User talk:FourthAve

My real name is Mark. My main effort has been the article on the Fourth Avenue Line of the NYC subway. I've also touched up articles I've linked to it, mainly to clarify things. --FourthAve 23:49, 9 July 2005 (UTC)

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Jim Nussle

When did all this happen with Jim Nussle and the University of Dubuque? I didn't know his wife was even teaching at UD. I'm sure that his divorce from his first wife made the news at the time and I probably heard about it, but I had forgotten all about it - I had just started at UD at the time and my mind was really not that much on politicans then.
JesseG 05:18, August 12, 2005 (UTC)

FourthAve, you're a real charmer what with calling his wife a whore and all. That was you, right? Jaysus Chris 02:21, 13 January 2006 (UTC)

FourthAve, you seem to make many worthwhile contributions to WP. Why are you ruining your goodwill with this silliness? I'm not sure how your cumpulsive need to swear about and slur a politician's wife squares with your other edits. I count six seperate times where you've used the word "slut" or "whore". Care to explain how this contributes to the WP community? - Jaysus Chris 08:29, 2 February 2006 (UTC)

Welcome!

Hello, FourthAve, and welcome to Wikipedia! Thank you for your contributions. I hope you like the place and decide to stay. Unfortunately, one of your contributions does not conform to Wikipedia's Neutral Point of View policy (NPOV). Wikipedia articles should refer only to facts and interpretations that have been stated in print or on reputable websites or other forms of media.

There's a page about the NPOV policy that has tips on how to effectively write about disparate points of view without compromising the NPOV status of the article as a whole. If you are stuck, and looking for help, please come to the Questions page, where experienced Wikipedians can answer any queries you have! Or, to ask for help on your talk page, and a volunteer should respond shortly. Below are a few other good links for newcomers:

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the S.P.

I envision some changes for the sunset park article. To clarify, did you mean Basilica of Our Lady of Perpetual Help? [1]? Where else would you think the reference to the film 'Sunset Park should be? --Howrealisreal 22:16, 10 July 2005 (UTC)

Basilicas

I've moved the piece on Basilicas from my main page to my discussion page. With a response. JASpencer 17:09, 13 July 2005 (UTC)

Five points of Calvinism

Hi, Mark. I redirected your new page The TULIP to the existing page for Five points of Calvinism (which, by the by, could use some work; I've been updating each of the five points [haven't gotten to "U" yet], and those changes need to be reflected in the article on all five). Anywho, welcome to the Wikipedia! If you have any questions or concerns, feel free to ask on my talk page. Cheers! --Flex 12:25, July 15, 2005 (UTC)

dupe article

Compare Twosret and the article I just wikified, Queen_Tausret. I don't know where to leave such a message, so I leave it here.--FourthAve 05:02, 16 July 2005 (UTC)

• The appropriate thing to do in such circumstances is to merge the two articles under one title, noting this in the edit summary (important so the source of the info isn't lost), and making the other article a redirect. I've now merged the info in Queen Tausret to Twosret (while taking note of some info in other sources) and made the former a redirect. You can also use Template:Merge to request that others merge duplicate artticles.--Pharos 05:47, 16 July 2005 (UTC)

Re: nobility stubs

Hi - you're right. The situation was until recently that all kings and nobility were placed together as nobility stubs (by definition, royalty is the top of the hierarchy of nobility). Recently, however, it was decided to split these stubs into nobility and royalty. There are a huge number of them to sort through, though, so it will take time before they're all assigned to their correct stub categories. (Others are doing that - I'm busy sorting through 4000 British geography stubs!). Oh, and you're right, I do need to archive, but I do that every two weeks. Shows how much mail I get... Grutness...wha? 07:02, 17 July 2005 (UTC)

Interwiki links

Hi, I saw your question on JASpencer's talk page, and thought I'd let you know how to create interlanguage links. If you want to link to another language wiki's article, just add a link at the bottom of article with the ISO 639 code of the language, a colon, and the article title, like this: [[es:Papa]]. The link will appear on the left side of the article, under the tool box. If you want an inline link to another wiki, do pretty much the same thing, except add a colon in front of the language link, like this: [[:es:Papa]]. It's that simple. Gentgeen 06:43, 19 July 2005 (UTC)

Mark, I made the change you requested, but because it's against the manual of style's guidelines, I quickly reverted myself. You can see the version with the inline interlanguage link in this saved copy of the page that can be found in the page's history. I hope this was helpful. Have you considered going through the self-guided tutorial? It can show you lots of little tricks and wiki-text standards. Gentgeen 16:54, 19 July 2005 (UTC)

Thanks Gentgeen JASpencer 17:40, 21 July 2005 (UTC)

1911

Thanks! I'll get right on it. If you find that we already have an article for a 1911 topic, you can just #REDIRECT it, or remove the line from the list if a redirect deosn't make sense. THanks again, --Magnus Manske 12:19, July 22, 2005 (UTC)

