Talk:List of lists of American state and local politicians convicted of crimes: Difference between revisions

Content deleted Content added

Inline

Revision as of 13:25, 8 August 2019

This article must adhere to the biographies of living persons (BLP) policy, even if it is not a biography, because it contains material about living persons. Contentious material about living persons that is unsourced or poorly sourced must be removed immediately from the article and its talk page, especially if potentially libellous. If such material is repeatedly inserted, or if you have other concerns, please report the issue to this noticeboard.

If you are a subject of this article, or acting on behalf of one, and you need help, please see this help page.

This article is of interest to the following WikiProjects:

Please add the quality rating to the {{WikiProject banner shell}} template instead of this project banner. See WP:PIQA for details.

Crime and Criminal Biography List‑class Low‑importance

	This article is within the scope of WikiProject Crime and Criminal Biography, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of Crime and Criminal Biography articles on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join the discussion and see a list of open tasks.Crime and Criminal BiographyWikipedia:WikiProject Crime and Criminal BiographyTemplate:WikiProject Crime and Criminal BiographyCrime-related articles
List	This article has been rated as List-class on Wikipedia's content assessment scale.
Low	This article has been rated as Low-importance on the project's importance scale.

Please add the quality rating to the {{WikiProject banner shell}} template instead of this project banner. See WP:PIQA for details.

United States List‑class Low‑importance

	United States portal This article is within the scope of WikiProject United States, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of topics relating to the United States of America on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join the ongoing discussions. Template Usage Articles Requested! Become a Member Project Talk Alerts United StatesWikipedia:WikiProject United StatesTemplate:WikiProject United StatesUnited States articles
List	This article has been rated as List-class on Wikipedia's content assessment scale.
Low	This article has been rated as Low-importance on the project's importance scale.

This article must adhere to the biographies of living persons (BLP) policy, even if it is not a biography, because it contains material about living persons. Contentious material about living persons that is unsourced or poorly sourced must be removed immediately from the article and its talk page, especially if potentially libellous. If such material is repeatedly inserted, or if you have other concerns, please report the issue to this noticeboard.

If you are a subject of this article, or acting on behalf of one, and you need help, please see this help page.

Please add the quality rating to the {{WikiProject banner shell}} template instead of this project banner. See WP:PIQA for details.

Biography: Politics and Government List‑class

	Biography portal This article is within the scope of WikiProject Biography, a collaborative effort to create, develop and organize Wikipedia's articles about people. All interested editors are invited to join the project and contribute to the discussion. For instructions on how to use this banner, please refer to the documentation.BiographyWikipedia:WikiProject BiographyTemplate:WikiProject Biographybiography articles
List	This article has been rated as List-class on Wikipedia's content assessment scale.
	This article is supported by the politics and government work group.

Please add the quality rating to the {{WikiProject banner shell}} template instead of this project banner. See WP:PIQA for details.

Lists List‑class Low‑importance

	This article is within the scope of WikiProject Lists, an attempt to structure and organize all list pages on Wikipedia. If you wish to help, please visit the project page, where you can join the project and/or contribute to the discussion.ListsWikipedia:WikiProject ListsTemplate:WikiProject ListsList articles
List	This article has been rated as List-class on the project's quality scale.
Low	This article has been rated as Low-importance on the project's importance scale.

Please add the quality rating to the {{WikiProject banner shell}} template instead of this project banner. See WP:PIQA for details.

Politics: American List‑class Low‑importance

	Politics portal This article is within the scope of WikiProject Politics, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of politics on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join the discussion and see a list of open tasks.PoliticsWikipedia:WikiProject PoliticsTemplate:WikiProject Politicspolitics articles
List	This article has been rated as List-class on Wikipedia's content assessment scale.
Low	This article has been rated as Low-importance on the project's importance scale.
	This article is supported by American politics task force.

Please add the quality rating to the {{WikiProject banner shell}} template instead of this project banner. See WP:PIQA for details.

Crime and Criminal Biography List‑class Low‑importance

	This article is within the scope of WikiProject Crime and Criminal Biography, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of Crime and Criminal Biography articles on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join the discussion and see a list of open tasks.Crime and Criminal BiographyWikipedia:WikiProject Crime and Criminal BiographyTemplate:WikiProject Crime and Criminal BiographyCrime-related articles
List	This article has been rated as List-class on Wikipedia's content assessment scale.
Low	This article has been rated as Low-importance on the project's importance scale.

