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How to pin a section at a talk page and prevent bot from archiving it

I would like to know how exactly can an editor create a pinned section in a talk page which is excluded from archiving by bots. Thanks -- Kmoksha (talk) 11:31, 19 January 2020 (UTC)

I originally thought you meant your own user talk page, which you are free to configure as you wish, but I see that you do not have archiving set up on User talk:Kmoksha. I saw notifications in the history that refer to archiving of Teahouse questions. If that is what you are referring to, the short answer is "you can't" (as far as I know). Archiving for this page is configured to keep the page at a manageable size by archiving threads that have ceased to be active. Currently, that seems to be threads not posted to for 48 hours. Perhaps whoever last configured it will comment, but it currently has 46 sections and many, many full-size browser pages of text. I suggest, when receiving notification that your thread was archived, you copy the link from the archive message (e.g. [1]) to a list in your userspace somewhere like User:Kmoksha/Archived discussions. Maybe there's a helper script to do this somewhere (anybody?). —[AlanM1(talk)]— 13:46, 19 January 2020 (UTC)

AlanM1 Thanks for your response. Please assume that the Wikipedia editor wants to do things in good faith. I do not intend to be disruptive, so obviously I would not do it in TeaHouse forum. I would like to use it for my own talk page and for Article Talk page with agreement of other editors. On own talk page, I could later use an archiving bot and use this feature to exclude some sections from being archived. Similarly, there can be sections which all editors would agree for being pinned and not being archived by bot.

I saw this template - Template:Pin section but the instructions in it are not clear. It says "Place {{subst:Pin section}} or {{subst:pinsec}} at the top of a talk page section." But the "top" means above the section title ? My question is regarding formatting. -- Kmoksha (talk) 14:15, 19 January 2020 (UTC)

Sorry you feel I got it wrong, but I wasn't implying anything about motive. I didn't have much to go on, and explained my mind-reading. —[AlanM1(talk)]— 14:21, 19 January 2020 (UTC)

As to the question, it appears to mean after the section title (before the section title would put it in the previous section). E.g., User talk:Pine#Motivations for editing Wikipedia. I've clarified the doc. —[AlanM1(talk)]— 16:06, 19 January 2020 (UTC)

Is this what you're after? {{Do not archive until}} You can set any date on it. - X201 (talk) 17:29, 19 January 2020 (UTC)

Missed the bit about Pin section being a wrapper of this. - X201 (talk) 17:32, 19 January 2020 (UTC)

Usage example, a pinned RFC on the reliable sources noticeboard: A fake signature by a fake user with a future timestamp in an invisible comment <!-- [[User:DoNotArchiveUntil]] 18:13, 4 January 2030 (UTC) --> for the bot and a {{Pin message}} for the humanoids. –84.46.53.116 (talk) 00:53, 20 January 2020 (UTC)

• • Kmoksha, please tell us exactly what you are talking about, with a link to the "Talk" space page you want to do this on. John from Idegon (talk) 17:25, 23 January 2020 (UTC)

Thanks X201 The template you gave can be useful along with the one which I found - {{subst:Pin section}}. I can use it for my user talk page. John from Idegon I got what I was looking for. Thanks by the way. -- Kmoksha (talk) 17:46, 23 January 2020 (UTC)

creating a new wiki page

Hi,

I would like to create a new Wiki page. Could you please guide me on how I can go ahead?

Thanks — Preceding unsigned comment added by SSSLink (talk • contribs)

Hello there, SSSLink, and welcome to the Teahouse. Creating a new article from scratch is the hardest thing you can do here. So it pays to take your time, learn the basics of editing and about how to add references (see this guidance I wrote for beginners), and understanding the importance of our Notability Guidelines. I suggest before anything else, you have a go at The Wikipedia Adventure - it's interactive and quite fun - and then read Help:Your first article. We now have just over 6 million articles here, so it's important that all new ones follow the same style of layout, but THE critical thing is that the subject of your article must have been written about by reliable, published sources which will help demonstrate the topic is notable. (Ignore blogs, social media, press releases etc as they're not reliable or independent). Gather those together first and write only what those sources say (albeit using your own words to avoid copyright issues). Submit your Draft article for review and you will get feedback o whether or not it is OK. Good luck, and come back anytime if the guidance you read is in any way confusing. Good luck! Regards from the UK, Nick Moyes (talk) 16:05, 24 January 2020 (UTC)

Also, Their username indicates that they are here to promote themselves which is not allowed. They will be blocked shortly. Interstellarity (talk) 16:08, 24 January 2020 (UTC)

You can tell that from a name? —Tamfang (talk) 05:02, 27 January 2020 (UTC)

Nick, is that a template? —Tamfang (talk) 05:00, 27 January 2020 (UTC)

Hello

Hello There. I would like to know if Sify.com is a acceptable source on Wikipedia? If it is reliable can you please re-add awards to Gurbaksh Chahal page? The awards were there but someone removed them saying links are not reliable thanks in advance. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 42.106.216.13 (talk) 11:38, 25 January 2020 (UTC)

This is a news site and probably yes, it can be used as a source. Ruslik_Zero 14:59, 25 January 2020 (UTC)

The discussion about Chahal's awards is taking place at Talk:Gurbaksh_Chahal#Awards and you can't override consensus there by asking misleading questions that don't address the actual issues, and requesting editors who do not know the background to circumvent the discussion for you. --bonadea contributions talk 08:47, 26 January 2020 (UTC)

Kindle question

Could someone please direct me towards the guidelines for adding a reference to a kindle location? The usual can't work as kindle doesn't have pages, only locations. Thank you! Maryanne Cunningham (talk) 15:29, 25 January 2020 (UTC)

Hello Maryanne Cunningham. It's great to see you still here and asking some great questions. I had to think about that one for a moment, then I visited WP:KINDLE, which is a shortcut to the 'book' section on 'Citing Sources'. It helpfully suggests; "If there are no page numbers, whether in ebooks or print materials, then you can use other means of identifying the relevant section of a lengthy work, such as the chapter number or the section title."

If you are using Wikipedia:Source editor to add your citations, there's an option in the cite book dropdown window to 'show/hide extra fields' and you'll see one field called 'Chapter' that you can either add a number of a chapter title to. Does this make sense? If not, we can talk you through adding it manually. You can also insert that field if you are editing with Visual Editor, though it's a bit more work to find the right field amongst a million others. Hope you're doing OK? Regards, Nick Moyes (talk) 16:02, 25 January 2020 (UTC)

Thanks Nick Moyes. Yes, I'm still here. Maryanne Cunningham (talk) 13:46, 26 January 2020 (UTC).

Publish a biography article

May I ask for some easy and simple steps to create a biography article of my client? — Preceding unsigned comment added by EliasHossainbd (talk • contribs) 18:01, 25 January 2020 (UTC)

Before we tell you the steps, EliasHossainbd, you must overcome one hurdle impeding your progress:

1. You have a conflict of interest (COI), and must declare it on your Talk page. See: Wikipedia:Changing username/Simple--Quisqualis (talk) 18:17, 25 January 2020 (UTC)

See the the reply from DE Siegel with the 7 steps to an article.--Quisqualis (talk) 19:30, 25 January 2020 (UTC)

See also, and with some urgency Wikipedia:PAID, as you have already been asked to do on your Talk page, and comply with its mandatory requirements. If you do not you are likely to be blocked from further editing. {The poster formerly known as 87.81.230.195} 90.205.58.107 (talk) 12:57, 26 January 2020 (UTC)

long-standing consensus and 3RR

I need to leave soon, but there is an issue regarding a long-standing consensus and 3RR at National Rifle Association (see Talk:National Rifle Association#Russia connection, justification examples of Timelines' inclusion in See also). It is my understanding that an long-standing edits stay during the Discussion phase of BRD until, and if, there is a new consensus. Is that not correct? X1\ (talk) 21:37, 25 January 2020 (UTC)

At this point you are at 4RR on that article also everyone else in the discussion on the talk page agrees there is a new consensus. Please do not engage in WP:FORUMSHOP. PackMecEng (talk) 21:40, 25 January 2020 (UTC)

My understanding has been a newly challenged consensus (in this particular case, a 320 day long consensus) item stays in place while the item is being discussed; so "reverting" to that condition is restoring (not counted as a Revert) to the proper conditions for Discussion. User PackMecEng is an involved editor with an opposing viewpoint on whether the item is to remain included. It is important for me to understand, in general, if my belief in this distinction is or is not correct. Can you point me in the correct direction if this is not the best place to find this "policy" clarification? X1\ (talk) 19:30, 26 January 2020 (UTC)

Your understanding is half correct. A reversion associated with BRD is a reversion and not one of the 3RR exceptions here [[2]]. As for what version of the article should stand during the BRD cycle, that should be based on WP:consensus (and common sense). If during BRD a new consensus hasn't been formed then WP:NOCON applies and the article should go back to the last stable state. If a new consensus exists then the article can change even if the discussion is on going. Common sense should be applied if a continuation of the discussion may sway current consensus. As an example, the old consensus was A. A new local consensus has formed around B but additional editors are joining the discussion and starting to suggest option C. Even though A is no longer the consensus and B is the new current consensus, it's better to wait for additional input to see if C will be favored over B. This is particularly true in cases where the discussion very recent and it's likely additional voices will weigh in. Disclaimer - I'm an involved editor. My example was meant to be general and not meant to reflect the discussion in question. Springee (talk) 15:48, 27 January 2020 (UTC)

As presumably most readers/contributors to the Teahouse know, it is to seek outside opinions, that is why I came here. Springee is yet another involved/biased editor to the specific situation, that gave rise to a general question here from me. As I have not seen a comment from an un-involved editor, in the past few days, I will assume that implicitly I should seek my response else, maybe somewhere more specificly related to my question. X1\ (talk) 00:35, 28 January 2020 (UTC)

The fact that I said "Disclaimer - I'm an involved editor." indicated that I was an involved editor. Springee (talk) 02:40, 28 January 2020 (UTC)

Paul Frederick.

