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Hey Chris. We still need at least two reports at AIV for you to move on to the next level. Thanks! :) Mediran (t • c) 00:57, 28 April 2013 (UTC)

Sorry to have kept you waiting. I've been busy with schoolwork. I'll try find those two AIV reports by Monday. Chris Troutman (talk) 02:44, 28 April 2013 (UTC)

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Re:Sarnak

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I saw your note, thanks. Two things, I saw your invite to the Teahouse, the teahouse is designed for new arrivals to Wikipedia, and I'm not new at all. (But I appreciate the invite). Second (I've noted this on Sarnak 's page, you tagged it as having no references, when in fact there are. The character Sarnak doesn't have a lot of cite available, so I made the decision (admittely IAR ) to list them as external links, otherwise, I would have had a duplication of cites linking back to the same external links. So yes, the sources are there. As such I removed the tag you placed on the article. I'll only touch it one time.

As to Sarnak's notability, you have a point, he was mentioned in 2 issues of Werewolf by Night so if consensus states he's not notable, the article goes. I'll point out that "Werewolf by night" was also a limited run, so merely having a limited run is not enough to declare a subject not notable. (Don't worry, I'm not arguing to keep the article, if you decide to have a discussion about it's notability, I'll abstain from voting or commenting on it at all :)

Thanks again  KoshVorlon. We are all Kosh ...  11:13, 3 May 2013 (UTC)

KoshVorlon, I apologize for the inferred slight. I used Page Curation to tag the page and I wasn't aware a link to the Teahouse would be included. Had I known, I wouldn't have used that method.

I identify as an Eventualist, so I'm fine keeping the article, I've just noticed that sometimes I'll tag an article for sources or cleanup and another editor will notice and simply nominate for deletion, which isn't my goal. Stan Lee probably created hundreds of characters like Sarnak for just a couple issues and honestly, I don't know that the notability guidance covers these situations. I just thought I would mention notability before someone else did. I think my only suggestion would be to convert those external links into in-line citations so you can meet the letter of the law (or policy as the case may be). Chris Troutman (talk) 14:07, 3 May 2013 (UTC)

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Hi Chris: Thanks for the offer to visit my class, but I think for this quarter it's too late. I have several volunteer Wikipedians helping out. Also, students are claiming topics on my Talk page (which you thought was vandalism--thanks for keeping an eye you for me!). It turns out this is the most effective way of claiming topics that have no existing WP page. Students will begin creating pages shortly. Toby Higbie (talk) 17:50, 15 May 2013 (UTC)

Yeah, sorry about that reversion. I haven't seen someone utilize their user page that way. I'd be glad to support you in future semesters. Chris Troutman (talk) 18:11, 15 May 2013 (UTC)

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Since you emailed me today Chris, I wanted to copy you my plea for resolution compromise to Bbb23:

Bbb23 your revision and blockage is wrong and unjustifiable here with all due respect. I have provided in my "plain and simple" revision the other night (at your specific instructions and request of me as a legitimate Wiki user) twenty-five "verifiable or even reliable" third-party sourcing not just ten as you are forcing here. "It's not that I doubt you," but "Wikipedia has rules that material must be sourced to something authoritative [c.f., university articles, broadcast media, newspaper and magazine publications, media outlets] that someone else can check", which I have provided in all 25 references that you have blocked Bbb23. "If you have access to a library with newspapers [which I do] that go back that far [which it does], ... that could work." Sometimes ones own words Bbb23 can be quite persuasive! Are your own words Bbb23 persuasive here for you please? Let's find a path to compromise here Bbb23 please please please. I am an honest man. I am not interested in misrepresenting anything or anyone here. I am an accurate man. It's my vocation. I am a legitimate Wiki user respecting the "Wiki park" and you Editor Bbb23. Aren't your own words Bbb23 persuasive here for you please? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Olivermcgee (talk • contribs) 06:40, 22 May 2013 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Olivermcgee (talk • contribs)

I did not ask to have my name placed on BLP Noticeboard, please remove my name from this please Chris please. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Olivermcgee (talk • contribs) 07:41, 22 May 2013 (UTC)

Please understand that I contacted you only to ensure that you weren't being misrepresented on the wiki. I am not interested in advocating for you. Your efforts to edit the Oliver McGee article have made the situation worse.

Having the Oliver McGee article on the noticeboard only indicates that the article needs work and it does not harm your personal reputation.

