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Nikki Haley's full name

I'm curious as to what Haley's full name is now, as her recent book With All Due Respect credits her as "Nikki R. Haley". Going off that, I'd assume her full name is Nimrata Randhawa "Nikki" Haley. Thoughts? MyPreferredUsernameWasTaken (talk) 11:52, 24 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I'm going to be bold and edit it in. MyPreferredUsernameWasTaken (talk) 19:34, 25 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
I'm reverting your change. The source doesn't mention the Nimrata or the Randhawa and, since this is a blp, you'll need an ironclad source for her name.--regentspark (comment) 23:34, 25 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
My apologies. I seem to have also reverted the content that you moved. Could you do that again? --regentspark (comment) 23:38, 25 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Done. MyPreferredUsernameWasTaken (talk) 00:12, 26 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
I don't have anything "ironclad" per se, but I remain in doubt as to whether we have Nikki Haley's birth name correct at all. Going off how she once posted on Twitter "Nikki is my name on my birth certificate. I married a Haley. I was born Nimarata Nikki Randhawa and married Michael Haley." I'm assuming she goes by Nikki Randhawa Haley now, possibly dropping the Nimarata, if that was her legal birth name at one point. [1] MyPreferredUsernameWasTaken (talk) 00:02, 26 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Aside from her tweet described above, see ”Vercellone, Chiara. “Fact check: Nikki Haley didn't 'white-wash' her name. It's Punjabi”, USA Today (5 May 2021): “Haley, the daughter of Indian immigrants, was born Nimarata Nikki Randhawa….her yearbook photo listed her full name: ‘Nimarata Nikki Randhawa.’” Anythingyouwant (talk) 05:05, 18 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Is there any actual evidence that her birth name included Nikki? A High School Yearbook doesn't count, I didn't go by my own birth name in mine. I can't find any evidence that this is an actual word or name in Punjabi. Outside of the context of Nikki Haley, there seem to be no references anywhere. No mention of girls being called nikki or niki. I can buy it as a diminutive of Nimrata, but as a common name or middle name I think it's a stretch to claim it has actual Punjabi origins. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.231.166.176 (talk) 12:00, 18 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Dustin Brown

Is there some reason this case is not listed on her page? Given that this has to do with the rights of ethnic persons, the story is relevant.

https://hodgsonlawoffices.com/2020/02/custody-battle-continues-in-cherokee-adoption-case/ 2604:2D80:A48F:300:1D88:5A4B:D414:C820 (talk) 00:22, 16 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Political positions

User:Sandizer has started a “political positions” section. That could be fine, but we already had several subsections entitled “policies” in the various pertinent sections. So there is a lot of redundancy and repetition now. We should decide which way is better, instead of doing them both. Some political positions are more relevant to her job in the state legislature, while others are more pertinent to her governorship, or UN position, or her current campaign. My preference would be to put a political positions subsection under her 2024 campaign section, and start it by saying something like “In addition to positions and policies articulated earlier in her career….” Anythingyouwant (talk) 15:18, 19 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Good idea. The 2017-8 foreign policy positions are particularly difficult because there are so many of them, they are so detailed, and most importantly, we can't really tell whether she still holds them because she was acting in a subordinate capacity as UN Ambassador which required her to represent the Trump administration positions faithfully to the exclusion of her own possible dissent, which I alluded to instead of summarizing them. I think maybe one or two weren't from 2017-8. Anyway, your suggestion will address that problem. But it's important to keep in mind that our major candidate articles almost always have a top-level political positions section.
Two other things: I see her campaign site brags about her positions on school choice and charter schools (she's strongly for them) which is the only such issue she touts which isn't in the section (other than gun rights, on which she's a mainstream Republican as far as I can tell), so if anyone can find a good independent source for them, they should probably be in there. Having said that, there are probably a lot of relatively unpopular positions we are also missing, especially around labor rights and unions. She was extremely pro-business to the point of being called anti-family on those issues, and it seems pretty skewed to omit that criticism. Sandizer (talk) 01:04, 20 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Okay, I will implement this idea tomorrow, in view of your comments, since we agree it’s a good idea. I don’t think it’s a problem to have policies or positions as top-level subheaders instead of full headers. For example, it looks like neither Joe Biden nor Kamala Harris has a full header for positions or policies. Anythingyouwant (talk) 02:40, 20 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Biden has Joe Biden#Political positions at the top level, but you're right that Harris's Kamala Harris#Tenure and political positions is under her Senate section. Sandizer (talk) 04:25, 20 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Oops, you’re right about Biden. See Gavin Newsom. Anythingyouwant (talk) 06:21, 20 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Done. Anythingyouwant (talk) 16:01, 20 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Merger proposal

The proposal failed. casualdejekyll 20:22, 31 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.