Paul Frederick. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Paul F Onyango (talk • contribs) 01:20, 26 January 2020 (UTC)

@Paul F Onyango: Welcome to Wikipedia. Did you have a question? RudolfRed (talk) 02:00, 26 January 2020 (UTC)

@Paul F Onyango:, anything to do with Paul Jones (wrestler)? {The poster formerly known as 87.81.230.195} 90.205.58.107 (talk) 13:02, 26 January 2020 (UTC)

How do you promote articles from start-class?

I saw that the article Big Boi was a start-class article, but I believe that it is a higher quality. How do I promote it or start a discussion? I use the source editor. --Minecrafter0271 (talk) 05:07, 26 January 2020 (UTC)

Welcome to the Teahouse, Minecrafter0271. Please read Wikipedia:Content assessment for an overview of the standards. In brief, only the assessment of Good articles and Featured articles requires a formal review by uninvolved editors. You can change the grade by editing the templates at the top of the article talk page. It is probably a good idea to leave a note explaining your reassessment on the article talk page. At the very least, provide your reasoning in an edit summary. Cullen³²⁸ Let's discuss it 06:04, 26 January 2020 (UTC)

Thanks. I'll try that. Cheers. --Minecrafter0271 (talk) 06:06, 26 January 2020 (UTC)

I looked over the article and think that it is a bit better than start class. However, it has too much content written in the "it was announced that" and "he revealed that" style. The article should not be a list of material from all his PR people's favorite talking points over the past two decades. The article needs much more critical assessment from people uninvolved in promoting his career, and originally written prose that accurately summarizes the full range of reliable independent sources discussing his life and his entire career. Cullen³²⁸ Let's discuss it 06:38, 26 January 2020 (UTC)

Tightened the text a bit. I agree that it can be upgraded to C-class, although quite a bit of the content is without references. David notMD (talk) 13:24, 26 January 2020 (UTC)

Who created Wikipedia?

This is just a question.I am just curious to know about the creator of this famous and most reliable web encyclopedia — Preceding unsigned comment added by Wuhan2019 (talk • contribs) 05:38, 26 January 2020 (UTC)

The founder of Wikipedia is Jimmy Wales. He still is active here; his user name is User:Jimbo Wales. --Sm8900 (talk) 05:48, 26 January 2020 (UTC)

Hi Wuhan2019 and welcome to the Teahouse! There were two co-founders: User:Jimbo Wales and Larry Sanger. There's this article about the history of Wikipedia if you're interested in learning more. For future reference, the Teahouse is for asking questions about editing Wikipedia. The reference desk is usually the place to go to ask similar questions. Clovermoss (talk) 05:51, 26 January 2020 (UTC)

how to find a author and sports person info

Thai Stick author is Peter Maguire, however another professional footballer Peter Maguire with full name Peter Jason Maguire. columbia university does not provide full details [ i may be wrong ]. i am unable to decide whether both of them are one and same. so where should i first look for authors and sports persons. Leela52452 (talk) 09:22, 26 January 2020 (UTC)

The Google Books preview of the book shows that the author is Peter H. Maguire, while, as you mentioned, the footy player is Peter Jason Maguire. --bonadea contributions talk 09:44, 26 January 2020 (UTC)

I used WP:VANISH on an old account

I misunderstood WP:VANISH. My intention was to return to a new account (with different name out of privacy reasons) editing a different set of articles (so as to avoid controversial topics). When I created a second account it got flagged as a WP:SOCK. In hindsight I should have gone for WP:CLEANSTART. So here I am with my 3rd account, with a note on my user page. How do I make sure my account doesn't get flagged by an admin in future? It would be a pity to waste my ongoing efforts of volunteering only to be blocked because of prior policy misunderstanding. BecomeFree (talk) 15:14, 26 January 2020 (UTC)

@BecomeFree: To help us answer your question, would you mind disclosing the accounts you used? This will help us review the circumstances regarding your accounts. Have you read WP:SOCK? Interstellarity (talk) 17:53, 26 January 2020 (UTC)

@Interstellarity: For privacy reasons (original account contains my name) I'd rather reveal privately to an admin or check user. Is there a mechanism for that? BecomeFree (talk) 17:56, 26 January 2020 (UTC)

@BecomeFree: You can email checkusers privately at checkuser-en-wp@wikipedia.org. Interstellarity (talk) 17:58, 26 January 2020 (UTC)

• The note on your user page says BecomeFree is your second account but here you say it is the third. Which is it? Furthermore, checkusers do not go around checking technical evidence without behavioral evidence, so I find it hard to believe you got blocked as a sockpuppet without some mischief of your part. You will have some explaining to do with the checkusers, methink.

On a side note, Wikipedia:Clean_start#Criteria would seem to ban any sockpuppetter from a clean start (since "no active sanction" refers to a person, not an account, and sock accounts never get unblocked). That does not seem intentional.

Tigraan^{Click here to contact me} 16:26, 27 January 2020 (UTC)

Third (I fixed my user page). I tried to explain the situation to an admin in the Talk page of a prior account, but they eventually stopped responding (and I just gave up). I understand that checkusers won't go probing in without an open investigation, in which case I give anyone permission to do so (open an investigation). I just don't feel like wasting my good-faith time on Wikipedia only to be abused in some future. BecomeFree (talk) 17:00, 27 January 2020 (UTC)

BecomeFree, not any kind of authority on these matters but only as a fellow editor, I think you need to get unblocked first. Otherwise, all your accounts are technically block evasions (think sockblocks are usually indefinite, with a prohibition on new account creation) and all your contributions are candidates for immediate rollback even if constructive. I suggest contacting a CU, an Arbitrator or the ArbCom via email and explaining to them that you did not intend to sock but only a clean start. If they buy your explanation, they can unblock you and add you to their list where they can see who you are. Of course, since you won't publicly disclose your previous accounts, you can't edit any articles you've previously edited, for your own good and that of all others working on those articles. Usedtobecool ☎️ 02:24, 28 January 2020 (UTC)

Adding pictures

How do you add pictures/flags. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ask ehx udnd (talk • contribs) 19:06, 26 January 2020 (UTC)

Note: This seems to be regarding Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents#Flags on 2019–20 Wuhan coronavirus outbreak. —[AlanM1(talk)]— 23:39, 26 January 2020 (UTC)

How should academic papers be used in a BLP?

Hi there! There have been some very, very long discussions on the Talk:Judith Curry page, and I think that a big part of it is centered on how academic sources should be used in a BLP. That is, if the article subject writes a paper, to what extent can we rely on it for the article? To what extend should editors use academic articles as the basis for talking about an academic's perspectives? Are there any policies on this? Some different examples have been provided, some which definitely go with secondary sources first and use academic papers sparingly, and some which have whole sections built from academic articles. Thanks! Jusadi (talk) 19:28, 26 January 2020 (UTC)

Oh. The relevant section might be WP:ALLPRIMARY: "A peer-reviewed journal article may begin by summarizing a careful selection of previously published works to place the new work in context (which is secondary material) before proceeding into a description of a novel idea (which is primary material)." Jusadi (talk) 19:36, 26 January 2020 (UTC)

Incorrect personal information

The site contains information about me personally which is incorrect. How can I best correct it? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jwoch (talk • contribs) 20:30, 26 January 2020 (UTC)

Welcome to the Teahouse, Jwoch. Please provide a link to the page and let us know what's wrong. Alternatively, you can email an administrator. I am an administrator willing to assist. Cullen³²⁸ Let's discuss it 21:15, 26 January 2020 (UTC)

Your Talk page indicates you were blocked twice in 2018; not clear if the second time was ever resolved. Is this what you are asking about? David notMD (talk) 21:17, 26 January 2020 (UTC)

If so, recent edits by 109.150.34.80 may be relevant. --David Biddulph (talk) 21:40, 26 January 2020 (UTC)

What you know may be true (from your User page: " I was works manager and project manager for the Class 155 to Class 153 conversion."), but Wikipedia requires references. You were blocked in 2018 for adding content without references, and the evidence mentioned above suggests you have recently made similar edits as IP 109.150.34.80, i.e., not logged into your account. David notMD (talk) 23:11, 26 January 2020 (UTC)

Links to some of the many previous attempts to explain to this editor the need for published reliable sources are available at WP:Administrators' noticeboard/IncidentArchive974#Editor repeatedly changing information to contradict sources. --David Biddulph (talk) 20:36, 28 January 2020 (UTC)

Wikipedia outage 26 Jan 2020

Wikipedia has announced in this tweet that there have been service outages across the xx.wikipedia.org domain, affecting multiple language versions. See also this informal reporting website, suggesting the problem has been ongoing since c.14:00 UTC today. This is likely to significantly affect many people's ability to view or edit pages at the present time. Nick Moyes (talk) 21:02, 26 January 2020 (UTC)

I experienced about two hours of very limited access in California but things have improved in the last 15 minutes. Cullen³²⁸ Let's discuss it 21:07, 26 January 2020 (UTC)

Western Europe has been hit hardest, but the Seattle area, much of California, the northeast U.S, Ontario and Israel are also affected. Cullen³²⁸ Let's discuss it 21:11, 26 January 2020 (UTC)

Yep, just coming back to life for me here in Western Europe. I was all set to blame it on Brexit, or maybe even on Rosiestep! Nick Moyes (talk) 21:21, 26 January 2020 (UTC)

Yeah, it affected me as well living in the Northeast US. Interstellarity (talk) 22:39, 26 January 2020 (UTC)

Nick Moyes, well, if it'll make people feel better, I'll take the blame, haha, but Maria Lauder has only had 9,146 page views, so it's probably not that. BTW, I experienced it, too, in California Gold Country. --Rosiestep (talk) 23:03, 26 January 2020 (UTC)

@Rosiestep: I'm surprised it's not had a higher count, so I can't blame you. Roger told me you were the person who got us to 6m articles, so congratulations from all of us here at the Teahouse! I was going to attempt to put my latest draft article out on time, but I had to get dinner for the family, so I missed the chance. Glad it was an established editor like you, though. Cheers, Nick Moyes (talk) 23:09, 26 January 2020 (UTC)

Thanks, @Nick, and for sure, family comes first! --Rosiestep (talk) 23:23, 26 January 2020 (UTC)

Publishing a (finished?) article

Hello, I recently translated a Wikipedia article from Croatian into English about Hvar Observatory. It's currently a draft, the link is: Draft:Hvar Observatory I think it's ready to be published but don't know what steps to take. I apologize if this has been covered elsewhere, there's a lot of information about editing Wikipedia and I wasn't able to find it. Do you know what I'm supposed to do now? Thank you! SonjaSonia (talk) 21:42, 26 January 2020 (UTC) :)

@SonjaSonia: Welcome to the Teahouse! Just about everything in WP has been covered somewhere, the difficulty is in finding it...