Marie-Josèphe

I've moved Marie-Josèphe to Marie-Josèphe of Saxony. This will prevent confusion with other women who shared her Christian name. - Nunh-huh 06:13, 24 July 2005 (UTC)

"Move" always leaves a redirect behind. If you're interested in the naming of such articles, have a look at Wikipedia:Naming conventions (names and titles). You'll see there are a nearly endless variety of possibilities! - Nunh-huh 07:21, 24 July 2005 (UTC)

EB

Hi, I'm not sure what you mean as it is working fine from my end. I don't see any chopped off entries. Could you be a little more specific? --DanielCD 21:07, 25 July 2005 (UTC)

1911/2004/Nuttall

I think your annotations are useful, as they give an initial impresion of what the EB article is about, an if it pays to try and import it (people usually do, places often do not). Listing them by topic instead of alphabet might become an option later, as I fear there are too many left right now. Of course, an additional list can't do any harm, except we'll have to clean up another list now and then; it might attract specialists, though, for example "India-philes". Don't annotate the "corss"-pages, though, as I will replace them with new once from time to time. Oh, the Wikisource backlink: IMHO, that should only be done if there's an actual apge at wikisource, which for most pages is not the case. --Magnus Manske 10:17, July 26, 2005 (UTC)

Category:People stubs

Hi - you wrote: How does one ever wallow through all of the subcategories and sub-subcats and find the one you want? I am tired of slapping bio-stub on articles I submit, but it's easier than spending an inordinate amount of time digging through the bio cats. I have been importing EB 1911 stuff, and discover I spend far more time rooting thru categories than I ever spend on copyediting and adding links.

Three rules of thumb:

1. {{countryname-bio-stub}} and {{occupationname-stub}} will hit the mark a lot of the time (e.g., US-bio-stub and writer-stub) - just do a preview to check they don't redlink.
2. If all else fails, just stick {{bio-stub}} on them, and a stub sorter will categorise them further.
3. You're more likely to get a response by asking on my iser talk page than on my user page!

Grutness...wha? 09:02, 28 July 2005 (UTC)

Royalists

Did you do this special page? You've certainly been there. If you did not do it, I would like to send a message to the author.

No. Never been there before you pointed it out. I had no idea there were such things as special pages! I have no idea who the author is. Philip Baird Shearer 01:11, 29 July 2005 (UTC)

Just done a quick search on the text in "William Pugh (Welsh author)". I have found it: http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/15532a.htm which an electronic version of "The Catholic Encyclopedia, Volume XV Copyright © 1912 by Robert Appleton Company Online Edition Copyright © 2003 by K. Knight. Philip Baird Shearer 01:24, 29 July 2005 (UTC)

Hi again - you wrote: at this wiki page, which seems to be decaying. (It pays to save links offline) What's a special page? This leads to Royalist, the grandest of all disambigs: it refers to a disambig which nicely disambigs itself -- and all the pages that lead to it. Who wrote this page.

It writes itself. Anything that links to the page Royalist will automatically be listed there. All pages have them - click the "What links here" link in the toolbox at the side of any page and you'll get a page like that. Pages of this type for disambiguation pages usually slowly deprecate (i.e., "decay"), as people realise that they have linked to a disambiguation page rather than their real target page. Special pages include pages like this which are created as editing tooks within the Wiki but which are not articles, templates, categories, user or talk pages. A list of other types of special pages can be found at Special:Specialpages - which again can be found in the toolbox at the side of any page. Grutness...wha? 07:36, 29 July 2005 (UTC)

Przeworsk culture

Hi Fourthave! I see that you're a newcomer at Wikipedia. Welcome! I saw your addition of quotes at the talkpage of the Przeworsk culture and it is great that you check for information. The idea that it was Germanic is not new at all, but the site you quoted seems to have a certain POV. The German site you quote does not call this culture Germanic, it calls the culture German. This is a worrying sign about the intentions of the authors.--Wiglaf 21:23, 29 July 2005 (UTC)

I was saving some other stuff too and you stepped on it. No great loss -- notes from a polish site. Note that the authors, Marek Oledzki (Lodz) and Magdalena Maczynska (Lódz) are poles, however.--FourthAve 21:35, 29 July 2005 (UTC)

I am sorry about that. I hope that you have not lost it.--Wiglaf 21:45, 29 July 2005 (UTC)

My only ref for Prz is the very scant article Mallory gives in EIEC so I've been snooping around for material. It seems however that the Prz culture was Germanic, specifically Gothic and/or Vandalic.--FourthAve 21:35, 29 July 2005 (UTC)

Well, perhaps Vandalic. However, please not Gothic, that messes up with my article on the Wielbark culture ;).--Wiglaf 21:45, 29 July 2005 (UTC)

The Battleaxe people article is terrible. I've fiddled a little with it. I propose moving it to Corded Ware culture, after cleaning up the text. --FourthAve 21:35, 29 July 2005 (UTC)

Please, Be Bold.--Wiglaf 21:45, 29 July 2005 (UTC)

I adapted your wonderful map for the Terramare culture article snatched from the 1911 EB. Got one for the Corded Ware culture?

