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Is it standard Admin practice

…to allow, and even encourage (through absence of correction) another, presumably nonidentical User/editor/persona to reply, repeatedly, to administrative business-related queries that are directed to you, RHaworth, at this User Talk page? Or are RHaworth and Launchballer one and the same, or otherwise connected in their administrative practices here? Curious if this is standard practice that I just have missed—admins having editor-understudies handling their correspondence. Le Prof Leprof 7272 (talk) 20:19, 27 May 2014 (UTC)

Perhaps Launchballer is not in fact his understudy, but his supervisor! After all, RHaworth needs someone to whom he can defer, when someone asks to speak to someone of such rank. --Demiurge1000 (talk) 20:20, 27 May 2014 (UTC)

I have no objection to talk page stalkers answering on my behalf. If they say anything with which I disagree, I will resond appropriately.

We have a very firm rule: no legal threats. I hasten to say that I have not seen you make any actual legal threats but you have made numerous threats such as this one. These may be just as disturbing to their recipients as legal threats. You said here "blocks, and threats of blocks, are last resorts in modifying editor behaviour here, are they not?" But apparently you consider only slightly less serious threats to be perfectly OK. If you see actions which you deem inappropriate, by all means "forward them to an Admin page" (or take other action as you see fit) without any warning. But kindly cease and desist from simply issuing threats. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 10:34, 28 May 2014 (UTC)

Your 6th form protege's activities are, minimally, non-standard; more accurately, unhelpful; and likely, when discussion is raised about it more formally, against WP policy. If this overall surmise is correct, then you are abetting this dysfunctional behavior by a young editor. So, I present no defense of the statement made to him to "heed" (or any statements with which you take umbrage). Formal warnings at WP are a standard part of practice at WP, and informal cautionings all the more. (Contrary your seeming perspective to act or denigrate without warning, letting chips fall where they may.)

In this case, the only reason I haven't already "call[ed] others' attention to" his responding, as a 6th form editor to an Admins queries, since he has not heeded the call to desist, is that I view you as the primary problem, and he the simply misguided junior (in your strange relationship). If I can find a way to constructively redirect this, I will; if not, I will not sacrifice him in any vindictive effort toward you. (Even if I were disposed to such, to you alone—which I am not, as you are simply a source of wonder and amusement to me here—I would not hurt another in process.) Such personal disregard of others is, seemingly, your bailiwick. Le Prof Leprof 7272 (talk) 01:48, 2 June 2014 (UTC)

European Association for Biometrics

I believe you recently deleted an article I created for the European Association for Biometrics. I would like to have a copy of the deleted article please. Also I would urge you to reconsider deletion of this article. Articles of similar organizations are allowed on Wikipedia: for example Biometrics Institute. Please let me know should you require further information. Best wishes, Farzin — Preceding unsigned comment added by Wikifarzin (talk • contribs)

Other stuff exists is never an argument. And in any case Biometrics Institute is not a glowing example of a well referenced article. It was felt that your article was lacking in links significant coverage in reliable, independent secondary sources. Since your sandbox has not been deleted, I have restored the last state of the article to there. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 18:59, 30 May 2014 (UTC)

Looks like my school contacted Biometrics Institute to get biometrics installed there. They will not be best pleased with my take on the article.

The creator of Biometrics Institute, Izzy67, was once blocked over username concerns; she used to be Biometricsinstitute. The article has been around for almost six years and I can see nothing there that explains why it should have a Wikipedia article. In addition, sections 3 and 4 are unreferenced and smell distinctly advertish. Now being considered at AfD.--Laun chba ller 22:37, 30 May 2014 (UTC)

Your opinion?

Delete? Keep? Unblank? [1] I don't think IP's can have subpages FWIW. --NeilN ^{talk to me} 01:05, 31 May 2014 (UTC)

As it has been blanked it can be speedied under WP:G7.--Laun chba ller 09:45, 31 May 2014 (UTC)

This pages serves a very useful, and I say necessary, purpose of tying together the IP address contributions by this user - who has explicitly indicated a desire to tie IP address edits to logged-in edits. Even as a blank page, it serves a useful purpose as long as the incoming links are still there.