I see that you've bitten the bullet, and moved Hvar Observatory to mainspace. It looks fine.

As final piece of tidying-up, tag the redirect Draft:Hvar Observatory (NOT the article!) as WP:G7 (instructions in that link). That redirect is no longer needed.

I've de-orphaned the article by adding it as a see-also to Hvar and Hvar (city). Should it also be linked from University of Zagreb or elsewhere? I leave that up to you.

If you want to see how your new article is doing, look at this page and this one. Narky Blert (talk) 22:31, 27 January 2020 (UTC)

Thank you very much! I'll be sure from now on to de-orphan new articles and other steps you listed. SonjaSonia (talk) 03:38, 28 January 2020 (UTC)

Biographical Article edited by Subject

I'm interested in how I should handle the latest edit to Jakov Sedlar (by IP address 2.204.251.54)? It appears that the subject of the article is removing criticism from the article, but the sources for the criticism are in Croatian, and so I can't verify them myself. Can you point me to the relevant wikipedia policies for this situation? Thanks! Perokema (talk) 22:20, 26 January 2020 (UTC)

Perokema Hello and welcome to the Teahouse. The relevant policy would be the autobiography policy. Article subjects should avoid directly editing the article about themselves; instead, they may make formal edit requests on the article talk page. This user should be encouraged to do that. If they don't respond to your concerns, you may visit WP:COIN to bring up the matter. 331dot (talk) 22:21, 26 January 2020 (UTC)

Thanks, that's very helpful! Perokema (talk) 22:27, 26 January 2020 (UTC)

Can I withdraw my nomination for a move?

I have proposed to move Impeachment inquiry against Donald Trump to Impeachment process against Donald Trump. There are all opposing views, but discussion has been open for less then a week. Would I be allowed to close the discussion and withdraw the nomination under these circumstances? I use source editor. --Minecrafter0271 (talk) 23:09, 26 January 2020 (UTC)

Minecrafter0271, yes you can. A nominator can withdraw their nomination, as long as the there has been no support, and the result is obvious. The WP:SNOWball clause would apply. ~~ OxonAlex - talk 17:03, 27 January 2020 (UTC)

@OxonAlex: Thanks. I wasn't sure because discussion was open for less than a week. Cheers! --Minecrafter0271 (talk) 17:06, 27 January 2020 (UTC)

Follow-up to Report User

190.38.94.242 make edit to list in Korean Drama page to 3 list.. I think we just to have 1 list not 3 list.. Michaelelijahtanuwijaya (talk) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Michaelelijahtanuwijaya (talk • contribs) 23:12, 26 January 2020 (UTC)

The place for discussion of changes to the article is Talk:Korean drama. Also, please note that your signature needs to include links per WP:SIGLINK; if you have tried to customise your signature at Special:Preferences you may have mistakenly checked the box labelled "Treat the above as wiki markup". --David Biddulph (talk) 23:21, 26 January 2020 (UTC)

Follow-up to Report Annoying User

190.38.94.242 make edit to list in Korean Drama page to 3 list.. I think we just to have 1 list not 3 list.. Michaelelijahtanuwijaya (talk)

I replied above, & you didn't need to start a new section. I'm glad that you've sorted out the links in your signature, but it is helpful if you include a timetag, which is the default when you use 4 tildes or the signature icon on the edit toolbar; if in doubt, reset your preferences to default if you've failed in an attempt to customise it. --David Biddulph (talk) 23:42, 26 January 2020 (UTC)

Follow-up to i need an advice for Draft:Martin Fayomi

I have made up some edits for this article, I hope it meets the criteria.Goldie19 (talk) 00:02, 27 January 2020 (UTC)

How to find Google Scholar id?

{{Google Scholar id}} requires |id=. Where can it be found? "This parameter will be the ID string used in the URL at Google Scholar." The example in the template documentation, Yoelle Maarek, has id=EeTd0CYAAAAJ, and works nicely. However, I cannot for the life of me see where that string comes from.

I want to link properly to Tobias Capwell, who is currently being nurtured in a sandbox. I may be missing something obvious, but cannot find his |id=; which means I cannot get useful statistics like those on the right-hand side of "Yoelle Maarek publications indexed by Google Scholar".

(Please don't suggest that I edit Wikidata unless it's essential. I would marginally prefer to perform gastric surgery on myself using unwashed kitchen cutlery.) Narky Blert (talk) 00:07, 27 January 2020 (UTC)

Narky Blert It does seem to come from the value of the user= parameter in the "citations" URL. In the example you give for Yoelle Maarek, Teahouse publications indexed by Google Scholar also works. I'm guessing there was a renumbering at some point, since the existing link (id EeTd0CYAAAAJ) just redirects to the current one (foccT34AAAAJ).

It appears that one must have registered a "profile" with Google Scholar in order to get one of these ids. If I search for Albert Einstein, the top of the listing has a link under the heading "User profiles for Albert Einstein" that points to the profile here with the id qc6CJjYAAAAJ. A search for Tobias Capwell doesn't have such a profile link at the top. I'm not clear on whether you can create one for them or not. Perhaps someone more familiar with GS will comment. —[AlanM1(talk)]— 00:51, 27 January 2020 (UTC)

Very frustrating. There are easy-to-use templates for non-WP:RS sites like Discogs and IMDB which make it childsplay to add them as WP:ELs; but GS should be a better site for a Publications or EL link than such as those, and be simple to link to. Narky Blert (talk) 01:04, 27 January 2020 (UTC)

@Narky Blert: It's more of an issue with how GS works. There is a template for creating the search link for people without profiles:

{{Google scholar|"Tobias Capwell"|Tobias Capwell publications indexed by Google Scholar}}

which renders:

Tobias Capwell publications indexed by Google Scholar

This can produce off-topic results if there are others with the same name. It's not clear whether the hits for "T Capwell" have "Tobias Capwell" in the underlying data and that was matched, or it searches for "T Capwell" as well (which could produce a lot more false hits for common last names). —[AlanM1(talk)]— 03:45, 27 January 2020 (UTC)

@AlanM1: TY, that looks good. Fortunately, my man has both a rare given name and a rare surname, so there should be few if any false positives. If I can't get his h-index, so it goes. Still, it would be nice to use his id if he has one (does GS really demand that you make an acct to get one?). Narky Blert (talk) 04:35, 27 January 2020 (UTC)

"Related Articles" question

Please tell me why some titles of "Related Articles" links at the bottom of a article sometimes differ from the title of the linked article. How can that error be corrected? Thanks/ — Preceding unsigned comment added by Palisades1 (talk • contribs) 01:35, 27 January 2020 (UTC)

@Palisades1: Can you give an example of such a page? It may be due to a piped link or a redirect. Unless it is going to a wrong page, it may not be an error that needs fixing. RudolfRed (talk) 02:10, 27 January 2020 (UTC)

@Palisades1: Some articles use Wikipedia:Page name#Changing the displayed title (often via a template) to change how the title is displayed at top of the article, e.g. changing IPhone to iPhone. This does not affect "Related articles" which always shows the real title IPhone like searches and categories. The real title cannot start with a lowercase letter. We need an example to see whether this is what you mean. PrimeHunter (talk) 15:23, 27 January 2020 (UTC)

Wiki Commons and Sandbox

Hi,

I want to write wiki articles but first want to learn and practice. I have a few questions.

(1) Is sandbox private or can everyone view them, edit, delete, etc? If the sandbox is not private, is there a platform on the wiki that is (private for practice only)?

(2) It seems as though I made a few wiki commons here. It seems as though they are published or copyrighted? For all intents and purposes, I don't want them copyrighted (I don't own the images) nor do I want them published (for practice only). How can I change that? Can I delete them or move them, etc? I'm doing this because I want to be able to make infoboxes' on the wiki for practice, but it seemed to require that a [wiki] common be made first to add a file name (image,) only that I don't want commons as explained above.

