Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Biography

Viktor Berthold

This was in Viktor Berthold, but is actually about Marcel Bertholds: He was born in Riga to a Livonian family. Before the outbreak of World War II he moved to Argentina, where he studied at the University of Buenos Aires to become a doctor. He graduated and moved to the United States where he worked as a doctor and scientist. After that, he moved to Sweden and eventually to Switzerland where he died in the city of Lugano.

Berthold was active in Livonian cultural organizations, and visited Latvia multiple times before his death.

Also Viktor Berthold was not the last speaker of Livonian, there is one still living in Canada: articles about her in Latvian, Finnish and Estonian.

Santiago de Liniers

Complements and correction have been done on the English version of article about Santiago de Liniers. Identity, his name is Jacques de Liniers not Jacques Marie Antoin who is his brother. A lot of addition come either from the French version of the article which is more completed and sourced by the website http://jacques-de-liniers.wifeo.com/ which assembles many historical elements.

Mistake in the biography of Salomon Dykman

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Salomon_Dykman

"Dykman was born in 1917 in Warsaw, Poland. He attended school at the "Hinuch" Hebrew Gymnasium, and then studied the classics at the Institute of Jewish Studies at Warsaw University."

the Institute of Classic at Warsaw University has never been a part of Institute of Jewish Studies (which, most probably, didn't even exist before the war). Please, correct it.

Elisha Gray

Could an editor please look at my comments on the Elisha Gray discussion page ? I posted there first as requested, but since the last post by anyone was June 2009 it seems unlikely the my issues would be addressed anytime soon.Jonel469 (talk) 21:52, 14 July 2011 (UTC)

Your comments on that page were incorrectly formatted, which made them practically unreadable (they should not be indented). I've fixed them. Hohenloh ⁺ 09:17, 15 July 2011 (UTC)

Religion as a Category

Is there a current guideline as to whether the religion of an individual should be included as a category on their article page? I thought I saw this type of category removed previously, but I can't remember what the rationale was. Thanks! Doniago (talk) 13:10, 15 July 2011 (UTC)

The policy for use of religion in categories is WP:BLPCAT. WP:EGRS has additional information as well. --Jezebel'sPonyo^{bons mots} 14:40, 15 July 2011 (UTC)

Thank you! Doniago (talk) 14:58, 15 July 2011 (UTC)

Selena discussion

Please join in the discussion on the talk page to help expand the article to its fullest potential. AJona1992 (talk) 19:46, 16 July 2011 (UTC)

JoAnn E. Manson like resume?

I have the urge to place a {{likeresume}} warning template at the top of this article but I would like another opinion first. The article is written well and references are provided but after reading it twice it seems like a resume. If she created a cure for hepatitis, invented Tylenol, or broke barriers like Sara Josephine Baker "...the first woman to be a professional representative to the League of Nations when she represented the United States in the Health Committee" then I could see why she would be unique. However, the article presents her as simply a good doctor from Cleveland who now works in Boston. It's normal for doctors to write books and do research so to me she's doesn't seem any different than any other doctor who has written books and done research... except she has an article on Wikipedia showcasing all the books and research she's done... and awards she's received. Please advise. //Gbern3 (talk) 09:03, 20 July 2011 (UTC)

• She's in the top 1% of cited medical researchers, that's not "simply a good doctor from Cleveland". I've checked the article and tweaked a few things, but I don't see anything wrong with it and don't see the need for any tags. --Crusio (talk) 09:19, 20 July 2011 (UTC)

Reversion of article name change request

You are invited to join the discussion at Talk:Adrián González#Requested move. RightCowLeftCoast (talk) 18:54, 20 July 2011 (UTC)Template:Z48

Bands

I think I may regret bring this topic up as I see it has been discussed a number of times. Should articles on musical bands be be tagged with WPBiography? Is there a definite policy statement somewhere on this?--Traveler100 (talk) 04:13, 21 July 2011 (UTC)

It's not a matter of policy. If the people in this WikiProject want to also deal with bands, they can do it. There are some pros and some cons. that's true. The main reason it was chosen by the WikiProject to be like that is that articles about bands contain large biography sections and/or can't be distinguished by biographies. I think you could address to the Musicians task group and see if there is the will to split the task in two parts. -- Magioladitis (talk) 05:53, 21 July 2011 (UTC)

Asking for a FAR of the article Sharon Tate

I believe it no longer meets FA status and have nominated it for FAR. Per wiki rules, I am notifying all of the article's involved wiki projects. Crystal Clear x3 03:30, 22 July 2011 (UTC)