I am glad you like it! I will consider making a map on the CWC, it would be interesting and useful.--Wiglaf 21:45, 29 July 2005 (UTC)

Very good work on the article. Keep on!--Wiglaf 09:55, 30 July 2005 (UTC)

All these cultures are yours, except for the Wielbark culture. Do not attempt to land there, Wiglaf is very protective about it :) dab (ᛏ) 15:53, 3 August 2005 (UTC)

Cultures

Great work on archaeological cultures!!! Concerning the Chernoles culture it seems to be hard to find information on it. I will keep it in mind.--Wiglaf 09:37, 31 July 2005 (UTC)

My article on the Chernoles culture got a reply from an apparent Admin. I assumed it would. I think you have the power to look.

As I said and as you agree, there is near to zilch on the web about the Chernoles culture. But you are an admin, so you can do urgent requests to other-languaged wikis for a good translated article. Maybe the krauts, more likely the Russkies. And yes, the CWc will appear. --FourthAve 10:00, 31 July 2005 (UTC)

RE:Earl Waldegrave

Hi Mark. The Duke of Newcastle and the Duke of Devonshire both occupied the postition of Prime Minister before and after each other (in other words they took turns if you like, although it was a bit more complicated than that). The Peerage.com certainly lists the 2nd Earl Waldegrave as Prime Minister and First Lord of the Treasury but that site does have a few mistakes and I don't think he's listed as Prime Minister usually as he served as First Lord etc. for just a short time (a bit like Lady Jane Grey and Henry the Young King not usually being counted as monarch of England). I hope this helps. Craigy (talk) 00:44, August 1, 2005 (UTC)

welcome

hi Mark. I have really been waiting for someone to turn up and volounteer to look after all these archaeological cultures. So your energetic approach to things is most welcome, I hope you can carry on at this pace :) And yes, anything in the EIEC is certainly Wiki-worthy, so as long as you keep ripping that book, you'll meet little or no resistence. Concerning layout and navigation issues like the template: don't be hasty. The globular amphora link is fine, but make sure to discuss your more 'radical' plans in advance. There are various schools of thought as to how templates should be done, and you are bound to meet opposition from one quarter or the other. keep up the good work! dab (ᛏ) 15:49, 3 August 2005 (UTC)

EIEC

since you seem to be going to quote that a lot, I suggest you write the Encyclopedia of Indo-European Culture culture (and redirect EIEC to it), so you can easily link there from all over the place (compare the IEW link:). dab (ᛏ) 15:55, 3 August 2005 (UTC)

but see my note on Category:EIEC. I suggest listing it on WP:CFD and moving to Category:Indo-European cultures (or Category:Indo-European culture). Whether an article has an EIEC entry is not relevant. The articles on languages do, but they go on Category:Indo-European languages, not Category:EIEC.

re images, it doesn't need to be GFDL or PD. We can easily use the {{fairuse}} tag for low-resolution images from academic publications. dab (ᛏ) 13:36, 4 August 2005 (UTC)

chariots

sorry if I seem to be spamming you, but I've been looking for an image of the Sintashta chariot for ages (and couldn't find one), for the chariot article. If you have access to one, please do upload it! dab (ᛏ) 15:57, 3 August 2005 (UTC)

Archaeological cultures

And I would suggest you to list your articles pertaining to Russian at the Wikipedia:Wikiportal/Russia/New article announcements. You may post questions about Russia-related issues at Wikipedia:Wikiportal/Russia/Russia-related Wikipedia notice board.

Also I would like you to look at Samara culture and Seroglazovo culture, which I created with miserable knowledge in the topic for the sole purpose of eliminating red links and fix misspellings/mistranslations in the names. mikka (t) 16:42, 5 August 2005 (UTC)

Von Tischendorf

Thanks for the tip... I'll get on it! Codex Sinaiticus 16:39, 10 August 2005 (UTC)

Minusa basin guesses

There were three rivers near Minisinck. I wasn't sure which one you meant. So take your pick...My first guess -- I don't know where the eastern end of the basin is. So I just guessed.