Thank you,

Turk Hill — Preceding unsigned comment added by TurkHill (talk • contribs) 02:27, 27 January 2020 (UTC)

@TurkHill: There is no place private on Wikipedia, all pages are available to all users. Your sandbox is the best place to practice, it is unlikely to be disturbed by others unless you post copyright violations (for example) which is not allowed anywhere on Wikipedia. For the uploads on Commons, you should not have marked then as your own work. There is likely a tag you can place to have the files removed, but I am not sure what it is (someone else will likely be along shortly to address that. RudolfRed (talk) 02:35, 27 January 2020 (UTC)

@TurkHill: If you don't want to save it on Wikipedia, you might consider using a plain text editor on your computer to edit and store a local copy of the article you are working on. You can then copy and paste it into your sandbox, play with it there, using Preview to see how it looks without saving it (don't click Publish). Copy and paste it back to your local text editor and save it there while you continue to work on it. This will allow you to work on a draft that may contain content that will not be allowed if saved to Wikipedia, even in your sandbox, like copyrighted material that you are carefully rephrasing so it will look nothing like the original. —[AlanM1(talk)]— 12:23, 27 January 2020 (UTC)

Thank you. I will use the text editor. That sounds like a good solution. — Preceding unsigned comment added by TurkHill (talk • contribs) 16:16, 27 January 2020 (UTC)

How do you give a citation a proper title?

I am having an issue giving citations in the endorsement section for Dan Lipinski. The article is linked here. Thanks so much in advance for any help! 2020 United States House of Representatives elections in Illinois#District 3 — Preceding unsigned comment added by TMFry (talk • contribs) 02:47, 27 January 2020 (UTC)

@TMFry: You were nearly there! I've fleshed out the first four of the citations in your recent edit. You should be able to see what I've done: added a reference name (only needed if it's used more than once), a title from the webpage, the website name, and the access date. That's about all you need, really. See {{cite web}}. Knowing that, you should be able to tidy up the other citations in that article if you feel so inclined. For full, if not overfull, instructions, see WP:CITATIONS.

BTW, if you're linking to a WP article, you don't need to post the full URL here. 2020 United States House of Representatives elections in Illinois#District 3 does the same job, and looks tidier. (The # points to a section; it isn't needed if you're linking to the whole article.)

Oh, and always sign your posts on talk pages like this one with four tildes (~) (see WP:SIGN). It makes it a lot easier to know who we're talking to! Yrs, Narky Blert (talk) 04:19, 27 January 2020 (UTC)

How can I Contribute content or edit content in Wikipedia?

I want to contribute content and edit pre-exist content on Wikipedia. What is the prescribed procedure for that? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 1.6.111.155 (talk) 06:43, 27 January 2020 (UTC)

@1.6.111.155: you can edit anything, with the exception of protected pages. I recommend that you help patrol for vandalism, fix typos and grammar, and more. Take a look at the introduction for more information. Also, since you are an IP, I recommend making an account. LPS and MLP Fan (Littlest Pet Shop) (My Little Pony) 06:53, 27 January 2020 (UTC)

Insert a Table

What's the simplest way to copy and paste an Excel table? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Richard Guldin (talk • contribs) 13:12, 27 January 2020 (UTC)

There are suggestions at Wikipedia:Tools#Excel. I don't know which ones work. --David Biddulph (talk) 13:48, 27 January 2020 (UTC)

User:Richard Guldin - Try https://tools.wmflabs.org/excel2wiki/index.php . Robert McClenon (talk) 16:46, 27 January 2020 (UTC)

@Richard Guldin: That's good advice from Robert McClenon. I've used that tool with some quite complex tables and it works fine. I advise testing any new table in your own personal sandbox, rather then messing up a live article. Nick Moyes (talk) 17:06, 27 January 2020 (UTC)

I use the Preview feature to view the table in the target document before publishing. Robert McClenon (talk) 17:14, 27 January 2020 (UTC)

Speedy delete

How to speedily delete existing files (own) on the wiki commons page. Is there a quick way to do this? For example, if one uploaded a picture onto wiki commons and marked it as copyrighted when not (a mistake only intended for practice) can it be removed or deleted, and how to do this?

Thank you TurkHill — Preceding unsigned comment added by TurkHill (talk • contribs) 16:15, 27 January 2020 (UTC)

@TurkHill: At commons, you can add {{SD|G7}} to the file's page, (see commons:project:csd) to request deletion of a file, if you uploaded it, and it hasn't been uploaded for a long time - generally about a week or so. Above this, unless it was an obvious test, it has to go to commons:project:Deletion requests. ~~ OxonAlex - talk 16:24, 27 January 2020 (UTC)

Borax

Hello I was doing a chemistry set and made some crystal sodium tetraborate. And I was just wondering how I can get pure elemental boron using household means? UB Blacephalon (talk) 16:52, 27 January 2020 (UTC)

@Blacephalon: This is a forum for asking questions related to Wikipedia. I'm afraid if you have questions of a general nature not related to contributing to or utilizing Wikipedia, you will have to find another place to seek an answer. GMG^talk 16:59, 27 January 2020 (UTC)

(edit conflict) Hello, Blacephalon. I'm afraid the Teahouse is only equipped to help people who are having practical difficulties editing this encyclopaedia. We're not equipped to help you synthesise chemical elements, I'm afraid. Take look at our article on Boron, or try a browser search. Don't blow yourself up, though. Nick Moyes (talk) 17:02, 27 January 2020 (UTC)

User:Blacephalon - Try Reference Desk (Science). User:Nick Moyes - He isn't trying to synthesize an element (and boron is relatively rare because it isn't produced by either big bang nucleosynthesis or red giant nucleosynthesis). He is only asking how to purify boron. I concur with the advice not to blow oneself up. That is why I went into information technology fifty years ago rather than into chemistry when I had a degree in chemistry. Robert McClenon (talk) 17:20, 27 January 2020 (UTC)

Yes, I'm not trying to blow myself to pieces. However I've tried asking on the boron page and no answer. I've tried looking it up and it says to put in HCl but I don't have that and I don't know if it being a crystal form of it makes a difference. That's why I'm ask the Teahouse. UB Blacephalon (talk) 19:15, 27 January 2020 (UTC)

Answered on OP's Talk Page. Narky Blert (talk) 22:04, 27 January 2020 (UTC)

Writing on Draft:Franziska Meissner-Diemer

Hello, I was creating a new article on Draft:Franziska Meissner-Diemer. I found the subject in Wikiproject:Women in Red. I thought that since the subject is in a wikiproject's list, it must be satisfying Wikipedia's notability guidelines. But I recently learned from an administrator, that it is not so. And, now I'm also finding difficulty in searching for its references. I could only find two references so far. One of them is a mirror site of wikipedia. another one is the Google search result only. I did find a wikiarticle on the subject in another language, but that too doesn't cite any reference. What should I do now? Should I tag the draft article for deletion since I don't think I would be able to find any reference ? Thanks in advance. Lightbluerain (talk) 17:49, 27 January 2020 (UTC)

Hey Lightbluerain. It looks like the person is on that list because there is a German article for her but no English article. You may try searching for the name variation they use there. Alternatively, the subject may be notable, but we may only be able to write an article if we can get help from someone who can read the German sources. GMG^talk 17:53, 27 January 2020 (UTC)

Ok. So, where can we find that German reader? Or, should i submit the draft for review after translating the German article (with the help of google translate and then proofread it) and then place the 'unreferenced' tag on it? Lightbluerain (talk) 18:02, 27 January 2020 (UTC)

Also, I did try searching for the name variations but I still couldn't find any reference in English. And, I don't understand German. Lightbluerain (talk) 18:05, 27 January 2020 (UTC)

Well Lightbluerain, there's longstanding consensus that we ought not be using machine translation to generate Wikipedia articles. It's fairly unpredictable and impossible to check if we don't have a human speaker reviewing the content. Umm...I know Sandstein is a German speaker. Maybe they can recommend someone they know who is active in German to English translation and might be willing to help out. GMG^talk 18:06, 27 January 2020 (UTC)

GreenMeansGo, sure, I can help out if needed. The de: article has links to coverage of Franziska Meissner-Diemer in two scholarly biographical dictionaries, that alone should make her notability quite clear. DeepL will produce an acceptable working translation of sources that can be used for writing the article. Sandstein 18:16, 27 January 2020 (UTC)

Please correct me, if I'm wrong, but AFAIK "listed on WIR" can mean "WikiData exists" (WD, handled by bots), or "manually added" (CS). e.g., I added a journalist (Ruin), a scientist (also AU), and a filmmaker (feminist). At least for the AU blogger "notability" is unclear. –84.46.53.84 (talk) 00:23, 28 January 2020 (UTC)

Birth Certificate Reference

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marshall_Rosenberg

How do I cite Rosenberg's birth certificate? I have an official paper copy. Can I upload it so others can see it?

Someone wrote "His parents were Jean (Weiner)[clarification needed] Rosenberg..." The spelling of Weiner here is correct. How do I provide that clarification (which I also got from his birth certificate)? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Danielrona (talk • contribs) 18:47, 27 January 2020 (UTC)

@Danielrona: hi there. I am afraid that a birth certificate is a primary reference, so doesn't meet our requirements at Wikipedia:Reliable sources. If you want to clarify their name, then it is best to find a different online source, then use Help:Citing to add the reference to the article. If you need anymore help, please return or contact me directly on my talk page. regards, Willbb234^Talk (please {{ping}} me in replies) 20:56, 27 January 2020 (UTC)

Uploading images of copyrighted artwork - with the artist's permission?

