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====Israel-Palestine talks====
Direct talks between Israeli PM Netanyahu and Palestinian leader Abbas started at the US State Department. First time in two years they've talked to eachother. [[User:DC|<font style="color: #002664">'''''~DC'''''</font>]] <sub>[[User talk:DC|<font color="#BB133E" face="Tahoma"><b>Let's Vent</b></font>]]</sub> 16:22, 2 September 2010 (UTC)
:Same shit, different day, get back to me when some kind of peace agreement actually happens. --[[User:Golbez|Golbez]] ([[User talk:Golbez|talk]]) 16:31, 2 September 2010 (UTC)
:'''Oppose''' - it's a start, but only a start. [[User talk:Fox|<font style="color:#991616;">&nbsp;'''''f&nbsp;o&nbsp;x'''''&nbsp;</font>]] 23:09, 2 September 2010 (UTC)
:'''Oppose'''. They're just talks. If something significant comes of them, then maybe, but the talks themselves are not ITN-worthy. [[User:HJ Mitchell|<font color="Teal" face="Tahoma">'''HJ&nbsp;Mitchell'''</font>]] &#124; [[User talk:HJ Mitchell|<font color="Navy" face= "Times New Roman">Penny for your thoughts? </font>]] 02:02, 3 September 2010 (UTC)

====[[Typhoon Kompasu (2010)|Typhoon Kompasu]]====
It's not everyday that a capital city is hit by a cyclone. Early reports had three people dead. &ndash;'''[[User:Howard the Duck|<font color="#FFA500">HTD</font>]]''' ([[Wikipedia talk:In the news/Archive 31#World Cup updates|<font color="#FFA500">ITN: Where no updates but is stickied happens.</font>]]) 09:12, 2 September 2010 (UTC)
:No, but on the other hand, the article doesn't even say which capital city was hit. --[[User:Golbez|Golbez]] ([[User talk:Golbez|talk]]) 12:37, 2 September 2010 (UTC)
::'''Comment'''. I've updated the article to include the needed information, as the storm hit near [[Seoul]]. The storm's track is comparable to that of [[2000 Pacific typhoon season#Typhoon Prapiroon (Lusing)|Prapiroon]] in 2000, killing 46 and leaving $6 billion in damage, but essentially no other typhoons in the past 65 years have come this close to Seoul according to Wikipedia's storm tracks. I'd wait for more updated information, but another depression is forming that is forecast to take the exact same track. ~<font color="blue">[[User:AstroHurricane001/A|A]][[User:AstroHurricane001|H]][[User:AstroHurricane001/D|1]]</font><sup>([[User:AstroHurricane001/T|T]][[Special:Contributions/AstroHurricane001|C]][[User:AstroHurricane001/U|U]])</sup> 15:14, 2 September 2010 (UTC)
:::'''Support''' if a capital city has been hit by a cyclone. --<font face="serif">[[User: Candlewicke|<span style="color:red">can</span>]][[User:Candlewicke/List of signatories|<span style="color:black">dle</span>]][[WP:ITN/C|•]][[User talk:Candlewicke|<span style="color:green">wicke</span>]]</font> 17:22, 2 September 2010 (UTC)
::::'''Support''' if Seoul has been hit by a cyclone. -- [[User:Eraserhead1|Eraserhead1]] &lt;[[User_talk:Eraserhead1|talk]]&gt; 18:36, 2 September 2010 (UTC)
: The update is very minor at the moment. One sentence about Seoul. Probably, if this typhoon is that notable, it should have a separate article, as do the cyclones. --'''[[User:Tone|Tone]]''' 18:48, 2 September 2010 (UTC)
:'''Support''' as long as it's updated. <small>Please discount that if it doesn't get updated</small>. [[User:1234r00t|<span style='color:#383132'><i><u><b>Mr. R00t</b></u></i></span>]] [[User Talk:1234r00t| <span style="color:#46520C"><sup><u><i>Talk</i></u></sup></span>]] 01:43, 3 September 2010 (UTC)
::There is an article and has been for a couple of days at Typhoon Kompasu (2010). Im working to update it but i keep getting called away to deal with other things.[[User:Jason Rees|Jason Rees]] ([[User talk:Jason Rees|talk]]) 14:23, 3 September 2010 (UTC)
:::[[Typhoon Kompasu (2010)]] looks pretty reasonable and there's more material on Seoul. Anyone care to give me a good blurb? [[User:HJ Mitchell|<font color="Teal" face="Tahoma">'''HJ&nbsp;Mitchell'''</font>]] &#124; [[User talk:HJ Mitchell|<font color="Navy" face= "Times New Roman">Penny for your thoughts? </font>]] 15:14, 3 September 2010 (UTC)
::::Just a general blurb i think. Typhoon Kompasu (Glenda) makes landfall near Seoul, South Korea, killing at least five people.[[User:Jason Rees|Jason Rees]] ([[User talk:Jason Rees|talk]]) 17:38, 3 September 2010 (UTC)
*'''Posted''' -- '''[[User:Tariqabjotu|<font color="black">tariq</font><font color="gray">abjotu</font>]]''' 19:40, 3 September 2010 (UTC)
*'''Come on!''' two typhoons/tornadoes one after the other? Can the two be merged instead? I see no reason not to put a merged, '''trimmed down''' version of the two blurbs instead. [[User:Nergaal|Nergaal]] ([[User talk:Nergaal|talk]]) 21:37, 3 September 2010 (UTC)
:::proposed blurb: ''Typhoon Kompasu (pictured) makes landfall in South Korea, becoming the strongest typhoon to affect Seoul in fifteen years, while 30,000 people in North Carolina, United States, are evacuated ahead of Hurricane Earl.'' [[User:Nergaal|Nergaal]] ([[User talk:Nergaal|talk]]) 21:40, 3 September 2010 (UTC)
::::Why would we do that? They are two completely unrelated storms thousands of miles from each other. [[User:HJ Mitchell|<font color="Teal" face="Tahoma">'''HJ&nbsp;Mitchell'''</font>]] &#124; [[User talk:HJ Mitchell|<font color="Navy" face= "Times New Roman">Penny for your thoughts? </font>]] 21:46, 3 September 2010 (UTC)
:::::Because when there were natural disasters (i.e. landslide and flooding) in two different countries, they were posted in the same blurb. Why take 2 of the 5/6 slots in the ITN for two identical phenomena? [[User:Nergaal|Nergaal]] ([[User talk:Nergaal|talk]]) 22:14, 3 September 2010 (UTC)
:::::This is not flooding in bordering countries, so the merger makes no sense, but the evacuation of the NC islands is a false alarm two days old. Take Earl down.[[User:Medeis|μηδείς]] ([[User talk:Medeis|talk]]) 05:41, 4 September 2010 (UTC)