This article was nominated for deletion on January 3, 2018. The result of the discussion was keep.

Warning: active arbitration remedies

The contentious topics procedure applies to this article. This article is related to post-1992 politics of the United States and closely related people, which is a contentious topic. Furthermore, the following rules apply when editing this article:

You may not make more than 1 revert within 24 hours on this article (except in limited circumstances)
You must follow the bold-revert-discuss cycle if your change is reverted. You may not reinstate your edit until you post a talk page message discussing your edit and have waited 24 hours from the time of this talk page message

Editors who repeatedly or seriously fail to adhere to the purpose of Wikipedia, any expected standards of behaviour, or any normal editorial process may be blocked or restricted by an administrator. Editors are advised to familiarise themselves with the contentious topics procedures before editing this page.

Further information

Enforcement procedures:

Violations of any of these restrictions should be reported immediately to the arbitration enforcement noticeboard.
Editors who are aware of this topic being designated a contentious topic and who violate these restrictions may be sanctioned by any uninvolved administrator, even on a first offense.

With respect to the WP:1RR restriction:

Edits made solely to enforce any clearly established consensus are exempt from all edit-warring restrictions.
Edits made which remove or otherwise change any material placed by clearly established consensus, without first obtaining consensus to do so, may be treated in the same manner as obvious vandalism.
In order to be considered "clearly established" the consensus must be proven by prior talk-page discussion.
Reverts of edits made by anonymous (IP) editors are exempt from the 1RR but are subject to the usual rules on edit warring. If you are in doubt, contact an administrator for assistance.
Whenever you are relying on one of these exemptions, you should refer to it in your edit summary and, if applicable, link to the discussion where consensus was clearly established.

The contentious topics procedure can be used against any editor who repeatedly or seriously fails to adhere to the purpose of Wikipedia, any expected standards of behaviour, or any normal editorial process. Contentious topics sanctions can include blocks, topic-bans, or other restrictions.

If you are unsure if your edit is appropriate, discuss it here on this talk page first. Remember: When in doubt, don't revert!

expand

The predominate number of entries of recent years is probably a WP references' artifact and not a reflection of any reality that convictions in recent years are more numerous than past years. So past years need more entries. Hmains (talk) 02:05, 13 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Definition of Politician

A politician is considered by Wikipedia to be: People who are politically active, especially in party politics. A person holding or seeking political office whether elected or appointed, whether professionally or otherwise.Birdshot9 (talk) 21:14, 17 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Also: A politician, political leader, or political figure...is someone who is involved in influencing public policy and decision making.Birdshot9 (talk) 21:15, 17 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

See Talk:List of American federal politicians convicted of crimes for lengthy discussion of this topic, although note that it includes a lot of sockpuppet accounts pushing the line that everyone in government is a politician. Hairhorn (talk) 19:55, 12 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

... and note also that Birdshot9 above is also one of the socks. Hairhorn (talk) 12:59, 13 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

What about this mess?

R._Budd_Dwyer#Bribery_investigation_and_conviction. He was treasurer convicted of bribery, but commited suicide on television before sentencing. Also convicted was the state Republican Party Chairman, Bob Asher. The article is pretty top-heavy towards recent decades, and something from the 80's would balance it slightly, especially given the notoriety of the outcome (indeed, Asher is still a politician). — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ghostwo (talk • contribs) 14:33, 3 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

RFC

Closed as no consensus. Opinions were roughly split between keeping convictions overturned on appeal and pardons; and only deleting pardons.- Mr X 🖋 20:06, 22 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

When a person receives a pardon, or the conviction is overturned on appeal, does that mean we should delete the entry here; or should we keep the entry and mention that the conviction was overturned or that they were pardoned? 16:45, 29 November 2017 (UTC)

Keep entry and mention overturned/pardoned

both the conviction and the overturn/pardon are historical facts and should be kept in this article. This is a history article, not a discourse in law. Hmains (talk) 21:48, 29 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]
First choice. This is a history article about legal convictions, not guilt, and isn't necessarily intended to pass judgment on the people listed. (eg. it includes people whose 'crimes' are civil disobedience as well, even civil disobedience that most people today would consider proper.) We can provide 'overturned' or 'pardoned' for context, but the conviction is the important part; nothing that happens afterwards should remove it. --Aquillion (talk) 13:51, 16 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Delete for appeals, Keep for pardons