Hello! I am trying to upload images of an artist's work, and I have the artist's permission to do so, to Wikimedia Commons. I know we can make it clear that this is legit via OTRS - but my question is about the image itself. What is the right way to do this, so it's clear that the image itself is fine to upload via CC license, but that the copyrighted artistic image depicted in it is still under the copyright of the artist who created it? — Preceding unsigned comment added by GBGB333 (talk • contribs) 19:20, 27 January 2020 (UTC)

@GBGB333: hi there. Copyright is always a tough one to understand. If the artist has agreed to allow the image to be added to Wikimedia Commons, then they are stopping their copyright claim over the image; anything added to Wikimedia Commons is (sometimes under certain restrictions) available for others to use. Effectively, the image cannot be added to Wikimedia Commons with it continuing to be under the copyright of the artist who created it. It would probably be best to clarify this with the folks over at the Wikimedia Commons Help Desk Regards, Willbb234^Talk (please {{ping}} me in replies) 20:51, 27 January 2020 (UTC)

Hello, GBGB333. The answer above is not accurate. The creator of contemporary images uploaded to Wikimedia Commons retains copyright unless they explicitly disavow copyright. However, the acceptable Creative Commons licenses are very broad and sweeping, and the artist should understand the license thoroughly. Any Commons image can be used by anyone for any purpose without permission, and that includes profit making ventures. The only restriction is that the image must be attributed to its author/creator if the specific license requires that. To be clear, Creative Commons licenses do not eliminate the underlying copyright. Instead, they allow very broad usage of the image. Cullen³²⁸ Let's discuss it 21:23, 27 January 2020 (UTC)

Yes, Cullen is correct. A free license like Creative Commons does not remove the copyright, but only specifies the terms under which others may reuse and remix the content. Obviously, you couldn't specify usage terms if you didn't control the copyright, but this is a common misconception nonetheless.

@GBGB333: If the artist would like to release content under a free license then they can do so by following the instructions at c:COM:CONSENT. This email should come directly from the copyright holder, and should specify exactly what content they are releasing, and under what license. GMG^talk 21:27, 27 January 2020 (UTC)

Thanks, striked answer, Willbb234^Talk (please {{ping}} me in replies) 21:37, 27 January 2020 (UTC)

time-limit on welcoming committee?

hello! i was wondering if maybe there was a "time limit" on welcoming new editors? i've noticed several redlinks on editors' talk pages, but then realise their last edits were in 2009. should i refrain from welcoming such users?--🐦DrWho42 (🔨) 20:33, 27 January 2020 (UTC)

@DoctorWho42: hi there. If their last edit was from 2009, then it's best not to; it just wastes your time. It's recommended that one should welcome editors once they have made an edit (this shows that they want to edit Wikipedia), usually within a week or so, then you can welcome users with the 'Belated Welcome' template through Twinkle. Regards, Willbb234^Talk (please {{ping}} me in replies) 20:36, 27 January 2020 (UTC)

To add, I am guessing if they haven't edited in less than 1 or 2 months, then a welcome isn't worth it. I don't believe there is a formal "time limit" as such, but 1 or 2 months is probably sufficient. Willbb234^Talk (please {{ping}} me in replies) 20:38, 27 January 2020 (UTC)

If there's any other business on a not yet existing talk page, e.g., a warning level 1, adding a welcome can make sense. Intentionally no welcome can also make sense. –84.46.53.84 (talk) 00:33, 28 January 2020 (UTC)

Supporting Notability

I specifically looked up "turst" (demonic hunter) and was grateful to find a separate entry. I then noted it was of questionable notability, and I understand that this has more criteria than merely user numbers.

I would however like to add to the discussion of notability. I believe the entry could be usefully expanded, and I may be writing a print article discussing its relationship to "thurs" and similar Germanic mythical creatures, how these relate to the Wild Hunt and their presence in place names and subsequent literature.

Thank you Tallis Harrill — Preceding unsigned comment added by Falkenna (talk • contribs) 20:43, 27 January 2020 (UTC)

Türst was tagged as having no references back in 2010 and that is still true. Wikipedia frowns on people citing their own published work. David notMD (talk) 21:02, 27 January 2020 (UTC)

At least some of the info is in one of the two external links in the article, but I suspect most of this is mainly found in printed sources. --bonadea contributions talk 21:24, 27 January 2020 (UTC)

If your article gets published by a reputable publisher, Falkenna, (with a reputation for fact-checking and editorial control), then it may be cited in a Wikipedia article. You are discouraged from citing it yourself, and should make an {{edit request}}, as usual for editors with a conflict of interest. --ColinFine (talk) 22:58, 27 January 2020 (UTC)

thank you

thank you — Preceding unsigned comment added by John BG Johnson (talk • contribs) 21:31, 27 January 2020 (UTC)

John BG Johnson, Howdy hello, and welcome the Teahouse! Not sure what you're thanking us for, but you're welcome. Do you have any particular questions or issues that we can help ya out with? CaptainEek ^{Edits Ho Cap'n!}⚓ 21:43, 27 January 2020 (UTC)

About a Brand Page

Hello, I would like to create a page for a fashion brand. Could you help me to create it without been an advertising? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Syrouk (talk • contribs) 21:40, 27 January 2020 (UTC)

Syrouk Hello and welcome to the Teahouse. You have already been given some good advice by Theroadislong. Are you associated with this brand? 331dot (talk) 22:30, 27 January 2020 (UTC)

Yes I am the designer of this brand. The innovation of this brand is that it has product patent about a product. Theroadislong advise me that the page look like an advertisement. Could you help me or write about the brand? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Syrouk (talk • contribs) 22:39, 27 January 2020 (UTC)

Hello, Syrouk. Thank you for declaring your conflict of interest. Your draft is written in a promotional, advertising style that violates our core content policy called the neutral point of view. The draft fails to show that your company meets Wikipedia:Notability (organizations and companies). It cannot be approved until these issues are fully resolved. Cullen³²⁸ Let's discuss it 23:01, 27 January 2020 (UTC)

Hello again! I understand about the style. Could you help correct the style or could you write about this brand? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Syrouk (talk • contribs) 23:06, 27 January 2020 (UTC)

The question you need to ask, Syrouk, is which people, wholly unconnected with Constasy, and unprompted by Constasy, have chosen to write at length about Constasy, and been published somewhere with a reputation for editorial control and fact-checking? If the answer is "none", then you should stop working on this, as it is a waste of your, and our time, since the brand is not yet notable. If there are two or three such places (which don't have to be in English, though if there are English sources, this is preferred), throw away all the text you have written, and start again, limiting yourself to what those sources say about your brand. Remember, Wikipedia is basically not interested in what you say or want to say about it: it is only interested in what those independent people have said about it. --ColinFine (talk) 23:08, 27 January 2020 (UTC)

Hello again, Syrouk. No, I am not going to write about your brand/company because I see no evidence that it is notable. It is your obligation to convince experienced, uninvolved editors that it is notable, by providing links to the type of coverage that ColinFine describes above. Cullen³²⁸ Let's discuss it 23:13, 27 January 2020 (UTC)

This links are from independent people and magazines

https://www.yes-i-am.gr/fashion/constasy-reveal-who-you-are

https://www.womantoc.gr/made-in-greece/article/ta-stilata-aksesouar-tis-constasy-eksagoun-ti-thalpori-mexri-ti-finlandia

https://www.savoirville.gr/constasy/

https://elle.gr/moda/to-glam-axesouar-pou-theloume-stin-syllogi-mas/ — Preceding unsigned comment added by Syrouk (talk • contribs) 23:17, 27 January 2020 (UTC)

What’s your opinion about the links? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Syrouk (talk • contribs) 23:26, 27 January 2020 (UTC)

Interviews and press releases are of no use in demonstrating notability. --David Biddulph (talk) 23:31, 27 January 2020 (UTC)

• Syrouk, I think that the best thing for you to do is to concentrate your efforts to publicize your brand in a place where that is permitted, like social media. Wikipedia is not a place for businesses to tell the world about themselves. 331dot (talk) 00:27, 28 January 2020 (UTC)
  • Syrouk, those are highly promotional articles that show every sign of being generated by press releases and public relations activities. Cullen³²⁸ Let's discuss it 01:54, 28 January 2020 (UTC)

Old Talk Page Comments Violating Wikipedia Guidelines

For people's comments on Talk pages that violate Talk page guidelines (e.g. making it a forum, spamming, etc.) that are extremely old (past 2012), what should I do with those comments? Am I allowed to remove them? Or should I leave them there? Thissecretperson (talk) 22:22, 27 January 2020 (UTC)

Thissecretperson Hello and welcome to the Teahouse. It's difficult to advise you without knowing the page involved or at least what guidelines are being violated. 331dot (talk) 22:28, 27 January 2020 (UTC)

331dot I mean these types of comments in general/as a whole; I'm not referring to certain comments on certain talk pages. But if needed, I can provide an example of such comments: the second comment without a header, for instance, posted something that doesn't help the article, it just provides a personal experience and makes the talk page a forum. The comment was posted in 2011, however; what would I do for comments like those? Thissecretperson (talk) 22:34, 27 January 2020 (UTC)

Hello, Thissecretperson. I routinely delete talk page comments like that with an edit summary of "not a forum". I encourage you to do so as well if the comment has nothing to do with improving the article. Cullen³²⁸ Let's discuss it 22:51, 27 January 2020 (UTC)

Great! Thank you both for the clarity. Thissecretperson (talk) 23:07, 27 January 2020 (UTC)

Caveat, anybody trying to police "my" talk page (logged-in or otherwise) without compelling reasons could be in trouble. –84.46.53.84 (talk) 00:40, 28 January 2020 (UTC)

Article: Hassan Rouhani

The article on Hassan Rouhani indicates that he was preceded by Mahmoud Anmadinejad and succeeded by Nicolas Maduro (in fact box on the right side of the page. It also indicates that he was in office 3 August 2013-17 September 2016. The main article indicates that he was reelected in 2017. I have no idea how Maduro appeared in his info box and no idea what to replace it with if removed. As a locked living person item, I do not believe I can edit it.