====Another Oil Rig explodes (this is not BPs)====
It is though in the Gulf Coast again. This is owned by [[Mariner Energy]]. This just got reported mins ago. More to come. They still don't know if it's leaking though as this just happened [http://www.cbc.ca/world/story/2010/09/02/gulf-of-mexico-explosion.html]--[[User:Everyone Dies In the End|Everyone Dies In the End]] ([[User talk:Everyone Dies In the End|talk]]) 16:12, 2 September 2010 (UTC)
:'''Oppose''' since one person is injured and all 13 are safe. No damage reported. --<font face="serif">[[User: Candlewicke|<span style="color:red">can</span>]][[User:Candlewicke/List of signatories|<span style="color:black">dle</span>]][[WP:ITN/C|•]][[User talk:Candlewicke|<span style="color:green">wicke</span>]]</font> 17:20, 2 September 2010 (UTC)
:'''Support''' - Supposedly it's causing a spill that's at least a mile wide.--[[User:WaltCip|WaltCip]] ([[User talk:WaltCip|talk]]) 19:38, 2 September 2010 (UTC)
:'''Neutral''' lets wait and see what happens. -- [[User:Eraserhead1|Eraserhead1]] &lt;[[User_talk:Eraserhead1|talk]]&gt; 19:40, 2 September 2010 (UTC)
:'''Oppose''' unless something new develops. There are - on average - approximately 85 oil rig fires/explosions in the Gulf of Mexico every year. --[[User:Smashville|'''Smashville''']][[User Talk:Smashville|<sup style="color:#03F">talk</sup>]] 19:42, 2 September 2010 (UTC)
:'''Neutral''' let's wait. And that spill, while a mile long, is only about 100 feet wide. [[User:DC|<font style="color: #002664">'''''~DC'''''</font>]] <sub>[[User talk:DC|<font color="#BB133E" face="Tahoma"><b>Let's Vent</b></font>]]</sub> 19:44, 2 September 2010 (UTC)
:'''Oppose'''. Premature nomination; this is only in the headlines by virtue of the ''Deepwater Horizon'' spill. I'll reconsider if there's some new development, but right now, this isn't even worthy of an article, never mind an ITN slot. [[User:HJ Mitchell|<font color="Teal" face="Tahoma">'''HJ&nbsp;Mitchell'''</font>]] &#124; [[User talk:HJ Mitchell|<font color="Navy" face= "Times New Roman">Penny for your thoughts? </font>]] 19:57, 2 September 2010 (UTC)
:'''Neutral''' per DC. --'''[[User:Extra999|<font color="red">Extra</font>]] [[User:Extra999/Guestbook|<font color="black">999</font>]]''' ([[User talk:Extra999|Contact <sup>me</sup>]] + [[Special:Contributions/Extra999|<sub>contribs</sub>]]) 11:46, 4 September 2010 (UTC)
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September 2