Wikipedia is not here to serve your public relations needs. The way you want that article to read is simply not possible. Please DO NOT contact me in the future. Chris Troutman (talk) 03:32, 24 May 2013 (UTC)

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Thanks! Chris Troutman (talk) 03:32, 24 May 2013 (UTC)

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Hi. If you wish to comment about an article, please do so on its talk page which is there for that purpose. There is no need to create separate 'Comment' pages. Thanks. Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 09:36, 26 May 2013 (UTC)

But Template:WPBS has code calling for article assessments on the subpage, which is the only reason I created it. I'd simply like to know what the community consensus is. Chris Troutman (talk) 16:32, 26 May 2013 (UTC)

The Template:WikiProjectBannerShell goes only on the article talk page, just like the project banner. The banner shell is designed to neatly collapse banners from multiple projects (the people or patrollers who place the assessment banners). Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 17:54, 26 May 2013 (UTC)

I know. I've been going through unassessed articles in WikiProject History; Robert the Devil was one of them. I added WPBS to the talk page. WPBS has code in it that specifies if there's a "Comments" subpage, it displays a "This article has an assessment summary page" link. I've seen it used on other talk pages, which is why I added my assessment into a subpage rather than directly on the talk page with Template:To do. I try to make every edit a good one so if my edits are going to be reverted I'd like to get an explanation on community policy. Chris Troutman (talk) 18:04, 26 May 2013 (UTC)

The assessment summary is something quite different and it's very rarely used. For all intents and purposes, the article talk page is for all the comments, suggestions, and discussions. Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 18:31, 26 May 2013 (UTC)

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Consulting with instructors at UCLA

Thanks for your message on my talk page! Are you going to be around this summer, by any chance? If so, that would be a good time for helping faculty/TAs to think about how to incorporate WP assignments into their syllabi, and I'd be glad to help connect you. Nafpaktitism (talk) 19:30, 27 May 2013 (UTC)

Yes, let me know when you'd like me to stop by. My schedule is open. Chris Troutman (talk) 19:34, 27 May 2013 (UTC)

Gallipoli Campaign

I think you will find that User:Anotherclown deleted Falls from the Gallipoli Campaign article as it is no longer used as a reference in this article. Can you self revert thanks.Jim Sweeney (talk) 19:27, 30 May 2013 (UTC)

Done. I have added that source to the "Further Reading" section lest it be forgotten. Chris Troutman (talk) 21:07, 30 May 2013 (UTC)

WikiProject Christianity Newsletter (June 2013)

ICHTHUS

June 2013

From the Editor

Since its formation in 2006, WikiProject Christianity has come a long way. A significant number of new articles have appeared on a wide range of topics, and the quality of some key articles has seen dramatic improvement. Yet, by the very nature of the open, crowd-sourced development environment in which we operate, as the number of pages in the project has increased at times our attention has been naturally diluted. We should of course strive for quality everywhere, but we should remember that this newsletter is called Ichthus.

Starting this month we will start a "Focus on" series, where we will try to "bring Jesus back" and focus on him. For five consecutive issues we will focus on one aspect of the study of Jesus. The goal of this series is to inform our members of what the project contains and highlight those articles which have reached quality and stability.

From this month until November we will focus on the historical Jesus, a topic which has been the subject of much discussion on article talk pages, as well as the general media. This is an important topic, and we have a good set of well referenced articles on that now. Then, starting in December we will focus on Christ, and the spiritual and theological elements that the title entails. Following that the review of the life and ministry of Jesus in the New Testament, his miracles, and parables will take place. And each month the "Bookshelf" will mention a book that fits the theme of the month.

We hope you will enjoy this journey as we present a new aspect of Jesus each month. And given that as the number of project pages increases, the ratio of those watching the pages declines, we hope that more of you will watch some of these central pages that help define this project.

Church of the month

The current building of All Saints' Church, Winthorpe in Nottinghamshire, England which was completed in 1888, is at least the third version of the church, which dates back to at least the early 13th century.

Good articles and DYKs
The article Jesus received the good article mark last month, as did Cleeve Abbey. A number of churches were featured on the main page in the DYK section in May, namely St. Lamberti, Hildesheim, Karja church, Braaby Church, St Patrick's Liverpool, Vlah Church, Freerslev Church, Cathedral of Our Lady of the Assumption, Mata-Utu, St. Michael's Cathedral (Sitka, Alaska), St. Lamberti, Hildesheim, Karja church, Braaby Church, St. Pierre Cathedral, Saint-Pierre, Mont Saint Michel Abbey, St Patrick's Church, Liverpool, Vlah Church, St Catherine of Siena Church, Cocking, Catedral Nuestra Señora de La Asunción, Roholte Church, Notre Dame Cathedral, Taiohae, Leicester Abbey, Caracas Cathedral, Caldey Abbey, King's Mead Priory, Cathedral of the Immaculate Conception (Hong Kong) andAll Saints' Church, Winthorpe, as well as the hymn What Wondrous Love Is This.

