Talk:Discord

Mistake I can't fix

As this page is locked i can't edit it. In the third sentence of the last paragraph of the https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discord_(software)#Controversial_content section it says "Discord moderators" where it should say "Discord admins" or something to that effect. These are two very different groups of people. Thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.66.254.120 (talk) 08:13, 30 October 2019 (UTC)

There is also an error when talking about linking accounts, rich presence doesn't know what game your playing because you've linked steam but because it can look at what processes are running on your computer. Tindolt (talk) 15:18, 24 November 2019 (UTC)

Definition of Discord server

This page, and the Discord community in general, seem to be using the word "server" and "host" in a wildly peculiar way altogether distinct from the common definition of Server (computing). The help pages are silent. According to the sparse information available, "The Discord servers are actually hosted by Discord themselves". So it seems the word "server" is analogous to a "room" in certain chat servers, or a subdomain/instance of other web software like Wordpress.com, Tumblr, Slack etc. Nemo 17:31, 28 January 2019 (UTC)

A Discord server is very similiar to a Ventrilo, Mumble or Teamspeak server. The difference being that you reach them by an invite, rather than specifying port and IP. But a "server" is a collection of channels (rooms) for text and voice and the members who have joined it. They are all hosted by Discord though, there is not third party hosting. -- ferret (talk) 22:08, 28 January 2019 (UTC)

According to the general accepted definition of "server" in computing, a "server" is "a program, a virtual or physical machine, a local or remote service following client-server model". As all of Discord is hosted by Discord inc, only they can set up new "servers", either in terms of physical machines, or in terms of instances of the application. So, the given comparison with Ventrilo, Mumble and especially TeamSpeak, doesn't fit. The mentioned services offer downloading of the server software to set up your own instance. Discord doesn't provide such and each user is required to use the provided services by Discord inc. Hence "setting up a Discord 'server'" is the wrong term. The better term could be used for Discord might be something like "lobby" wich fits it what Discord then provide to its users, whereby a "lobby" then has to be understood as "a collection of one or more 'channels' useable for text, voice and file exchange managed by its creator". So, although the wrong term "server" is used by many, technically it's wrong by general accepted definition of what a server is. 2A0C:D242:4434:200:D17F:B318:5046:7A14 (talk) 16:28, 1 October 2019 (UTC)

Discord and 'cub porn'

Discord recently released a statement saying that cub porn is not against their TOS, while loli porn is. This belongs in the controversies section. sources https://www.polygon.com/2019/1/30/18203692/discord-nsfw-policy-furry-cub https://www.reddit.com/r/discordapp/comments/aknrs9/another_confirmation_from_an_earlier_message_and/ef6uhcr/?context=8&depth=9 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:247:C580:1C35:0:0:0:E37E (talk) 21:20, 5 February 2019 (UTC)

Probably should be, the evidence is there an all with the recent events with their T&S stuff but i don't know. what do you all think? Wkc19 :) (talk) 00:01, 6 February 2019 (UTC)

Not saying it can't be added, but we should wait to see how much of a big deal this is. People on Discord and Reddit getting worked up about it but not reported in mainstream sources is something we don't do. And while the Polygon article is a perfectly valid source, it is one source. To say this is controversial we need some additional corroboration. --Masem (t) 00:09, 6 February 2019 (UTC)

does user backlash count as controversy? 2601:247:C580:1C35:521:CEE5:3500:83FD (talk) 00:43, 6 February 2019 (UTC)

Not without reliable secondary coverage, which is currently lacking outside of one source. -- ferret (talk) 00:48, 6 February 2019 (UTC)

here you go buddy. https://www.newsweek.com/discord-furries-terms-service-community-guidelines-1323099 please put this up for everyone to know! 2601:247:C580:1C35:A12E:B6BF:CD53:9CDE (talk) 05:47, 8 February 2019 (UTC)