Armed conflicts and incidents

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International relations

Law and crime

Politics and elections

Sport

Israel-Palestine talks

Direct talks between Israeli PM Netanyahu and Palestinian leader Abbas started at the US State Department. First time in two years they've talked to eachother. ~DC Let's Vent 16:22, 2 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Same shit, different day, get back to me when some kind of peace agreement actually happens. --Golbez (talk) 16:31, 2 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose - it's a start, but only a start.  f o x  23:09, 2 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose. They're just talks. If something significant comes of them, then maybe, but the talks themselves are not ITN-worthy. HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 02:02, 3 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

It's not everyday that a capital city is hit by a cyclone. Early reports had three people dead. –HTD (ITN: Where no updates but is stickied happens.) 09:12, 2 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

No, but on the other hand, the article doesn't even say which capital city was hit. --Golbez (talk) 12:37, 2 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Comment. I've updated the article to include the needed information, as the storm hit near Seoul. The storm's track is comparable to that of Prapiroon in 2000, killing 46 and leaving $6 billion in damage, but essentially no other typhoons in the past 65 years have come this close to Seoul according to Wikipedia's storm tracks. I'd wait for more updated information, but another depression is forming that is forecast to take the exact same track. ~AH1(TCU) 15:14, 2 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Support if a capital city has been hit by a cyclone. --candlewicke 17:22, 2 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Support if Seoul has been hit by a cyclone. -- Eraserhead1 <talk> 18:36, 2 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
The update is very minor at the moment. One sentence about Seoul. Probably, if this typhoon is that notable, it should have a separate article, as do the cyclones. --Tone 18:48, 2 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Support as long as it's updated. Please discount that if it doesn't get updated. Mr. R00t Talk 01:43, 3 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
There is an article and has been for a couple of days at Typhoon Kompasu (2010). Im working to update it but i keep getting called away to deal with other things.Jason Rees (talk) 14:23, 3 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Typhoon Kompasu (2010) looks pretty reasonable and there's more material on Seoul. Anyone care to give me a good blurb? HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 15:14, 3 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Just a general blurb i think. Typhoon Kompasu (Glenda) makes landfall near Seoul, South Korea, killing at least five people.Jason Rees (talk) 17:38, 3 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
proposed blurb: Typhoon Kompasu (pictured) makes landfall in South Korea, becoming the strongest typhoon to affect Seoul in fifteen years, while 30,000 people in North Carolina, United States, are evacuated ahead of Hurricane Earl. Nergaal (talk) 21:40, 3 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Why would we do that? They are two completely unrelated storms thousands of miles from each other. HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 21:46, 3 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Because when there were natural disasters (i.e. landslide and flooding) in two different countries, they were posted in the same blurb. Why take 2 of the 5/6 slots in the ITN for two identical phenomena? Nergaal (talk) 22:14, 3 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
This is not flooding in bordering countries, so the merger makes no sense, but the evacuation of the NC islands is a false alarm two days old. Take Earl down.μηδείς (talk) 05:41, 4 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Another Oil Rig explodes (this is not BPs)

