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User adding nationalistic statements against npov

Please watch User:DJ Sturm. His contributions are nothing but nationalistic and against npov. Thank you.-- ♫Greatorangepumpkin♫ T 15:51, 9 December 2010 (UTC)

Greetings! Have luck at watching me. DJ Sturm (talk) 16:02, 9 December 2010 (UTC)

• I don't see a problem needing admin intervention here, it's a straightforward dispute about sourcing, which should be on the article's Talk page to enable other editors to contribute. There's always WP:RSN for external input as to reliability of sources. Please also bear in mind WP:BURDEN- he who seeks to use a source must justify it. Rodhullandemu 22:01, 9 December 2010 (UTC)

File deletion

Hello Rod:

You marked my file "speedy deletion" I think. The file is:

Rvancoppacmotor12910.tif

I am the Manager of the company for this product and have legal rights to this picture in full as a representative of the company.

That said I am new at this and I fear that I am not doing something correct. I am so sorry for the problem I have caused and hope that you could possibly guide and help me a little with the issue

Thank you in advance.

Ruedi Van Coppenolle

Demag Cranes & Components Corp. Cleveland Ohio, 44129 <!- redacted> — Preceding unsigned comment added by Rvancopp (talk • contribs) 13:37, 10 December 2010 (UTC)

You would have to explicitly release a copyright-free version of this image; instructions on how to contact us are here. If you make it clear that the image version has been deleted, you do not need to send us a new copy, and the file will be undeleted on receipt of your email. Cheers. Rodhullandemu 16:22, 10 December 2010 (UTC)

black and white fine foods

I dont understand why you deleted black and white fine foods — Preceding unsigned comment added by James403 (talk • contribs) 00:33, 11 December 2010 (UTC)

Are my reasons somehow unclear? Please feel free to point out how. Rodhullandemu 00:36, 11 December 2010 (UTC)

Jean-Pierre Ponssard

You surprise me. I thought the article asserted importance very clearly. Of course, it didn't do so credibly (there was no sourcing), and arguably the importance was inadequate for Wikipedia, which of course has other priorities. Still, the claimed importance was sufficient for DGG to remove a PROD warning rather earlier. -- Hoary (talk) 01:11, 11 December 2010 (UTC)

I was unaware of the removed PROD, and saw the article as it was now. Since earlier this year (June?), BLPs require at least a modicum of sourced notability, since an assertion is no longer enough. Accordingly, notability now requires credible sourcing. However, since the original article fell under the old rules, and should not have been CSD'd under the new provisions, I will restore it. Others may still PROD or AfD it but it's clear that speedy doesn't apply. Thanks for pointing that out. Rodhullandemu 01:20, 11 December 2010 (UTC)

That's OK. And enough of the mealy-mouthing on this: I think that you and I can both agree that it's a crappy article! -- Hoary (talk) 02:12, 11 December 2010 (UTC)

Two things, can you please undelete the talk page too, and you can't PROD it a second time, you can only AfD it... although I think you could CSD it... but A7 of course needs no claimed notability, which isn't a high bar to pass, and is completely unrelated to WP:BLPPROD or referencing. As for the unreferenced BLPs, we are getting around to it.The-Pope (talk) 15:31, 14 December 2010 (UTC)

From yesterday- fees voting in MPs pages

Hi, I answered last night, but don't know whether you get notified about answers to that talk page, and I nearly lost it, so thought I'd copy the thread onto here:

Hi, the addition I made read "Duncan Hames recently voted in favour of increasing student tuition fees, breaking a Lib Dem manifesto pledge, and angering many.[1]" Could you please be more specific about any additional citations you feel this needs?86.174.130.197 (talk) 19:11, 10 December 2010 (UTC)

The source you cited did not mention either the manifesto pledge or "angering many", which I think would probably be incapable of proof. Meanwhile, I've reverted all your edits. In addition, "recently" is insufficiently precise for an encyclopedia as it dates too quickly and any case, your edits, targeting only LibDem MPS, would appear to demonstrate a lack of the neutrality essential here. Please review our major policies before making similar edits. Thanks. Rodhullandemu 19:15, 10 December 2010 (UTC)

