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:{{re|S. M. Nazmus Shakib}} I use the XFDCloser. I accidentally clicked "Quick Close." Unfortunately, there was no "confirm" message, it just got closed right away. I tried to undo it, but I couldn't find out how to. Thanks for the warning, though. I'll make sure it doesn't happen again. Also, you might want to change the tone. It is very harsh, and kind of intimidating. Just for future reference. Thanks. [[User:Minecrafter0271|Minecrafter0271]] ([[User talk:Minecrafter0271#top|talk]]) 03:26, 14 February 2020 (UTC) |
:{{re|S. M. Nazmus Shakib}} I use the XFDCloser. I accidentally clicked "Quick Close." Unfortunately, there was no "confirm" message, it just got closed right away. I tried to undo it, but I couldn't find out how to. Thanks for the warning, though. I'll make sure it doesn't happen again. Also, you might want to change the tone. It is very harsh, and kind of intimidating. Just for future reference. Thanks. [[User:Minecrafter0271|Minecrafter0271]] ([[User talk:Minecrafter0271#top|talk]]) 03:26, 14 February 2020 (UTC) |
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::For future reference, if you appeal to [[WP:BITE]], either implicitly or explicitly, it doesn't apply to you. [[User:TonyBallioni|TonyBallioni]] ([[User talk:TonyBallioni|talk]]) 03:31, 14 February 2020 (UTC) |
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:::{{re|TonyBallioni}} What do you mean? [[User:Minecrafter0271|Minecrafter0271]] ([[User talk:Minecrafter0271#top|talk]]) 03:35, 14 February 2020 (UTC) |
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Please stop doing Good Article reviews
Hiya. On January 2 you said "I just saw a "proper" review on the article, and I am blown away. I certainly can't do that. Yeah, I think that I'll just stick with editing, for now." So you already admitted that you didn't know what you were doing with Good Article reviews but now I see you were still reviewing on January 6. These reviews really aren't up to standard and will need to be reversed, which means other editors having to do a lot of work. You've done maybe 6 or 8 now. I'm happy to give you a hand learning how to do reviews but I can assure you it does take a while to learn the process and I would say you need to edit for months first before being able to take on a review. Do feel free to ask me questions here or ask over at Wikipedia talk:Good articles. Please don't start any more Good Article reviews. Mujinga (talk) 03:58, 8 January 2020 (UTC)
- Okay, Mujinga. I know the criteria, I have since managed to figure out the templates and stuff, which was what I couldn't do at the time, and there is no official policy that says that I can't do reviews. So I really see no reason for you to delist all the articles that I did simply because I'm a newcomer. If you think that the article doesn't meet the criteria, then reassess it. Don't just say "yeah, they're a newcomer and because of that his reviews aren't valid." I understand the quote might confuse you, but I DO know what I'm doing now. So, yeah. And, I WON'T stop with the reviews. I'll take a break so my talk page isn't filled with annoying little editors, but I will keep doing those reviews in a couple weeks, or maybe a month. Don't just reverse my reviews because you don't think their up to standard. Just put the issue up on the review page, or even the talk page of the article. Thanks. Minecrafter0271 (talk) 02:15, 10 January 2020 (UTC)
- Hi Minecraft. I understand that you are probably feeling a bit piled on at the moment and I hesitate to add to that. I have been involved with reviewing good articles for quite a few years now and would like to offer some advice. The Good Article process is a lightweight means for editors to get feedback on their articles. As you have realised it is a heavily backlogged project so it is great that you are interested in reviewing. The backlog also means that many nominators wait a long time for a review, so we need to make sure they get a decent one when their turn comes.
- We have some simple criteria that we ask that they meet, although many appreciate additional feedback. It is important, especially when you are new, to show that you have assessed the article against this criteria. Many of your reviews seem to be giving commentary on the article as opposed to reviewing it against the criteria. Talk:Bruno Mars: 24K Magic Live at the Apollo/GA1 is probably the best review I have seen from you, although I have found it makes life easier to treat it a bit more collaboratively (i.e.
I am a little bit annoyed
andI'm not going to wikilink it, but just to let you know
could be received poorly by some nominators). Also just a FYI that stability is more a measure of how much the article is changing, not on how old the citations are. It is hard to review an article undergoing an edit war or mass expansion. - The editors at the Good Article project are generally a friendly bunch and we were all new reviewers at some point, so don't be afraid to ask for advice. You could ask me personally or leave a question at the help desk or one of the talk pages. There are a few essays out there with good advice like Wikipedia:Reviewing good articles and Wikipedia:What the Good article criteria are not. Mujinga is right that it is easier to come to this area after having some experience editing the encyclopaedia in general. I would recommend working on an article or two and putting it through as a nominator so you can experience the other side of the coin. AIRcorn (talk) 09:49, 10 January 2020 (UTC)
- Okay, AIRcorn. First off, thank you for understanding. I do appreciate the constructive criticism. Now, let me explain the two quotes you mentioned.