It is though in the Gulf Coast again. This is owned by Mariner Energy. This just got reported mins ago. More to come. They still don't know if it's leaking though as this just happened [1]--Everyone Dies In the End (talk) 16:12, 2 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose since one person is injured and all 13 are safe. No damage reported. --candlewicke 17:20, 2 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Support - Supposedly it's causing a spill that's at least a mile wide.--WaltCip (talk) 19:38, 2 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Neutral lets wait and see what happens. -- Eraserhead1 <talk> 19:40, 2 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose unless something new develops. There are - on average - approximately 85 oil rig fires/explosions in the Gulf of Mexico every year. --Smashvilletalk 19:42, 2 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Neutral let's wait. And that spill, while a mile long, is only about 100 feet wide. ~DC Let's Vent 19:44, 2 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose. Premature nomination; this is only in the headlines by virtue of the Deepwater Horizon spill. I'll reconsider if there's some new development, but right now, this isn't even worthy of an article, never mind an ITN slot. HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 19:57, 2 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Neutral per DC. --Extra 999 (Contact me + contribs) 11:46, 4 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

September 1

Armed conflicts and attacks

Arts and culture

Business and economics

Disasters

Hostage situation in Discovery Channel building

A man with a handgun and an explosive device has entered the Discovery Channel headquarters building in Maryland and has taken at least one person hostage. Fox CNN - JuneGloom07 Talk? 19:31, 1 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

  • Tentative support - It's certainly national news at the moment, and globally relevant considering how widespread the Discovery brand is. You'd be hard-pressed to find a en.wiki reader who doesn't know what the Discovery Channel is. How significant it is in the long run will depend on the outcome. Kafziel Complaint Department 19:43, 1 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
this is breaking news right now. wait till we know more. -- Ashish-g55 20:02, 1 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Doesn't need to be significant, only of "int'l interest." May I show you: [2] [3] [4] [5] [6] [7] [8] [9] [10] [11] ~DC Let's Vent 20:09, 1 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I beg to differ - significance is critical lest we find ourselves posting sensationalism.--Mkativerata (talk) 20:12, 1 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Slippery-slope? ~DC Let's Vent 20:16, 1 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I would agree that we should wait to see how this plays out. If (as I hope) the perp gives up, this isn't much of a story, but if there is major damage or death it would merit speedy ITN inclusion, in my view. Jusdafax 20:19, 1 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Article here - 2010 Discovery Communications headquarters hostage crisis. Gunman may have more than one hostage. - JuneGloom07 Talk? 20:20, 1 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
He reportedly is armed with a Dead man's switch, which doesn't seem like a good sign. ~DC Let's Vent 20:41, 1 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose non-significant hostage situation in an office block outside Washington, DC; no obvious international interest. Physchim62 (talk) 20:23, 1 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
See the links above. ~DC Let's Vent 20:41, 1 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose Run of the mill incident. --Cameron Scott (talk) 20:24, 1 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose - Any deaths? First we should post 2010 Bratislava shootings, (8 deaths) - Eugen Simion 14 (talk) 20:25, 1 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Comment and I believe that is now ready. -- Eraserhead1 <talk> 20:29, 1 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
That's not a valid oppose. We don't post or not post things based on another article being more deserving, nor on hypothetical comparisons of significance. I'm looking at Bratislava now. HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 20:38, 1 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose until more is known. Considering it's a network known for reality programming and not CBS, NBC, ABC or some other network with a news outlet, this could easily be a simple domestic dispute gone awry. --Smashvilletalk 20:51, 1 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose, given the ending. Dramatic for a few hours, but seems to have had a minimally important/significant outcome. C628 (talk) 21:39, 1 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment - Call me crazy, but it seems like the main criterion for inclusion in "In the News" should be whether or not it is in the news. And this is in the news, around the world: It's on Euronews, BBC, Times India, you name it, because everyone knows what Discovery is. Maybe we should change the title of this section to "Really important events of long-lasting significance in which at least several people died violently" to reflect the general consensus of ITN/C on stories like this. Kafziel Complaint Department 21:58, 1 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Can't speak for everyone, but my general criteria is that the event has significant consequences, rather like you'd expect for any WP article. That way it's not so much your average news ticker, but is something that can highlight events with significant consequences, which is what the encyclopedia is best at, rather than being a flood of sensationalism, which is what a lot of the news is nowadays. C628 (talk) 22:04, 1 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
So you support my suggestion for a title change? Kafziel Complaint Department 22:07, 1 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
It's not too far off the mark. C628 (talk) 22:20, 1 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
@Kafziel if you want to just read everything thats in the news then why dont you go read a news paper? Wikipeida's ITN section is not a news ticker, this is a global encyclopedia and items are added according to that. Currently one item on ITN caused any deaths so i dont really know what you are complaining about. wth do u want us to do... add every news event that happens in entire world? -- Ashish-g55 23:49, 1 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks so much for taking the time to educate a noob like me. Kafziel Complaint Department 00:30, 2 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
no problem. -- Ashish-g55 00:59, 2 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I'm going to oppose here unless something more emerges. I would have opposed had the ending been different unless there was a high death toll or massive damage or notable people/buildings affected. This is just tabloid fodder, really. It will be out of the headlines in a day or two at most. It's not ITN's job to report everything in the papers, its purpose is to highlight encyclopaedic topics related to a current event. HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 00:06, 2 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
btw oppose. a moron walks into a building with a gun and gets shot. except the fact that building is owned by discovery channel there is nothing in this story. i dont even think it deserves an article. -- Ashish-g55 01:20, 2 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Comment. This incident seems to be about a Discovery Channel viewer advocating a form of eugenics as a solution to environmental issues and using violence to promote it. This is a very unusual story, but unfortunately similar incidents have occurred before related to this issue that didn't get as much media attention. ~AH1(TCU) 15:23, 2 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose per above , not a very big news. --Extra 999 (Contact me + contribs) 12:04, 4 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Lahore blasts