Hi, thanks for your advice, you make some good points. The manifesto pledge is easily cited using this [2], and I agree this needs to be included. I agree "recently" is imprecise, and I could instead state the date on which the vote took place, as backed up by the original reference. The 'angering many' is hard to refute given the huge public response and displays of anger. But I agree it is difficult to find specific references for this, and that simple news reports on the protests and petitions would not really be specific enough to the MP concerned. Therefore, I will accept this bit be removed, and only the voting record given until specific sources for this can be found. I am not trying to be partisan in any way, but merely following the recent events of yesterday's vote. My plan was to include this useful information not just in pages of the LibDems who voted for tuition fee rises, but in the pages of all the relevant and involved MPs. I was working my way down the list provided in the original citation. This includes 28 LibDems who voted for the tuition fee changes (which is what you saw me changing) but I was then going to do a similar short sentence for the 21 who voted against, and then also for the 6 Conservative MPs who rebelled and voted against. This is not representing my own views at all, but these are the only MPs whose votes were of interest (either by going against the original manifesto, or going against the majority of their party). Please let me know your thoughts, so we can resolve this.81.151.200.14 (talk) 12:38, 11 December 2010 (UTC)

Sorry, got a bit sidetracked while thinking about this. I don't think you can cite the pledge and then the vote using different sources, because that would be synthesis of those sources to reach a conclusion, which we are not permitted to do. What would be acceptable is a single source for each MP that does this for us, and I'm sure some UK paper will have done that work for you by compiling a list. Other editors may well consider, however, that mentioning one vote in an MP's long career may well be giving it undue weight, and disagree with your edits. I have no current view on that. Cheers. Rodhullandemu 15:59, 11 December 2010 (UTC)

The BBC (and the guardian, but it's just an identical list) is the only decent citation I have managed to find which lists the ways each relevant MP voted and comes from an impartial source (sites like LibDemvoice do the same, but add nothing to the BBC list, and do not include the conservative rebels.) ie, there is no site I can find which both lists the MPs votes and restates the pledge. However, I must say, having read the page on synthesis, I disagree that my sentence, with the two seperate citations, amounts to synthesis at all. In fact it parallels exactly the one example given which is deemed OK. I do not form a conclusion C from the two seperately cited statements, therefore there is no synthesis. eg. "MP x voted against the government's proposals (*cite BBC). This was in keeping with the LibDem pledge made in the 2010 manifesto (*cite manifesto)." There is no conclusion to be drawn from this whatsoever, in fact there is little more that could possibly be said (if you disagree, please let me know what conclusion you think these statements in combination are implying).

The undue weight consideration is one which is difficult to argue on both sides on little other than personal opinion, and I am grateful you are not pushing into that argument, which is bound to end eventually in a moot point. Just to put forward why I thought this particular vote was of importance enough to devote a short sentence to it:- it has been the first major vote to split the coalition (and in particular the LibDems) to such a strong degree, and to cause such uncertainty about the ways each individual MP would vote (with each LibDem being forced either to rebel against the government, or go against their manifesto pledge: both very noteworthy actions). Cheers86.145.170.169 (talk) 13:30, 12 December 2010 (UTC)

Hi again, any responses to my answer? I wouldn't want to annoy people by going ahead and adding the sentence back in while it was still under discussion, but would like to get a decision... cheers109.152.88.14 (talk) 20:35, 16 December 2010 (UTC)

I would think that if there are no objections, you can be bold and add it, with proper sourcing. Rodhullandemu 20:42, 16 December 2010 (UTC)

removal of my contributions

I was just wondering why you keep on removing my contributions to 'Birkenhead' 'Notable people'? (Jamessmithe (talk) 15:44, 11 December 2010 (UTC))

Notable people are generally those who already have articles here, or are likely to qualify. If they don't already have one, a source is usually required to indicate why they may be notable. In the case of your additions, there was no such indication, bearing in mind also that "notable" doesn't mean "notable only in Birkenhead". Rodhullandemu 15:49, 11 December 2010 (UTC)

Time to raise the drawbridge

I'm assuming you haven't semi-protected your page yet because you want to be open to all inquiries etc., but I doubt anyone would have an issue given the crap being posted lately. --Jezebel'sPonyo^{bons mots} 00:44, 12 December 2010 (UTC)

