with an alternate spelling. That still didn't work, so I punted and asked for help at Wikipedia:Requested moves. That left the two temporary articles as artifacts. Thank you for deciphering what I tried to do and for deleting the artifacts. - Ac44ck (talk) 09:15, 16 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Don't worry, I'm a computer programmer too, and I saw straight away what you were thinking. :D - Richard Cavell (talk) 09:50, 16 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Colin Meon

Hi I see you reverted my blanking of a mistaken AFD [1] on Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Colin Meon. After some further inspectikon, I realised there was no need for this AFD, as Colin Meon is a verbatim copy of CLSM. Therefore, I've tagged "Colin Meon" for speedy deletion as vandalism, whilst the article "CLSM" seems like a genuine biography, and I see no need to send it to AFD. I could simply withdraw as nom, however this AFD was a mistake from its incipience. Why the revert? --Flewis^(talk) 08:53, 17 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Mate, it was still transcluded on today's AfD page, so it looked very strange indeed. I realise that you thought that you had screwed up somewhere, but I figured the best way was to transclude the page you had originally created.

I don't understand why you want one deleted and not the other. They both have the same content. I've removed the nomination from the page for now, just while we figure out what you're trying to do. - Richard Cavell (talk) 08:57, 17 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Ok, I'll reinstate the AFD --Flewis^(talk) 09:12, 17 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Okay. That's what you want, isn't it? For both articles to be nominated together? It would make the most sense. - Richard Cavell (talk) 09:13, 17 November 2008 (UTC

Yes - there was originally a slight mix-up, and I was a little confused with the duplicate article. Everything now should be order. Thanks for the help, --Flewis^(talk) 09:24, 17 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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Adminship

Please reconsider resigning[2] your adminship. There was no reason for you to resign as an admin. The bureaucrat in question, Nichalp, overreacted and overreached here. Your RfA vote was not particularly unreasonable and in any event it was certainly not a good reason for Wikipedia to lose a good and experienced admin. Nsk92 (talk) 14:31, 17 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

While I concur with the 'crat action on the RfA, I don't think resignation is in order. The comment Nic made was on the content of the oppose, not on the contributor. Frank | talk 14:56, 17 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I agree with Frank. The 'crats have been discussing ways to make the RfA process a bit less daunting in light of the declining numbers of promotions. I think Nichalp simply was signaling that he would not give an oppose for the reason you specified any weight; I am confident that it was not intended to signal any lack of trust, and I have seen nothing that indicates the community feels any differently. Xymmax ^{So let it be written} _{So let it be done} 15:21, 17 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I must agree with the others here that this is certainly not enough reason to lose a good admin. Please reconsider. While I also disagree with your comments on the RfA, a single mistake (even if it were 100% agreed to be one) does not mean anyone has lost the trust of the community in general. We all make mistakes and this one's not that grand in the scheme of things. As mentioned I don't think striking the comment was in order, but also consider he didn't mean it to be offensive, he was just trying to implement the community feeling that bcrats should be more involved in RfAs as they are ongoing. - Taxman ^Talk 15:58, 17 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

FWIW, I undid Nichalp's striking of your !vote and posted my reasoning in the RfA and on the BN noticeboard. I think it is poor precident to set and not appropriate. We've only stricken votes in the case of duplicates, IPs, and people obviously making point/disruption, NEVER for a good faith !vote.---Balloonman ^PoppaBalloon 16:28, 17 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I also implore you not to resign the bit. As it happens your request on meta was rejected as you were not logged in. Hopefully, now you have had some time away from WP when you next log back in you will review the conversations being held around this and reconsider. Your value to WP as an admin has never been questioned, even if you felt it was being. We really can't afford to loose quality admins like you. Pedro : Chat 16:29, 17 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Agreed... and Pedro, read your own comments above... I didn't like your talk last week about resigning either ;-)---Balloonman ^PoppaBalloon 17:03, 17 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I would like to join others above in asking you to reconsider your resignation. I personally think the rationale for your opposition was a valid one and that in any event publicly striking the vote was rather a Draconian action when Nichalp could simply have asked you to clarify. Whilst Nichalp may have felt the basis of your opposition was hard to discern, I doubt he was calling into question your ability to be an administrator and would be quite shocked to hear that you had decided to resign over the incident. As you will see from his userpage, he is currently away due to ill health and I am unsure when he will be able to respond. I am sorry you feel your standing on the project has been called into question by his action and I understand your unhappiness over the matter but it seems that it would be to the project's detriment were you to resign. WJBscribe (talk) 17:23, 17 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I am also dropping in here and requesting you reconsider your resignation. I can see why you are upset over this, but it was not a challenge of your ability to be an admin and I am concerned you might do something you will regret later. The choice is ultimately yours, but I think the project will benefit from you staying as an admin. Camaron | Chris (talk) 17:49, 17 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I echo the above. As I said in my comment on the bureacrats' noticeboard, I'm sorry if Nichalp's actions offended you. Either way, his actions have no bearing on your suitability to be an admin. There was no need to resign over this, at all. --Deskana (talk) 20:39, 17 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Nichalp is the one who ought to be resigning, not you. --Malleus Fatuorum (talk) 21:07, 17 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I wouldn't go that far... but I would be lying if I didn't get the sense of "crat's circling the wagons" in his defense... kind of like what happens when an admin is called out on WP:AN.---Balloonman ^PoppaBalloon 21:20, 17 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, everyone. Thanks for your support. I think that it's best that I resign. I will continue to edit wikipedia. I confirm to Cometstyles on Meta that I placed the request from IP 210.50.83.248 - I did not realise that I was no longer logged in when I placed the request. - Richard Cavell (talk) 21:53, 17 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

