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::As it is '''not''' a requested move, but a merge request, you cannot use [[WP:RM]] for such a request, it is an abuse of process. It's as simple as that. As for what to do with it, I made the comment that it should be listed at [[WP:PM]] when I posted a procedural close on the WP:RM page itself. [[Special:Contributions/76.66.192.64|76.66.192.64]] ([[User talk:76.66.192.64|talk]]) 06:08, 26 July 2009 (UTC)
::As it is '''not''' a requested move, but a merge request, you cannot use [[WP:RM]] for such a request, it is an abuse of process. It's as simple as that. As for what to do with it, I made the comment that it should be listed at [[WP:PM]] when I posted a procedural close on the WP:RM page itself. [[Special:Contributions/76.66.192.64|76.66.192.64]] ([[User talk:76.66.192.64|talk]]) 06:08, 26 July 2009 (UTC)
:::I think that you should remember that not all editors are as experienced in all areas of Wikipedia as you. I have almost no experience with merges and moves, so saying "It's an abuse of the process. It's as simple as that" makes it seem like you're implying two things: that I'm stupid, and also that I listed it there in [[WP:assume good faith|bad faith]]. All I was saying was that your comment came across as terse, and I would have appreciated an explanation as to why it's a merge and not a move. I think you'll notice from the talk pages that I haven't disputed your judgement that it's a merger. I only wanted to know why, so that I know what to do if I come across a similar situation in the future. As of yet, you have not done that. Showing this arrogant attitude is totally uncalled for and inappropriate, and I find it to be '''extremely''' offensive.--Witan 06:33, 26 July 2009 (UTC)
:::I think that you should remember that not all editors are as experienced in all areas of Wikipedia as you. I have almost no experience with merges and moves, so saying "It's an abuse of the process. It's as simple as that" makes it seem like you're implying two things: that I'm stupid, and also that I listed it there in [[WP:assume good faith|bad faith]]. All I was saying was that your comment came across as terse, and I would have appreciated an explanation as to why it's a merge and not a move. I think you'll notice from the talk pages that I haven't disputed your judgement that it's a merger. I only wanted to know why, so that I know what to do if I come across a similar situation in the future. As of yet, you have not done that. Showing this arrogant attitude is totally uncalled for and inappropriate, and I find it to be '''extremely''' offensive.--Witan 06:33, 26 July 2009 (UTC)

::::Well, I saw your welcome message. It's from 2005. I assumed you were an experienced editor. I apologize for misinterpreting your experience level. It did not occur to me that ''abuse of process'' was a value judgment on your actions, since to me "abuse" is the ''misuse'' of a process. Misuse need not be intentional. So perhaps I should have used the word "misuse" instead of "abuse". See [http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/abuse dictionary.com] where "abuse" defintion (1) is what I was using. I was not implying that you were intentionally using bad faith. [[Special:Contributions/76.66.192.64|76.66.192.64]] ([[User talk:76.66.192.64|talk]]) 07:02, 26 July 2009 (UTC)

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DYK

Updated DYK query On 23 January, 2007, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Opus Majus, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the "Did you know?" talk page.

--Yomanganitalk 18:09, 23 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Historical Eastern Germany

Perhaps you'd be interested in this:Talk:Historical_Eastern_Germany#Requested_move. -- Hrödberäht (gespräch) 05:07, 6 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Barnstar

Well thanks very much - & well done you for getting the article started! Cheers Johnbod 02:26, 12 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

You have new questions at Editor review

The Transhumanist   04:35, 13 March 2007 (UTC) [reply]

Sandbox help

Is there any way to link the edit page of my Sandbox (under "My Random Stuff") with an internal Wiki-link, instead of the external one I have now? I specifically want it linked so that it goes right to the "Edit This Page" screen.--Witan 17:30, 14 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Nope, because that page is not like an article page. Xiner (talk, email) 17:59, 14 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

DYK

Updated DYK query On 15 March, 2007, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article 1300-1400 in fashion, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the "Did you know?" talk page.