Thanks for that, but intelligence I've received outside of Wikipedia tells me that this is a very small group of idiots, most of whom are now blocked for lengthy periods, and they are unlikely to attract much additional support. If it happens, I will batten down the hatches and they can talk to themselves. But thanks for the concern; I had about four months of that about a year ago, and although it was irritating, it didn't stop me. Also, a belated thanks for your recent email of support; sorry for not replying, but there were just too many to manage. I appreciate the support I do get here, but being an Admin is not designed to make one any friends. Thanks again. Cheers. Rodhullandemu 00:53, 12 December 2010 (UTC)

No worries on the no-reply, the message was genuine and required no response. --Jezebel'sPonyo^{bons mots} 02:09, 12 December 2010 (UTC)

Nevertheless, I have to say that your message, and a couple of others, gave more to me than many others, and perhaps tipped the balance in favour of me staying here, wherever "here" is. Meanwhile, thanks for reverting the trolls on my talk page. It's much appreciated. Regards, Rodhullandemu 02:23, 12 December 2010 (UTC)

DZOK

Rod
DZOK appears to be a joke - but has a long standing history of removals and reinstatements of the same "humorous" material. I'm not even sure if the radio station exists - the link to the Official Website gives a 404 error.
Do I just trim it again? or should it be considered for Speedy/Prod/AFD?
Arjayay (talk) 14:50, 12 December 2010 (UTC)

It seems to exist, according to Google, so I've removed the vandalism & protected for a while. I'll keep an eye on it. Cheers. Rodhullandemu 16:03, 12 December 2010 (UTC)

Thanks Arjayay (talk) 16:33, 12 December 2010 (UTC)

User:Julissa&&Abby

Rod: In this edit you recommended taking a user page to WP:PROD or WP:AFD. Neither of those applies to user pages; they should be taken to WP:MFD instead. --Metropolitan90 (talk) 19:32, 12 December 2010 (UTC)

Sorry, my mistake. Too many late nights. Rodhullandemu 19:36, 12 December 2010 (UTC)

I need your help!

Hi Rod, I recently noticed that you deleted Category:Portal:Kingdom of France. That's fine, my mistake. Here's my problem, I created the Portal:New Spain. However, when I tried to create the portal tab to place with an article related to the New Spain portal, the New Spain flag does not appear. I don't know what I have done wrong. I just can't figure it out. Have a look and you will see it does not appear, Category:New Spain portal. Yet I did create it with Template:New Spain, and with Template:Portal/Images/New Spain. Please help me, I cannot figure this one out. I will be very appreciative if you can solve this one for me! Thank you!--Chnou (talk) 23:03, 12 December 2010 (UTC)

I'm confused; it looks OK to me, the flag seems to appear in the Welcome box? Rodhullandemu 23:09, 12 December 2010 (UTC)

The problem is that the image doesn't show up in the portal box at Category:New Spain portal. I'll take a look into it. - Kingpin¹³ (talk) 23:22, 12 December 2010 (UTC)

Seems to be  Done with a move to lowercase. Hopefully haven't caused any other problems. - Kingpin¹³ (talk) 23:25, 12 December 2010 (UTC)

Thanks. Rodhullandemu 23:26, 12 December 2010 (UTC)

Thank you so much! You guys are great! Thanks Kingpin!--Chnou (talk) 00:36, 13 December 2010 (UTC)

Query

Regarding [1], does this sort of comment and behavior seem appropriate for positive collaboration and constructive discussion at ANI? -- Cirt (talk) 00:23, 13 December 2010 (UTC)

I'm assuming you mean his comment rather than mine, so "no". If you mean mine, the alternative is a warning at least for incivility, and as a former admin, Ryulong should know better. Rather than go through the draaaaamah that would ensue, I've reclosed with a more neutral summary, and it should be let lie, I think. Rodhullandemu 00:26, 13 December 2010 (UTC)

Do you think it would be appropriate for you to leave a warning at the user's talk page? -- Cirt (talk) 00:27, 13 December 2010 (UTC)

I wouldn't want to fan the flames. Rodhullandemu 00:31, 13 December 2010 (UTC)

