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Speedy renaming or speedy merging of categories may be requested only if they meet a speedy criterion, for example WP:C2D (consistency with main article's name) or WP:C2C (consistency with established category tree names). Please see instructions below.
- Determine which speedy criterion applies
- Tag category page with
{{subst:cfr-speedy|New name}}
- List request along with speedy criteria reason under "Current requests" below on this page
Please note that a speedy request must state which of the narrowly defined criteria strictly applies. Hence, any other non-speedy criteria, even "common sense" or "obvious", may be suitable points, but only at a full discussion at WP:Categories for discussion.
Request may take 48 hours to process after listing if there are no objections. This delay allows other users to review the request to ensure that it meets the speedy criteria for speedy renaming or merging, and to raise objections to the proposed change.
Categories that qualify for speedy deletion (per Wikipedia:Criteria for speedy deletion, e.g., "patent nonsense", "recreation") can be tagged with the regular speedy tags, such as {{db|reason}}
with no required delay. Empty categories can be deleted if they remain empty 7 days after tagging with {{db-empty}}. Renaming under C2E may also be processed instantly (at the discretion of an administrator) as it is a variation on G7.
To oppose a speedy request you must record your objection within 48 hours of the nomination. Do this by inserting immediately under the nomination:
- Oppose, (the reasons for your objection). ~~~~
You will not be able to do this by editing the page WP:Categories for discussion. Instead, you should edit the section WP:Categories for discussion#Add requests for speedy renaming and merging here or the page WP:Categories for discussion/Speedy#Add requests for speedy renaming and merging here (WP:CFDS). Be aware that in the course of any discussion, the nomination and its discussion may get moved further down the page purely for organizational convenience – you may need to search WP:CFDS to find the new location. Participate in any ongoing discussion, but unless you withdraw your opposition, a knowledgeable person may eventually bring forward the nomination and discussion to become a regular CFD discussion. At that stage you may add further comments, but your initial opposition will still be considered. However, if after seven days there has been no support for the request, and no response from the nominator, the request may be dropped from further consideration as a speedy.
Contested speedy requests become stale, and can be untagged and delisted after 7 days of inactivity. Optionally, if the discussion may be useful for future reference, it may be copied to the category talk page, with a section heading and {{moved discussion from|[[WP:CFDS]]|2=~~~~}}
. If the nominator wants to revive the process, this may be requested at WP:Categories for discussion (CfD) in accordance with its instructions.
If you belatedly notice and want to oppose a speedy move that has already been processed, contact one of the admins who process the Speedy page. If your objection seems valid, they may reverse the move, or start a full CFD discussion.
Speedy criteria
The category-specific criteria for speedy renaming, or merging are strictly limited to:
C2A: Typographic and spelling fixes
- Correction of spelling errors and capitalization fixes. Differences between British and American spelling (e.g. Harbours → Harbors) are not considered errors; however if the convention of the relevant category tree is to use one form over the other then a rename may be appropriate under C2C. If both spellings exist as otherwise-identical category names, they should be merged.
- Appropriate conversion of hyphens into en dashes or vice versa (e.g. Category:Canada-Russia relations → Category:Canada–Russia relations).
- Correction of obvious grammatical errors, such as a missing conjunction (e.g. Individual frogs toads → Individual frogs and toads). This includes pluralizing a noun in the name of a set category, but not when disagreement might reasonably be anticipated as to whether the category is a topic or set category.
C2B: Consistency with established Wikipedia naming conventions and practices
- Expanding abbreviated country names (e.g. U.S. → United States).
- Disambiguation fixes from an unqualified name (e.g. Category:Washington → Category:Washington (state) or Category:Washington, D.C.).
C2C: Consistency with established category tree names
Bringing a category into line with established naming conventions for that category tree, or into line with the various "x by y", "x of y", or "x in y" categorization conventions specified at Wikipedia:Category names
- This should be used only where there is no room for doubt that the category in question is being used for the standard purpose instead of being a potential subcategory.
- This criterion should be applied only when there is no ambiguity or doubt over the existence of a category naming convention. Such a convention must be well defined and must be overwhelmingly used within the tree. If this is not the case then the category in question must be brought forward to a full Cfd nomination.
- This criterion will not apply in cases where the category tree observes distinctions in local usage (e.g. Category:Transportation in the United States and Category:Transport in the United Kingdom).
C2D: Consistency with main article's name
- Renaming a topic category to match its eponymous page (e.g. Category:The Beatles and The Beatles).