Focus on...

THE
HISTORICAL JESUS

Did Jesus exist? Did he walk the streets of Jerusalem? The Historicity of Jesus article answers these questions with a firm affirmative. Historicity does not discuss if Jesus walked on water, but if he walked at all. The issue was the subject of scholarly debate before the end of last century, but the academic debate is almost over now. As the article discusses, virtually all academic opposition to the existence of Jesus has evaporated away now and scholars see it as a concluded issue. The discussion is now just among mostly self-published non-academics.

In 2011 John Dickson tweeted that if anyone finds a professor of history who denies that Jesus lived,he would eat a page of his Bible (Matthew 1 he said). Dickson's Bible is still safe.

The article discusses the ancient sources that relate to Jesus and how they fit together to establish that he existed. The evidence for Jesus is not just based on the Christian gospels, but by inter-relating them with non-Christian sources, and the fact that they all "fit together". Moreover, the existence of Jesus is not supported just by Christian scholars and in recent years the detailed knowledge of Jewish scholars and their discoveries (e.g. Shlomo Pines' discovery of the Syriac Josephus) has proven highly beneficial. We encourage you to read and follow the article, for the existence of Jesus is central to the existence of Christianity.

From the bookshelf

Jesus Outside the New Testament: An Introduction to the Ancient Evidence by Robert Van Voorst, 2000 ISBN 0-8028-4368-9

Just a few years after its publication, Van Voorst's book has become the standard comprehensive text for the discussion of ancient sources that relate to Jesus and his historicity. This detailed yet really readable book has received wide ranging endorsements - Blomberg and Harris separately referring to it as the most comprehensive treatment of the subject.

Did you know...

A Handel manuscript

• ... that Johann Sebastian Bach wrote the initials "S. D. G.", for Soli Deo Gloria, at the beginning and end of all his church compositions to give God credit for the work, and that Handel at times did the same?

Calendar
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Manchester Square, Los Angeles

Why are you changing perfectly good citations? GeorgeLouis (talk) 03:51, 3 June 2013 (UTC)

Because I've found that Reflinks often does a better job of grabbing data from the cited URLs. The citations in this case weren't a problem, but Reflinks had added the proper citation templates. Since you've undone my use of Reflinks on that article, go ahead and undo the other edit stripping the original data out. Right now there are just empty URLs. Chris Troutman (talk) 04:00, 3 June 2013 (UTC)

I have no idea what you are talking about. There is no need to cite the date the data was gathered from the source, which anyway the dates you added were not the dates the sources were consulted. What difference does it make anyway as to when the sources were consulted? I don't get it. Seems like a real waste of your and my time. What was "improper" about the way the citations were made? I've been doing it this way with no complaint for years. Yours, GeorgeLouis (talk) 05:28, 12 June 2013 (UTC)

Inconsistency between content on Purple_Heart and Paul_Gunn

Chris,

I see your comment regarding self-published sources. My edits to http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Purple_Heart&action=edit&section=8 correct the discrepancy of the claim that 9 Purple Hearts is a distinction held by one man, yet on Paul Gunn's page he is also listed as holding 9 Purple Hearts.

However, the source referred to on Paul Gunn's page is a book written by his son -- thus it isn't technically self published.

Given that there is mention on the Purple Heart page that records have been lost, there is clearly no way to prove most claims on the number of awards. But I have read the book referenced, and have talked to a close friend of Colonel Paul Gunn, and he was an amazing war hero. I have no doubt of this claim.

In any case, it would make sense to correct one or the other, as there is a conflict between the two pages.

Ejive (talk) 22:29, 6 June 2013 (UTC)

Yes, I saw the Paul Gunn article and put two maintenance templates on it as a compromise.

WP:SPS does not only refer to posting information on your own Twitter account but it also refers to going through publishing houses like AuthorHouse that are little better than a high-end version of FedEx Office. The general (perhaps false) assumption is that if you go through a reputable publisher like Random House the non-fiction content is checked and verified, or at least not fabricated. Self-publishing does not provide that third-party verification.

When I saw your edit on Purple Heart, I looked at the other article and its reliance on that self-published material. I seriously considered nominating the Gunn article for deletion but I did some research and decided that since most of those claims could be verified I would simply mark the Gunn article for improvement. I stand by my decision to remove Gunn's self-published claim of having qualified for nine Purple Hearts.

