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This is a list of redirects that have been proposed for deletion or other action on September 12, 2022.

Random Monsters (Heroscape)

This is not a faction in Heroscape, and there is no reason that any person would need to search this term to reach the game. TNstingray (talk) 15:51, 12 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Bronn-Char (Marvel Cinematic Universe)

The targeted section no longer exists; plus, the characters name is "Bron-Char" with one n. TNstingray (talk) 15:41, 12 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Fietro

Is there really any reason to have a throw-away line as a redirect? This is not the characters name, and was used just one time in passing mention. TNstingray (talk) 15:38, 12 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Tragedy (Steps song)

Should this redirect to Heartbeat (Steps song) or to Tragedy (Bee Gees song)#Steps version? The redirect's history (with the latest change being made by an IPv6 user) shows that where to redirect to appears to be controversial. GeoffreyT2000 (talk) 15:13, 12 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

It appears that it goes with WP:SONGCOVER, per below that it stated that the cover versions of the said song should not have an article, and it should be in a section of the article of the original song. Covers are enough to be redirected to the original version. 2600:1700:9BF3:220:9CA5:F403:EF23:F45A (talk) 16:35, 12 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Prime Minister of Guatemala

Nonexistent title, see also Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2022 September 6#Prime Minister of the United States. Privybst (talk) 14:49, 12 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

State of Myanmar

Retarget to Myanmar. The English translation of the country's name from Burma to Myanmar was changed only in 1989. Privybst (talk) 14:07, 12 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Canadian Republic

Retarget to Republicanism in Canada, and move hatnote there of course. Privybst (talk) 12:31, 12 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Orconectes australis

It is generally acepted practice that non-fossil taxa should generally be redlinked to encourage article creation. –LaundryPizza03 (d) 16:19, 4 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Comment In this case, we can use the {{ill}} templates to link to matching articles in French and Portuguese, respectively. –LaundryPizza03 (d) 16:21, 4 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]
These have a history as articles, but were turned into redirects. They were stubs no inline citations, but the respective French and Portuguese articles are stubs with no inline citations (and no information beyond what was in the English articles). I don't see any point to linking foreign language articles when the English article could just be restored. Plantdrew (talk) 16:57, 5 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, CycloneYoris talk! 10:20, 12 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Orconectes hartfieldi

Faxonius hartfieldi was moved from genus Orconectes to Faxonius in 2017. Also the redirect page contains Categories which is just weird. As the redirect will take users to the wrong genus, it should be deleted. Then, hopefully the red link will prompt somebody into creating a species page that can contain the required Categories 86.17.100.205 (talk) 14:08, 4 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

  • Either retarget to Faxonius or soft delete until a Faxonius sp. article is made so that we retarget to that article instead.. The genus was only relatively recently changed, so the old binomial name remains a plausible search term. — Ceso femmuin mbolgaig mbung, mellohi! (投稿) 14:21, 7 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, CycloneYoris talk! 10:20, 12 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Anglican Orthodox Southern Episcopal Church

There is no mention of this name being used to designate thos organisation. I could not find a RS saying this organisation uses this name.
Therefore, this redirect should be deleted. Veverve (talk) 12:01, 4 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, CycloneYoris talk! 10:18, 12 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Xanthocroi

Delete. Not-included misspelling of "Xanthochroi" (which has a different target). Hildeoc (talk) 02:47, 5 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: No mention has been added yet to the current target.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, CycloneYoris talk! 10:07, 12 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Work management

Delete. Per Wikipedia:Soft redirects, "Soft redirects to non-English language editions of Wikipedia should be avoided because they are generally unhelpful to English-language readers. " Fram (talk) 07:45, 12 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I tried to create a "work management" page in English, but gave up due to the opinion that it was not necessary.
So, for the time being, I thought that a soft redirect to the post-Japan page would be a good solution.
Even Japanese pages can be easily translated into English by Google, etc., so I don't think it's a big problem. Mocha c jp (talk) 08:01, 12 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete per nom. The existence of this helps only Japanese speakers and disguises the fact that we don't have any content about the topic - based on google hits this is a notable topic we should have an article about. Thryduulf (talk) 08:48, 12 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Typhoon Vongfong (old)