Y Accepting pardon is an implicit admission of guilt, and the pardon itself is (usually) an executive fiat and not a judicial decision. Appeals, on the other hand, correct the verdict of the previous court. In my mind pardons should be kept here (but the pardon noted), while successful appeals - not.Icewhiz (talk) 08:08, 30 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Y See my comments below. See also that Johnsagent also articulated this position, so that's now five editors who've expressed support for keeping pardoned convictions in the list, and only one for deleting them. -Jason A. Quest (talk) 15:28, 9 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Y While a presidential pardon or an expungement erases the criminal record it should not erase history. --RAN (talk) 00:44, 30 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Y Second choice. I'd prefer to keep even overturned convictions (since they are still historically relevant), but a pardon definitely shouldn't get someone removed, since it doesn't even involve any finding that they weren't guilty. --Aquillion (talk) 13:51, 16 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Delete entry

This is an article for those who have been convicted of crimes. If someone has bee pardoned or the conviction has subsequently been over turned then they should not continue to be on this list. Regardless of whether or not they are 'historical facts' this is an articles for political criminals, not for those who have subsequently been found innocent via their convictions being overturned or those who have received pardons. JimmyJoe87 (talk) 01:09, 30 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Discussion

It would be helpful if an example could be given, or point to discussion about a case. It is difficult to answer an abstract question.Pincrete (talk) 23:41, 29 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Here are three that were removed

Hmmm. We (me too) seem to be confusing, REVERSAL and OVERTURNED with PARDON and by whom. Mr. Bohling was not pardoned by a federal court, or a governor or a president whose pardon does not negate a finding of guilty, but only forgives the penalties. His charges were overturned by the State Supreme Court of Wyoming which found errors in the trial and/or law itself. In my opinion, yes, this makes Bohling innocent of the 4 counts mentioned, and those should be removed from this list. However, the SC court let stand one count of official misconduct of which he was both convicted and guilty.

Though it was a misdemeanor, some misdemeanors are quite serious and have substantial penalties. I see no discussion of how slight an infraction should be included in this list. I see some drunk driving and one time tax citations I would have left out as too trivial and other misdemeanor citations with heavy fines and jail time I would have included. I would suggest, we leave it to the judge. If he feels only a ticket or a class is necessary, we leave them out. If classes, fines, probation, community service and jail time are added, we include them on this list. 5K seems to me to be a pretty hefty fine. What do you think? Johnsagent (talk) 03:22, 30 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

If a person was convicted of a crime, but they were later pardoned for that crime, they were still convicted of it, and acceptance of the pardon is a tacit admission of guilt. That's what the word "convicted" means: verb, past tense. The conviction is a matter of historical fact, and the pardon doesn't mean it never happened, only that they are exempted from any legal consequences of it. -Jason A. Quest (talk) 14:01, 8 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

External links modified

Hello fellow Wikipedians,

I have just modified 8 external links on List of American state and local politicians convicted of crimes. Please take a moment to review my edit. If you have any questions, or need the bot to ignore the links, or the page altogether, please visit this simple FaQ for additional information. I made the following changes:

When you have finished reviewing my changes, you may follow the instructions on the template below to fix any issues with the URLs.

This message was posted before February 2018. After February 2018, "External links modified" talk page sections are no longer generated or monitored by InternetArchiveBot. No special action is required regarding these talk page notices, other than regular verification using the archive tool instructions below. Editors have permission to delete these "External links modified" talk page sections if they want to de-clutter talk pages, but see the RfC before doing mass systematic removals. This message is updated dynamically through the template {{source check}} (last update: 5 June 2024).

If you have discovered URLs which were erroneously considered dead by the bot, you can report them with this tool.
If you found an error with any archives or the URLs themselves, you can fix them with this tool.