Guess at Minusa basin 1

Guess at Minusa basin 2

Guess at Minusa basin 3

An online map making tool

I use this online map tool to make maps. Here is an example:

File:Iviewcapture date 07 08 2005 time 19 12 13.png

Using http://www.aquarius.geomar.de/omc/

Image:Minusa River Valley

Corded Ware culture

Hi Fourthave. I saw that you have classified the corded ware culture as non-IE. This strikes me as odd as this culture is usually cited as the one that introduced IE into Scandinavia. Moreover, the culture was strikingly IE in appearance with personal graves (and not matrilocal communal graves as the previous culture), tarpans were introduced as well as mounds and the axe as a macho symbol. Moreoever, the geographical distribution of the culture fits very well the idea of an early IE expansion. Surely, it is a kurganized culture.--Wiglaf 09:16, 11 August 2005 (UTC)

We sorely need some maps of these cultures. At the moment I have no access to such maps, but if you are interested you could send me scans of any maps in the EIEC, and I'll provide public domain maps for Wikipedia :).--Wiglaf 09:48, 11 August 2005 (UTC)

Hjalmar Hammarsköld

Sure, I will translate the Swedish article today, since you ask. The Unforgiven wants to rewrite the history of Normandy and claim that it is named after the Norwegians. I state that the Franks hardly knew the finer points of Scandinavian ethnicities, and that we are not here to rewrite history or publish original research.--Wiglaf 08:12, 12 August 2005 (UTC)

It's not rewriting history. Tell that to HM the Queen of the Commonwealth Kingdoms. TheUnforgiven 13:03, 12 August 2005 (UTC)

Dang! Someone beat me to it. I had intended to make that page tonight when I had more time to fiddle with tables. I'll still go through it.--Wiglaf 15:14, 12 August 2005 (UTC)

Cu

Well, I don't like "Copper Age" too much. It sounds like a four age system, Stone-Copper-Bronze-Iron, while it is rather subset of the Neolithic, much like the "Steel Age" is subset of the Iron Age. Not that I will lose sleep over the question, though, so feel free to use whatever you prefer. Nice work on all these obscure cultures, I'm really looking forward towards stuffing them all into maps! dab (ᛏ) 14:39, 12 August 2005 (UTC)

Minusa 2

I've become curious about that evasive river, and frankly, I don't think there is a "Minusa River basin". It's a ghost river, or rather the brook of about 30 km visible here this site claims that Min Usa is Turkic for "my brook". Or, as this site claims, it is Turkic for "thousand rivers", meaning that the whole area with all its little rivers is meant. In any case, I don't think we can confidently talk about a "Minusa River", it may as well be the "Minusa area", equalling the "Minusinsky area". dab (ᛏ) 15:15, 12 August 2005 (UTC)

Folk etymology derives the name of the Minusa River from the Mongolian "mini-su" for "my river". Alternative interpretation derives the river's name from "minsug", i.e., "much water". In Khakasian language, Minusug means "warm waters". [2] I have no idea which etymology is correct, though. --Ghirlandajo 20:15, 13 August 2005 (UTC)

Minusa 3

As best I understand, the basin is named after the town of Minusinsk and not after two tiny Minusinka brooks which gave its name to the town. Neither the basin's name could be derived from the Minusa riverlet, for it would have been called "Minusskaya" and not "Minusinskaya" in this case.--Ghirlandajo 20:31, 13 August 2005 (UTC)

it seems, then, that the EIEC just fouled up here in calling the place "Minusa River basin" instead of "Minusinskaya basin". dab (ᛏ) 08:03, 14 August 2005 (UTC)

Kura-Araxes culture

Thanks for your work on this article. I'm not at all an expert on the subject; I cobbled the original article together from a number of sources. A lot of the books I looked at only had a few paragraphs or less on them. Isomorphic 08:02, 14 August 2005 (UTC)

LBK

I am waiting for a reaction (sources etc.) on my talk page. Juro 21:44, 14 August 2005 (UTC)

FourthAve, I undertand you point of view, but the naming policy on Wikipedia is to use the most common name in English, and I believe that Linear Pottery culture is the most common one.--Wiglaf 22:25, 14 August 2005 (UTC)

Trust me. You have just discovered an old Wikipedia tradition ... the naming of a page dispute.--Wiglaf 22:38, 14 August 2005 (UTC)

If you can show that one name is more common than the others, you should use it.--Wiglaf 22:57, 14 August 2005 (UTC)

...stuff

take it easy. You are experiencing a slight case of wikistress. It happens to everybody, sooner or later. Wikipedia is great, but there are a few drawbacks that come packaged with the deal. Just take a deep breath, or if that isn't enough, a short wikibreak. Your Category:EIEC is still in place. You are just sometimes mistyping it as Category:EEIC. The naming dispute, hell, what does it matter what it is called at this point. The important thing is the merge. Another move of the merged article can still be arranged later. dab (ᛏ) 06:11, 15 August 2005 (UTC)

Stinking Satem problem

Hi, FourthAge. I am not your enemy, false or true :-). And I am not a linguistic ignoramus, really. As I see, you are interested in archeology rather than in linguistic. Believe or not but our clash on Indo-European languages was not needed for anybody. You seem to have read an IE encyclopedia and you seem to have learnt there that Satem is an areal term. But you know... I have read more books (in various languages) and I know that various authors present different views in this point. And, if the problem is not solved univocally, Wikipedia should note it. Especially that we do not talk about some (unimportant) authors but about a theory which has already been existing for a century and which is still alive and works as the basis for university students in some countries. Personally I think that the theory is right - of course this is unimportant for Wiki, and the only think I want is to mention that there are different opinions that the one which has already been presented. Is this bad?