I don't know who can correct, but respectfully request that someone address the issue.Hassan_Rouhani — Preceding unsigned comment added by Plainreader (talk • contribs) 00:08, 28 January 2020 (UTC)

The capacity in which the infobox gives those dates & that succession is as "Secretary General of the Non-Aligned Movement". Do you have sources that say that the information given is incorrect? --David Biddulph (talk) 00:16, 28 January 2020 (UTC)

Our article Non-Aligned Movement also reports that Rouhani served in that role and that he was followed by Maduro. The current head of that group is Ilham Aliyev. Cullen³²⁸ Let's discuss it 00:41, 28 January 2020 (UTC)

hi i posted an article about 8 weeks ago. It hasn't been published yet. Everything's confusing and looks the same. Can someone please tell me?

The post i did is for a site i'm on called Streamavid. That's also the name of the wikipedia post. I see it in my 'contributions'. I received an email saying it will take up to 8 weeks to review. The page isn't live I dont think. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Nameuser22222 (talk • contribs) 00:24, 28 January 2020 (UTC)

Nameuser22222 Hello and welcome to the Teahouse. You had edited your user talk page, which is not article space, but a place for users to communicate with you. Unfortunately, I had to delete your text as it was blatantly promotional in nature. Wikipedia is not a place to merely tell about something; Wikipedia summarizes what independent reliable sources state about article subjects that meet Wikipedia's special definition of notability. If you are associated with the subject, it is a conflict of interest and possibly a paid editing relationship. Please review those policies. I would suggest that you read Your First Article and use the new user tutorial to get a better idea of what Wikipedia is, how it works, and what is expected of new articles. You can then create and submit a draft for an independent review using Articles for Creation. 331dot (talk) 00:31, 28 January 2020 (UTC)

Draft:Streamavid was declined in November. The reasons for it being declined were given on the draft page and at User talk:Streamavid. --David Biddulph (talk) 00:34, 28 January 2020 (UTC)

Reference to wikipages in a different language.

Hello all,

I'm attempting to translate my first wikipage from English to Spanish and Portuguese. I notice that there are many WikiLinks that exist only in the English Version. Shall I keep the existing links to the English Wikipedia or should I just remove the links?

How does one link a Spanish Wikipage to an english wikilink?

Thanks, --Coel Jo (talk) 01:30, 28 January 2020 (UTC)

Hello Coel Jo. Sources do not have to be in the same language as the article, although it's vastly preferable. If you cannot find good sources in the language of an article, you can keep the original sources.--Quisqualis (talk) 05:41, 28 January 2020 (UTC)

@Quisqualis: I believe that the OP was asking not about sources but about wikilinks. The enwiki guide about how to provide a wikilink to an article in another language's Wikipedia is at Help:Interlanguage links. From the language links in the left-hand toolbar, it appears that the eswiki equivalent of that help page is at es:Ayuda:Enlace interlingüístico. --David Biddulph (talk) 09:07, 28 January 2020 (UTC)

@Coel Jo: Since you're editing pages on Spanish and Portugues Wikipedia, help desks on those wikis will be a better place to get specific advice that applies to pages there. —[AlanM1(talk)]— 17:25, 28 January 2020 (UTC)

Parks

Should I make articles on the parks near me? These are smaller city parks. Is this notable? I've checked and no articles exist. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Drewpiter (talk • contribs) 01:47, 28 January 2020 (UTC)

Hello, Drewpiter. It is not the size of the park that is important. The issue is whether or not the park has received significant coverage in reliable, independent sources. That coverage should not be run-of-the-mill, but genuine in-depth coverage. If so, a separate article may be appropriate. If not, perhaps the information can be included in a "Parks" section of the article about the city. Cullen³²⁸ Let's discuss it 02:02, 28 January 2020 (UTC)

which source should i refer original or derived ?

http://www.wqow.com/story/18975219/arizona-man-killed-in-accident-on-i-94 ~ Van's Warped Tour 2012 Zach Booher pronounced dead, however the article mentions https://web.archive.org/web/20120712014248/http://www.wqow.com/story/18975219/arizona-man-killed-in-accident-on-i-94 ~ report from news station WQOW, the source is found in archive.org. should i both give as refer ? in similar situations is it correct to refer both of them ? Leela52452 (talk) 02:52, 28 January 2020 (UTC)

Hello Leela52452 and welcome to the Teahouse. For non-contentious material, a single source is adequate. Archived sources are less prone to link rot.--Quisqualis (talk) 05:34, 28 January 2020 (UTC)

please excuse copy pasting messed up my query, the correct hyperlink which refers to archive version is https://www.phoenixnewtimes.com/music/zach-booher-of-pop-punk-band-while-were-up-killed-in-car-accident-6607576 ~ "Van's Warped Tour 2012 Zach Booher pronounced dead" once again sorry, i will read and make notes about link rot Leela52452 (talk) 05:59, 28 January 2020 (UTC)

Hi Leela52452, An archived hyperlink will always begin with "https://web.archive.org", so the New Times link you just posted is not actually an archived link. It's quite good enough for now, though. There is a Wikipedia bot that I believe fixes rotten links: InternetArchiveBot.--Quisqualis (talk) 07:26, 28 January 2020 (UTC)

Dmitry Orlov (banker)

I'd appreciate it if anybody can tell me what's yet to be done to remove 'multiple issues' and 'tone' tags from the article. Thanks, --VLu (talk) 05:09, 28 January 2020 (UTC)

It is written as a list of events. A reader might wonder if the article sources consist of a series of PR announcements. Is there no in-depth coverage of Orlov? Who did he interact with? What world events influenced him and his career? How is the world different due to his actions?--Quisqualis (talk) 05:30, 28 January 2020 (UTC)

VLu I'm letting the system know about my post above.--Quisqualis (talk) 05:32, 28 January 2020 (UTC)

Need to create a page for Noni

Dear Sir/madam,

Is it possible to create a Wiki page for Noni manufactured and processed by a specific vendor for commercial use? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Totempole245 (talk • contribs) 08:14, 28 January 2020 (UTC)

Welcome to the Teahouse, Totempole245. The simple answer is No. It will not be possible. You must be referring to Draft:Amrith Noni, and this would simply be promotion and unsubstantiated pushing of a herbal remedy as a genuine medicine. Until a medicinal product has been scientifically reviewed and proven to be efficacious in every way (i.e. it works), there will not be a page about it here. We have enhanced requirements for medicines (see WP:MEDREF). Sorry to be the bearer of bad news - but this is an encyclopaedia, not a place to highlight dubious products and herbal remedies. I do however commend you for including the FDA warning letter about false claims associated with this product. Unless the product itself starts killing people, and reliable sources start to write about the concerns over it, it would seem inappropriate to highlight its existence here, and there is no "need" to have a page about it here. (Please remember to sign your posts on talk pages by typing four keyboard tildes like this: ~~~~.) Kind regards, Nick Moyes (talk) 10:43, 28 January 2020 (UTC)

If there is evidence published in reputable science journals that Noni has health benefits, that information should be added to the Morinda citrifolia article rather than to noni grown in a specific place or by a specific company or processed in a specific way. Noni has been promoted worldwide as having health benefits. There are hundreds of articles in the scientific literature. HOWEVER, there are only a handful of published clinical trials - for different indications - and no published meta-analyses or systematic reviews. None of the claims mentioned in your draft ("Arthritis, Allergy, Asthma, high blood pressure, Cancer, Cold, Psoriasis, Indigestion, Hairfall, Recurrent head pain, Heart diseases, Urinary infections, low immunity and menstruation disorders in women.") are supported by the existing literature. David notMD (talk) 12:24, 28 January 2020 (UTC)

Kanva Souharda Credit Co-operative Society limited

Dear Sir,

I have created a page in the above mentioned subject line, which highlights a huge fraud of a ponzi scheme by a well known entrepreneur. He has cheated thousands of pensiones, gullible investors in the pretext of providing high interests on deposits. Is such a page permissible in the interest of investors in Bengaluru. This is a 500 crores (70,100,000 USD). Please advise. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Vijaykumar245 (talk • contribs) 11:11, 28 January 2020 (UTC)

Vijaykumar245 Hello and welcome to the Teahouse. You have submitted your draft for review. You will need to be patient, but it probably will not be accepted at this time, as it lacks the correct formatting and has others issues. I would suggest that you review Your First Article and use the new user tutorial to learn more about how Wikipedia works and what is expected of new articles. You should also review the Biographies of Living Persons policy; we must be very careful with how living people are written about. We cannot say someone committed a crime, for example, unless the matter has been heard by the legal system of your country and adjudicated.

The subject certainly seems like it could be notable- but Wikipedia is not concerned with helping investors or promoting any cause. That's what social media is for. 331dot (talk) 11:25, 28 January 2020 (UTC)

how to make and add an audio file

I've spent a long time unsuccessfully looking for help here and on commons.wikimedia.org. Help:Creation_and_usage_of_media_files#Audio sounds like the right place to find info, but it's written in a way that doesn't help even experienced editors. Nowhere does it say how to make a recording. Perhaps this is meant with "For encoding to Ogg Vorbis", but that is incomprehensible to most users and it links to http://wiki.hydrogenaudio.org/index.php?title=Recommended_Ogg_Vorbis which is even less user friendly and doesn't even mention Android. --Espoo (talk) 11:21, 28 January 2020 (UTC)

@Espoo: Commons works with audio more, and their pages are a bit more helpful - Commons:Project:Audio ~~ OxonAlex - talk 12:39, 28 January 2020 (UTC)

how to fix id:Vonny Cornelia on Putri Bidadari

wikilink showing as id:Vonny Cornelia. should i remove it ? Leela52452 (talk) 13:04, 28 January 2020 (UTC)

In the time of my post, you don't need to fix it. It is already in the right place, as it identify id:Vonny Cornelia to Vonny Cornelia by now. Somebody might have fixed it. — Preceding unsigned comment added by DrifAssault (talk • contribs) 14:00, 28 January 2020 (UTC)

for me it did not changed. perhaps i am viewing old version. id:Vonny Cornelia shows content in foreign language, not english. in order to show english content, perhaps we have to use [[Vonny Cornellya]]. i have just observed that are other wikilinks with similar code. Leela52452 (talk) 01:44, 29 January 2020 (UTC)

Edit removed from John Altobelli page.