Proposed deletion of Billie Mintz

Self promotional page; highly questionable notability. Unsupported claims to be 'award-winning'. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Underthevolcano2 (talk • contribs) 04:11, 24 July 2011 (UTC)

Addition of postnominals to infoboxes

An editor is adding Postnominals (MBE, OBE, etc) to the short form name on infoboxes. I have reverted one and another editor has done the same on Jenson Button on the grounds that consensus is to keep them to the main article text. I have also left a note on the editor's talk page as I feel his work will be reverted. Anyone know if this consensus exists and if so where it is recorded? Britmax (talk) 16:24, 24 July 2011 (UTC)

• See WP:CREDENTIAL and sections below that. --Crusio (talk) 16:47, 24 July 2011 (UTC)

Peer review of Xiaxue

Members of WikiProject Blogging, I humbly present to you an article about Xiaxue, a highly successful, but also highly controversial, Singaporean celebrity blogger! I hope you enjoy reading it as much as I enjoyed writing it. If so, could you please comment at the ongoing peer review of the article, to support its quest to become my seventh GA? Since she is controversial, I am particularly concerned about BLP issues. Thank you in advance for any and all constructive reviews! --J.L.W.S. The Special One (talk) 13:09, 26 July 2011 (UTC)

Information missing

I was just wondering why lajon Witherspoon bio doesn't include that he has half brothers and sister in Nashville from he dad's side. His real daddy not witherspoon ?? Even if his real dad is dead. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.228.195.215 (talk) 22:11, 28 July 2011 (UTC)

Origen of Col. 'Michael' Kovats name...correctly Kovacs, but often changed to Kovats, Kovatch, Kwak, Kovac, Kovach

...correctly Kovacs, but often changed to Kovats, Kovatch, Kwak, Kovac, Kovach translates to metal worker/smith, blacksmith,forger of metal/iron. Origens of family of metal working craftsmen that vary socially from simple ancient extracters of iron ore to advanced works and weapons manufacturers, swords, guns, artfull gates... piano wire, music wire/cymbalom,violin wire... tradesmen with better than average income and enterprenrurs during wartime Col. Mihaly deKovats family tree not clearly studied and birthplace not his families actual origens of magyars. More information needed. Possible DNA studies if burial site possible and descendents in New Jersey may have artifacts and DNA mapping desireable. I believe that his monument/statue(?) stolen according to legend and this article mention motto and the Citadel. John Cornel Kovach,M.T., Tempe, AZ, USA CONTINUE FEEDBACK !!! kovachmagyar@yahoo.com — Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.177.207.222 (talk) 09:30, 30 July 2011 (UTC)

Copyright concerns related to your project

This notice is to advise interested editors that a Contributor copyright investigation has been opened which may impact this project. Such investigations are launched when contributors have been found to have placed copyrighted content on Wikipedia on multiple occasions. It may result in the deletion of images or text and possibly articles in accordance with Wikipedia:Copyright violations. The specific investigation which may impact this project is located here.

All contributors with no history of copyright problems are welcome to contribute to CCI clean up. There are instructions for participating on that page. Additional information may be requested from the user who placed this notice, at the process board talkpage, or from an active CCI clerk. Thank you. Moonriddengirl ^(talk) 20:41, 31 July 2011 (UTC)

Murder of Julia Martha Thomas featured article nomination

Murder of Julia Martha Thomas, about a notorious murder in London in 1879, is currently going through a review for featured article status (see Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/Murder of Julia Martha Thomas/archive1). The article is covered by this WikiProject; if editors are interested, please feel free to leave comments on the featured article candidates talk page. Prioryman (talk) 13:58, 1 August 2011 (UTC)

Pete Snyder

I proposed changes to this article on its Talk page. Since the subject of the article is the CEO of my current employer, I wish to stay closely in line with WP:COI. Looking to best uphold this guideline, would one of the Wikiproject Biography community members be willing to review and assess the changes that have been suggested here? Cheers, Jeff Bedford (talk) 17:32, 1 August 2011 (UTC)

Questioning sources for BLP

There is an ongoing discussion about whether certain sources are sufficiently reliable for certain statements made about Talk:John Favalora. Student7 (talk) 15:23, 2 August 2011 (UTC)

Good article review of Tim Pawlenty

I have done a good article review of Governor Tim Pawlenty and am informing wikiprojects associated with the article so that improvements can be made to the article. Ryan Vesey Review me! 23:29, 3 August 2011 (UTC)