And there is no reason to get excited. I do not want to be either false-friendly or offensive for you and I believe that you have had in mind Wikipedia to be up to the mark, and nothing more. But if an archeologist try to learn a linguist what linguistic terms mean... You must know what the reaction may be. So, let's better work on the same side, OK? And if I write something which you do not like, just talk to me. And we understand our points for sure.

--Grzegorj 07:24, 15 August 2005 (UTC)

Funnelbeaker map

You have to ask Dab about this, since he has access to the original map. I have no clue about these central European cultures.--Wiglaf 15:21, 15 August 2005 (UTC)

Help request

I have created or expanded the following cultures:

• Pitted Ware culture
• Nøstvet and Lihult cultures
• Fosna-Hensbacka culture

I wonder whether you would check these obscure Scandinavian cultures in your EIEC, and see whether it has anything to say about speculations on their linguistic affiliations. They may be registered under names such as Fosna, Nöstvet, Sandarne and Lihult. I would much appreciate it.--Wiglaf 19:07, 15 August 2005 (UTC)

Lofoten

I believe that it is this culture you are looking for: Fosna-Hensbacka culture.--Wiglaf 08:44, 16 August 2005 (UTC)

PS, would you mind if I rename the corded ware culture article into the battle-axe culture? The corded ware culture was a subgroup in central Europe. I guess the name is frequently used for the whole battle-axe culture, like England is used for Great Britain, and Holland for the Netherlands, but in Wikipedia it is better to be exact about the naming.--Wiglaf 08:44, 16 August 2005 (UTC)

Naming

Don't worry, I have seen so many naming disputes that I don't care that much. I am not suprised by what you're saying. The Central European corded ware culture is the most prominent and well-known. However, by reserving corded ware for the central European version, we can divide the article into the sections I propose. This is what I suggest based on Nationalencyklopedin:

1. Corded Ware culture (central Europe)
2. Swedish-Norwegian Battle-Axe culture
3. Finnish Battle-Axe culture.
4. Middle-Dniepr culture
5. Fatyanovo-Balanovo culture

In this way there can be a larger article with sections and subarticles on the culture's divisions.--Wiglaf 09:42, 16 August 2005 (UTC)

If you insist on keeping the name of the article, what do you suggest for the Central European subculture? The eponymous corded ware culture?--Wiglaf 10:06, 16 August 2005 (UTC)

Thanks :)!--Wiglaf 10:16, 16 August 2005 (UTC)

Pit-Comb Ware culture

I saw that you had created an article on a culture which already existed. I moved your content to the old article, named Comb Ceramic culture, and then I moved the old article back to your name. I hope this is alright with you.--Wiglaf 13:04, 16 August 2005 (UTC)

Naming again

Yes, we're probably both right. Perhaps we could as User:Adamsan and User:Dbachmann what they think.--Wiglaf 13:53, 17 August 2005 (UTC)

Pilpul

The term is used in different ways. Frequently, English speakers refer to the actual pilpul process when using the term pilpul, and its use as "caustical hairsplitting" is indeed a colloquialism. Of course, if someone rarely speaks of the actual pilpul process, he isn't likely to use the term in that context more frequently than as a colloquialism. The term's colloquial meaning isn't entirely (and perhaps not even primarily) dependent on reference to Haredi learning style, though Haredim are often wrongly accused (by outsiders) of "caustical hairsplitting." So perhaps the end of the article could be revised to reflect that. HKT ^talk 14:44, 17 August 2005 (UTC)

Additions

Great addition FourthAve! Concerning the naming, I'll ask for User:Adamsan's opinion, as I know that he is an archaeologist.--Wiglaf 20:38, 17 August 2005 (UTC)

Josephus

There isn't any quarrel AFAIK. Your comments are very helpful- I've replied fully on my talk page. --Doc (?) 20:50, 17 August 2005 (UTC)

Hits

I am afraid I don't know of any way of measuring the number of hits. I usually estimate an article's popularity by looking at the number of edits and contributors in the page's history.--Wiglaf 18:00, 18 August 2005 (UTC)

I don't think it would help with banning anons, as it is just as easy to block an anon as a registered user. It would only slow down the growth of Wikipedia as people might hesitate to contribute if they first have to register. I spent eight months contributing without bothering to register :). Trolls, vandals, crackpots, POV-pushers have always been a serious problem, but I think it works well anyway, and they contribute a bit of exciting stress. What makes Wikipedia work are all the people who are here to improve it, and they are the vast majority. And don't worry about the fate of Wikipedia :). The powers seem to want it to remain what it is.--Wiglaf 21:55, 18 August 2005 (UTC)

I've been enjoying the Balkan wars since the 90s. All those silly people recapitulating history, and deciding it is better to be politically correct than rich. Silly people indeed.

Cucuteni culture seems to be Slavic peoples behaving badly.