Our goal is not to "let everyone know" (See WP:RIGHTGREATWRONGS. That second piece helps but again, how much of this is a small group upset over something? It's a sign its being picked up so if anoher major sources comes out, we should definitely cover it. --Masem (t) 06:43, 8 February 2019 (UTC)

to quote newsweek "site moderators who fail to enforce the platform’s rules because of personal bias, specifically among moderators and community members who identify as Furries." i feel as though you are 'crusading against a certain POV' based on the fact that you did not read either of the articles i linked and your "small group getting upset over something" comment. i'd like a second opinion on this. 2601:247:C580:1C35:A12E:B6BF:CD53:9CDE (talk) 08:05, 8 February 2019 (UTC)

In the Controversial content section, I have mentioned the banning of underaged content in July 2018 and subsequent controversy over "cub" content, which resulted in policy changes and Discord announcing transparency reports. 9³ (talk) 02:18, 22 April 2019 (UTC)

meta

>Its not proper to advertise a meta page in a mainspace.

Is it?

I think it would be okay.

Also, it seems to be the norm on other pages, such as Sysop.

Inb4 other stuff exists.

Benjamin (talk) 19:20, 20 February 2019 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 27 February 2019

Minor edit, the X years ago in the infobox needs updated. Scuzzy Beta (talk) 22:11, 27 February 2019 (UTC)

 Not done for now: @Scuzzy Beta: it hasn't finished its 4th year yet, so its 3 DannyS712 (talk) 22:17, 27 February 2019 (UTC)

Jibberish jargon

The page currently contains the block:

In October 2017, Discord offered server verification to game developers, publishers, and content creators, allowing them to display their server's "official" status with a "verified checkmark" after confirming their identity with the Discord team. Developers and publishers with verified servers can use data from Discord to create a "rich presence" within their games, allowing players to connect their game profile to their Discord profile. By the end of 2017, about 450 servers were verified, with about 20 servers using the "rich presence" features.

If anybody can figure out what any of that means, could they please rewrite the paragraph without sensationalist / promotional jingo jargon that means nothing to the rest of us. Thanks! And "alt.right" sounds like a Usenet newsgroup, but I realise someone else chose that name, not this article's authors. Still, its wikilink here could be expanded to be less esoteric. 49.195.61.154 (talk) 14:08, 8 March 2019 (UTC)

Expand on the information near the title

Hello, most of the information in the beginning is very short and could be lengthened. Reading this page has some weirdly out of order news about Discord or seems out of place. Ewong2188191 (talk) 04:17, 28 March 2019 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 7 June 2019

According to this blog post from the official Discord blog, Discord is now using Rust in its backend infrastructure. Please update the infobox, specifically please add Rust to the "Written in" (programming language) section. Rinnean23 (talk) 19:42, 7 June 2019 (UTC)

 Done Saucy^{[talk – contribs]} 22:07, 7 June 2019 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request, 26/06/2019

The paragraph

In July 2018, Discord updated its terms of service to ban drawn pornography with underaged subjects. A social media movement subsequently criticized Discord for selectively allowing "cub" content, or underaged pornographic furry artwork, under the same guidelines. Discord moderators held that "cub porn" was separate from lolicon and shotacon, being "allowable as long as it is tagged properly." In February 2019, Discord amended its community guidelines to include "non-humanoid animals and mythological creatures as long as they appear to be underage" in its list of disallowed categories, in addition to announcing periodic transparency reports to better communicate with users.

Could be more informative by mentioning that the change in policy concerning "cub porn" was provoked by the mass outcry from the aforementioned social media movement. This wasn't a spontaneous change that occurred by coincidence at the same time that there was a mass outcry like the current paragraph implies

https://www.polygon.com/2019/2/13/18223726/discord-policy-change-nsfw-cub-furry

RedAlert 007 (talk) 01:52, 26 June 2019 (UTC)

 Done Saucy^{[talk – contribs]} 03:53, 29 June 2019 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request

Revert Special:Diff/919489297, using the template is better for categorization. 84.250.17.211 (talk) 07:24, 11 October 2019 (UTC)

 Done Saucy^{[talk – contribs]} 07:29, 11 October 2019 (UTC)

Privacy & security

Some mention needs to be made of the fact that the terms of service for Discord mean that They can use any material you post on the platform and any information they gather from your phone or computer in any way they choose. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Gmdean2015 (talk • contribs) 14:01, 15 October 2019 (UTC)