I have seen nothing to forbid subpages [[user talk:IP address/]]. Besides, if you are going to delete it on those grounds, you will have to delete the more extensive page which ties together my IP address edits. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 09:52, 31 May 2014 (UTC)

Bitmessage.ch

Why didn't you Talk before deleting? --David Hedlund (talk) 17:41, 31 May 2014 (UTC)

Because I and many other admins have a policy of shoot first, ask questions later. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 17:51, 31 May 2014 (UTC)

Smart. --David Hedlund (talk) 17:52, 31 May 2014 (UTC)

Uniagonal deletion

Not the first with the idea of the term uniagonal, see this. The term has been discussed before, it's not pseudo-science it's an actual state. Also, your own policies state if the idea has significance and is credible, which if a state exists it is credible, that it's not supposed to be deleted. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Steihl (talk • contribs)

That is not a reliable source. Read this.--Laun chba ller 18:18, 31 May 2014 (UTC)

Jabari Parker's high school career

Why did you revert ThaddeusB who granted my userfication request as an WP:AFD decision? He was well aware of the AFD. -- TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 19:07, 31 May 2014 (UTC)

I suspect you have been admin shopping. If you can persuade Ivanvector (talk · contribs) that the article should be restored, then I will happily do it. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 20:38, 31 May 2014 (UTC)

I have not been admin shopping. After Floquenbeam went offline for 3 days, I randomly chose 10 admins to make the request with. I chose 10 starting with the letter T because of my ID. 10 was just because "you don't know how many have retired, gone on wikibreaks, have no interest in the issue, etc". I think it is admin shopping to chose someone already predisposed one way or the other like Ivanvector (talk · contribs). Shouldn't you choose someone neutral rather than someone I am already bickering with. -- TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 20:52, 31 May 2014 (UTC)

(edit conflict) Why, then, do I see posts to the talk pages of Titoxd, Thespian, ThaddeusB, Tawker, The Placebo Effect, Thehelpfulone, Thingg, Tijuana Brass, Toon05 and TParis in your contributions history - all of which were made within mere seconds of one another? -- Laun chba ller 21:07, 31 May 2014 (UTC)

What an admission! Asking ten admins is admin shopping with a vengeance! AfD 1 and AfD 2 both closed with "delete" decisions. Since userspace is only for stuff that stands a chance in mainspace, there is absolutely no point in userfying the article. It is as simple as that. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 21:25, 31 May 2014 (UTC)
- Like I said that was because "you don't know how many have retired, gone on wikibreaks, have no interest in the issue, etc". I could have asked one single admin who I am friends with, but I did not think that would be any fairer than asking one who was already predisposed against. There is no rule that "userspace is only for stuff that stands a chance in mainspace". My bio is in userspace and has survived Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/User:TonyTheTiger/Antonio Vernon (2nd nomination). This is a userfication request to enable me to become a better editor by understanding policy and guidelines. It appears that you have reverted another admin because you don't understand the rules (if you think it has to have a chance to be in mainspace).--TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 21:31, 31 May 2014 (UTC)
  - This is getting utterly ridiculous. Tony, you do not need a user copy of this article to "become a better editor by understanding policy and guidelines", and I doubt anyone paying attention to this drama is naïve enough to believe this is your true intention. Certainly Floquenbeam saw through the charade, and he wasn't the only one. This is all about trying to save this fork on a subject that you have, to be perfectly blunt, an unhealthy obsession with. And I can predict at least one (if not multiple) trips to ANI in your future when you continue this forum shopping by trying to turn "policy discussions" into unofficial DRVs. Resolute 22:49, 31 May 2014 (UTC)
    - Resolute, If you honestly believe what you say I am sure you would accept an offer to delete the userfication if at any point I am not using it investigating policy.--TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 23:13, 31 May 2014 (UTC)
      - I closed the AN in the hope you would get the hint and drop it for your own good. If you want to discuss or learn policy, go to policy talkpages. Or the help/reference desks. There is absolutely no need for this content in your userspace as multiple people have told you in multiple venues. If you are unwilling to listen to people when they advise you of something, you run the risk of being topic banned from the subject. Only in death does duty end (talk) 00:53, 1 June 2014 (UTC)
        Only in death, Since you may not have noticed the multiple instances in the AN discussion where the unavailablility of history caused confusion and you are certain the histories are not necessary for my intended discussions, would you be willing to userfy them when it becomes obvious that their unavailability is causing further confusion?--TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 02:03, 1 June 2014 (UTC)