On January 27th, I corrected incorrect information on John Altobelli's wiki page. Someone had edited to say he was the son of Joe Altobelli, former MLB player and manager. There was an article that I linked that said he wasn't, a link that featured a statement from Joe's former team that John was not related. I noticed that link and my edit have both been deleted, and I request clarification as to why. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sportsfan1976 (talk • contribs) 13:22, 28 January 2020 (UTC)

Sportsfan1976 Hello and welcome to the Teahouse. In looking at the edit history of the article, I'm not entirely certain why it was removed, as there has been a lot of edits to that article. The best way for you to find out would be to post an inquiry on the article talk page. 331dot (talk) 14:02, 28 January 2020 (UTC)

Hello Sportsfan1976, it was removed in this edit. The reason given was "I don't see how this is relevant". I think the point is that the issue was too minor to deserve inclusion. Being true or verified isn't always sufficient reason to include a piece of information in an article. More than that, you could link the diff I provided and ask at the article's talk page or the reverting user's talkpage, to further discuss the matter if you think your addition deserves to stay. Regards! Usedtobecool ☎️ 14:08, 28 January 2020 (UTC)

Where can I request for change in wikipedia.org? (article number change)

Since the number of article have exceeded 6 million, while it shown 5994000+, where can I request number update? — Preceding unsigned comment added by DrifAssault (talk • contribs) 13:56, 28 January 2020 (UTC)

‎DrifAssault Hello and welcome to the Teahouse. This isn't something that you can "request", as it is updated automatically. The exact number of articles is actually difficult to determine, as articles can be merged, deleted, or created from existing redirects. 331dot (talk) 13:58, 28 January 2020 (UTC)

@DrifAssault: https://www.wikipedia.org/ copies the counts from meta:List of Wikipedias/Table. The latter is updated daily but not the former. phab:T128546 says "Optimally, we want to do this task every two weeks." The currently shown counts are from 13 January 2020. PrimeHunter (talk) 17:19, 28 January 2020 (UTC)

However at Template:About Wikipedia, the number is currently 6,005,191 - Arjayay (talk) 17:23, 28 January 2020 (UTC)

Template:About Wikipedia and Main Page use the magic word {{NUMBEROFARTICLES}} so they are automatically updated every time the page is rendered by the software (which is often but not at every page view). Magic words only work within the wiki itself so they cannot be used at https://www.wikipedia.org/ or meta:List of Wikipedias/Table. PrimeHunter (talk) 18:02, 28 January 2020 (UTC)

Clarification of "AGF"

So, I looked at WP:AGF. and I think I understand it, but I want to clarify. Does that basically mean, you should assume an editor has good intent unless there is a lot of evidence that suggests otherwise? Thanks, King of Scorpions (talk) 17:08, 28 January 2020 (UTC)

King of Scorpions, Yes. Exactly that. You should assume that every editor is here to improve the encyclopedia, and every action is done to improve the encyclopedia, unless you have good evidence to the contrary. ~~ OxonAlex - talk 17:14, 28 January 2020 (UTC)

User page

I have another question. What is your user page for? I have a link to it in my sig, I think... King of Scorpions (talk) 17:09, 28 January 2020 (UTC)

King of Scorpions, it can be used to put information about yourself. See WP:UPYES for the details, but you generally have a fair bit of room to do what you want with it, as long as you are making good contributions elsewhere. ~~ OxonAlex - talk 17:12, 28 January 2020 (UTC)

You also don't have to have anything there at all. There is no requirement for a user to have a user page, but most do. ~~ OxonAlex - talk 17:13, 28 January 2020 (UTC)

Making my first page

I have made a page for an app that a lot of people have been searching online.

Even I was searching for it online and there was not much information and only there website.

It has thousands of downloads and I have been doing research. It would be easier if people could go to the Wikipedia page and read about a fascinating application that will help many others. Instead of scrolling for pages for something on google.

The application is called WhatWeWant

I would be happy enough to donate if this page could be allowed.

Many thanks

James — Preceding unsigned comment added by JamesF12345 (talk • contribs) 17:27, 28 January 2020 (UTC)

JamesF12345 Hello and welcome to the Teahouse. Whether you donate or not has no bearing on what will happen with your draft. The Foundation that collects the money appreciates any donations, but they do not involve themselves in day to day operations here.

I am sorry, but I had to delete your draft as it met the given criteria for speedy deletion. Wikipedia is not a place to merely tell about something or to promote something as you were doing. Wikipedia summarizes what independent reliable sources with significant coverage state about subjects that meet Wikipedia's special definition of notability. As you state that there isn't much online about this app, it likely does not merit an article at this time. 331dot (talk) 18:01, 28 January 2020 (UTC)

Draft:Amrith Noni

Amrith Noni

I reviewed a sandbox and moved it to Draft:Amrith Noni, and then rejected it as contrary to the purpose of Wikipedia, because it appears to violate the policy on fringe science, and promotes what appears to be a questionable herbal remedy for which claims are made that do not satisfy medically reliable source guidelines. User:Totempole245 then emailed me and asked me to re-review it. They responded to my inquiry about conflict of interest by acknowledging a conflict of interest, and have made some changes to the draft. I do thank the editor for having the integrity to declare their conflict of interest. I see that they have made some changes to the draft that do not change my assessment. It still looks very questionable to me (to put it politely). Will another experienced editor however please look at the draft and offer an opinion? Robert McClenon (talk) 17:29, 28 January 2020 (UTC)

• Note: Wikipedia:Teahouse#Need to create a page for Noni —[AlanM1(talk)]— 17:49, 28 January 2020 (UTC)

Utter garbage. My credentials: PhD MIT Nutritional Biochemistry and 2004-2019 consultant (now retired) to dietary supplement companies. There is no credible science - based on clinical trials or reviews of same - that noni has any health benefits. Basically, not proven. Furthermore, this particular brand has no science support to differentiate it from noni products in general. David notMD (talk) 18:47, 28 January 2020 (UTC)

"undo" button

When I look at a page's history, I see an "undo" button next to the most recent edit. Is it exactly what it sounds like, or is there more to it than that? Thanks, King of Scorpions (talk) 17:30, 28 January 2020 (UTC)

​It is exactly what it sounds like, clicking the button will open up an edit window that undoes the last edit. You still have to click on "Submit". By default, the editor will be notified that you undid their edit unless they have turned those off in preferences. – Thjarkur (talk) 17:44, 28 January 2020 (UTC)

@King of Scorpions: There should be an "undo" link for every edit and not just the most recent. The link undoes the clicked edit but not later edits. Sometimes you get "The edit could not be undone due to conflicting intermediate edits". You can write an edit summary after clicking "undo" to explain the reason. See more at Help:Reverting. PrimeHunter (talk) 17:55, 28 January 2020 (UTC)

If you do choose to Undo, you should provide an explanation at Edit summary (at bottom of the editing page). And if the first editor reverts your Undo, start a discussion on the article's Talk page. David notMD (talk) 18:48, 28 January 2020 (UTC)

Citation

How to add citation in an article? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jawale Kiran (talk • contribs) 17:50, 28 January 2020 (UTC)

Hello Jawale Kiran. You add it in the article's text; the software then constructs the citation at the end of the article. See: WP:Citing sources. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Quisqualis (talk • contribs) 17:54, 28 January 2020 (UTC)

speedy deletion

I just found a spammy draft article called Draft:Power Bottoms™. I also found out about speedy deletion tags, so could someone look at the draft and find out which tag applies, if any? Thanks, King of Scorpions (talk) 17:50, 28 January 2020 (UTC)

I have gone ahead and deleted the draft, King of Scorpions, which sounded like it was just someone trying to be funny by creating a hoax. For more information on speedy deletions, please read WP:CSD. 331dot (talk) 17:54, 28 January 2020 (UTC)

It was kinda funny, but I'm guessing it belongs somewhere else, and not an encyclopedia? Also, i think I will check it out... — Preceding unsigned comment added by King of Scorpions (talk • contribs) 17:56, 28 January 2020 (UTC)

Dispute in Content

How do I contact the editor of a page with misleading or wrong information? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2600:1007:B1A9:375D:9CF4:1CD1:227C:AB42 (talk) 18:16, 28 January 2020 (UTC)

The easiest thing to do is comment on the article talk page to detail your concerns. You can also examine the edit history of the article and locate the name of whom you wish to contact, and do so on their user talk page. 331dot (talk) 18:23, 28 January 2020 (UTC)

You can see a list of editors by clicking on page history, next to the edit button in the top right of the page. However, there is no central editorial board here, and each article is edited by a large numbers of individuals. If you find factual inaccuracies, you can either post at the articles talk page (there is a link in the top left of the page) with the problem, or, if you know how, fix it yourself, although if there is a disagreement you should then go to the talk page - see wp:brd. ~~ OxonAlex - talk 18:24, 28 January 2020 (UTC)

Very strange situation need help

I recently made a Wikipedia account my old acquaintance recently came back to the United States and she showed me she edits Wikipedia. So I decided to make an account today it looked interesting when she showed me, she recently texted me and said she got blocked. So I'm just trying to figure out is there any way to mark us to show we are two different people, we live in the same area. I like bodybuilding she doesn't she's into history but I'm kind of into World War II history she was editing through a computer I was going to continue editing through a MacBook I just wanted to ask before I get mistaken for her.Matt Morgen (talk) 20:01, 28 January 2020 (UTC)

Hey Matt. This is probably not going to be easy to sort out without knowing who your friend is and who blocked her. GMG^talk 20:04, 28 January 2020 (UTC)

Her name for Wikipedia is TheSunofman after the painting I looked her up under contributions. She was blooked by Bbb23 I came here first before I continue to find out how not to get blocked for her mistakes since we live in the same area.Matt Morgen (talk) 20:28, 28 January 2020 (UTC)

@Matt Morgen: Ooops! User:TheSunofman got blocked for WP:SOCKing, abusively using multiple accounts – see Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/TheSunofman. That is a very serious offence on WP. Such blocks are not made lightly. Only a very few senior editors have the authority to investigate them. They don't go fishing on a "hmm maybe" basis, only if there is strong prima facie evidence.