Idea

Eastern Europe has a long way to go when it concerns history and NPOV, just look at Rus' (people). Concerning your idea, you should ask Dab, as he has more experience than I have in dealing with Indian nationalists, but it sure sounds like a fun idea.--Wiglaf 22:31, 21 August 2005 (UTC)

June with its 18 hours of daylight is gone now :). It may sound fun to provoke the trolls, but when you have edited at Wikipedia for two years, the charm of conflicts is wearing off.--Wiglaf 12:15, 22 August 2005 (UTC)

Corded Ware

Yes, it is 3000 battle axes. You have done good work, but the best way to proceed to fac is through Wikipedia:Peer review.--Wiglaf 07:06, 24 August 2005 (UTC)

Itard

Hi Fourthave, I am sorry it has taken me so long to respond (I was in Denmark for a few days). According to the log, Itard was deleted for being a substub containing only the name.--Wiglaf 12:59, 28 August 2005 (UTC)

Thanks

Thanks for the kind words. I was able to tweak the C-F article a bit more. I figured out the messy OCR bit had to be idiomes vulgaires in the title of his published work. FeanorStar7

Scandinavian Mountains

Hi Fourthave, I think you have inadvertently created a double article. It is better that you merge the content with the old one.--Wiglaf 18:15, 29 August 2005 (UTC)

I think I am doing the northern range, and not the entire bit. I'm thinking about it and doing research. Please, some Swedish input.

Fall Webworm

Thanks for the article, really good! I've put a taxobox in and removed the Lepidoptera family template (which is usually only used on family pages) and cleaned up a little. If you've any questions, let me know Richard Barlow 08:19, 31 August 2005 (UTC)

Hi. The "sod webworms" belong to Crambidae and the term is mentioned briefly in that article. The term seems to be used as a catch-all for any crambid moth that causes some damage, not just Crambus spp as mentioned in the article (you have mentioned two other genera yourself). If you've got any further info it might be best to merge it into this article. Richard Barlow 09:24, 2 September 2005 (UTC)

Hi. All the species you have listed in your draft belong to Crambidae so the term does not seem to cross family borders. You seem to have enough here to warrant a separate article so my advice is go for it making sure you link to Crambidae and vice versa. One point: pupae tend not to move at all! A better phrase may be "The larvae move down into the soil to pupate". Good luck. Richard Barlow 11:27, 5 September 2005 (UTC)

Peñiscola

I think it was good that you changed the name by adding a tilde. There's no point in making the ambiguity too obvious :).--Wiglaf 09:41, 2 September 2005 (UTC)

Hey

Just wanted to say you do an excellent job on the 1911EB stuff. I think at some point a lot of the articles are goning to need some review. I have been putting stuff on Page 16 that is missing or corrupted, and I may start adding a lot more cause a lot of these articles (as you said at comments to Page 15) are really corrupt or obsolete, but deserve articles. I'm also a categorizing fanatic, which is why I wanted to put a category on page 15. It helps me a lot to focus, and like with the taxonomy terms, I can go to places like the Wiki:Tree of Life and invite ppl to look at the terms and offer suggestions. Take a look at page 16 taxonomy terms, ppl have been coming in to make comments. It really helps to get more eyes looking at stuff. Someone may only want to work on Geography or biographies or stuff like that. I might just move the botany/science stuff to page 15. Anyway, I'm not trying to leave anything out, I'm just trying to help focus on things using space that's there for the taking.

Wonderful work on the Towns in Germany and other stuff! You can make interwiki links more easily by using this format: de:Friedrich Nietzsche. A lot more compact. Anyway, thanks for listening to my rant. --DanielCD 12:35, 6 October 2005 (UTC)

Thanks for sorting out the Thomas Jermyn's. I'm going to give some thought about how we might list the towns and geo stuff on that page (14). --DanielCD 15:43, 13 November 2005 (UTC)

Samara & Dates

Hello Mark. It seems I left my last message on the wrong page again. Sorry. It takes a while to learn the ropes. On the dates of the Samara, I just wanted to say how important all such dates are and what a state of flux they are in. Usually we see C-14 dates, but without calibration they aren't too accurate. This is a very confusing situation on the Internet. People may not say, this is calibrated or not. Then there are always conventional dates or dates derived from other methods. So you are likely to see almost any dates. But, the best kind are calibrated C-14 dates. One gets a scatter and then estimates the time period, or takes another's time period. I thought the section on Radiocarbon dating covered it reasonably well. So research on the dates is always a prerequisite. Otherwise you get all kinds of nonsense. V Gordon Childe is a case in point. He was a great lion. Then C-14 dating came in and invalidated much of his work. He jumped over a cliff, I believe, but there may have been other reasons. What I like about the Internet is, it often has the latest dates, but you have to be careful to keep your parachute handy. Best wishes, looking forward to your future critiques.Dave 13:37, 17 November 2005 (UTC)

Edit summaries

Mark, I see you are making a lot of edits that seem to be well received judging from the comments here. However, I like to comment on your edit summaries, if I may? Editors rely on the edit summaries in an article history to quickly get a sense of the interaction. If these are missing, it is more time consuming to understand the article history. Moreover, good edit summaries are thought to be an important quality for an administrator, if you are interested in that.