No idea what the intention was here, but Typhoon Vongfong (old) should be moved back to Typhoon Vongfong, and what is now at Typhoon Vongfong either deleted or merged if people want to have the history for some reason. Fram (talk) 06:48, 12 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Wikipedia:Cum

This redirect has a title that is not, but should be in FULL CAPS as per WP:SCNAMES. It was created from a page move to WP:CUM and has not been edited since then. It should be deleted because WP:CUM serves the purpose. —CrafterNova [ TALK ]  [ CONT ] 05:53, 12 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Todd Phelps

Not mentioned at redirect target, and not a notable character (only appeared in a small role in one TV episode, and not expected to appear again). InfiniteNexus (talk) 05:24, 12 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Titania / Mary MacPherran

This is a very non-standard format, especially with the slash, which makes it an unlikely search term. InfiniteNexus (talk) 05:15, 12 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Aneka (Marvel Cinematic Universe)

not mentioned in target article -MPGuy2824 (talk) 04:19, 12 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Even more "upcoming" no longer "upcoming"

Another 105 of these. Per Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2022 August 30#More "upcoming" no longer "upcoming", Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2022 August 10#Target subjects no longer "upcoming", etc. These redirects have no significant edit history other than redirections, and do/should not have any incoming links from the "article" space. Steel1943 (talk) 03:31, 12 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

You can delete, I don't mind. ---Another Believer (Talk) 03:42, 12 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]
This comment is in regards to Sister (upcoming film) unless specified otherwise. Steel1943 (talk) 04:01, 12 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]
I agree that both Sister (upcoming film) and Sister (Upcoming film) should be deleted. The film eventually came out under the name Music (2021 film), and the name had been changed before production. -- Ssilvers (talk) 04:35, 12 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Page views alone should not be the deciding factor in deletion discussions. These redirects are inherently inaccurate and misleading to readers, and it has been the long-standing consensus to delete these redirects regardless of page views and closeness to release date. FYI, Pinocchio came out four days ago, so of course you're going to see views in the past 30 days. InfiniteNexus (talk) 15:18, 12 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]
These redirects are not inherently misleading - indeed they are the exact opposite in many cases and being incorrect is not a justification to delete a redirect - we even have {{R from incorrect name}} that explains their utility. The purpose of redirects is to help people find the content they are looking for, and large numbers of page views are the most objective evidence that they are doing that it is possible. We routinely keep {{R from move}} redirects and being moved only four days ago is an extremely strong reason to keep. Consensus can, and evidently should change if it is has previously been used to justify actively harming the encyclopaedia. Thryduulf (talk) 15:29, 12 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]
If you think that, then read the WP:NEWCSD requirements and craft a proposal at WT:CSD that meets all four of them. Nothing anybody has suggested so far has done anything other than clearly failed objective and/or uncontestable and commenters are strongly divided about whether it is frequent enough. Thryduulf (talk) 15:23, 12 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Swan Song (upcoming film)

There are no "upcoming films" subjects at the target. Most likely, this redirect formerly referred to Swan Song (2021 Benjamin Cleary film) and Swan Song (2021 Todd Stephens film). Steel1943 (talk) 02:06, 12 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Delete, redundent. Thanks, Indagate (talk) 08:44, 12 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Ouzbékistan

No affinity for the French language. FAdesdae378 (talk · contribs) 00:41, 12 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Dreamland (upcoming thriller film)

I'm not sure which films at the target page this redirect refers to, but either way, it does not seem as though there are any "upcoming film" subjects listed on the target page at the present time. Steel1943 (talk) 00:30, 12 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Mimi (upcoming film)

There seem to no longer be any "upcoming film" subjects at the target, leaving this redirect's disambiguator erroneous and unhelpful. Most likely, in the past, this redirect referred to Mimi (2021 Hindi film) or Mimi (2021 Nigerian film). Steel1943 (talk) 00:25, 12 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Home (upcoming TV series)

The target disambiguation page does not list any "upcoming TV series" subjects; all listed have already been released and/or started. Steel1943 (talk) 00:02, 12 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]