Cheers.—InternetArchiveBot (Report bug) 09:26, 24 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Please make easier to navigate

Instead of breaking it down by decade, it would be a lot easier to navigate if it was just in strict chronological order by each state. Maybe it is time to break out each state into its own list. What do you think? --RAN (talk) 23:55, 20 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Some Issues

First this article is already unwieldy in its length. I strongly suggest breaking it up into separate lists by state. If this ever turns into something other than an exercise in current events we will probably need separate lists by both state and decade. Secondly we need to set a few standards. As a matter of common sense I think we should restrict this list to individuals convicted of felonies. As satisfying as I am sure some find it to put former Sheriff Arpaio on here, his conviction was legally on the same scale as reckless driving. Sorry, misdemeanor convictions are fine to mention in an actual article provided they meet our other criteria for inclusion but on a list like this, including such would be categorically nuts. Also just say no to red links unless there is a VERY strong likelihood that an article will be created in the near future. If they don't have an article then there is a strong probability it's because they don't pass WP:N. And I would be very leery about including small town politicians on this list for the same reasons. Most of them won't pass WP:NPOL and if the basis of their presumed notability is their crime then you need to question the extent and duration of the coverage. Was it more or less local or regional? Was it WP:LASTING? And then there is WP:1E. So unless we are talking about a politician who is clearly notable independently of their criminal behavior (think mayors of really major cities) I'd just say no to local pols and move on. -Ad Orientem (talk) 00:02, 21 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Should we remove all local citations?Valleyjc (talk) 20:30, 31 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Local citations, provided they are otherwise RS, can be fine for establishing the accuracy of claims. But they probably should not be considered when weighing notability either for the subject and/or criteria for inclusion on this list. If the person, and their crimes have not received extensive coverage in multiple non-local reliable secondary sources then I don't think they belong on this list. Likewise crimes that are not felonies should not be posted here. -Ad Orientem (talk) 22:19, 31 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

split at 1999/2000

I propose to split this article into two articles: '2000 to present' and 'prior to 2000' as a first measure to reduce the size of this article. This will not eliminate any of the content. Any comments? Hmains (talk) 19:03, 2 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

I don't think its too long. Yet. Caltropdefense (talk) 19:41, 8 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Perhaps we can divide it by states?Orliepie (talk) 18:28, 23 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

As long as we don't delete anything, per state articles is OK.Newlenp (talk) 19:29, 17 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

I think we should divide by state and, absent objection, will start to do so. Neutrality^talk 18:43, 19 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Ralph W. Chandless

I have reverted the re-insertion of the entry for Ralph W. Chandless, who was expelled from the New Jersey State Senate. I haven't seen a citation indicating that Chandless was actually convicted of a crime by a court, which is necessary for inclusion on this page. Neutrality^talk 17:45, 22 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]

I've reverted an attempt to reinsert this material on this page, which was made without any attempt to discuss or gain consensus here. Kindly do not reinsert this material. I'll add that including this material raises a serious concern about WP:BLP insofar as it could set a precedent for inclusion of other material on this page. Neutrality^talk 00:27, 31 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]

You are correct. And the claim in the edit summary that expulsion constitutes a criminal conviction is factually wrong. -Ad Orientem (talk) 03:32, 31 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]

No need to guess, the federal procedure is described here, Expulsion from the United States Congress. The states are all similar. Caltropdefense (talk) 19:49, 7 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Inaccurate information

Information is inaccurate. Caleb Powers, Len Small and Tom Berryhill were never convicted, Edmund Matricardi III is not an elected politician, local judges such Juvenile Court Judge Darrell Catron and those with DUI's have never been included, Frank Ballance was a federal politician etc so should be removed. HeggyTy (talk) 06:18, 9 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Other stuff not being here is no reason to remove stuff that is. You'll need to provide reliable published secondary sources to back up your claims here, and I'd strongly suggest not changing the article again in any way without consensus. You are one edit away from a WP:3RR block. John from Idegon (talk) 06:39, 9 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

As I have pointed out numerous times now, which you could check yourself by either going on their respective wikipedia articles or typing it into google: Powers was pardoned by the Governor (We don't include people with pardons in the list as i've chekced), Small was aquitted in the trial so should never have been included anyway and Matricardi is not an elected politician nor is he an appointed politician, so again he shouldn't be included. HeggyTy (talk) 08:27, 9 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Sources are required to back up your position. If indeed the one guy was pardoned, I may agree to that removal (but you are going to have to link to the consensus for that along with providing a reliable source.) I don't have to check anything anywhere. It is you that wants the content changed, and the WP:BURDEN is on you to prove your point. Change the article again and it's a near certainty you will be blocked. The way you are going about this is not how it is done. Does that have to be demonstrated to you? John from Idegon (talk) 09:50, 9 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

http://bioguide.congress.gov/scripts/biodisplay.pl?index=P000487 = House of Representatives website states Powers was pardoned so remove Powers. https://www.tribpub.com/gdpr/chicagotribune.com/ = Articles clearly states that Small was aquitted at trial so remove Small. As to your comment of 'I don't have to check anything anywhere' it is clear you have no interest in actually checking sources or links yourself and instead resort to throwing your weight around, which is so petty. I notice that you have had run ins with multiple editors on this page before, which begs the question 'Who is really the problem here' HeggyTy (talk) 11:06, 9 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