Requested move 8 November 2019

The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

The result of the move request was: Not moved. Consensus against move. (non-admin closure) – Ammarpad (talk) 15:25, 15 November 2019 (UTC)

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• Discord (software) → Discord
• Discord → Discord (disambiguation)

– WP:PRIMARYTOPIC. Discord (software) has significantly higher pageviews than all others linked in the disambiguation page. Googling "discord" also reveals that the software is the most common use for the term. Saucy^{[talk – contribs]} 04:47, 8 November 2019 (UTC)

• Oppose Disagree that the software is the primary topic. It's one of the more significant hits for "discord" but there's far too many other ranges of topics to make a niche software product the primary. --Masem (t) 06:03, 8 November 2019 (UTC)
• Strong oppose - Regardless of any other circumstances, this software is not primary. -- Netoholic @ 08:05, 8 November 2019 (UTC)
• Oppose and early close Unbelievable. In ictu oculi (talk) 10:44, 8 November 2019 (UTC)
• Oppose Per Masem and Netoholic. -- ferret (talk) 12:20, 8 November 2019 (UTC)
• Oppose. The primary meanings are: (a) the musical sense; (b) disagreement among people. Anthony Appleyard (talk) 13:36, 8 November 2019 (UTC)
• Oppose Unlike Amazon, which is a clear primary topic, in my view, the same cannot be said here. It is a generic English word that has multiple uses and no clear primary.--Doug Mehus (talk) 20:43, 8 November 2019 (UTC)
  • I don't see how Amazon would be considered a primary topic if Discord isn't. The Amazon River and Amazon Rainforest are both major topics, but there aren't really any major articles that could be confused with Discord. Saucy^{[talk – contribs]} 23:19, 8 November 2019 (UTC)
    • It is not that there is a major "discord" topic, but that discord is a word with multiple long-standing meanings (see Anthony Appleseed's comment) that even if we don't have articles on those meanings, should be the first thing people see when searching on "Discord". --Masem (t) 00:27, 9 November 2019 (UTC)

      Masem, Yeah, what you and Anthony Appleyard said. ;) Doug Mehus (talk) 02:50, 9 November 2019 (UTC)

• Oppose The classic meanings are long-standing and still quite significant. The software was released only 4½ years ago and is currently popular, but I think it's premature to suggest that its significance rivals that of the other meanings. BunsenH (talk) 02:43, 10 November 2019 (UTC)
• Weak support The title of a Wikipedia article may not be always necessary to follow the pageviews in count. Yet I have some sort of support but not that strong from my point of view. It is not much popular unlike the social media platforms. Abishe (talk) 04:24, 10 November 2019 (UTC)
• Oppose Per WP:NWFCTM but also because Eris (mythology) is also called Discordia, or Discord._{ZXCVBNM (TALK)} 07:08, 13 November 2019 (UTC)
• Oppose. Clearly not the primary topic. -- Necrothesp (talk) 15:21, 13 November 2019 (UTC)

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Error in software dropdown

There is also an error when talking about linking accounts, rich presence doesn't know what game your playing because you've linked steam but because it can look at what processes are running on your computer. Tindolt (talk) 15:19, 24 November 2019 (UTC)

Controversies

Wouldn't it be a better idea to separate all of their controversies into a new section. The way that it's done ATM, as a subsection isn't great, when it's double the size of the main section. Also mentioning a smaller controversy, under "Reception"(and yes, i am aware, that that seems to contradict what I just said, but this isn't that major to be an actual thing) with their cutesy language that they use in response emails and such, a la this:https://i.imgur.com/ujIumGO.png.

The Discord Service Refers To The 4 Digits After Your Username's "#" As A Tag

It Is Not A PIN, Though Sometimes the Word "Discriminator" Is Used By The Community. There Are Also Lots Of Typos. 213.166.136.5 (talk) 05:45, 21 April 2020 (UTC)

Name

Was someone going to explain the name? Does it come from the quote "let there be discord"? 174.0.48.147 (talk) 13:31, 26 April 2020 (UTC)

Advertising on this article.