I am a little bit annoyed
: There was a typo in the title of a subsection. Yeah, of course I'm gonna be upset. I was tempted to fail it right then and there under the grammar criteria. I fixed it, and then it was good enough to pass. But, yeah, I was annoyed.I'm not going to wikilink it, but just to let you know
: I don't even know how a nominator would take that negatively. If you could explain, then that would be great.- Once again, appreciate the post, and I am happy that you understand. Thanks. Minecrafter0271 (talk) 00:26, 13 January 2020 (UTC)
- The whole process is supposed to be collaborative. Those comments do not come across that way. Also you shouldn't fail an article because of a single typo and it is an odd thing to get upset about. If you continue reviewing you are likely to come across a lot of typos and worse. It is another reason why it is a good idea to become familiar with editing here before diving into reviews. AIRcorn (talk) 21:50, 14 January 2020 (UTC)
- Okay, Aircorn. Let me break it down for you. I have stated a couple of times that I am taking a break from reviewing, and if you scroll down, then you will see that I have been talking to Mujinga about mentorship. So, yeah, I will try some edits, then come back with some more experience. Happy now? I do admit that I was rather foolish to start talking about failing the article for one typo, though, and I apologize. Cheers. Minecrafter0271 (talk) 03:16, 15 January 2020 (UTC)
- The whole process is supposed to be collaborative. Those comments do not come across that way. Also you shouldn't fail an article because of a single typo and it is an odd thing to get upset about. If you continue reviewing you are likely to come across a lot of typos and worse. It is another reason why it is a good idea to become familiar with editing here before diving into reviews. AIRcorn (talk) 21:50, 14 January 2020 (UTC)
My GA Reviews
Hello! I just went through the "New reviewer" discussion on WP:GA talk page, and I need to clear some things up. First off, I am taking a break from GA reviews, but I'm not quitting. I just am tired of people complaining about me. But, I wanted to talk about it. Aircorn said I feel we are dealing with a young, enthusiastic editor
. I am young and enthusiastic. I also saw some recommendations for mentoring of new reviewers like me, which I would highly appreciate. I know I created the false impression that I don't want any feedback, but I do. If my reviews were a mess, then why don't you say so on the review page? Or on my talk page, which only Mujinga and Aircorn had done. But don't say that behind my back. Again, I would love some mentorship, and to become a decent editor one day. Thank you for understanding. Minecrafter0271 (talk) 03:55, 13 January 2020 (UTC)
- Hi Minecrafter0271, I would be happy to mentor and help out although my experience on Good Articles is admittedly still quite limited. Wikipedia is generally a friendly and welcoming place, so pleasee do feel free to ask for help. I'm replying here because you pinged me, I don't have so much to add. I could definitely recommend reading some other good article reviews to see how other people do it. Cheers! Mujinga (talk) 20:57, 13 January 2020 (UTC)
- Thanks, Mujinga. I would be happy to be mentored by you, thanks. Cheers.
- Great just drop me a line on my talkpage or ping me here if you have questions. The ping above didn't work out, probably because you forgot to sign the post with the four tildes. I also find if you preview a message containing a ping it doesn't work, so it's best to add the ping last before posting. That's my top tip for today!! Mujinga (talk) 13:36, 15 January 2020 (UTC)
- Thanks, Mujinga. I would be happy to be mentored by you, thanks. Cheers.
- Hi Minecrafter0271, I would be happy to mentor and help out although my experience on Good Articles is admittedly still quite limited. Wikipedia is generally a friendly and welcoming place, so pleasee do feel free to ask for help. I'm replying here because you pinged me, I don't have so much to add. I could definitely recommend reading some other good article reviews to see how other people do it. Cheers! Mujinga (talk) 20:57, 13 January 2020 (UTC)
Merge of Articles of Impeachment
Good job on the merge. Looks like you followed the instructions just fine. Thanks. -- Sirfurboy (talk) 11:34, 19 January 2020 (UTC)
- Thanks, Sirfurboy. Minecrafter0271 (talk) 17:24, 19 January 2020 (UTC)
How did you get the wings?
I'm just wondering on your user page, you had wings badges, how do you get them? Also, welcome to Wikipedia! New3400 (talk) 00:45, 22 January 2020 (UTC)
- I played through the Wikipedia Adventure, and they were just added in automatically as I progressed. Minecrafter0271 (talk) 01:12, 22 January 2020 (UTC)
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Hi. I see that you have been posting endorsements on different sections of Wikipedia:Requests for comment/Arbitration Committee. I'm one of the arbitrators and I appreciate your interest in our work. However, that request for comment was posted in 2008 to discuss the Committee as it existed at that time, more than eleven years ago. It is no longer being read or updated and it is not useful for you to be editing that particular page now. Regards, Newyorkbrad (talk) 06:34, 13 February 2020 (UTC)
- @Newyorkbrad: Oops. I thought the ones on the top were the newer ones, or they would be archived or something. Sorry. Minecrafter0271 (talk) 16:34, 13 February 2020 (UTC)
- On the top where? Let me know where you were looking and I'll see if that ought to be clarified. Thanks, Newyorkbrad (talk) 17:12, 13 February 2020 (UTC)
- @Newyorkbrad: On the top of Wikipedia:Requests for comment/Arbitration Committee. Please get that sorted out. And, aren't discussions from 11 YEARS ago supposed to be closed and archived? It was still open! Please get that clarified, thanks. Minecrafter0271 (talk) 17:37, 13 February 2020 (UTC)
- On the top where? Let me know where you were looking and I'll see if that ought to be clarified. Thanks, Newyorkbrad (talk) 17:12, 13 February 2020 (UTC)
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- @S. M. Nazmus Shakib: I use the XFDCloser. I accidentally clicked "Quick Close." Unfortunately, there was no "confirm" message, it just got closed right away. I tried to undo it, but I couldn't find out how to. Thanks for the warning, though. I'll make sure it doesn't happen again. Also, you might want to change the tone. It is very harsh, and kind of intimidating. Just for future reference. Thanks. Minecrafter0271 (talk) 03:26, 14 February 2020 (UTC)
- For future reference, if you appeal to WP:BITE, either implicitly or explicitly, it doesn't apply to you. TonyBallioni (talk) 03:31, 14 February 2020 (UTC)
- @TonyBallioni: What do you mean? Minecrafter0271 (talk) 03:35, 14 February 2020 (UTC)
- For future reference, if you appeal to WP:BITE, either implicitly or explicitly, it doesn't apply to you. TonyBallioni (talk) 03:31, 14 February 2020 (UTC)
Slow down
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