I take no position in this dispute, but John is quite correct that it is up to you to make your case; others will not make it for you. You must provide the sources. 331dot (talk) 12:04, 9 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Since I have produced the sources backing up my claims, may I now delete the additions that I had originally wanted to have removed. HeggyTy (talk) 12:30, 9 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

@John from Idegon are you just going to ignore my question now that I have shown proof of what I was saying was right? HeggyTy (talk) 08:17, 10 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

No. There is no consensus to remove those that are pardoned. See above. The link to the Tribune leads to a page about content not being available in Europe. So you have not made your case. There is WP:NODEADLINE. Also, can the attitude. Thos is how Wikipedia works. John from Idegon (talk) 08:45, 10 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Oh, BTW. What about the others? John from Idegon (talk) 08:47, 10 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

I'm just going to escalate this to administrators. This is an article for people convicted of crimes, not those who have been pardoned or not convicted at all, so it doesn't need consensus. I'm not really that bothered if you can't open the article in Europe, I gave you a source, from a reputable site, so go on google if you want to find more. HeggyTy (talk) 20:48, 10 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

As for the others I will leave them in just for you since you want them in so badly :) HeggyTy (talk) 20:51, 10 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Administrators do not settle content disputes. There are several processes listed under WP:DR. Since this dispute involves only two editors, the most appropriate ones to try first are notifying the projects followed by WP:3O, assuming there are still only two editors involved. FYI, 331dot is an administrator. And I am on a totally different network now, and I am still getting the message about the content not being available in Europe. I am not in Europe, that is what the message says. You have entered a dead link, which clearly is not going to verify anything. Feel free to "escalate this to the adminstrators" , whatever that means. The only one behaving poorly here is you. John from Idegon (talk) 20:57, 10 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

New link just for you to read: https://www.nbcchicago.com/blogs/ward-room/The-12-Most-Corrupt-Public-Officials-In-Illinois-History-Len-Small-137026563.html HeggyTy (talk) 21:01, 10 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Context, please? We are discussing several individuals. I'm guessing this is in regards Small, but what are you claiming it shows and how? John from Idegon (talk) 21:06, 10 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Doesn't the result of the RfC state that there was no consensus to delete if a conviction was appealed, overturned and the individual received a pardon. But it they are just pardoned, the RfC states that they should be deleted. And no one who is not a state or local politician should be on this list, they should be removed. I haven't looked at the sources yet and edit-warring is wrong but the editor might have some valid points. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 00:15, 11 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

You may want to reread the RfC, only one editor voted for deleting pardons. The other 5 were split on whether to delete convictions overturned on appeal, but all 5 of them explicitly stated that pardoned convictions should stay. 199.247.45.74 (talk) 07:12, 11 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

I have tried to remove Len Small from the article since I have given a source saying he was acquitted and not convicted of any crime. So why are you reverting it? HeggyTy (talk) 08:30, 15 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Page division

Since this page is 333,550 bytes long, how about dividing it up into separate pages by decade? An alternative is to divide it up by state but I think it would be better to break it up by time than geography. What do you think? Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 00:07, 11 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Since I see that this division has been proposed several times with little response, unless there is opposition to the breakup that includes a justification for why not, I'll go ahead with this split-up in 7 days. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 00:17, 11 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

I oppose putting it by state rather than by time. I think we should keep it how it is for now. HeggyTy (talk) 12:16, 13 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Your opinion doesn't count, because you're one of the hundreds of sock puppets of the Maquis.Caltropdefense (talk) 18:43, 7 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 15 May 2019

This edit request to List of American state and local politicians convicted of crimes has been answered. Set the |answered= or |ans= parameter to no to reactivate your request.