Olatunde olalekan isaac

Hello,I reali appreciated your contributions on wikipedia. The article olatunde olalekan isaac [plus Olatunde olalekan, Olatunde O Isaac, Olatunde isaac O and no doubt a few more] was deleted under the A7 law. The article had no good reference then. But how do I recreate it? if it now have a better reference. Thanks (Seventyx (talk) 22:39, 31 May 2014 (UTC))

I apologise for saying this but you really are hopeless. How many times has your pathetic bio stub been deleted? Has it never crossed your mind to look at some of the bios in Wikipedia and copy their style. When you become notable someone with no COI will write about you here. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 18:57, 1 June 2014 (UTC)

help bro

can u pls somehow return my page that u have delete from my sandbox. i am student and that was my essay witch is really important this is link of my sendbox. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Stefannrt9012 (talk • contribs) 17:47, 1 June 2014 (UTC)

Please use proper English and wikilinks. This is the English Wikipedia. Contributions in other languages are not accepted. Wikipedia in not a free host, please do not use it for your school work. read this. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 18:57, 1 June 2014 (UTC)

Why did u delete land of Mianite

I spent a lot of time on this fictional page typing about events that happens in a game and u deleted it, if there is anyway u can send me what you deleted or re post it that would be wonderful for me thank u contact me at <email redacted> thank you this is from the wiki page land of Mianite for reference — Preceding unsigned comment added by Endlesscows (talk • contribs) 18:47, 1 June 2014 (UTC)

You've answered your own question. Wikipedia is not for things that you made up. You should've learnt your lesson from The world of Mianite; why then did you try to write Land of Mianite? -- Laun chba ller 18:54, 1 June 2014 (UTC)

For goodness sake! It was not a fictional page, it was a very real page about a fictional land. Wikipedia does not publish fiction. Very reluctantly emailed. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 18:57, 1 June 2014 (UTC)

Copyvio image

The same user who uploaded File:Robert Downey Jr Susan Downey at 2013 Art + Film Gala.jpg also uploaded this file thumb. Thoughts? LADY LOTUS • TALK 19:01, 1 June 2014 (UTC)

Don't tell me! Tag it with {{db-imgcopyvio|url=http://capitalpictures.photoshelter.com/gallery-image/NOV-02-LACMA-2013-Art-Film-Gala/G0000T1bCJTh0FhI/I00009uz64nHmQzE}} for goodness sake. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 19:06, 1 June 2014 (UTC)

Tia Singh

I had no COI when I wrote the article about Tia Singh. I found out that the article was deleted because Wikipedia found it as a promotional material/spam and don't have encyclopedic value. I believe that it happened because of the lack of substantial references to hold my article . I was not deeply aware of Wikipedian policies while I wrote this article, hence I do agree that it was a mistake from my side. I am looking forward to become a serious Wikipedian and can't risk my account getting suspended. If you check the other articles, you can see that I've given enough references that meet Wikipedia standards. So a new article won't be written about Tia Singh until I find proper references that follow Wikipedia standards. — AbyJohn1991

@Abyjohn1991: I assure you that you are a long way from having your account suspended. Creating a few non-notable bios is harmless. What matters is how you react when they get deleted. See Olatunde olalekan isaac for an extreme example of someone who has kept pushing the same nn-bio again and again!

You came under attack from 117.214.28.134 (talk) (based in India). They had a 50% success rate. The ones that got deleted are: Thais Lopes, Tara Wheeler, O Malli, 46 Mommas and Tia Singh. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 14:48, 2 June 2014 (UTC)

Insight E

Hi RHaworth, I hope this finds you well. I am emailing in regards to the deletion of the INSIGHT_E page, which was about a European-wide energy research programme. I received a message from JacobiJonesJr on 1 June that the page had been deemed promotional and needed to be amended or it would be queued for speedy deletion. I revised the article later on 1 June and removed "the principles" section which might have contained unnecessary information about the conceptual purpose of the project. I then sent a reply to JacobiJonesJr on the talk page about the amendments and asked if the article was now suitable for Wikipedia. I did not receive a reply and instead the page has just been deleted.

I would be most grateful if you could let me know how I can rectify this problem and create a page that meets Wikipedia's criteria. Here is the original link to the page: Insight E. Any guidance would be most appreciated. Very Best, Matthew Reading-Smith — Preceding unsigned comment added by 217.39.171.60 (talk) 10:45, 2 June 2014 (UTC)

Please read this. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 14:48, 2 June 2014 (UTC)

Please read this (which contains WP policies, rather than just personal statements): As a user, despite being an administrator, you are required to follow WP policies. It is against policy to deny editors working from IP addresses the ability to edit, whatever your personal feelings on the matter might be. Please see WP:IP, where it states "Contributors… identified by their IP address… may… edit pages that are not protected or semi-protected."

