User talk:MSGJ

Template:Stub category/doc

The Regional stub category template was missing from Template:Other category header templates. Since it's now added to that template, the extra line under "see also" on the Stub cat and regional stub cat /doc pgs is not really necessary, since it is a duplication. Maybe you viewed the /doc pg before I updated the "other cat" template? --Funandtrvl (talk) 21:01, 5 June 2011 (UTC)

Didn't even notice that template, to be honest. Reverted ... — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 21:04, 5 June 2011 (UTC)

No problem, even though Template:Regional stub category/doc is a redirect to Template:Stub category/doc, with |regional=yes -that one line under "See also" isn't necessary anymore. It's better that the "Regional stub cat" is listed on Template:Other category header templates, since the other templates on the list didn't have a link to the Regional template. Cheers! --Funandtrvl (talk) 21:10, 5 June 2011 (UTC)

Thank you

Thank you for your administration, Martin (MSGJ). ;) --777sms (talk) 14:12, 8 June 2011 (UTC)

You are most welome! — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 21:21, 9 June 2011 (UTC)

Template:Singles

Final changes have been made to the sandbox and an edit request has been re-made. Output of the sandbox template is listed on the talk page. –Dream out loud (talk) 21:13, 8 June 2011 (UTC)

All done. — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 21:20, 9 June 2011 (UTC)

Template:Please translate

Hi, I don't think {{please translate}} will be used (and maybe shouldn't be used), but I didn't want to just tag it with G7, since you've edited it. Inquiries at the requestor's talk and the WP:RFT talk have netted no response, so I'm fine with deleting it if you are. If you think I should take it to WP:TFD instead, I can do that too. Thought we might be able to avoid some process though. Thanks, — Bility (talk) 20:58, 9 June 2011 (UTC)

Happy to apply G7 + common sense. Cheers — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 21:20, 9 June 2011 (UTC)

Thanks for the quick response. I guess this redirect and the doc page can go too. Cheers, — Bility (talk) 21:35, 9 June 2011 (UTC)

Seems someone got there before me. — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 13:20, 10 June 2011 (UTC)

list of suite precure episodes

to clarify this is a TV show from Japan. "TV asahi" airs this show in Japan so their website at http://asahi.co.jp/precure/ counts as a since sine they do the schedule. This confirms at the very least the disputed title for episode 18 since the Google translation sot of matches despite being hobiily bad and my traslation was done by a fan from livjournal as such this means I've tracked down the original source. Toei animation produces the show so I'm hoping their site can shed like on the disputed title for 19 but my machine crashes when I try. Darkcat1 (talk) 02:27, 10 June 2011 (UTC)

Santorum

Looks like unprotecting was a mistake, unfortunately: [1]. Nomoskedasticity (talk) 12:06, 10 June 2011 (UTC)

Maybe. But it's been pretty quiet for a long time. Let's watch for a bit. I'd still like it to be fully unprotected to not tie ip24's hands. I think it should be all or nothing. --Anthonyhcole (talk) 12:11, 10 June 2011 (UTC)

Nomas, that was a good faith edit and not vandalism. Rollback should not have been used to revert it. — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 13:19, 10 June 2011 (UTC)

I don't agree (and would not have used rollback if I had agreed) -- that editor was clearly aware of the lack of support on the article talk page for his view. Nomoskedasticity (talk) 13:42, 10 June 2011 (UTC)

Please read WP:VANDNOT. Even if that edit was disruptive, it does not fall into the category of vandalism. — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 15:25, 10 June 2011 (UTC)

MSGJ, as you're aware, the content of your Talk page is entirely your purview. The comment I left was for your consumption (and your Talk page lurkers) not AN/I. I am going to remove it there. (someone replied) My concern was primarily that the request made to you was made based on false information. In spirit, I believe the editor was making an honest plea, but I feel that using misinformation to support it was a mistake. -- Avanu (talk) 13:31, 10 June 2011 (UTC)

I've reprotected this article again. I think it may be more constructive if changes are discussed on the talk page. This blanking and unblanking was getting out of hand. Perhaps the article should go to AfD to resolve this? — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 15:25, 10 June 2011 (UTC)

I can tell you that several editors will say that AfD has already failed several times. And I think the vast majority view is that the article content can be kept. The real question is 'in what form?' In other words, should be be merged or retitled or something else. -- Avanu (talk) 15:35, 10 June 2011 (UTC)