Album perhaps missing from the discography

The first Lightning Hopkins album I ever heard was Blues for John Glenn. My Dad bought that album shortly after we moved to Houston. The title track was about John Glenn the astronaut...very fitting since Johnson Space Center is in Houston. I do know that at the time that my Dad bought the record that Hopkins was still alive because I remember seeing him twice on Austin City Limits in the proceeding years. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.11.28.147 (talk) 05:40, 4 August 2011 (UTC)

Christian Kane

My birthday is June 27 1966.Christian Kane is also a Cancer with same day.I am hoping to send a message to Christian to say I am an admirer. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.104.111.179 (talk) 08:03, 4 August 2011 (UTC)

Lawrence Samuel Durrell

Notable only as the father of his famous sons? Does this pass WP:GNG? What do you think? S.G.^(GH) _ping! 14:56, 4 August 2011 (UTC)

Carlos Morales Troncoso

The article includes the complete transcription of one of his speeches. I believe that should be excluded from the article as it is irrelevant. Full Moon (talk) 02:50, 5 August 2011 (UTC)

I would like to follow up on this article after the PRSC primaries later this year. It is probable that he will be nominated as the party's candidate for President. Full Moon (talk) 02:50, 5 August 2011 (UTC)

"Medal bar" in biographical articles

Hi there is a discussion at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Military history#"Medal bar" in biographical articles that may interest some in this project.Jim Sweeney (talk) 10:10, 8 August 2011 (UTC)

University of Maryland institution staffer wants to participate in Wikipedia

I spotted new User:UMDSpecColl making spam-like edits to Maryland related articles so I welcomed the user and linked the spam page. The user seems to be interested in participating in a larger way so I thought I'd bring this discussion to members' attention. This could be an opportunity to work with a state library special collection in a very positive way for both the pedia and the collection. BusterD (talk) 21:35, 12 August 2011 (UTC)

To contact Dr. Aaidh ibn Abdullah al-Qarni

Goday

How can I write to Dr. Aaidh ibn Abdullah al-Qarni I have searched on Google pages to find an email address to contact him but in vain

Thanks for your help.

Sincerely,
Rahim Olsen  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 90.184.204.39 (talk) 15:14, 13 August 2011 (UTC) 

Matt McCoy corrections to the biography

There are some factual errors to Matt McCoy's biography.

1. Matt is the 2nd child of divorced Parents Mark McCoy and Tammy (Venezia)Grant 2. Siblings Jeff - 6/28/80, Sean - 7/14/88 and Devin 7/14/88 3. Devin McCoy passed on 10/14/88

Mark McCoy — Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.130.191.65 (talk) 19:27, 13 August 2011 (UTC)

Matt McCoy corrections to the biography

There are some factual errors to Matt McCoy's biography.

1. Matt is the 2nd child of divorced Parents Mark McCoy and Tammy (Venezia)Grant 2. Siblings Jeff - 6/28/80, Sean - 7/14/88 and Devin 7/14/88 3. Devin McCoy passed on 10/14/88

Mark McCoy 72.130.191.65 (talk) 19:28, 13 August 2011 (UTC)

Discussion at Talk:Heroine of Hackney#Biographical information

You are invited to join the discussion at Talk:Heroine of Hackney#Biographical information. Trevj (talk) 11:03, 15 August 2011 (UTC)Template:Z48

RFC on identifiers

There is an RFC on the addition of identifier links to citations by bots. Please comment. Headbomb {talk / contribs / physics / books} 16:05, 15 August 2011 (UTC)

Adding Spouse field to Infobox for musical artists

There has been request to add a "spouse" field to {{Infobox musical artist}}. Interested editors are invited to voice their opinions at Template talk:Infobox musical artist#Should Template:Infobox musical artist include a "spouse" field?. Worm^TT · (talk) 11:38, 16 August 2011 (UTC)

Paint it grey

Who decided the default link to Keith Black should go to a neurosurgeon & not the engine builder? I never heard of this doctor before today, & I wager a lot of rodders & customizers still haven't. (I know there's a hatnote...) TREKphiler ^{any time you're ready, Uhura} 21:40, 19 August 2011 (UTC)

Esteban Lucas Bridges

Dear Sir,

I have not signed up on your fine site yet but will later today to join some discussions. I would just like to point out that the write-up of Esteban Lucas Bridges has a minor error at the end. He did not settle a ranch in South Africa, but rather one in South West Africa and two in Rhodesia, one of which was Devuli, the most well known. Devuli was the largest privately owned ranch in the world at one satge, measuring a million acres. Just thought you'd like to know this. I know these things becasue Lucas Bridges was my great great uncle. I will sign up and help edit in due course.

