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Removal of American Kennel Club regisry date from lead.

Why is the American Kennel Club so special and important enough compared to other organisations to merit mention in the lead? Because if it is not aknowleged by any major kennel clubb, that the dog breed is not purebreed. That was the date of the registration of the god breed as purebreed, it has nothing to do with American or not American. American Kennel Club is one if the major registry for purebreed dogs. It is not just one country - but - one of the major registies. Dog breeds that have been documented may be accepted into one or more of the major registries (kennel clubs) of dog breeds, including the Fédération Cynologique Internationale (covering 84 countries), The Kennel Club (UK), the Canadian Kennel Club, the American Kennel Club, the United Kennel Clubs International, the Australian National Kennel Council and the New Zealand Kennel Club, -because that's the way it works. Hafspajen (talk) 17:32, 26 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Breed name

The Chinese name 西施犬 pronounced xishi quan certainly does not mean "lion dog." It could associate the dog to the famous beauty Xi Shi, written 西施. "Lion dog" could be written 狮子犬 pronounced xizi quan much closer to the Engish name Shih Tzu. The lede correctly says various theories exist of the breed's origin. But the lion dog theory of the breed's name does not fit with the Chinese name 西施犬. Colin McLarty (talk) 02:48, 17 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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Breeding info

Shouldn't the article have some information about how old the dogs should be before they start breeding, the typical gestation period, and the typical litter size?   — Jeff G. ツ 16:24, 26 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Chinese

The alternative Chinese isn't just "lion" it's lion dog 狮子狗 Umbrella Bird (talk) 22:06, 19 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]

The name and Chinese part is problematic.

西施 (pinyin: xī shī) is a beautiful woman in ancient China.

狮子 (pinyin: shī zi) means lion.

The Chinese wiki page of zh:西施犬 is linked to this Shih Tzu page (you can see the link on the left sidebar under "Languages".)

The Chinese wiki page of zh:狮子犬 is linked to Pekingese.

The two Chinese names may sound similar to English speakers and the two dog breeds are somewhat similar, too. Perhaps that's why this article mixes the two (西施 and 狮子) in several places.

In the first sentence, Shih Tzu (UK: /ˌʃiːˈtsuː/, US: /ˈʃiːˌtsuː/) is clearly Chinese pronunciation for 狮子, but then it says Chinese: 西施犬; pinyin: Xī Shī quǎn literally "Hsi Shih dog".

In the "Etymology" part, it says The name comes from the Chinese language word for "lion". "Shih Tzu" is the Wade-Giles romanization of the Chinese characters 獅子 "lion". Then it says In contemporary mandarin, the Shih Tzu is generally known as the "Xi Shi dog"; Xi Shi was regarded as one of the most beautiful women of ancient China.

I'm not an expert on dogs and this is very confusing. Are they suggesting that the two breeds are actually the same? Or this breed is a misnomer? Or is it that some editor who did not know Chinese well added the wrong information at some time? Betty (talk) 13:09, 8 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]