While reading the article, i found some critical mentions of concurring programs like Skype and Steam, to name a few. Maybe someone could give this a closer look. Thanks! RABDe 500 (talk) 12:57, 28 April 2020 (UTC)

You betcha. If you see crap like that (and it's rife in this article) you can kill it yourself. Go to it!  :-) I already got some of it. I was just driving by and the POV was so blatant I jumped right into action. I didn't even see your comment until just now after killing some of it myself. Some promoter must have gotten to this article since the last time I saw it a few years ago. The vermin. 73.219.90.8 (talk) 00:11, 29 April 2020 (UTC)

A service reporting on its user base is not promotional, though it may be worded inappropriately. We want to know appropriximate user base sizes, and even better when filtered through the reporting of an RS. --Masem (t) 00:54, 29 April 2020 (UTC)

That's fair. I think what I did and what you did to refine it was pretty good. Much more straightforward encyclopedic flavor there now.

The way most of the rest of the article is framed has that promotional smell to it -- a strong one. We all know that stink when we smell it. Promoters who are naive editors (or even experienced ones) just can't wash it out of their writing. It's like a fact of nature. There's also the cherry picking and undue weight with the long digressions of "positive" facts. Completely neglected is the matter of all the data being stored on their servers and "owned" by them -- a pretty widely discussed privacy/security problem (mentioned on this talk page on 15 Oct) which keeps people seeking alternatives. A datum about the number of users says nothing about the number of people not using it because of various problems. Number-of-users data is inherently biased because of that (I would suggest). According to the article, apart from some misuse by others, everything about it is wonderful and its inventors are all very modern and insightful. 73.219.90.8 (talk) 07:58, 29 April 2020 (UTC)

Protection

This page needs to be protected from Vandalism because Discord is used by so many people. How do you do that? — Preceding unsigned comment added by ConstructorRob18 (talk • contribs) 19:22, 4 May 2020 (UTC)

@ConstructorRob18: Protection isn't issued based on popularity, but on how much disruption is happening. Currently this article isn't vandalized enough to warrant being protected again. -- ferret (talk) 19:27, 4 May 2020 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 15 May 2020

Change the "Initial Release: May 13, 2015; 4 years ago" line in the info box to "Initial Release: May 13, 2015; 5 years ago", as yesterday (5/13/2020) was the 5th anniversary of the launch of the software. Indyjacob (talk) 05:09, 15 May 2020 (UTC)

 Not done: You may need to WP:Purge your cache, that worked for me. JTP ^{(talk • contribs)} 05:20, 15 May 2020 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 18 June 2020

the discord URL is now not discordapp.comm it's discord.com now 99.254.173.140 (talk) 22:15, 18 June 2020 (UTC)

 Not done: An odd comment since this is already in the article; and the app url redirects to discord.com anyway... RandomCanadian (talk / contribs) 22:26, 18 June 2020 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 3 July 2020

71.38.24.114 (talk) 02:32, 3 July 2020 (UTC)

 Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. ~ Amkgp 💬 07:13, 3 July 2020 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 16 July 2020

In the article's infobox, change

| author = 
| developer = Discord Inc.<br />(Originally ''Hammer And Chisel, Inc.'')

to

| author = Hammer And Chisel, Inc.
| developer = Discord Inc.

According to Template:Infobox software/doc, the author can be an individual or organization. original author(s) or publisher(s). 84.250.17.211 (talk) 12:59, 16 July 2020 (UTC)

 Not done: These aren't separate entities. The company renamed. -- ferret (talk) 14:32, 16 July 2020 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 14 September 2020

It has recently come to my attention that Discord was funded by Tencent, a Chinese company and active supporter of the communist party. My friends and I are still doing research into this, although not as much as we would like to due to our own lives being busy, most of us decided to get other's opinions on the situation. We all support the Hong Kong protests against China, and we are questioning if we should stop support in Tencent products in a similar fashion to how many have stopped supporting Blizzard and their products. I wanted to get all of your opinions and research on the situation as well. Please start a discussion in the comments. Please be civil and not bite at each other's throats. 71.241.135.142 (talk) 10:30, 14 September 2020 (UTC)