You are also expected to lead in your discourse with other Users, "by example"; per the administrative conduct section, "Administrators should strive to model appropriate standards of courtesy and civility to other editors and to one another… if an administrator finds that he... cannot adhere to site policies and remain civil (even toward users exhibiting problematic behavior) while addressing a given issue, then the administrator should bring the issue to a noticeboard or refer it to another administrator to address, rather than potentially compound the problem by poor conduct." Italics added. Last friendly encouragement (or moan, if you will). Le Prof Leprof 7272 (talk) 16:22, 3 June 2014 (UTC)

Where in the moan RHaworth links to does it deny IPs editing rights? Of course they can edit this page - my reading of it asks them to state what their relationship to the article is. Not difficult.--Laun chba ller 16:43, 3 June 2014 (UTC)

Ave!Comics

The article about the above French company has been protected by you. An user had created a draft and submitted it at AfC. The draft hasn't been written in a promotional manner. Please move the draft Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/AveComics to Ave!Comics. -- Skr15081997 (talk) 13:02, 2 June 2014 (UTC)

So, fix those horrible naked URLs, change the AfC tag to "accepted" and come back to me. See Return to Groosham Grange and Celebrity Pharmacology as examples of similar moves that I have just done. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 14:48, 2 June 2014 (UTC)

David L. Cook

You deleted my page concerning David L. Cook and I do not understand the reasoning. I work for Harris Cook Law Firm and therefore have the right to copy this information on to our Wikipedia page. Can you please allow us to continue editing on our original page because it took us quite a bit of time and we don't want to have to start over from the beginning. Please let me know as soon as possible. I think this is the link that you are referring to? Thanks, Cecilee Cook — Preceding unsigned comment added by Landersen1 (talk • contribs) 22:24, 2 June 2014 (UTC)

Your submission was a CV. It was not even a start at a proper bio. Kindly have the decency to wait until someone who has no COI but does know what a Wikipedia bio should look like comes along and writes about the guy. (Mansfield is not so arrogant as to call itself a city and I simply do not believe that David L. Cook has ever been its mayor.). — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 11:27, 3 June 2014 (UTC)

Annoyingly, Mansfield, Texas is.--Laun chba ller 11:30, 3 June 2014 (UTC)

Obviously, you are the one who hasn't done their research since each of the following websites include information about Mr. Cook being the mayor of the CITY of Mansfield. [non-talk stuff deleted] You tell me to wait for someone else to do the bio, but the point of me submitting this draft was to get this done soon and not have to wait on someone else to take care of it. If you would please allow us to continue editing this page, it would be greatly appreciated. Thanks for your time and I hope we can resolve this soon. Cecilee Cook — Preceding unsigned comment added by Landersen1 (talk • contribs) 18:53, 3 June 2014 (UTC)

What a cheek telling me to do the research. All the links, and more, that you gave should have been in the article. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 20:20, 3 June 2014 (UTC)

I'm curious. Your username "Landersen1" implies that your surname is Andersen and your first name starts with the letter L. (Or perhaps the reverse.) And yet you sign yourself "Cecilee Cook". Why is this? --Demiurge1000 (talk) 20:06, 3 June 2014 (UTC)

This edit made me really annoyed per WP:TPO.--Laun chba ller 22:51, 3 June 2014 (UTC)

This matters, per what WP policy, exactly how? Your willingness to act on your annoyance rather than on the principles of civility, here? And you what, feed somehow, on this admin's approval/encouragement of the same? You twins really are the LCD of this place. You are like cats playing with their food. Le Prof Leprof 7272 (talk) 01:52, 4 June 2014 (UTC)

Ms Cook, there is a serious conflict of interest (COI) that is against Wikipedia policy that you will not be able to circumvent here if the commonality of your last name with the article subject implies what it seems to imply. Click here to further explore [2].

Someone without an apparent COI has to write about the title individual, and when they do, it has to be neutral, and well-sourced (reputable news sources, print and/or online, no self-generated autobiographical material). You will not succeed otherwise, even with sympathetic and more cordial editors, and for having failed once, the second submission will generally receive greater scrutiny.