Okay. -- Cirt (talk) 03:40, 13 December 2010 (UTC)

Smith Jones

I'm sorry that I perceived errors in the ways that he handles himself on WP:ANI, but I honestly cannot see any sort of change in his behavior from two years ago. It seems the majority of people don't agree with me, but William S. Saturn calling me incompetent because of what I have observed over the past two years was a bit much. I'm not retaliating over his comments concerning my block, but they're certainly a factor as to why I felt the need to raise the issue, as it was done twice in the past.—Ryūlóng (竜龙) 00:27, 13 December 2010 (UTC)

I see him as a harmless, good-natured, if a tad eccentric editor who has broken no policies or guidelines that matter. If you don't like his style, he can be ignored. But there seems to be little support for any sanction. I might not put it as strongly as Saturn, but then I'm me, not him. Rodhullandemu 00:31, 13 December 2010 (UTC)

Gillian McKieth (song)

You are absolutely right, you don't have the authority to decline a speedy delete prior to discussion when it clearly meets the SD criteria. You are abusing your privilege. Twospoonfuls (ειπέ)

I think I do. Speedy deletion is not a discussion. If you don't like it, PROD it. But charting singles by artists with articles are regarded as notable, or always have been in the three years (nearly) I've been an admin. So it's my decision, and I've pointed you in the right direction. I suggest you go there, and the best of luck. Rodhullandemu 02:03, 13 December 2010 (UTC)

Rodhullandemu: I wish you good luck trying to have a civil discussion with him. Blue Danube (talk) 06:06, 13 December 2010 (UTC)

Deletion of "Christopher T. York"

The page titled "Christopher T. York" was deleted a few minutes ago, however, all the information is valid (the sources are below) and it should be accounted for that a member of the American World Mountain Running team should be considered notable, especially to those interested in the world distance running scene.

http://www.usmrt.com/article-on-junior-team-member-chris-york http://www.usmrt.com/u-s-mountain-running-team-wins-silver-at-world-championships

Thank you for your time and consideration,

Tarahumara13 (talk) 03:34, 13 December 2010 (UTC)

I deleted it because his sporting prowess was unsourced. If you recreate the article, with reliable sources, it will stand a better chance of staying around. Cheers. Rodhullandemu 03:37, 13 December 2010 (UTC)

Thank you, will do! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Tarahumara13 (talk • contribs) 03:39, 13 December 2010 (UTC)

Pictures

Certain pictures don't show up in the Human penis and Erection articles despite being in the edit box. Can you fix that? Thanks. LittleJerry (talk) 15:30, 13 December 2010 (UTC)

Also this revision may help you know what images he is talking about on this article. − Jhenderson ⁷⁷⁷ 15:42, 13 December 2010 (UTC)

Some seem to have been renamed from "Image:" to "File:"; this may take some time to sort out, but I'm on it. Rodhullandemu 17:52, 13 December 2010 (UTC)

Sock Puppets and Block request

Hi, I saw you're the admin who deleted the Brighton High School Students article by User talk:Tennisking5000. That article was ‎created with the same vandalism/attack content of the same name by a different user User talk:AaronAppelle. Also it looks like both accounts are continuing to vandalize articles. Thanks Bhockey10 (talk) 22:38, 13 December 2010 (UTC)

I've blocked both as vandal-only accounts. That way, we don't need to waste time on a sockpuppetry investigation. Rodhullandemu 22:55, 13 December 2010 (UTC)

Thanks for your fast response to that issue! Keep up the good work! Bhockey10 (talk) 23:20, 14 December 2010 (UTC)

Nomination of University of Birmingham Debating Society for deletion

The article University of Birmingham Debating Society is being discussed concerning whether it is suitable for inclusion as an article according to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.

The article will be discussed at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/University of Birmingham Debating Society until a consensus is reached, and anyone is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on good quality evidence, and our policies and guidelines.

Users may edit the article during the discussion, including to improve the article to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the article-for-deletion template from the top of the article. andy (talk) 00:29, 14 December 2010 (UTC)

Copyright Violation

Need to know a little more specifically how my Bill Barbini article was infringing. Classical musician bio's are often available in nearly identical form in many places around the Internet (via publicists, etc.). Here's the original article which the BOT tagged as infringing.