It's been through 3 AFDs, and one or more detailed discussions at BLPN. Good call by the way, it was becoming a distraction. --Anthonyhcole (talk) 16:04, 10 June 2011 (UTC)

MSGJ, per WP:BLP on attack pages, this article MUST be blanked and speedied. I was following policy on this matter. i see you've protected the page, with the contents visible, please kindly blank it per policy. KoshVorlon' _Nal^uboutes _Aeria ^Gloris 15:50, 10 June 2011 (UTC)

Kosh, your thoughts would be most welcome on the article talk page. --Anthonyhcole (talk) 16:04, 10 June 2011 (UTC)

KoshVorlon, the article is about a notable word.[2] It may be outrageous, but it also is a subject discussed in a vast array of publications.[3] I hope you will reconsider your stance that blanking a page that has survived three AfD attempts in five years, most recently less than six months ago, is appropriate conduct by an editor of this encyclopedia. Gacurr (talk) 16:26, 10 June 2011 (UTC)

MSGJ you're mentioned here KoshVorlon' _Nal^uboutes _Aeria ^Gloris 11:17, 13 June 2011 (UTC)

Protected double redirect

Thank you again, Martin for adding the Rcats to Template:R from modification. I noted on that talk page that I defeated the {{R mod}} double redirect, but there is another double redirect, {{R from alternative punctuation}}, that is really screwing up a lot of pages (see this Special page). I think that will all go away when that double redirect is defeated. I'd do it myself, but it's protected. I also don't know if there are any more double redirects. This is probably one reason why we might want to rethink making all the "R from" templates "Redirect from" ones. The bots don't seem to get to these double redirects very quickly, and when left as they are they can really mess up a lot of pages (and categories). – Paine Ellsworth ( CLIMAX )  21:35, 10 June 2011 (UTC)

Looks like Gurch and TheDJ took care of all the double redirects, to include the one I mentioned above. Best to you, Martin! – Paine Ellsworth ( CLIMAX )  22:20, 13 June 2011 (UTC)

Sorry this was caused by me moving the template and not checking up on the double-redirects. I'll be more careful next time. The bot can't touch to the protected ones. Regarding the names of these templates, and in view of the message below, perhaps we should move here and resolve this issue, as it would be better if they all followed the same naming scheme. — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 08:36, 14 June 2011 (UTC)

Template:Redirect from...

Regarding several pagemoves that you had committed some time ago on redirect-categorizing templates, such as this one from "Template:R from modification" to "Template:Redirect from modification", I do not believe that it was wise to do so without linking to some discussion or community consensus supporting them. For one, if you compare both Special:PrefixIndex/Template:R from and Special:PrefixIndex/Template:Redirect from, lots of us editors are more familiar with using "R from" syntax than the longer title. If there did happen to be a relevant discussion for the moves, and I happened to miss it, could you please point it out to me? :| TelCoNaSpVe :| 07:31, 13 June 2011 (UTC)

I have moved a few of them occasionally when I happen to come across them. The rationale is that templates should have a clear name which identifies their purpose and "R from ..." is rather unclear as first glance. There is nothing to stop a shorter version being used as a redirect though, so there is no reason you have to type the longer name. I did try to start a discussion on this once, but there was not much response. If you would like to discuss this, perhaps it would be best to revive that discussion, and I won't move any more for now. — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 08:32, 14 June 2011 (UTC)

Edit notice request

Hi Martin,

Could you set up an edit notice for me at Ketogenic diet? The body builders apparently like to puff up their hobby by using the most overmedicalized name they can find. It needs to say something like:

Thanks, WhatamIdoing (talk) 18:59, 13 June 2011 (UTC)

Okay I've added it. — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 08:24, 14 June 2011 (UTC)

Thanks. WhatamIdoing (talk) 18:27, 14 June 2011 (UTC)

Infobox albums template help

Disregard

 – Figured it out! – Kerαunoςcopia^◁_galaxies 06:26, 14 June 2011 (UTC)

Hi MSGJ, could I bother you to take a look at my request at User_talk:Keraunoscopia#Template_coding_help? I saw your name in the recent edit history of this template and thought I'd reach out for some help with the matter. I'm simply not sure how else to ask for template help : ) Thanks! – Kerαunoςcopia^◁_galaxies 04:07, 14 June 2011 (UTC)