There is no recourse in discussion here, with (Redacted) early Wikipedia experiences of others. Cheers, best wishes. Le Prof Leprof 7272 (talk) 01:52, 4 June 2014 (UTC)

Thanks to Demiurge for the redaction, here it is, for novice users who do not understand how to use edit history to review what the fuss was about, [3]. Apparently, attempts at clever jibes by editors aimed at admins and their surrogates are out of bounds, but incivilities from admin-surrogate pairs against IP and new editor are fair game, both in their issuance, and their defense. This is an odd place, and the redacting user, all the more for the limited scope in their application of WP policies in discipline. Damage done to Wikipedia... this page in general, or my redacted comment? mdr. Le Prof Leprof 7272 (talk) 03:40, 5 June 2014 (UTC)

Mircea Gradu

You deleted Mircea Gradu article and I disagree with it. Gradu is a very consequential automotive engineer. Among other things, he coordinated the design and development of the transmissions of all Chrysler vehicles in the last 5 years - please see link. — Simiprof (talk) 13:19, 3 June 2014 (UTC)

Irresponsible

Dear Mr.Warmth, I am wondering why our article for center for responsible travel is deleted. It is our keen for letting people know this sustainable tourism organization. We tried to be objective and concise.Thanks please let page recovered and I can make changes according to your rules. Sincerely, Jcrest — Preceding unsigned comment added by Johnsoncrest (talk • contribs) 14:05, 3 June 2014 (UTC)

I am sorry but I must give you a cool reply: kindly have the decency to wait until someone with no COI thinks your centre is notable and writes about it here. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 20:20, 3 June 2014 (UTC)

Apology for Gross misconduct

My competent admin., Rhaworth. I have come to apologise for my gross misconduct. Am a sockpuppet of Isaacatm (talk · contribs), but I promise not to be involve in such a nonsensical exercise and I will always make a very good contributions on wikipedia. Pls. Kindly accept my apology. (Wikicology (talk) 16:05, 3 June 2014 (UTC))

I shall believe it when I see it. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 20:20, 3 June 2014 (UTC)

Biophysiotherapy

I was reading an interesting article about biofisioterapia (in Spanish) and I've tried to read it in English to share the concept with my North-American and European colleagues, but the link seems to be deleted (biophysiotherapy). It looks that there is a copyright problem but I've seen that the page you refer (a wordpress page) is open or public license or something similar (Creative Commons), so I don't understand why I can't read the page in Wikipedia. As a MD&Ph, specialized in ESWT, I found BioPhysioTherapy an interesting concept (and the page in Spanish provides an accurate approach). BioPhysioTherapy starts to be known in LatinAmerica and I've heard about it even in an international medical congress, so I would like to discuss with you, with the due respect, why you don't allow to create a Wikipedia page. Of course, I appreciate your work controlling the quality of the content, but I wanted to talk with my international colleagues about the concept to prepare the next Shock Waves international congress, and I couldn't, because the page was deleted and I can read just in Spanish and Catalan... why not in more languages? . Thanks. -- Traumatologo-Rehabilitador (talk) 19:46, 3 June 2014 (UTC)

If you can read that article, why not translate it into English and write the article here? BabbaQ may be able to help you since he regularly gets translated articles from the Swedish Wikipedia on to WP:DYK. Please note that the Wordpress site that was copied from is unreliable per WP:SPS.--Laun chba ller 20:02, 3 June 2014 (UTC)

Of course it is purely a coincidence that your account was created two days after the account of the creator of Biophysiotherapy. Even if the copyvio situation were to be fixed the article would still be likely to fail on the grounds of lack of notability. But if you can provide good sound references, preferably in English, then you could try again. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 20:20, 3 June 2014 (UTC)

Hi. As I explained when I contest the speedy deletion of biophysiotherapy, I own http://biophysiotherapy.wordpress.com and I included the text "The text of this website is available for modification and reuse under the terms of the Creative Commons Attribution-Sharealike 3.0 Unported License and the GNU Free Documentation License" as requested in Wikipedia:Donating_copyrighted_materials. I also modified the original content. But anycase the page has been deleted. I'm sorry about not being able to do it correctly; I usually work on spanish Wikipedia and maybe in english is very different. I want to ask how can I publish a translated version of a page (actually someone of my team, who wrote a correct english, not me), because I think biofisioterapia is an spanish word (the concept was born in leading hospitals from Barcelona, Spain) but not an exclusive spanish concept (I think that biological effects of physical stimuli to treat neurological and musculoskeletal problems, instead of physiotherapy, drugs or surgeries, are universal). More links about the concept can be found in http://www.biofisioterapia.org or http://www.biofisioterapia.com (sorry, both are in spanish, but as you can see there are not commercial but informatives). Anycase I don't wanna generate any problem with you or Wikipedia; my only intention was to explain a concept to contribute my two cents. Thanks in advance for your cooperation. -- Xavierguillem (talk) 22:54, 3 June 2014 (UTC)