QUOTE Following his graduation from the Juilliard School, William Barbini became a member of the New York Philharmonic. While in New York, he performed frequently in chamber music ensembles. He was first violinist with the Gramercy String Quartet, the resident ensemble at Lehman College, Fordham University in the Bronx. The Quartet played a series of pre concert performances at Avery Fisher Hall and appeared jointly with Pierre Boulez and the New York Philharmonic. Other chamber music credits include performances with the Balihry Piano Trio, the Philharmonia String Quartet, and violin duos with Kineko Okumura. He has performed solo recitals and concertos with orchestras in this country and Europe. Some of these ensembles include: the New York Philharmonic, Tonkünstler Orchestre, San Francisco Ballet Orchestra, Lancaster Symphony, Niagara Falls Philharmonic, Sacramento Symphony and the Sacramento Chamber Orchestra. Mr. Barbini came to Sacramento in 1983 to serve as concertmaster of the Sacramento Symphony. A year later he joined the faculty of California State University at Sacramento as a member of the Music Department. He is currently the Music Director of the Chamber Music Society of Sacramento and serves as Concertmaster for the Classical Philharmonic, the Pro Art Symphony, Chico Symphony and the Monterey Symphony. Recently Mr. Barbini was invited to join the faculty at the San Francisco Conservatory. UNQUOTE

And here is the biographical portion of my article, which you deleted as a copyright infringement.

QUOTE After graduating from Juilliard (1970), Mr. Barbini joined the string section of the New York Philharmonic. During his tenure with the NY Phil, he frequently performed in chamber music ensembles, including principle violinist of the Gramercy String Quartet. Mr. Barbini appeared frequently with Pierre Boulez and the New York Philharmonic and served as concertmaster for the Joffrey Ballet. Mr. Barbini has performed numerous recitals and concerti with orchestras in Europe and USA. In 1983, Mr. Barbini was appointed concertmaster of the Sacramento Symphony, and in 1984 joined the Sacramento State Music Department. Mr. Barbini also serves on the faculty of the San Francisco Conservatory of Music, as the Music Director of the Chamber Music Society of Sacramento, and as Concertmaster of the Ariel Ensemble. UNQUOTE

I think we can both agree that facts are not subject to copyright. And there are only so many ways one can list a temporal sequence of biographical highlights in a person's life. So, please, tell me how you think this article should be written to avoid "copyright infringement." Thanks. Driz7 (talk) 00:42, 14 December 2010 (UTC)

I think it on balance better to err on the side of caution. Taking one source, as I see it, and rewording it is, if not a copyvio, then plagiarism, although opinions are divided here as to precise dividing lines. My approach, when writing biographies, is to identify a number of reliable sources and then construct a bare article according to the layout in WP:MOSBIO, and I generally write the bio in a chronological format. That way, disparate sources can be used to flesh out the story whilst not infringing copyright policies. I take your point that there are only so many ways of offering the same information and basic facts, of necessity, are usually presented in very similar ways. One course you could take (which I usually recommend) is to start the article as a subpage of your userpage, e.g. here and then work on it until you have taken it beyond a bare recasting of one source. I'll be happy to check it out for you in due course. Rodhullandemu 00:54, 14 December 2010 (UTC)

OK, I'll start fresh with all the different bio's I can collect around the Internet, but unfortunately they all list Mr. Barbini's accomplishments in the same general chronology. I'm not sure there's much more I can do, and encylopedic writing leaves little room for author creativity. Facts be facts. Driz7 (talk) 01:00, 14 December 2010 (UTC)

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Re: Boneyard press deletion

Can you explain why the Boneyard Press Wiki entry's site was deleted? It is a completely legitimate Wiki entry that was sanctioned by the company's creator, Hart D. Fisher. The company is a publishing house that produced many influential works over a span of several years and there is no reason why the article would've been inappropriate for Wikipedia. I work for Hart and we are trying to figure out why the page was taken down. Please contact me and let me know what we need to alter to get the page back up and operational. Thanks. Sopseudogoth (talk) 01:45, 14 December 2010 (UTC)