This is really too bad, and I still hope that you change your mind. There is really no reason for anyone to resign over this incident. Nsk92 (talk) 02:42, 18 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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I really hope you reconsider your resignation. RockManQ ^(talk) 03:48, 19 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Please reconsider your resignation. You are a good editor and a good admin, and your resignation is unnecessary. You have not lost any standing amongst your peers. I am more than happy to discuss this with you on your talk page or through email. Kingturtle (talk) 14:40, 25 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Hello!

it's Fine... It's my first time to request so i am just doing my best to answer the question... Can you help me? What is the incorrect in my format? (talk) 03:42, 18 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Re: Hypertryptophanemia

Thank you very much! Actually, I'm not a doctor, but just a lay person with an acute interest in medicine and biology. I wanted to become a doctor, but I have Duchenne muscular dystrophy and have been wheelchair dependant for 33 years... and on a ventilator since 1989, then just 23 yrs. old.

I'm 42 now, but fortunately the MDA is very close to curing my type of muscular dystrophy. I may yet become a doctor... of course, I'd be in my 50s right out of med school. That's not so old, though. heh. --Rcej (talk) 08:09, 19 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

One of my medical students was in his 40s. He was a really good student. I know an ambulance officer in his 50s who went to med school. Sorry to hear about the muscular dystrophy/ventilator situation. Still, you're doing really good work here. - Richard Cavell (talk) 09:46, 19 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Re: Welcome and Manual of Style

Thanks for the message. I will read the manual. Do you have a specific style issue that is problematic in my articles? If so, please let me know. I am not a native speaker, so I might make mistakes in interpunction, capital letters, etc. that I am not aware of. Ruigeroeland (talk) 11:18, 20 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks, I can see what I need to pay attention to. I will try to keep a closer eye on the style conventions..! Thanks for the help. Ruigeroeland (talk) 11:32, 20 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Re: Speedy deletion of This page is being used by J.delanoy to test something

Hi Richard.

I just thought I should tell you why I created that page. I installed a script written by User:Mr.Z-man to close AFDs, and I wanted to see how it worked. The only logical way of testing it seemed to be create a page and AFD it. Thanks for your vigilance with WP:NPP though. I was shocked that someone actually nommed it for deletion so fast. J.delanoy ^gabs _adds 20:36, 20 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

What do you mean about?

What do you mean about adding it to WP:RFA ? Well, If I fail in trying why not try again until you succeed. right? Can you help me? tell me all i need to know... Please... I beg you... —Preceding unsigned comment added by Rajalberini (talk • contribs) 03:08, 21 November 2008

Irish Pong Article Deletion

This message is in regards to my article being nominated for deletion.

Dear Mr Cavell

I would like to tell you why I wrote the article on Irish Pong, and why I would urge you to reconsider your nomination. Irish Pong, as stated in the article, has generated a huge following in the schools throughout the town that I live in, and even some surrounding areas (i.e. Westlake Village). It may seem strange and almost trivial to you, but the players of this game have achieved an almost celebrity status at my school as a result of Irish Pong becoming so popular. Irish Pong deserves the recoginition that my article would provide. Indeed, it seems as though I am not the only person who feels this way: [[3]]