Allrovi templates

Could you move the Allrovi templates that we discussed at Template_talk:Allrovi/movie#Edit_request_to_fix_URL_redirect? I re-added the edit protection request since it hasn't been moved yet. –Dream out loud (talk) 00:19, 22 June 2011 (UTC)

{{WikiProject Tropical cyclones/sandbox}}

Hi MSGJ. I was looking into switching {{hurricane}} to WPBannerMeta (we held out since we tend to implement custom features, but maintenance time for the template comes at a premium now), but there are a few things that are blocking me from doing a full switch to WPBM. In particular, I can't find the way to implement Category:Tropical cyclone articles with incomplete B-Class checklists anywhere, nor I can find how to prevent non-article inclusions from being fed into Category:Unknown-importance Tropical cyclone articles. We also have slightly different formatting for the comments section (to match {{To do}}'s "coffee roll" talk page format) and B-Class checklists. How would I go around modifying the WPBannerMeta sandbox to implement those features? Titoxd^{(?!? - cool stuff)} 02:16, 22 June 2011 (UTC)

I'll certainly look into it for you. Give me a few days? — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 15:29, 22 June 2011 (UTC)

Sure, no hurries. Titoxd^{(?!? - cool stuff)} 18:28, 22 June 2011 (UTC)

Andrew Stewart Jamieson Article

Wesley Phillips (talk) 21:13, 22 June 2011 (UTC)

Hello,

You left a comment on the change request I made on the Jamieson article. My apologies I was not making an actual change to the article. I was only making you aware that the change Werbena was attempting to make was incorrect and providing a reference. In regards to Wiki in our case they are real people. We are trying to work with your legal department regarding issues we are experiencing on your site. Now that Liptak has been banned, no doubt he'll be back, we have another issue that I have reported via info@wikimedia.org and I've contacted your legal department. Thank you for your help. You guys have done all you can. The volunteer who assisted us in dealing with the Liptak vandal was so professional and kind. We are very grateful.

Thank you

Username: Wesley Phillips

Question about the Cat class template

Greetings, I was just wondering about the Cat class template you created. It seems like this is used on a fair amount of categories but not all. Do you think anyone would have a problem if I did a pass though and implemented it on the rest of the assessment categories? --Kumioko (talk) 20:55, 23 June 2011 (UTC)

I didn't create it. Adding it to categories is fairly uncontroversial, but in any job which involves mass edits, it would be worth putting the proposal somewhere central to gather comments from others first! (Then you can point to that discussion in your edit summary.) — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 12:30, 27 June 2011 (UTC)

Ok I can do that. Were do you recommend starting it? I already figured theres about 5400 of them that need it out of about 41000. I started already and have almost completed the A-Class assessment categories and was going to move into the next class (I was going to do all the smaller lists first like Book, Disambig and the like since many projects don't use them) tonight. I am previewing each edit before I make it because the category doesn't always display the way it appears so it will take a little while to get through them but Ill just keep hacking away at it periodically till they are all done. I have also found several other problems or anomolies I have been documenting along the way and will address once this task is complete. --Kumioko (talk) 17:09, 27 June 2011 (UTC)

Yeah, you should not be doing jobs on 5400 pages without prior discussion and consensus, per the bot policy. I would suggest one of the village pumps would be a good place to start the discussion. By the way, one helpful thing you could do would be to go through Category:WikiProject assessment categories needing attention and fix those categories. — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 17:13, 27 June 2011 (UTC)

I could fix some of those but do you know what the problems are? --Kumioko (talk) 17:15, 27 June 2011 (UTC)

Just simple stuff like this. I used to go through these myself but haven't had time recently. — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 17:18, 27 June 2011 (UTC)

Ok Ill take a look. I don't have admin rights so if they are protected I can't do much. I started the discussion on Wikipedia:Village pump (miscellaneous) about the Assessment category issue. Its been my experience that its nearly impossible to gain a concensus on anything and have only seen the exception to that on very rare occassions and I expect it will be quickly squashed as unneeded, unwanted or some other argument but well see. I have plenty of other tasks to work on in the mean time. Cheers. --Kumioko (talk) 17:26, 27 June 2011 (UTC)

Just a note on the assessment category problems you mentioned. I believe the Cat class autodetects what the Class is (ie Class=B) so I don't think that part of the code is really needed. --Kumioko (talk) 17:41, 27 June 2011 (UTC)

So how long do you think I should leave it open? Till the weekend you think? --Kumioko (talk) 02:35, 28 June 2011 (UTC)

Template deletion

Hi, I appreciate being informed if you nom any templates I have been working on, such as {{Cleanup}}. Rgds, Rich Farmbrough, 00:28, 24 June 2011 (UTC).