I propose merging Nikki Haley 2024 presidential campaign into Nikki Haley and leaving behind a redirect. I think that the content in the campaign can easily be explained within the biographical article for the foreseeable future, and a merger would not cause any article-size or weighting problems in the candidate’s main article. It is not clear whether the campaign will obtain enough note down the road to warrant its own article, but it is not useful to have a stub article at this moment. I am not opposed to a future spinning-off/re-creation of the campaign article if there later becomes sufficiently more to write about the campaign, but for now I believe the stub-article on the campaign serves no use and there is not enough to expand the article beyond what is now contained in it. I am in the process of making similar requests for some other 2024 campaign articles.

Most of the "Political positions during presidential campaign" section of the campaign article can just be merged with the similarly-focused section of Haley’s article. SecretName101 (talk) 15:54, 8 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

  • Support per rationale of SecretName101, with no prejudice against restoring the article should significant coverage of Haley's campaign increase enough to warrant it. A. Randomdude0000 (talk) 17:14, 8 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose Hi. I've been withholding from editing this article because in the past I've been accused of just adding news sources as the days go on. While I see the rationale behind this proposal for most of the candidates, I would say Haley's an exception in that I can find multiple editorials/news stories relating to her campaign. I would like to be given, at minimum, a few days to add some examples of this to article to plead its case for being kept. Informant16 (talk) 19:00, 8 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose Haley is clearly a prominent candidate in the GOP primary with the campaign article being well-sourced enough to support having a page independent of the Nikki Haley article. BlueShirtz (talk) 19:26, 8 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose, this candidate has and continues to receive sustained media coverage and reputably sourced support. Candidate pages for credible major party candidates are the rule rather than the exception for Wikipedia. Randy Kryn (talk) 13:17, 9 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Not a stub. Since "Stub" and "stub-article" are major points in the nomination even though this is not a stub, and several of the other nominated campaign pages are not stubs, please consider striking the words (coding: striking the words) from the nominations. Thanks. Randy Kryn (talk) 10:31, 12 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Support - as stated above there is not enough to warrant a standalone article at this stage. It can be accommodated in the main biographical page and be reinstated later if their is enough notable coverage to warrant a standalone page. Dueyfinster (talk) 17:18, 13 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose The article is well sourced and it does warrant as a standalone article. Not to mention in some polls, Haley's been polling at fourth/third place. A better discussion should be held once the primaries start and/or when she drops out. --TDKR Chicago 101 (talk) 19:50, 13 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose a credible candidate running a substantial campaign. While the "political positions" section is something of a content-fork, the rest of the article has enough campaign-related content that merging back would bloat Haley's biography. Walt Yoder (talk) 23:56, 15 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose the campaign is notable, there are large numbers of reliable sources that talk about it and her candidacy is routinely included in virtually every poll taken regarding the primary since he announced his candidacy.XavierGreen (talk) 19:04, 21 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose per others { [ ( jjj 1238 ) ] } 23:18, 21 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose Ms. Haley has raised millions of dollars, received substantive media coverage, and has garnered upwards of 5% support in countless national polls. She is running a substantial campaign and will certainly be on the debate stage. There will only be more information as time progresses. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.254.145.80 (talk) 22:47, 24 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]
    There is no prejudice expressed against re-creating an article at a later point if there is more to discuss. However; there is not really enough to necessitate many of this candidates having separate articles. Maybe later, but now is premature SecretName101 (talk) 04:48, 9 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose. John Hickenlooper and Tim Ryan presidential campaign's articles were very tiny before their own merge, it's not a good comparaison. Nikki Haley's article will be a mess if we merge it with her campaign's article, there's plenty of sources already, and there will be more in the future. --Deansfa (talk) 15:35, 10 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
    Not quite. Much of Haley’s campaign article either duplicates content from her main page, or fails the bar of WP:NOTNEWS and should be excluded regardless of whether in a merge or a revision to the article. SecretName101 (talk) 15:40, 10 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
    And so what? Duplication creates headache, troubles of vision? there's lots of duplicate content on Wikipedia, because topics overlap when they're close to each others. there's duplicate content between Obama's main article and all its related articles as there is duplicate content between this one and her presidential campaign. not the end of the world! --Deansfa (talk) 16:22, 13 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
    The fact that most of it is duplicative evidences the lack of a need for a separate article and the easiness of a merge. SecretName101 (talk) 03:38, 16 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose per User:BD2412 and the other opposers. Additionally, per WP:SS, moving the material from the Haley campaign article to the main Haley bio article would clog up the latter, and give the campaign undue weight in the latter. Anythingyouwant (talk) 04:55, 30 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose. Nikki Haley is still in the race. She still trails Trump, Vivek, and DeSantis, but she still holds strong, especially from her August debate performance. InvadingInvader (userpage, talk) 17:44, 31 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]
The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.


Brothers and Sisters

A quick search on Google suggested that she has three siblings. Why is there no mention of them? If she has siblings, please add a little information on them. If not, please state that she is an only child. It's important to this content, especially since she is running to be president. NaturalEquality (talk) 11:58, 30 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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