"Irish pong is a completely legitimate article. I personally have played the game. This article should not be deleted under any circumstances because Irish Pong serves a beacon of hope for anyone who is in need of friends, relaxation, or just some good old fashioned fun. With this article on the web, not only do the lives of countless individuals become improved, but also wikipedia will become in my eyes and the lives of others a reasonable source for quality information. At my school, wikipedia has been censored due to its lack of cogent information. I'd like to change that. By allowing this article, you, yes YOU wikipedia, improve your status quo considerably. In conclusion, the article "Irish Pong" should not be deleted from wikipedia because it not only could create a social habitat for countless nerds looking for something to do, but it could also help wikipedia. ˜˜˜˜Dominick Gordon"

As before, I ask that you reconsider your nomination. Thank you for your time,

IRISHPONG (talk) 04:32, 21 November 2008 (UTC) Trevor McReyolds[reply]

Hi, Trevor. I've transplanted your argument to the discussion page. I'd like the discussion to take place there. I understand what you're saying, but I've decided not to withdraw my nomination. - Richard Cavell (talk) 05:28, 21 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

My Rfa

Richardcavell, thank you very much for participating in my Rfa, which was successful with 80 Support, 5 Oppose, 6 Neutral. The comments were overwhelming, and hopefully I can live up to the expectation of the community.

I would also like to thank my nominator Realist² and my co-nom Orane (talk), and special mention to Acalamari and Lenticel ^(talk) for the kindness from the start. Regards, Efe

--Efe (talk) 10:09, 21 November 2008 (UTC) [reply]

Golsen

I'm still working on it and was sure to stub it, as you did. Thanks for the heads up. ^Law_shoot! 07:19, 23 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Richard, can you help me categorize this, please? It's tax law. I think I applied the correct cat, but could use the double check. ^Law_shoot! 07:47, 23 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks brother. ^Law_shoot! 07:55, 23 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Re: <insert long title>

Done Yeah, I was going to let you know why I deleted it, but I wanted to explain to the page's creator first. Basically, the first time it was made, the creator simply copy/pasted from the project's description page on Google Code. I'm assuming whoever tagged it the second time remembered seeing it the first time and reflexed. (I'm going to look at that and possibly leave a note after this) I saw your comment just too late as clicked delete... Anyway, thanks for your hard work around here. Cheers. Thingg^⊕^⊗ 07:28, 23 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

wha? did you just reply before I posted that? Wow. you're better than I thought.... ;) Thingg^⊕^⊗ 07:29, 23 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

You've gotta be quick when you're doing new page patrol, Thingg. - Richard Cavell (talk) 07:31, 23 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Adminship

Hi Richard, I'm sorry you resigned because of the RFA in which I had indented the post. I was not directed to you personally, not was I questioning your capability as an admin. Unfortunately due to medical reasons I was away when you resigned from adminship and I could not really reach out to you before you gave it up. I have replied in detain on the BN what was going through my mind during the RFA, and my intention was to allow you to reply by citing more concrete examples, instead of a single instance, including a FPC that was as old as June 2008. I think resigning was unnecessary, but I guess you were hurt by my actions which was unconventional, but not the first time. One single instance does not make you a bad admin. We need people who can think as admins, and you have proven that you can, so I would sincerely request you to please reconsider the resignation. I have nothing personal against you, and certainly did not question your right to oppose...Just that your reasoning needed a little more substance. Do take your time to think over it. I, (or any bureaucrat) will be willing to grant you your flag back anytime you wish. If you wish not to regain the +sysop flag, could you let me know the reasons for it if possible? You're not a bad admin, please remember that. =Nichalp «Talk»= 17:36, 23 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Nichalp, at the time I did not think that there was anything wrong with my reason for opposing the candidate, and I still don't. I was very confused by what happened, particularly the backlash to my !vote. I was not expecting it. On the Bureaucrats' Noticeboard, several people have complained that my reasons for opposing were not convincing.

I personally believe that admins should be accountable and should not just have gained the trust of the community once, but ought to be able to continue to prove that they have the trust of the community. When I was an admin, I stated that I was open to recall. Of course, there is no consensus on what it means to be 'recalled'. But I think that if I am reproached by someone holding higher office, particularly in a forum such as RfA, I ought to do something about it.

At the moment, I'm going to continue to be an editor. I will learn the policies all over again, and I will go through editor review and admin coaching (as I believe it is equivalent to, and should be called, editor coaching). I want to work on some articles on my watchlist. If I am ever going to be an admin again, I think it appropriate that I demonstrate suitability for adminship again. So I will go through RfA. If I do, I will self-nominate so that I can take responsibility for everything I have done as an admin. I won't nominate for adminship for at least six months.