Sure, but it wasn't my nomination. I was acting on behalf of User:TenPoundHammer who placed an {{editprotected}} request. — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 12:26, 27 June 2011 (UTC)

By the way, could I have your opinions on my proposal at Template talk:Ambox#Raw option. Thanks — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 08:46, 28 June 2011 (UTC)

Template:English variant notice

Hi Martin,

I see this template is really just a wrapper which points at a sample / its own documentation if called directly. Do we really need that? It seems a bit convoluted over just calling what's in Template:English variant notice/core directly and passing it sensible defaults. Any particular reason for doing it that way? Chris Cunningham (user:thumperward) - talk 10:40, 28 June 2011 (UTC)

Hi Chris. I wanted to put an example on the documentation, and this is the only way I could think of which avoided template loops! If you have a better idea, I'm listening. — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 10:46, 28 June 2011 (UTC)

I'm not sure which template loop you're talking about. I've flattened out the sub-templates at {{English variant notice 2}}: what is it that isn't working? Chris Cunningham (user:thumperward) - talk 11:10, 28 June 2011 (UTC)

The automatic documentation generated by Template:English variant notice/documentation. — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 12:11, 28 June 2011 (UTC)

I guess I still don't understand. The documentation at template:English variant notice 2/doc seems to work fine... Chris Cunningham (user:thumperward) - talk 12:40, 28 June 2011 (UTC)

The meta-template currently produces specific documentation for each template that uses it. So the documentation you see at Template:Hiberno-English is produced by Template:English variant notice/documentation. (This is separate from the documentation for the meta-template which is at Template:English variant notice/doc.) It was the examples on this documentation which was causing the template loops. You're right, it does seem a complicated setup, but I don't think you can get this functionality without this level of complication. (Fundamentally it's the detection of template loops which is flawed, because it stops checking the moment it gets to the same template twice, even though the it's not a loop.) By the way, after your change to Template:British English the template now reads "This article uses British English ... Some terms ... differ from ... British English ..."! — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 14:12, 28 June 2011 (UTC)

Ah, right, I get you now. Do we really need instance-specific documentation to be auto-generated? It's a neat hack, but is the complexity worth the saving? As for the problems with the removal of the text line from the BrE / AmE templates, that could be fixed by just removing the words "British, American or " from the main template code. I don't see that we absolutely need to call them out specifically. Chris Cunningham (user:thumperward) - talk 14:30, 28 June 2011 (UTC)

I'm quite proud of my work with that template and think that, when practical, meta-templates should provide documentation for the templates which use them. There are quite a few other examples, for example the stub templates, the flag templates, etc. which do this. If the documentation doesn't require actual examples, then the extra level of complexity is not required. But examples are often useful, and I'm not sure what the objection to complexity is, if it makes things more useful. — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 21:24, 28 June 2011 (UTC)

Fair enough. As I say, it's certainly a clever hack, just one that takes a bit of time to wrap one's head around. :) Any objections to losing the "text" override and just removing the "British or American" part of the wording? It means we're not giving the impression of being US/UK-centric, and simplifies things to boot. Chris Cunningham (user:thumperward) - talk 08:49, 30 June 2011 (UTC)

No strong objections as long as the wording sounds natural on all the templates. Another template which overrides the text is Template:British English Oxford spelling and I don't think you can get rid of that one. And ... you could call it a feature rather than a hack! — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 09:34, 30 June 2011 (UTC)

Oh, don't get me wrong, I use "hack" in the Great Unix Tradition: I didn't mean it to be disparaging at all, more of a clever solution to a complicated problem. :) (which has reminded me to clean up the horrid mess that our coverage of that subject is on WP right now.) The Oxford one is a tougher call, but one solution would be to change the default text to begin This article is written in [[{{{variant}}}]]. Some terms that are used in it differ from or are not used in other dialects of English. Is that clear enough, d'you think? Chris Cunningham (user:thumperward) - talk 10:17, 30 June 2011 (UTC)

Talkback

Hello, MSGJ. You have new messages at Template talk:Multiple issues.
Message added 10:44, 28 June 2011 (UTC). You can remove this notice at any time by removing the {{Talkback}} or {{Tb}} template.