Writing an encyclopedia is an academic task and it has to be done to standard. While it's not too hard to believe Gunn was wounded nine times in combat, what you or I might believe doesn't meet the academic standard. We must have reputable independent sources in accordance with WP:RELY. I myself just paid $60 for a self-published book for research purposes. I know I'm going to have to find independent verification.

I would suggest either the Purple Heart article remains trustworthy and we allow editors to fix the Paul Gunn article, or we could remove all the self-published content from the latter. If you like, we can take this discussion onto the relevant talk page so other editors can become aware of the dispute and we'll find consensus that way. Thank you for asking me about the edit. I hope we can come to a mutually agreeable settlement. Chris Troutman (talk) 23:23, 6 June 2013 (UTC)

Thanks for the follow-up. I wanted to make sure you hadn't missed the reference on the Paul Gunn page, and now I see you haven't. It's unfortunate the Purple Heart database has not been kept intact, for those who are on it have given so much to our country.

Thanks for your time.

Ejive (talk) 02:16, 8 June 2013 (UTC)

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• Don't be confused: people are working on endangered languages articles. I put in hours and hours and hours of work on various lists (as Ling.Nut, or some other related user name). I dunno if there are people supporting some initiative or other, but please don't knock someone else's work (WP:ENLANG) if you have no idea what you're talking about. Tks. • Serviceable†Villain 02:35, 11 June 2013 (UTC)

I'm not confused. I don't need to be knowledgeable in order to register my opinion. In fact, the less I know about something the more I feel inclined to say something about it because there's zero barrier to entry. I appreciate that you and others are involved with WP:ENLANG. My concern (as I've already expressed) is overreach. I've heard that other WMF initiatives like Wikidata, Wikivoyage, and the like haven't been well received.

To be fair, I am one of those jingoists that doesn't believe that languages have any right to exist. Different languages only exist due to historical geographic isolation of peoples and the cultural/political importance that has attached to them. You are welcome to index and study various languages if you like. If WMF caters to your desires, fine. I am not trying to protect the funding of another project at the expense of WP:ENLANG. I simply don't see the wisdom of expanding the reach of WMF in such a short timespan.

Obviously you are too personally invested to see the forest for the trees. Your efforts to troll me, User:John Broughton, and User:JRSpriggs are sad. You posted your opinion in the Signpost discussion and should have left it at that. I can only assume you haven't had enough attention. This is all the more attention you'll get from me.

By the way, be sure to announce your sock use on your userpages.Chris Troutman (talk) 03:31, 11 June 2013 (UTC)

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Refdesk RFC

Hi -- your contribution there is bizarre. SteveBaker is one of the most active contributors to the Ref desks, and certainly isn't in favor of doing away with them, so saying "per SteveBaker" makes no sense at all (unless you meant it as a joke; but if so it's a bizarre one). Regards, Looie496 (talk) 15:16, 17 June 2013 (UTC)

User:SteveBaker's example of fielding questions like "how long would it take to walk to the Sun or Mars?" indicated to me the uselessness of the Ref desk. Yes, he wasn't actually trying to make that point. I have since changed my support vote to clarify my stance. Chris Troutman (talk) 16:08, 17 June 2013 (UTC)

Cool, thanks for clarifying. Looie496 (talk) 16:22, 17 June 2013 (UTC)

I was puzzled by that too. But you shouldn't base your ideas on the uselessness or otherwise of the Ref Desk on one example. I was merely defending the need to answer such questions - not that those kinds of question are in any way typical. You should actually check out a few day's of questions on places like the math, science and language desks. I think they will change your mind. SteveBaker (talk) 18:34, 17 June 2013 (UTC)

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Thanks for the Welcome

Hi Chris, Thanks for your warm welcome. I'll come back to your friendly offer to ask questions if necessary. Since I am not a native speaker, I will mainly restrict myself to data or links, not trying to write longer chapters. Something I was surprised of, are my talk pages and watchlists really separated per language? Nillurcheier (talk) 21:03, 20 June 2013 (UTC)

Yes, each is a separate wiki, just as sister projects like Wikiversity, Wiktionary, etc. incorporate separate user pages, talk pages, and watchlists though they can all be part of a unified account. Chris Troutman (talk) 21:37, 20 June 2013 (UTC)

Stop abusing the unsourced templates

I'm adding the source and you are removing the source without reason. You are vandalizing the article with random unsourced banners. I think your right as administrator should be revoked over this abuse of reverting impulsively. 75.70.142.23 (talk) 08:09, 24 June 2013 (UTC)