Is this enough for Pakistan to be post-worthy? I suppose the Sunni/Shia thing makes it more notable so Weak support. -- Eraserhead1 <talk> 21:57, 1 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Comment triple suicide bombings are fortunately rare even in Pakistan. this is the first major attack since the floods and the influx of foreign aid workers.--Wikireader41 (talk) 22:16, 1 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
The death toll isn't massive, but 200 injuries would seem unusually high, even for the relative frequency of these events. The article will need some expansion before it can be considered. HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 23:55, 1 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Support since all of the above seems to make sense. --candlewicke 03:11, 2 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Suggest: Three bombings kill at least 30 people and injure more than 200 others in Lahore. --candlewicke 03:15, 2 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Support Yet another attack in the country's cultural capital; blasts in Lahore are not usual or frequent compared to the volatile northwest. Mar4d (talk) 08:08, 2 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

The discovery of Balaur, a new genus of dinosaurs closely related to velociraptor, is announced

Nergaal (talk) 01:27, 1 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Weak support. This wouldn't be a good enough dinosaur story for me in a normal period, but we're still weak on news. Article seems OK in the circumstances, as it has the primary reference. Here's BBC coverage of the find. Physchim62 (talk) 02:09, 1 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
weak support likewise...but the 2010 Bratislava shooting are also ready to go.(Lihaas (talk) 02:42, 1 September 2010 (UTC));[reply]
I have expanded the article a bit. Nergaal (talk) 03:22, 1 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I'm also working on an illustration of the animal that should be done in a few hours. Should spruce up the article considerably. -Ferahgo the Assassin (talk) 03:45, 1 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Very nice work with the article. Support, willing to post soon, after some more feedback. --Tone 07:32, 1 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Support - although the journal article seems to be a couple of months old, it does seem this is only getting attention now --Daviessimo (talk) 07:43, 1 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
The journal article [12] was actually published online yesterday, and hasn't even made it to physical print yet. -Ferahgo the Assassin (talk) 07:55, 1 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Ok, ready to post. Shall I go with "The discovery of Balaur, a new genus of dinosaurs closely related to velociraptor, is announced" or should I add more? --Tone 08:54, 1 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Support I'd say it's good as you have it. Short and to the point. Jusdafax 09:10, 1 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Support sounds good. -- Eraserhead1 <talk> 20:05, 1 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Posted by Tone.--Chaser (talk) 13:30, 3 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]