--howcheng {chat} 06:15, 15 March 2007 (UTC) [reply]

User page

Thanks for the revert. CambridgeBayWeather (Talk) 16:01, 16 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Moving Czech film 1919-1939 to List of Czechoslovakian films. Sorry if the summary didn't register it didn't work first time when I stated. Films are not alienated unnecessarily now Thanks ♦ Sir Blofeld ♦ "I've been expecting you" 16:18, 16 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

For obvious reasons!!! You do a great job with vandals by the way. I bow down to you!! I am currently trying to fill all the lists of films and add all the details with WikiProject Film but so many of the lists need cleaning up and organizing I am going through first. If you see consistent edits on the List of films you'll know its me!! ♦ Sir Blofeld ♦ "I've been expecting you" 16:25, 16 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Need help on Categories

What would be good Categories for my article Letter to Posterity that was written by Petrarch in 1372? --Doug talk 15:58, 18 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I put Medieval Latin Literature. You can browse through other categories here to look for other possibilities--Witan 18:28, 18 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks, I appreciate that. --Doug talk 18:30, 18 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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Early medieval

Great minds are thinking alike again. User:Johnbod started Early medieval European dress about the same time you were starting Anglo-Saxon dress. I think we can make both of them work with some creative linking, especially if Anglo-Saxon gets very detailed, but do you think a merge makes more sense? - PKM 02:55, 9 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Indeed! An article about earlier medieval dress was overdue. Anyways, I think right now we should see where both articles end up. It may warrant a merger eventually, but I think for a while we should see how each article develops. One reason I think this is because Europe during this period was divided between the continent in the south (the Frankish Empire, Normandy, etc.) and the north, (with England, Scandinavia, etc.), which remained until about 1066 (Stamford Bridge, Hastings, and all that stuff), after which northern Europe got more into sync with the rest of Europe. What we may want to do is have the Early Medieval and Anglo-Saxon articles specialize in Continental dress and Northern dress respectively. I think that there are sufficient differences to warrant separate articles if information can be found for both. But anyways, for the time being I think we should see how they both end up.--Witan 05:43, 9 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Fair enough. I will add things to both where appropriate. - PKM 02:10, 10 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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Rule of Two

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Nakagusuku

Witan, thank you very much for your support on my move request at Talk:Naka_Castle. I think you overlooked signing your comment, however. Can you go back and sign it, please? It'll look cleaner and nicer that way than me or someone else adding an Unsigned template. Cheers. LordAmeth (talk) 17:50, 25 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

RE: Your comment on my proposed move

I just wanted to say that I spent a lot of time trying to decide whether the move/merge of air superiority and air supremacy into a single, new article would best be classified as a move or a merger. I'm sure you would agree that it shows characteristics of both. I decided to list it in the "requested moves" because I felt that it fit best there. I would appreciate it if, in the future, you would offer suggestions of what I should do differently and why, rather than simply stating a terse opposition and recommending the closure of the discussion of my suggested move.

Thank you, --Witan 21:09, 25 July 2009 (UTC)

As it is not a requested move, but a merge request, you cannot use WP:RM for such a request, it is an abuse of process. It's as simple as that. As for what to do with it, I made the comment that it should be listed at WP:PM when I posted a procedural close on the WP:RM page itself. 76.66.192.64 (talk) 06:08, 26 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]
I think that you should remember that not all editors are as experienced in all areas of Wikipedia as you. I have almost no experience with merges and moves, so saying "It's an abuse of the process. It's as simple as that" makes it seem like you're implying two things: that I'm stupid, and also that I listed it there in bad faith. All I was saying was that your comment came across as terse, and I would have appreciated an explanation as to why it's a merge and not a move. I think you'll notice from the talk pages that I haven't disputed your judgement that it's a merger. I only wanted to know why, so that I know what to do if I come across a similar situation in the future. As of yet, you have not done that. Showing this arrogant attitude is totally uncalled for and inappropriate, and I find it to be extremely offensive.--Witan 06:33, 26 July 2009 (UTC)
Well, I saw your welcome message. It's from 2005. I assumed you were an experienced editor. I apologize for misinterpreting your experience level. It did not occur to me that abuse of process was a value judgment on your actions, since to me "abuse" is the misuse of a process. Misuse need not be intentional. So perhaps I should have used the word "misuse" instead of "abuse". See dictionary.com where "abuse" defintion (1) is what I was using. I was not implying that you were intentionally using bad faith. 76.66.192.64 (talk) 07:02, 26 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]