I updated the sandbox and gave an example. Would you update the template? mabdul 10:44, 28 June 2011 (UTC)

Replied there, and watching. — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 10:49, 28 June 2011 (UTC)

Is smackbot doing automatically intrating it, or has it to be reprogrammed? mabdul 14:34, 28 June 2011 (UTC)

QUESTIONING CHANGES YOU MADE

Hey. I just created this page to add on to the info of an artist (singer) who is not new to the scene. Has much relevance. Her name is Soni Guzman & she goes by her first name, Soni who is from New York. Noticed her page had been deleted so I am not able to add on. Also noticed you said she was Albanian. That is definitely a different person. There is plenty room for people who may have similar names. It mentioned you had contributed to the deletion of the page. You may not be a fan or have knowledge of her work but there are plenty of fans that may find it helpful to have some information on wikipedia as there are a few other artists she has collaborated with which mention her name in there discography section on there wik page with no link to where they can find more info on her. Not sure why you deleted the page. Feel sorry for the person who put that work into it. I had seen it about a year ago. Is there a way to repost what you deleted so I may add on some new information? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Legitinformation123 (talk • contribs) 23:34, 28 June 2011 (UTC)

Category

Is Category:Templates needing substitution checking a temporary cat to roll out Amalthea's fix? Rich Farmbrough, 11:19, 29 June 2011 (UTC).

It is a temporary category, intended to track templates using {{fix}} which did not yet have substcheck on them. If we are going with Amalthea's solution in the long term then they may not be a use for this. BTW, I replied to your comment above as well. — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 16:25, 29 June 2011 (UTC)

Talkback

Hello, MSGJ. You have new messages at Template talk:WikiProject India.
Message added 11:40, 29 June 2011 (UTC). You can remove this notice at any time by removing the {{Talkback}} or {{Tb}} template.

naveenpf (talk) 11:40, 29 June 2011 (UTC)

Samuel Koranteng-Pipim

I noticed you have been removing many paragraphs from the Pipim article which is currently locked. May I request that you please allow time for others to comment and give references. The last 2 paragraphs you removed have references that could be added. The point of protecting the article was to stop these kind of edits from occurring without discussion. I have found numerous sources that I would like to add to that paragraph which would strengthen it. One new IP does not constitute consensus, especially where there are other editors who are opposed and can add valid references. Thanks for hearing the concerns. If I have to wait I can wait till the article is unprotected and add the references (properly sourced) and paragraph later.--Fountainviewkid (talk) 14:13, 29 June 2011 (UTC)

The request was first proposed on 24 June. I think 5 days should be enough time for anyone to raise an objection. (I know you were blocked for most of this time.) — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 15:50, 29 June 2011 (UTC)

That's not really a lot of time considering that this article has been protected for a reason. If we are removing whole paragraphs after only 5 days then that kind of defeats the point of protection. I think we need to wait, especially since I was blocked (thankfully not any longer). Remember these are new IP's who are rather single purposely focused on this one article. Nevertheless, we raised many many objections. Not just myself but other editors as well. You said 5 days should be enough and during that 5 days objections were raised. I think we should first reach some kind of consensus before we single-handedly delete sections of an article where there are a lot of disputes. If you noticed the other admins have been delaying taking direction action because of this reason.--Fountainviewkid (talk) 15:58, 29 June 2011 (UTC)

Another admin, Sandstein, which saw this ruled "no consensus" and said "Please obtain consensus for the proposed edit before making the edit request". You then declined the request, however after accepting the word of the IP that it was different you then deleted the section, again without consensus. This doesn't make a lot of sense. Also we don't know for sure whether the IP's editing are all the same or not. For all we know they could have some kind of collaboration which is still against consensus.--Fountainviewkid (talk) 16:02, 29 June 2011 (UTC)

It actually makes complete sense. I declined the request on 27th. Two days later, the IPs confirmed they were two different editors and User:HopeAfrique had not returned to the discussion. Therefore I deemed that consensus was met. If the discussion goes the other way this can be reversed. I think you should continue to discuss this on the talk page. — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 16:22, 29 June 2011 (UTC)