No hard feelings. - Richard Cavell (talk) 20:21, 23 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Ok, I respect your decision. Could I also know what is your criteria for adminship? =Nichalp «Talk»= 08:15, 24 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I look through the user's contributions. The primary consideration for me is the fact that an administrator can act, to some extent, without supervision. If an admin speedily deleted an article, it is difficult for that decision to be reversed - an ordinary user cannot see the deleted article and probably does not know how to reverse its deletion. If an admin blocks a user, it is difficult for the user to have the decision reversed. I need to know that the candidate will interpret the criteria for all admin actions strictly, and err in favour of causing least harm to users and to the encyclopedia. I believe that the strongest predictor of future behaviour as an admin is past behaviour as a user. - Richard Cavell (talk) 08:35, 24 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you

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RfA thanks

		The RfA Barnstar
		Richardcavell, I would like to thank you for your participation in my recent Request for Adminship, which passed with 112 supports, 4 opposes and 5 neutrals. A special mention goes out to Stwalkerster and Pedro for nominating me, thanks a lot for having trust in me! In response to the neutrals, I will try to double check articles that have been tagged for speedy deletion before I CSD them and will start off slowly with the drama boards of ANI and AN to ensure that I get used to them. In response to the oppose !votes on my RfA, I will check that any images I use meet the non-free content criteria and will attempt to handle any disputes or queries as well as I can. If you need my help at all, feel free to simply ask at my talk page and I'll see if I can help. Once again, thank you for your participation, and have a great day! :) The Helpful One 22:11, 25 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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Please unblock FrancisLightHouse account

Hi, FLHWeb. I'm not an administrator and cannot unblock your former login name. You should read through the articles linked to the welcome message before creating any more pages. - Richard Cavell (talk) 00:22, 27 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Please unblock block this IP Address 96.249.235.100

I'm not an admin and I cannot unblock this address. - Richard Cavell (talk) 00:22, 27 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Much too speedy deletion

The issue is that the article was deleted so fast that there was insufficient time to even protest or agree. The last article that I had that was speedy deleted is still in Wikipedia, and another editor even questioned why the speedy deletion label was applied. It seems to me that the Girard article related to a person who fought in the French Revolution for some time and was eventually promoted to general. Is there some bored editor out there who has nothing better to do than apply the speedy deletion label?

Hi. I can't say why your article was speedily deleted, because I cannot access the text. I accept that speedy deletion bypasses any chance that you have to state your case, which is one reason why I think it ought to be used only in clear-cut cases. If you contact Thingg, who deleted your first article, he may be able to explain it. You can have his decision reviewed at WP:DRV if you like, but I'd suggest that you don't go down that path without first of all speaking to Thingg about why he deleted it. - Richard Cavell (talk) 03:40, 27 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Office of the President Elect

I've made some improvements to steer it towards NPOV, so I don't know if the article will pass AfD anymore. I do feel that deletion would only lead to more attacks such as the original version, which I agree was an attack. Making the article NPOV, and then using redirects however should stop it for such a contentious issue. ηoian ‡orever ηew ‡rontiers 05:19, 27 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Yes. Thanks for your work. I think it stills need more work, however. I'm going to let it simmer at AfD for a while before weighing in on it again. I think that if a couple of good editors get together, this article could be greatly improved. - Richard Cavell (talk) 05:21, 27 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

That's it for me though today, I keep getting these bugs when I try to edit, I think because I moved the page, so it refers to the unmoved version sometimes....ηoian ‡orever ηew ‡rontiers 06:29, 27 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Mate, I'm getting old pages from the cache as well. I'm not on the secure server. It's really annoying because shift-reload isn't helping. - Richard Cavell (talk) 06:32, 27 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Then either WikiMedia has some errors to fix in the software, or they really need the money for new servers. I usually just use F5 though for reloading. How do you think the "current" version is? Should the "controversy" section be gutted? I really am on the fence with the section, as I don't see it as too notable.ηoian ‡orever ηew ‡rontiers 06:50, 27 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I'm going to stay out of the content dispute. You see, I think that this sort of article should be written by those who have an interest in this type of article. I don't generally edit US political/government articles. - Richard Cavell (talk) 08:08, 27 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Happy Holidays and Thank You!

Hello Richard I would just like to wish you a happy holidays and thank you for wikifying Cawgay, Afghanistan. --MidnightFlavor (talk) 11:42, 28 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Deleted article

hello richard i thought my article was fine could you please email me a copy of it please (Gangster1001 (talk) 16:01, 28 November 2008 (UTC))[reply]

Re: D. B. Drumm

You behavior is revolting. I can explain for hours why your edits are detrimental to wikipedia--but I would be wasting my time. I am aware of all of the policies. Tissuebox (talk) 21:34, 28 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Jclemens RfA

Jclemens' RfA Thankspam

		JClemens' RfA Thanks
		Thank you for participating in my Request for Adminship, which passed with 77 supporting and 2 opposing. Regardless of your position, I thank you for the time you took to examine my record and formulate your response. Jclemens (talk) 02:26, 29 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you!