There was nothing in the article to indicate that any of its published works were influential. What is required to establish notability for our purposes are reliable third party sources; this rarely includes citations to YouTube as these tend to be copyright violations. In particular, self-published sources are not accepted, as notability has to be established, e.g. by properly-written review magazines or sites (generally not including blogs). Hope that help. Rodhullandemu 01:58, 14 December 2010 (UTC)

Edit summary noted

Kind Sir, whack me with a Minnow if I mistake another User page for an article (be gentle). This lousy t-shirt (talk) 00:54, 15 December 2010 (UTC)

Hello Rodhullandemu, This lousy t-shirt has smiled at you! Smiles promote WikiLove and hopefully this one has made your day better. Spread the WikiLove by smiling at someone else, whether it be someone you have had disagreements with in the past or a good friend. Go on, smile! Cheers, and happy editing!
Smile at others by adding {{subst:Smile}} to their talk page with a friendly message.

Hey, not a problem. At least if it's tagged, it gets looked at. Rodhullandemu 00:55, 15 December 2010 (UTC)

Jody L Millard

Rod, the person may exist, but the claim that he played in the NFL is a hoax. Eagles 24/7 (C) 00:57, 15 December 2010 (UTC)

I take it that "blatant hoax" means "completely false". He has an entry on IMDB FWIW, although it's painfully thin. But someone has opened an AfD, which I take to preclude both speedy and PROD as bypassing those procedures. It's a pain, but it gives a chance for deeper scrutiny of the article. Rodhullandemu 01:05, 15 December 2010 (UTC)

Alright, I'll let it go. Eagles 24/7 (C) 01:12, 15 December 2010 (UTC)

Advice

I'm in the middle of a dispute with a brick wall and I don't know how to proceed. Selma Simpson has been editing articles using IMDB as a source for all types of personal biographical personal information (vital stats, religion, relationships) despite being requested ad nauseum by multiple editors not to do so in edit summaries and on her talk page. She created the article Joan Perry based solely on information culled from IMDB - when I stubbed it down to the basics she restored all of the info and sourced it to NNDB.com (also not a RS), all the while insisting the IMDB is a "very reputable database". Bottom line, she absolutely refuses to read WP:RS and WP:V and continues to edit without regard to policy. She has chosen not to listen to any of the advice myself and others have provided and just keeps editing away and reverting with vague edit summaries. Is this ANI worthy? Note that I have a niggling suspicion that this may be a return of a banned user as I've had this exact conversation before with another editor, but will follow that aspect up with an SPI if necessary. --Jezebel'sPonyo^{bons mots} 19:23, 15 December 2010 (UTC)

She claims to have left WP, but I've left a warning and directed her to WP:RSN. By all means file an SPI if you think it's a sock, but if she continues, she could have escalating BLP warnings. Rodhullandemu 19:33, 15 December 2010 (UTC)

I doubt they are gone for good, but have left them some advice in case they decides to stay. The majority of the contentious edits are to biographies of deceased actresses, which makes clear action more difficult as traditional DR venues such as BLPN don't apply. As always, thanks for the help. Cheers, --Jezebel'sPonyo^{bons mots} 19:52, 15 December 2010 (UTC)

South park butters role

I respect your authorata, and I'm only trying to improve Wikipedia I know for a fact that Butters Stotch is a main character, on the official south park wikipedia they say he is the fifth character, I'm so super seriously, you guy. I even gave a reference on the SP website, he is listed 5th and they do names in alphabetical order except for main characters(they are put in role order) Sometimes he is seen with them instead of Kenny (Britany's New Look South Park, sometimes he's seen with all 5 (Osama Bin Laden Has Farty Pants) (Imagination Land Trilogy) (Chinpokomon), and sometimes Just with Cartman or by himself. (countless episodes) his role was considered to Prominent to be recurring Please Change it back. I also provided a reference which was removed immediately. (Dont say another word (talk) 00:57, 16 December 2010 (UTC))

As long as I've been aware of South Park, I have never seen Stotch referred to as a main character, which is why you have to provide a source for it. Your own opinions aren't relevant here, it's what the writers and producers of the show say about him. But I think your word "sometimes" above might be a clue here. Rodhullandemu 01:15, 16 December 2010 (UTC)