Many thanks, David Hulme — Preceding unsigned comment added by 196.37.236.234 (talk) 10:34, 20 August 2011 (UTC)

Aaron ben Meïr

Aaron ben Meïr was a Palestinian Gaon. Is it in order to create a category for such people called: Category:Palestinian Geonim, as a sub-cat of Category:Geonim? Chesdovi (talk) 10:14, 22 August 2011 (UTC)

Sort of. I think if you are going to do that, it might be worth creating three sub-categories for Babylonian Geonim, Palastinian Geonim, and Egyptian Geonim (assuming those are the major subdivisions, and the naming is appropriate), and then taking to trouble to allocate the members of Category:Geonim into appropriate subcategories. Clearly Aaron will be a bit lonely if he is the only occupant of the subcat. --Tagishsimon (talk) 11:05, 22 August 2011 (UTC)

Thanks. They are major subdivisions, and the naming is appropriate and is supported by RS. Can a few more editors please add the views on this matter, just so I am sure we will not encounter any issues in future. Chesdovi (talk) 12:04, 22 August 2011 (UTC)

Biographies and Women's History project

Earlier this year, WikiProject Women's History was established. In an initial burst of enthusiasm, some editors began bannering the biographies of every woman to be found on WP. Because we are a fairly small group, most members felt that this was not an effective way for us to organize our work. (And we got complaints about spamming.) We now have specific criteria for inclusion, and most BLPs are not within the scope of the project, which focuses on history, not contemporary culture. Because hundreds if not thousands of articles were bannered, we are still in the process of weeding out. If you'd like to help with removing banners, or if you doubt that a Women's History banner belongs on a particular article, please see Wikipedia:WikiProject Women's History#Scope. Detailed criteria are provided under the heading "Biographies." Cynwolfe (talk) 15:52, 23 August 2011 (UTC)

Proposed merger and page move

There is a proposal to merge Fred West and Rosemary West into a single article entitled Fred and Rosemary West. --Ohconfucius ^¡digame! 03:25, 26 August 2011 (UTC)

Living parameter on band articles?

I patrol Category:Biography articles without living parameter and try to keep it empty, but I've noticed a lot of band articles added all at once. What is the general consensus on filling the living parameter on band articles? Are they generally living=yes? What if one or more members of the band are dead, or the band isn't together anymore? A lot of new band articles don't specify if the band members are alive or dead (specifically in the case of old bands that no longer exist). Before simply guessing on what to do, I thought I'd check here and ask. - SudoGhost 15:39, 26 August 2011 (UTC)

TBH, I don't see how you apply the parameter to a group to begin with. "Defunct", maybe, for groups long broken up; otherwise, is it "living" til they're all dead? "Living" if any original members are still in it? If any are alive? If their records still get airplay? :/ TREKphiler ^{any time you're ready, Uhura} 04:31, 27 August 2011 (UTC)

That's what I'm unsure of. I have no idea what to put in that parameter for bands. I'm of the opinion that bands are not living people, and don't need that parameter, but apparently the consensus is against me on that. - SudoGhost 04:52, 27 August 2011 (UTC)

We add |living=yes if at least one member of the group is still alive. This is because the article discusses living persons and we have to protect them. -- Magioladitis (talk) 07:37, 27 August 2011 (UTC)

Peer Reviews

On several articles on the WikiProject Biography, I have said "yes" to a "Peer Review". While not trying to start a fight or edit war, would like these articles to be either "Peer Reviewed" or "Assessed". It would be appreciated greatly and would have less backlog articles unassessed on the WikiProject Biographies. Adamdaley (talk) 02:55, 27 August 2011 (UTC)

Can a band include both Reg Dwight and Elton John?

Elton John was originally named Reginald Dwight, but the Long John Baldry article in Wikipedia seems to list them as two differenet members of Bluesology. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 85.64.145.176 (talk) 14:51, 27 August 2011 (UTC)

I think you need to reread the sentence; it is in essence seeking to set out how RD adoped the EJ name. THe sentence is "After Steampacket broke up in 1966, Baldry formed Bluesology featuring Reg Dwight on keyboards and Elton Dean, later of Soft Machine, as well as Caleb Quaye on guitar. Dwight adopted the name Elton John, his first name from Dean and his surname from Baldry.[4]". So the assertion you imply is not being made. --Tagishsimon (talk) 22:18, 27 August 2011 (UTC)

Biographical lead sections

Following some recent discussions, I recently started a discussion on the lead sections in biographical articles to try and unify those aspects of the discussion, rather than have the discussions spread all over the place. Please see Wikipedia talk:Manual of Style (biographies)#Style of lead sections and comment there. Thanks. Carcharoth (talk) 16:05, 29 August 2011 (UTC)