For the help on editing my page.
I'm just starting out so your help is appreciated! —Preceding unsigned comment added by Mr macdooger (talk • contribs) 11:08, 29 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

WPMED banner update

If you are interested in medicine-related themes, you may want to check out the Medicine Portal.
If you are interested in contributing more to medical related articles you may want to join WikiProject Medicine (signup here).

If you're interested in medicine-related articles, then WT:MED is an interesting page to keep on your watchlist. WhatamIdoing (talk) 18:14, 29 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks

Thank you for the barnstar the other day, much appreciated. Cheers, Ian Rose (talk) 22:34, 29 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

+rollback, +acc creator

Hi Richard. I saw your name at AfD as a nonadmin close, so I see you decided to follow through on giving up the bit. I have, rather presumptiously added back the rollback and account creator bits. I hope you don't mind my doing so, I certainly don't mean to cause you any offense. Should you not wish this, I'll quickly undo this. Best to you. Xymmax ^{So let it be written} _{So let it be done} 06:40, 30 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, Xymmax. I'm not offended. I will not apply for adminship again for quite a while, and I don't want the +sysop bit. I don't actually use either of the bits that you've given me - I usually perform rollback manually, and if I wanted to automate it I could use Twinkle (I've only just moved to using Twinkle after editing manually for about 8000 edits!) But I take your actions as being at least partly symbolic, and I thank you for the gesture. - Richard Cavell (talk) 06:53, 30 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the feedback

I apprecieate you feedback on my Rudolf Koppitz article. I'm about 99% done with it now so feel free to stop by and make any needed suggestions to help improve it.

Best wishes,

--A. Poinçot (talk) 01:51, 1 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Cavell

you know your medical stuff man thank you --Furahong (talk) 07:19, 1 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Turn out the lights - the beer has arrived

Have an unyielding beer on me.

Let the amber nectar flow all day and night. Let it run down the mountains and through the caverns and across the rich lawns to swamp the streets. Let it rain beer. Let the heavens open and shine forth beer. Let it all be beer. Wonderful beer. And let it be as deep as the heart of a lion.

This is an acknowledgment of your participation in the RfA of: SilkTork *^YES!. 19:12, 1 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for participating in my RfA

I just wanted to take a moment to say "thank you" for taking the time and effort to participate in my recent RfA. As you may know, the discussion closed 66/0/1 and I'm now a holder of the mop. I will keep working to improve the encyclopedia and appreciate the trust which you have placed in me. - Dravecky (talk) 23:18, 1 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Voice chasing

How do you think the article could be expanded beyond the definition? - Mgm|^(talk) 09:10, 2 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Well, I think we ought to use reliable sources, of course. However, I can say that there is documentation of this. The recent death of Don LaFontaine showed that many seek out his voice (look his name up on youtube). It may have had more relevance in the golden age of animation (1940s/50s). - Richard Cavell (talk) 09:17, 2 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

The entourage

Whoops, missed that one utterly, thanks --RedKiteUK (talk) 22:01, 3 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I was going to put something on your talk page, but changing one speedy delete template to another seems hardly worth a talk page addition. No problem. I have to tag so many of the things-made-up-in-school-one-day that I'm seriously considering proposing a G13 about it. - Richard Cavell (talk) 22:08, 3 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you

Thank you for telling me of the mistake i made, i didn't mean to disrespect, i really appericate the modification you made as well, i'll try to be more careful next time, i'm grateful for your understanding Mcbowser (talk) 00:26, 6 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

removed - Norman McGuire

I removed the content because this is just to much of a pain. Norman McGuire is a great up and coming actor who has many notable credits this year. I prefer not to use this site any longer for any of our performers deserving notability. If people like you would just take the time to "ask" for links to actual film footage we could avoid all this hoopla.

Ginger —Preceding unsigned comment added by Mcguiresys (talk • contribs) 07:24, 6 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

you are an idiot.

I will put anyone I want up on this site. Who the fuck are you to tell me what I can and cant put up here? As far as that picture... you are a dumb ass. It's his head shot for public use!

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+== you are an idiot. ==
+I will put anyone I want up on this site. Who the fuck are you to tell me what I can and cant put up here? As far as that picture... you are a dumb ass. It's his head shot for public use!