Other editors may filter out minor edits to reduce clutter when viewing the article history. Since you are marking most of your edits minor, they may not even see your edits. May I ask if you are using the "Show preview" button? Checking your edits before you "Save page" reduces the clutter on the article history and user contribution pages. Thank you for considering my comments and for your contributions. --Walter Siegmund (talk) 00:11, 23 November 2005 (UTC)

Beaker culture

Since you have made some edits to Beaker culture, can you comment on the verifiability of two edits, [3] [4] which are from User:Roylee and his alter egos - See User:Mark Dingemanse/Roylee. I cannot tell if these are reasonable or not. Wizzy…☎ 13:14, 1 December 2005 (UTC)

Peniscola

Why is Peñiscola now Peníscola? I can argue on historical linguistics grounds. --FourthAve 06:39, 6 November 2005 (UTC)

Hi! Because when there is no traditional name in English, it should use the official local endonym. And according to this criteria, altough it exists the name "Peñiscola" in Spanish, the local Town Hall have decided since several years ago that his official toponym is in Valencian, it means as "Peniscola". --Joanot Martorell ✉ 23:16, 18 December 2005 (UTC)

Bob Vander Plaats

Stop with the personal attacks. You think because I tolerated it once on my talk page I'm going to put up with it all the time. You are wrong. Reyk 06:48, 9 January 2006 (UTC)

It's a trend with this guy. Unsigned malicious edits. Jaysus Chris 02:47, 13 January 2006 (UTC)

Please stop referring to other editors as vandals, and reverting edits made in good faith, without discussing them. I would rather not have to go through WP:DR, it's kind of scary ^_^ Seriously, this is uncalled-for. Tenebrous 11:43, 20 February 2006 (UTC)

Duncehead

You are the one who screwed up "Democrat" and "Democratic". Not anyone else. See here. Nice work. Do you have anger issues or something? - Jaysus Chris 06:10, 19 February 2006 (UTC)

No Personal Attacks, 1st warning

Please see Wikipedia's no personal attacks policy: There is no excuse for personal attacks on other contributors. Do not make them. Comment on content, not on the contributor; personal attacks damage the community and deter users. Note that you may be blocked for disruption. Please stay cool and keep this in mind while editing. Thanks, Jaysus Chris 23:13, 21 February 2006 (UTC)

See here for details.

Also: Remember to mark your edits as minor only when they genuinely are (see Wikipedia:Minor edit). "The rule of thumb is that an edit of a page that is spelling corrections, formatting, and minor rearranging of text should be flagged as a 'minor edit'."

No Personal Attacks, 2nd Warning

Please do not make personal attacks on other people. Wikipedia has a policy against personal attacks. In some cases, users who engage in personal attacks may be blocked from editing by admins or banned by the arbitration committee. Comment on content, not on other contributors or people. Please resolve disputes appropriately. Thank you. - Jaysus Chris 18:54, 26 February 2006 (UTC)

See comments left on my talk page. There's no excuse for them. Please review WP:NPA. - Jaysus Chris 18:54, 26 February 2006 (UTC)

No Personal Attacks, 3nd Warning

This is your last warning. If you continue to make personal attacks, you may be blocked for disruption.

I have regretfully decided after much soul searching that this action is needed. You have ignored others requests not to engage in personal attacks, and have just engaged in further personal attacks on my user talk page. Please review the No Personal Attacks page. Please refrain from these attacks.

JesseG 05:30, 1 March 2006 (UTC)

Obscenity

Warning: Please do not add obscenities to Wikipedia. Injecting unnecessary swear words, racially or sexually abusive comments, or provocative pictures to articles or user pages offends many people. Wikipedia treats such actions as vandalism and blocks people from editing for such repeated vandalism. See this edit for details. - Jaysus Chris 06:21, 3 March 2006 (UTC)

Request for Comment: FourthAve

As a result of all of the problems leading up to this, I have initated an RfC on this user's conduct. - Jaysus Chris 09:45, 3 March 2006 (UTC)

I request an Admin to inspect his sock-puppetry. We can also go into his sexual perversions too.--FourthAve 09:50, 3 March 2006 (UTC)

No Personal Attacks, 4th Warning

You have been temporarily blocked from editing for disrupting Wikipedia by making personal attacks. If you wish to make useful contributions, you are welcome to come back after the block expires.

There is no doubt in my mind that FourthAve intends to continue making personal attacks, and that he will not stop regardless of what I or anyone else says to him. I wish it had not had to come to this - but I see no other way to halt his behavior then to go to formal channels.
JesseG 20:47, 4 March 2006 (UTC)

Vandalism

This edit falls far below the level of encyclopedic tone that we demand at Wikipedia.