Sorry. As I've published my talk I've realized that there is a previous talk about the sabe subject. I don't know what is correct to do in that case. I apologize for the duplicate. -- Xavierguillem (talk) 23:01, 3 June 2014 (UTC)

Just get rid of the duplicate header. Both mine and RHaworth's comments apply here. And this is going to sound terribly nitpicky, but your phrase 'anycase' is grammatically incorrect: you mean "in any case".--Laun chba ller 23:11, 3 June 2014 (UTC)

Thanks Launchballer for the info; I will check it. And thanks for your kindly correction of "in any case"... -- Xavierguillem (talk) 23:19, 3 June 2014 (UTC)

Launchballer, yes, it was nit picking - as recommended here, don't do it. Remember that contributors may not have English as their first language - as is pretty obvious in this case. Also errors may simply be typing errors. If the meaning is clear, don't complain about poor English. (Although technically it is a sin, I think it is OK to silently correct another editor's spelling or grammar mistakes - I do it often enough!)

Xavier, absolutely no need to apologise for duplication - I have some firm layout rules for this page but I recognise that they are personal and idiosyncratick so deviations from them are silently corrected. As to biophysiotherapy, I get a strong feeling that this is very much your invention. But in this case my usual "kindly have the decency" mantra does not apply because the minute number of Google hits for biophysiotherapy suggest that no-one is going to be writing on this subject here in the foreseeable future. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 12:35, 4 June 2014 (UTC)

This should bring a laugh

RH-LB (conjoined twins): User:Sven Manguard, see first bullet under Wikipedia resume "Milestones"; and Category:Aliases of 76.66. Curiouser and curiouser, this place seems. Le Prof Leprof 7272 (talk) 00:48, 4 June 2014 (UTC)

woosh deletion

Hi, I ran into this page and saw the article had been deleted (more than once, but I assume giving this name the last deletion for test edit was correct because of his name). I think this subject is admissible, plenty of result in google search, and serious books speaking about it. Can you restore it ? If this was a promotion article it can be neutralized. See this and this in books.google.fr. — TomT0m (talk) 22:06, 4 June 2014 (UTC)

I don't know how you can bear to leave horrible ugly long Google links naked like that. The three versions of whoosh said:

Woosh is wireless internet/phone service
Woosh is a leading wireless broadband service in New Zealand
Woosh is the brand name given to bus services being operated by Worcestershire County Council

So there is no prejudice against writing an article that says "Woosh is a search engine written in Python". When you do it leave a note on the talk page pointing to this message and making it clear that you are writing about a completely different woosh. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 22:24, 4 June 2014 (UTC)

I don't think we're on the same page. The article you deleted was on the python software, I heard. Will you restore it so that we see what it was ? I intend to ask a WP:DRV, so it's easier if you do the restoration yourself :) Or rename it if something like woosh (software) is a better name ? I know an article has been written, let's not restart from the start. — TomT0m (talk) 10:32, 5 June 2014 (UTC)

If you are talking about a different page, why did explicitly provide a link to woosh? You won't get very far at DRV unless you provide the right link. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 12:33, 5 June 2014 (UTC)

Culture of Telangana

Hi Telangana is newly formed state (Bifurcation of Andhra Pradesh). It culture has to separate from Andhra Pradesh. So, I would like to elaborate this page by including deletion culture portion of Andhra Pradesh. And the culture section is need to be redirect. (talk) 23:54, 04 Jun 2014 (UTC)

Please post messages at the bottom, not the top. I have moved it from there.--Laun chba ller 07:22, 5 June 2014 (UTC)

It is extremely unwise to start an article in mainspace. Either: a) start a culture section within the Telangana article or b) develop a new article via articles for creation. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 12:33, 5 June 2014 (UTC)