The removal of Len Small from the article. I have attached numerous sources, all of which state he was acquitted during the trial and was never convicted of any crime. This is an article for those convicted of crimes, not those who were acquitted or found not guilty.

https://www.nbcchicago.com/blogs/ward-room/The-12-Most-Corrupt-Public-Officials-In-Illinois-History-Len-Small-137026563.html

https://www.jstor.org/stable/40191273?seq=1#page_scan_tab_contents

https://archive.org/stream/trialsoflensmall00hars/trialsoflensmall00hars_djvu.txt

https://illinoistimes.com/article-15149-illinois-governors-in-trouble.html

https://will.illinois.edu/news/story/kankakee-county-backs-memorial-to-ryan-two-other-ex-governors

Please remove Len Small.

HeggyTy (talk) 08:38, 15 May 2019 (UTC) HeggyTy (talk) 08:38, 15 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Done – Jonesey95 (talk) 09:14, 15 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 12 June 2019

This edit request to List of American state and local politicians convicted of crimes has been answered. Set the |answered= or |ans= parameter to no to reactivate your request.

Re-add: New York

Speaker of the New York State Assembly Sheldon Silver (D) convicted of corruption. (2018)^[1]

New Mexico

State Senator Manny Aragon (D) was found guilty of three counts of conspiracy to defraud 4.4 million from the State of New Mexico. (2009)^[2]

References

^ "Sheldon Silver Convicted of Corruption—Again - The Forum Newsgroup". theforumnewsgroup.com. Retrieved 16 April 2019.
^ The Seattle Times.com, March 16, 2009, "Federal judge sentences former NM senator to 5A1/2 years in prison, orders fines" by Ap writer Heather Clark.

Editor removed them even though Silver's appeal failed and he is still in jail and Aragon's fraud case related to his time in public office. 193.60.159.61 (talk) 08:43, 12 June 2019 (UTC) 193.60.159.61 (talk) 08:43, 12 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Sourcing leaves a lot to be desired. Completely oppose Silver, pending reliable sources. Aragon is sourced to an AP story. Can we find anything we can actually read? In theory, AP stories can be picked up by multiple papers. John from Idegon (talk) 08:58, 12 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Partly done: Manny Aragon was not convicted whilst in office, so not added. Sheldon Silver added with NY Times source. MrClog (talk) 09:39, 13 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 3 July 2019

This edit request to List of American state and local politicians convicted of crimes has been answered. Set the |answered= or |ans= parameter to no to reactivate your request.

Can you please put this in the Virginia category

State Delegate Ron Villanueva (R) was convicted of fraud. (2019)^[1] 193.60.159.61 (talk) 12:42, 3 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

References

^ https://news.abs-cbn.com/overseas/07/03/19/former-fil-am-lawmaker-sentenced-for-defrauding-federal-government

Done –MJL ‐Talk‐^☖ 17:19, 3 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Just so it is made clear. Villanueva, according to the source, defrauded the federal government while in office and so was added.

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 3 July 2019

This edit request to List of American state and local politicians convicted of crimes has been answered. Set the |answered= or |ans= parameter to no to reactivate your request.

In South Carolina:

State Representative James “Jim” Harrison (R) convicted of corruption. (2018)^[1]

has been added twice. Can someone remove one please. Also with Ron Villanueva please could his conviction go on top of Phil Hamilton since his was the most recent conviction. XieXie97 (talk) 21:56, 3 July 2019 (UTC) XieXie97 (talk) 21:56, 3 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Done Alduin2000 (talk) 22:51, 6 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

References

^ "James Harrison". Ballotpedia. Retrieved 16 April 2019.

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 18 July 2019

This edit request to List of American state and local politicians convicted of crimes has been answered. Set the |answered= or |ans= parameter to no to reactivate your request.

Kentucky

Secretary of State Caleb Powers (R) was convicted in the assassination of Democratic Governor William J. Goebel. Powers was found guilty and served eight years in jail.(1908) (1900)^[1]^[2]

Powers was removed by a BLOCKED editor. I don't know why, but he should be in here.Caltropdefense (talk) 18:14, 18 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

References

^ "COMMONWEALTH OF KENTUCKY v. CALEB POWERS. IN THE MATTER OF THE COMMONWEALTH OF KENTUCKY, COMMONWEALTH OF KENTUCKY, ". LII / Legal Information Institute. Retrieved 16 April 2019.
^ "POWERS, Caleb - Biographical Information". bioguide.congress.gov. Retrieved 16 April 2019.