To be precise, you do the following:

• Insert the word "corruptly" into a sentence resulting in "His only serious primary challenger, Bob Vander Plaats, corruptly withdrew from the race to endorse Nussle and become his running mate."
• Add the following sentence: "Basically, he agreed to not denounce the current Nussle marriage as adulterous, and agreed to agree that adultery is is a good thing by Jesus."

The tone of this is unmistakable malicious. From this and other edits to the same [5] and other articles [6], and particularly your edits on the talk page of the Jim Nussle article it is easy to deduce that you have conceived the purpose of abusing Wikipedia in order to malign people whom you do not like. Because of its relentlessness and unreasonableness, this is vandalism.

That will not be tolerated.

I'm asking you now to cease this immediately. You will be blocked if you continue. --Tony Sidaway 06:35, 9 March 2006 (UTC)

You ask why. I've told you why. You're abusing Wikipedia to write unreasonable, unencyclopedic, attacks on people you don't like. You're alleging serious misconduct and you're bring Wikipedia into disrepute. It's time to stop this. There are plenty of other articles to edit, which you don't feel so strongly about, and which you won't destroy with your malicious accusations. I'm asking you to go and edit those other articles. --Tony Sidaway 07:49, 9 March 2006 (UTC)

Tony

It can be difficult to interact with others here, but please try to be more civil. Thanks. ... aa:talk 07:59, 9 March 2006 (UTC)

2000+ edits

I did the EB 2011 edits, many many times. You Repubican whores pretend.--FourthAve 08:11, 9 March 2006 (UTC)

Jolly good. Why do you believe that everybody who disagrees with you is a Republican? --Tony Sidaway 08:14, 9 March 2006 (UTC)

University of Dubuque

For this edit to the above-named article, after warnings, you have been blocked for one hour. Repeat prescriptions are available if needed, and the dose will be increased if you don't respond. Your good edits are welcome, but your attacks and vandalism are not. --Tony Sidaway 08:24, 9 March 2006 (UTC)

Deep depravity

I denounce you. See Dbachmann and Wiglaf. You are a whore, a depraved right wing nutcase, a charcteristic born-again pre- millianiarian dispensationalist nut case. You eat shit.

Okay, suppose I am all of the above. Thanks for at least not vandalizing the articles today. --Tony Sidaway 00:44, 10 March 2006 (UTC)

Blanking

Was your partial blanking of User talk:Tony Sidaway intentional, or an accident? [7]. --MONGO 12:23, 9 March 2006 (UTC)

Okay, behave yourself...I think everyone (especially Tony Sidaway) is being extremely tolerant right now. I don't know a thing about your edit history, so I was just asking why you blanked that talk page. Looks like you've been around awhile, so no reason to go off at this stage in the game. Good luck.--MONGO 03:33, 10 March 2006 (UTC)

I know nothing about the situation you are involved in, and frankly my plate is fairly full at the moment. However, I see you as the one calling another editor a "vandal", a "troll" and a "piece of shit"[8]...so until you can show me proof that this type of ugliness has been directed towards you, it would be hard for me as an outsider to the situation to see what your justification is for tossing these kind of insults at other editors.--MONGO 10:48, 10 March 2006 (UTC)

Fine...edit counts do not a Wikipedian make. I admire contributions to article space, but not if others have to come under your wrath of insults. Do away with that and all will be fine I suppose...but calling the editor a "bitch" is not what I would refer to as harmonious. No one is going to look at your edits as being worthwhile if you insult them.--MONGO 11:16, 10 March 2006 (UTC)

Three hour block

For this edit, and your abuse of the talk page of the same article, you are blocked for three hours. --Tony Sidaway 13:40, 10 March 2006 (UTC)

Notice of Request for Arbitration

Due to the continued, wilfull violation of WP:NPA and WP:NPOV by FourthAve, I have asked the Arbitration Committee to investigate his actions. I have listed you as an involved party because you are the accused party. The RFA can be found here. Please leave a statement if you are so inclined. - Jaysus Chris 11:30, 13 March 2006 (UTC)

Another block

I blocked you for another 24 hours because of continued vandalism on a couple of articles. Please consider avoiding any articles having to do with Iowa politics; you seem to be unable to add encyclopedic information to them and only add unencyclopedic scandal-mongering. --Tony Sidaway 14:33, 13 March 2006 (UTC)

This is your last warning. If you continue to make personal attacks, you may be blocked for disruption. --Nlu (talk) 07:21, 15 March 2006 (UTC)

Could you hold off to enable him to respond to the arbitration request, please? --Tony Sidaway 07:30, 15 March 2006 (UTC)

Who is Nlu? We got whack job right wing Republicans quoting my Democratically just obcenities. It's the Jim Nussle article, and also my alma mater's University of Dubuque article. Gee. This is turning into a "why the Ten Commandments err" article. This is clearly an article under the control of the whack-jobs working for Nussle. --FourthAve 07:38, 15 March 2006 (UTC)