Involuntary celibacy

Hi. It looks like you deleted involuntary celibacy as a G4. It was history undeleted at DRV on the 4th (same day you deleted it). There may have been some discussion elsewhere, but if not, could you undelete it please? Thanks, Hobit (talk) 04:05, 5 June 2014 (UTC)

I saw this comment: "due to the nature of this entire debacle, things have gotten quite confusing". I am certainly confused. Please provide links to the log entry for the alleged history undeletion and the associated DRV discussion. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 12:33, 5 June 2014 (UTC)
- Ah, it wasn't history undeleted, the closer just wanted the history to stand. WP:DRV is that way. Hobit (talk) 13:28, 5 June 2014 (UTC)

Deleted page Syngraph

Can you explain me, where is the part or phrase that you consider advertising or promotion? I have whole rewrite the page after the first deletion, but don't understand where I wrong. Can you help me or suggest where is a mistake? The page was Syngraph — Preceding unsigned comment added by 192.150.195.18 (talk) 07:28, 5 June 2014 (UTC)

Messages go at the bottom, not the top. I have moved it from there. Read this.--Laun chba ller 07:34, 5 June 2014 (UTC)

We don't have a speedy deletion criterion for patently non-notable software so the deletion proposer used spam instead which I was happy to accept. Kindly have the decency to wait until someone with no COI thinks your project is notable and writes about it here. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 12:33, 5 June 2014 (UTC)

For future reference, yes there is - {{db-web}}.--Laun chba ller 12:40, 5 June 2014 (UTC)

Restored a few speedies

When checking the speedy deletion nominations of User:OccultZone, I restored and discussed a few which you deleted (incorrectly, in my opinion). Feel free to join the discussion at User talk:OccultZone#Speedy deletion nominations (or here or at my talk page of course). — Fram (talk) 09:39, 5 June 2014 (UTC)

Agilefant

You had marked the page Agilefant for speedy removal due to A7. But the page was about an open source agile project management tool Agilefant. We were just in process of adding links to several 3rd party sources, where Agilefant is highlighted, as one of the top open source project management tools, e.g. the VersionOne's 8th annual State of Agile survey, where Agilefant is highlighted in the executive summary as one of the emerging tools in the market place. Can you explain, how the page falls under A7? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Iko Rein (talk • contribs) 10:13, 5 June 2014 (UTC)

Kindly have the decency to wait until someone with no COI thinks your tool is notable and writes about it here. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 12:33, 5 June 2014 (UTC)

Instant Heart Rate

Give me the source of Instant Heart Rate that you deleted so I can fix in in my sandbox. I have no lust to recreate it. --David Hedlund (talk) 13:14, 5 June 2014 (UTC)

Thank you for the source. Can this article be deleted from my sandbox as well? --David Hedlund (talk) 13:54, 5 June 2014 (UTC)

Thea Austin

Hello, RHaworth. Another administrator, MrKIA11, deleted Thea Austin; could you please restore it to User:Launchballer/Thea Austin because she featured on Rhythm is a Dancer and was a member of Soulsearcher? MrKIA11 hasn't edited in almost four months. Thank you.--Laun chba ller 13:46, 5 June 2014 (UTC)

Clang, clang, clang...

... go the alarm bells about a new editor who claims "Admin.Rhaworth whose immense contributions and correction has been my driving force." --Shirt58 (talk) 13:57, 5 June 2014 (UTC)

Zening Resorts re-writing

Dear RHaworth,

First of all, thank you for your job taking care of Wikipedia's quality control. I am sorry that I can not provide you the link, since I am a beginner in Wikipedia and I do not have the knowledge or/and experience required. But I can provide you the link where the article used to appear https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zening_resorts

Secondly, I am contacting you since you are the user who delete my article about Zening Resorts. As I answer when I received the speedy deletion, this is the first article that I write for Wikipedia. That is the reason why - though I read the tutorial before start writing - mistakes can be made, and I am totally open to suggestions in order to be possible for my article to come up to the public.

I was thinking about how my article could fit in your non-advertisement criteria, and I consider that I can eliminate the sections 4 to 9 (main characteristics, accomodation, amenities, leisure activities, food at zening, and yoga and meditation).Probably the section 10 (Spiritual wedding and honeymoon) as well. The rest of sections I consider they are basic information of the place and social actions for the good of the community.

But since you are the one of us with much more experience and knowledge in Wikipedia, please clarify me what I should change to be able to participate in Wikipedia.

Thank you for your attention and your time.

Yours sincerelly,

aazrcy