Virtual Master Data Management

Rod, from what I gather reading the links, everything points back to a single vendor. That vendor even trademarked Virtual Master Data Manager(tm). This is an area that I work in and believe that this article is self serving and promotes Quiplix products. Searches for VMDM do not return any hits other than those associated with this firm. It is merely their approach to Master Data Management. That was the basis for my claim that the article was a COI. Where is my reasoning flawed? Regards, TScabbard (talk) 02:13, 17 December 2010 (UTC)

I didn't follow all the links, but as written, it did seem to be a technology rather than a product and not overly promotional in tone. That, I think, takes it out of the "blatant advertising" bracket, and you may wish to PROD the article instead. Rodhullandemu 02:17, 17 December 2010 (UTC)

Thanks for the feedback, Rod. I took your advice and PROD the article. Your help following this one would be appreciated. The following justification was given for the deletion. This article promotes a technology that is only used by a single vendor therefore it constitutes a product or service. When searching all major search engines, the term Virtual Master Data Management only occurs in search results with regard to a single company. That company has trademarked the term Virtual Master Data Manager(tm). The in-line reference to virtual harmonization connects to the website of that company. Based upon these facts, it appears this subject meets the criteria of Conflict of Interest for Wikipedia articles. Cheers, TScabbard (talk) 03:01, 17 December 2010 (UTC)

I take your point, and thanks for the detail, but conflict of interest isn't of itself a speediable criterion, and I didn't thin the tone overly promotional. However, PROD may have a better chance of success. Rodhullandemu 03:06, 17 December 2010 (UTC)

I just poured a pint to toast you. Cheers,TScabbard (talk) 03:15, 17 December 2010 (UTC)

Appreciated; the end of my bottle is now in sight, and sleep calls. Tomorrow, however, I will need a decent curry to mark the end of the week, and I will dedicate it to your tolerance. Rodhullandemu 03:24, 17 December 2010 (UTC)

Copyright Law

When the term of copyright protection has expired, the work falls into the public domain. This means that the work has effectively become public property and may be used freely. Perhaps you could explain your rationale for the deletion of two graphics – one of which is a photograph taken over a hundred years ago, the other a much publicised and distributed image, from the article Thomas Ryder and Son.Weiterbewegung (talk) 16:36, 17 December 2010 (UTC)

Copyright subsists from the date of first publication of copyrightable material and expires (in this case) 70 years after the death of the photographer. The image of Ryder did not have a date, and there was no article in which it was used to be able to estimate a date of the photograph. The image of the machine also was undated. In these circumstances we cannot make assumptions and it is up to you to prove epiry of copyright. Meanwhile, if they are free of copyright why not upload them to Commons? Hope that helps. Rodhullandemu 17:20, 17 December 2010 (UTC)

Talk:Natural Philosophy Alliance

Dear Mr. Rodhullandemu, You recently deleted a talk page that I created to get 2 questions answered that I needed for editing a wikipage. Why was the page deleted?
22:15, 16 December 2010 Rodhullandemu (talk | contribs) deleted "Talk:Natural Philosophy Alliance" ‎ (G8: Talk page of a deleted or non-existent page) D c weber (talk) 16:59, 17 December 2010 (UTC)

The article itself was deleted some time ago and there was very little chance of getting your questions answered on its Talk page. The Reliable Sources Noticeboard is the appropriate venue for such questions. Cheers. Rodhullandemu 17:25, 17 December 2010 (UTC)

Thank you. I'll post the questions there.72.241.181.142 (talk) 21:50, 17 December 2010 (UTC)

Deletion of new article Artur Balder

Hi.

My request is about the abrupt deletion of the new article about Artur Balder. There are enough and consistent references to keep it in the wikipedia. The references were below.

Id like to discuss this question, because I think the article should remain where it was.

Thanks

L. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Lolox76 (talk • contribs) 19:25, 17 December 2010 (UTC)

I didn't feel the references adequate to support any of the criteria in WP:CREATIVE, our guideline for filmmakers. The article was also no better than a previous version deleted via a deletion discussion. By all means feel free to raise a deletion review. Rodhullandemu 19:47, 17 December 2010 (UTC)