If this account truly is your own independent account, you have nothing to fear. Happy editing! Narky Blert (talk) 23:50, 28 January 2020 (UTC)

As noted above, User:TheSunofman blocked while an investigation is being confirmed for the evidence of registering and using more than a dozen accounts, to which TheSun has admitted. If you were going to be using the same computer, there could be suspicion that you are her, trying to leap to a new account. I am concerned because your and her User pages have a similar grammatical style of lack of punctuation. Given that a lot of her edits pertained to WWII, I suggest you avoid that part of history entirely. David notMD (talk) 23:59, 28 January 2020 (UTC)

How does Wikipedia log edits/where can I confirm I've met the 10 edit criteria?

Hello,

I'm on my way to gaining permission to create an article. I see only one of several edits I made acknowledge in messages I've received from Wikipedia. Where do I confirm my edit count, and how will I know when I have official permission to create an article? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Conor Thomas O'G (talk • contribs) 20:02, 28 January 2020 (UTC)

Conor Thomas O'G, there are two criteria - 10 edits, and 4 days. You seem to have 8 edits, so theoretically need 2 more. However, you are strongly recommended to go through the wp:afc process for your first article, even if you don't technically have to.

Writing a new article from scratch isn't an easy task, and the reviewers at AFC are more suited to helping newcomers get articles right. A bad article submitted normally will likely get sent back as a draft, or deleted, with little useful feedback given - the volume of articles to review somewhat forces this. ~~ OxonAlex - talk 20:11, 28 January 2020 (UTC)

Conor Thomas O'G You can look at your edit count by examining your contribution history- click "Contributions" in the upper right corner of the screen(on a computer). As OxonAlex quite correctly said- it is a good idea for any new user to use Articles for Creation to create and submit a draft for review by others before it is formally placed in the encyclopedia, even if you don't have to. Many new users don't realize that successfully writing a new article is the hardest task on Wikipedia. It's good to get some advice on the process first. You may want to read Your First Article and use the new user tutorial. 331dot (talk) 20:55, 28 January 2020 (UTC)

Double redirect

Why not to delete the empty article redirect Relations between early Christianity and Judaism? and to clean redirect on History of early Christianity? I guess you have the redirects for merging or like that. PoetVeches (talk) 20:19, 28 January 2020 (UTC)

@PoetVeches: Thank you for visiting the Teahouse! The place to raise questions like this is WP:RFD – where ravening editors like myself will either tear you limb from limb, or agree with you, or fight to the death among themselves. Follow the instructions at WP:RFD#How to list a redirect for discussion.

All joking aside, RFD really is the best place to ask questions like this: 'D' stands for Discussion, not necessarily for Deletion. We're quite nice really. (I suspect that both those redirects might get the OK, but I'm not going to prejudge any discussion. It doesn't hurt to ask. Keeping good redirects, deleting bad redirects, and retargetting iffy redirects are all important. If no-one asks the question, no-one ever looks; so, if you have a doubt, ask the question.)

(BTW, those aren't WP:DOUBLEREDIRECTs. That term has the special meaning of A -> B -> C, which Wikimedia software doesn't like. They get corrected by bots into A -> C plus B -> C almost before you can blink; not always correctly.) Yrs, Narky Blert (talk) 23:27, 28 January 2020 (UTC)

NEEDS GUIDE

Hi, please i need a guide on how to cite apart from referencing--Pheritenom (talk) 20:26, 28 January 2020 (UTC)

Hello, Pheritenom, welcome to the Teahouse. I'm a little uncertain what you want to do - adding inline citations maybe? We do have this help page: Referencing for Beginners. I find it pretty incomprehensible, so I wrote WP:EASYREFBEGIN which is my attempt to explain how to add inline citations using either WP:Source Editor or the Visual Editor. Let us know how you get on, or if you want more specific assistance. Nick Moyes (talk) 20:39, 28 January 2020 (UTC) 

Thanks User: Nick Moyess for the understanding applied to answering my confusing question. I have gone through your article about referencing and it was helpful. i would surely get back to you after applying the knowledge gotten, thanks once more --Pheritenom (talk) 03:03, 29 January 2020 (UTC)

Reporting a possible glitch?

I noticed when I went on the Galactic Republic Wikipedia article that the flag and emblem were not on the page. So I checked to make sure that the images were not taken down, and they were not. So then I thought it might be something with my phone, since I was using Wikipedia on mobile device, but when I checked the Galactic Republic Wikipedia page on my computer, I discovered that the image for the flag and emblem were also not on the page. Maybe one of you can look and figure it out, because this has never happened to me before.BigRed606 (talk) 21:10, 28 January 2020 (UTC)

An editor changed the infobox to call up parameters image_flag and image_coat, but those parameters do not exist in Template:Infobox fictional organisation. --David Biddulph (talk) 21:20, 28 January 2020 (UTC)

 Done @BigRed606: I've reinstated them in the way they were before November last year. This might have been something you could just as effectively raised of the talk page of the article itself. But thanks for raising it here. Nick Moyes (talk) 21:27, 28 January 2020 (UTC)

I have removed the other unused parameters which the same editor added in the same group of edits. --David Biddulph (talk) 21:40, 28 January 2020 (UTC)

CS1 Error- Same date, differnet result.

I was editing the https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Externality#Implications page, wanting to provide a few references for a section that had none. So, I found two, but one has a strange error with the date.

This one is getting a CS1 error, where it says that the access date is formatted incorrectly:

And This one isn't:

They look the same to me. What's the difference? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Argis113 (talk • contribs) 22:26, 28 January 2020 (UTC)

References

The error message is not referring to the access date but to the date. You have |date=Apr., 1979 , which isn't a valid format. --David Biddulph (talk) 22:30, 28 January 2020 (UTC)

Can't login to Wiki

I started a page few years and now I want to go back and new information, but I no longer have access to the email I created my wiki account with. My question is: if I open a new account can I continue where I had left or do I need to start from the scratch? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 199.249.109.189 (talk) 22:35, 28 January 2020 (UTC)

Do you know the username that goes with the account? Interstellarity (talk) 22:42, 28 January 2020 (UTC)

If you don't have access to the email used to recover your password, and do not remember your password, you will have to create a new account and identify it as a successor to your original account("I am User2, I previously used the account User1 but lost access to it") 331dot (talk) 22:42, 28 January 2020 (UTC)

To answer the question which you asked, if you saved a page from your previous account you will still be able to edit it from your new account. --David Biddulph (talk) 22:52, 28 January 2020 (UTC)

IP user: there is absolutely no connection between an account and any article. With few exceptions, any editor can edit any article, and any article can be edited by any editor. Nobody owns any article. --ColinFine (talk) 00:33, 29 January 2020 (UTC)

Yobetit

HI -

I am trying to write a Wikipedia page for a company that I work for, however, it seems that it got rejected. Could someone help with this?

Thanks!

DM — Preceding unsigned comment added by David Mallia (talk • contribs) 22:54, 28 January 2020 (UTC)

Hello, David Mallia, and welcome to the Teahouse. The answer is probably that you stop trying to use Wikipedia for promotion and go and advertise your company somewhere else: see WP:OUT.

In more detail: Wikipedia is an encyclopaedia, which contains neutrally written articles which summarise what has been reliably published about notable subjects. If your company meets Wikipedia's criteria for notability (basically, that several people, wholly unconnected with the company, have chosen to publish material about the company) then we could have an article about it. You are discouraged from creating the article, or editing it directly; and if you do so, you are required to make a declaration as a paid editor; the article should be based almost entirely on what people unconnected with the company have published about it, not what the company says or wants to say (including material issued by the company in press releases or interviews); and you will have no control over the contents of the article. --ColinFine (talk) 00:42, 29 January 2020 (UTC)

alphabetize rows in a table

how to alphabetize rows in a table — Preceding unsigned comment added by Parviz.Vakili.Poet (talk • contribs) 00:15, 29 January 2020 (UTC)

See Help:Sorting. --David Biddulph (talk) 00:17, 29 January 2020 (UTC)

Link rot: How to change citation for dead link

I came across this "link rotted" reference in the article on Henry Morton Stanley: https://www.pbs.org/wgbh/americanexperience/features/primary-resources/grant-stanley/. I checked for an archived copy on archive.org and several other archival sites but only found the dreaded 404 error. For now, I am going to edit it to say "citation needed" and put the old reference in the "reason" so I don't lose track of it.

Really, what is the proper thing to do? Is there any single "how to" page on Wikipedia? The more I learn, the more rabbit holes I fall down.

Batya7 (talk) 02:19, 29 January 2020 (UTC)

Hi Batya7. Pages get moved all the time which is why we like references to have title, publisher as well as the url. Then Google can be your friend. I googled '"American Experience" Henry Morton Stanley' and found the new location of the page. And I put it in the archive here in case it moves again. StarryGrandma (talk) 02:35, 29 January 2020 (UTC)

Hi StarryGrandma. Thank you for your assistance. Duh, I did not think to google it. Will now update the reference. Should I cite the archived page? Batya7 (talk) 02:51, 29 January 2020 (UTC)