Hope hasn't returned in 2 days? Of course. Not all of us can be on there discussing every day. Hope has been involved in other discussions on the page. All we're asking is you wait a little bit longer. Let us first discuss for more than a day or two. Consensus won't be achieved overnight. I can tell you that Hope is definitely in agreement with myself in that he/she is opposed to the deletion of that section. What will happen, however is that the IP's (whichever they be) will continue pushing for deletion while Hope, myself, Donald, and maybe other editors or admins will push for caution. Thanks for your fairness and willing to reverse decisions based on consensus. Again all we ask for is caution. Thanks.--Fountainviewkid (talk) 16:30, 29 June 2011 (UTC)

Nomination for deletion of Template:AFC redir

Template:AFC redir has been nominated for deletion. You are invited to comment on the discussion at the template's entry on the Templates for discussion page. Chris Cunningham (user:thumperward) - talk 15:15, 1 July 2011 (UTC)

Ambox and categories

Just now I saw Template_talk:Ambox#Add_functionality_to_ambox. As you said yourself there, that page is not well watched, and wasn't on my watchlist. And it took a long time before an edit was made to a template that made the change show up on my watchlist. And even longer till I realized that this is systematic. But here I am now. Btw, if you'd like to move my post above to a new section on the Ambox talkpage, please feel free to do so, just drop me a line, please. Debresser (talk) 16:01, 4 July 2011 (UTC)

I have moved your comment and also replied there. — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 11:41, 6 July 2011 (UTC)

Your opinion

And while we're at it, please tell me your opinion about a small issue on Template_talk:Cv-unsure#Who. Debresser (talk) 02:06, 3 July 2011 (UTC)

That issue has since unexpectedly been commented upon by many editors, and your input isn't necessary any more for consensus building. Of course, still feel free to comment as you please. Debresser (talk) 15:55, 4 July 2011 (UTC)

Looks like that is sorted and I don't really have an opinion on it anyway. Cheers — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 11:30, 6 July 2011 (UTC)

Re: Template:WikiProject Animation

Well, no, there has not been discussed with the Animation WikiProject, since I've been working the WikiProject Animation banner a lot myself and added new parameters and work groups inculding Warner Bros. Animation, World animation and computer animation work groups before you protected it. Since WP:ANIMATION has been almost inactive, I've started adding new work groups back in November and March. Look, I've made a lot a changes on the banner before you protected the template, however, I am not an administrator yet, but I will become one once I will work the banner myself. I've created and started the Animated films work group and DreamWorks Animation work group to cover all animated films and DreamWorks Animation-related articles with the WP:ANIMATION tag. Still, I am not very happy since you protected the template. Look, I don't want take this to WP:MFD anytime soon, I've also removed all the importances for each work groups and removed the Cartoon Network portal, and created the work group text template (which was deleted two times), similar to the WikiProject Korea and WikiProject Canada banner. JJ98 (Talk / Contributions) 18:51, 4 July 2011 (UTC)

Hello, please see my comment at Template talk:WikiProject Animation. Thank you. JJ98 (Talk / Contributions) 18:17, 6 July 2011 (UTC)

Reply to your comment

Hi MSGJ, I replied to your comment [4]. The edit request is still open so we should resolve it. Thanks! meshach (talk) 17:16, 5 July 2011 (UTC)

Proper template format

Martin, you are obviously knowledgeable about templates, and I'm just learning. I wanted to address the request here, but I'm not sure whether to replace

| class = selfref

with

 | class = selfref noprint

or

| class = "selfref noprint"

Could you advise? And while I realize you could do it faster than you could respond to me, I'd like to do it myself.--SPhilbrickT 14:37, 6 July 2011 (UTC)

Template:WikiProject United States

Greetings, I am having some trouble making an update to this template in the sandbox and I was hoping you might be willing to give me some help. I am trying to add the capability to add more projects and I just can't seem to get it right. With the addition of WP Asian American and Franco American the list of projects is 11 and there are 6 more pending discussions. The Template:WikiProject United States/sandbox has the current code I was working on and I think I am close but I just can't seem to get it to work. I appreciate any help. If you can add make the 2nd section work I can do the work to add the projects. --Kumioko (talk) 15:34, 7 July 2011 (UTC)

La_goutte_de_pluie

Kindly advise how to deal with editors like La goutte de pluie who repeatedly want to get involved with articles like Vivian Balakrishnan, which apparently she does not know how to give a fair edit to. Same problem is happening to Tin Pei Ling page, where I was temporarily blocked by her from editing yesterday and now the page is protected after her accusations made against me of sockpuppetry, which I insist that it's just my IP which keeps flipping that i couldn't control.