@Caltropdefense: So, are you requesting Powers to appear twice? [Once here and again.. here? –MJL ‐Talk‐^☖ 19:05, 18 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

@Caltropdefense: He's already listed in the article, so no change needs made. @MJL: I missed the dates as the top-level headings in this article. I'll take my trout glazed in Kentucky bourbon, please. :) —C.Fred (talk) 19:09, 18 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

@C.Fred: No can do. I'm not able to serve alcohol until I turn 21.. lol –MJL ‐Talk‐^☖ 19:36, 18 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 8 August 2019

It is requested that an edit be made to the semi-protected redirect at List of American state and local politicians convicted of crimes. (edit · history · last · links · protection log)

This template must be followed by a complete and specific description of the request, that is, specify what text should be removed and a verbatim copy of the text that should replace it. "Please change X" is not acceptable and will be rejected; the request must be of the form "please change X to Y".

The edit may be made by any autoconfirmed user. Remember to change the |answered=no parameter to "yes" when the request has been accepted, rejected or on hold awaiting user input. This is so that inactive or completed requests don't needlessly fill up the edit requests category. You may also wish to use the {{ESp}} template in the response. To request that a page be protected or unprotected, make a protection request.

Please add Tallahassee City Commissioner Scott Maddox (D) to the local section of the Florida part. He was convicted of corruption.^[1] Hollahoppings (talk) 13:25, 8 August 2019 (UTC) Hollahoppings (talk) 13:25, 8 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

^ https://eu.tallahassee.com/story/news/local/fbi/2019/08/06/scott-maddox-paige-carter-smith-plead-guilty-public-corruption-probe/1919742001/

[1] "Sheldon Silver Convicted of Corruption—Again - The Forum Newsgroup". theforumnewsgroup.com. Retrieved 16 April 2019.

[2] The Seattle Times.com, March 16, 2009, "Federal judge sentences former NM senator to 5A1/2 years in prison, orders fines" by Ap writer Heather Clark.

[3] ttps://news.abs-cbn.com/overseas/07/03/19/former-fil-am-lawmaker-sentenced-for-defrauding-federal-government

[ballotpedia.org1-4] "James Harrison". Ballotpedia. Retrieved 16 April 2019.

[5] "COMMONWEALTH OF KENTUCKY v. CALEB POWERS. IN THE MATTER OF THE COMMONWEALTH OF KENTUCKY, COMMONWEALTH OF KENTUCKY, ". LII / Legal Information Institute. Retrieved 16 April 2019.

[6] "POWERS, Caleb - Biographical Information". bioguide.congress.gov. Retrieved 16 April 2019.

[7] ttps://eu.tallahassee.com/story/news/local/fbi/2019/08/06/scott-maddox-paige-carter-smith-plead-guilty-public-corruption-probe/1919742001/

[1]

[2]

[1]

[1]

[1]

[2]

[1]

@@ Line 209: / Line 209: @@
 ::<span class="template-ping">@[[User:Caltropdefense|Caltropdefense]]:</span> He's already listed in the article, so no change needs made. <span class="template-ping">@[[User:MJL|MJL]]:</span> I missed the dates as the top-level headings in this article. I'll take my [[WP:TROUT|trout]] glazed in Kentucky bourbon, please. :) —'''[[User:C.Fred|C.Fred]]''' ([[User_talk:C.Fred|talk]]) 19:09, 18 July 2019 (UTC)
 :::<small>{{re|C.Fred}} No can do. I'm not able to serve alcohol until I turn 21.. lol &#8211;<span style="font-family:CG Times">[[User:MJL|<span style="color:black">MJL</span>]]&thinsp;[[User talk:MJL|‐'''Talk'''‐]]<sup>[[WP:WikiProject Connecticut|☖]]</sup></span> 19:36, 18 July 2019 (UTC)</small>
+== Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 8 August 2019 ==
+{{edit extended-protected|List of American state and local politicians convicted of crimes|answered=no}}
+Please add [[Tallahassee, Florida|Tallahassee City Commissioner]] [[Scott Maddox]] (D) to the local section of the Florida part. He was convicted of corruption.<ref>https://eu.tallahassee.com/story/news/local/fbi/2019/08/06/scott-maddox-paige-carter-smith-plead-guilty-public-corruption-probe/1919742001/</ref> [[User:Hollahoppings|Hollahoppings]] ([[User talk:Hollahoppings|talk]]) 13:25, 8 August 2019 (UTC) [[User:Hollahoppings|Hollahoppings]] ([[User talk:Hollahoppings|talk]]) 13:25, 8 August 2019 (UTC)