- This applies only if the related page's current name (and by extension, the proposed name for the category) is:
- unambiguous (so it generally does not apply to proposals to remove a disambiguator from the category name, even when the main article is the primary topic of its name, i.e. it does not contain a disambiguator); and
- uncontroversial, either because of longstanding stability at that particular name, or because the page was just moved (i) after a page move discussion resulted in explicit consensus to rename, or (ii) unilaterally to reflect an official renaming which is verified by one or more citations (provided in the nomination). C2D does not apply if the result would be contrary to guidelines at WP:CATNAME, or there is any ongoing discussion about the name of the page or category, or there has been a recent discussion concerning any of the pages that resulted in a no consensus result, or it is controversial in some other way.
- This criterion may also be used to rename a set category in the same circumstances, where the set is defined by a renamed topic; e.g. players for a sports team, or places in a district.
- Before nominating a category to be renamed per WP:C2D, consider whether it makes more sense to move the article instead of the category.
C2E: Author request
- This criterion applies only if the author of a category requests or agrees to renaming within six months of creating the category.
- The criterion does not apply if other editors have populated or changed the category since it was created. "Other editors" includes bots that populated the category, but excludes an editor working with the author on the renaming.
C2F: One eponymous page
- This criterion applies if the category contains only an eponymous article, list, template or media file, provided that the category has not otherwise been emptied shortly before the nomination. The default outcome is an upmerge to the parent categories, where applicable. Nominations should use
{{subst:cfm-speedy}}
(speedy merger) linking to a suitable parent category, or to another appropriate category (e.g. one that is currently on the article).
Admin instructions
When handling the listings:
- Make sure that the listing meets one of the above criteria.
- With the exception of C2E, make sure that it was both listed and tagged at least 48 hours previously.
- Make sure that there is no opposition to the listing; if there is a discussion, check if the opposing user(s) ended up withdrawing their opposition.
If the listing meets these criteria, simply have the category renamed or merged – follow the instructions at Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Administrator instructions, in the section "If the decision is to Rename, Merge, or Delete"; to list it for the bots, use the Speedy moves section.
Applying speedy criteria in full discussions
- A nomination to merge or rename, brought forward as a full CfD, may be speedily closed if the closing administrator is satisfied that:
- The nomination clearly falls within the scope of one of the criteria listed here, and
- No objections have been made within 48 hours of the initial nomination.
- If both these conditions are satisfied, the closure will be regarded as having been a result of a speedy nomination. If any objections have been raised then the CfD nomination will remain in place for the usual 7-day discussion period, to be decided in accordance with expressed consensus.
Add requests for speedy renaming and merging here
If the category and desired change do not match one of the criteria mentioned in C2, do not list it here. Instead, list it in the main CFD section.
If you are in any doubt as to whether it qualifies, do not list it here.
Use the following format on a new line at the beginning of the list:
* [[:Category:old name]] to [[:Category:new name]] – Reason ~~~~
(The four ~ will sign and datestamp the entry automatically.)
If the current name should be redirected rather than deleted, use:
* REDIRECT [[:Category:old name]] to [[:Category:new name]] – Reason ~~~~
To note that human action is required, e.g. updating a template that populates the category, use:
* NO BOTS [[:Category:old name]] to [[:Category:new name]] – Reason ~~~~
Remember to tag the category page with: {{subst:cfr-speedy|New name}}
A request may be completed if it is more than 48 hours old; that is, if the time stamp shown is earlier than 22:51, 3 August 2024 (UTC). Currently, there are 124 open requests (. )
Administrators and page movers: Do not use the "Move" tab to move categories listed here!Categories are processed following the 48-hour discussion period and are moved by a bot. |
Current requests
Please add new requests at the top of the list, preferably with a link to the parent category (in case of C2C) or relevant article (in case of C2D).
- Category:Dynasties by continents to Category:Dynasties by continent – Per every other entry in Category:Categories by continent —General534 (talk) 21:27, 21 December 2023 (UTC)
- Category:Hispanic and Latino American people by state to Category:Hispanic and Latino American people by state or territory – C2C: Parent is American people by state or territory Mason (talk) 19:48, 21 December 2023 (UTC)
- Category:Bangladesh Red Crescent Society Chairman to Category:Bangladesh Red Crescent Society chairmen – lowercase and plural form. Pichpich (talk) 19:35, 21 December 2023 (UTC)
- Category:Lists of companies of the United States by state to Category:Lists of companies of the United States by state or territory – C2C: per Category:Categories by state or territory of the United States. –Aidan721 (talk) 19:31, 21 December 2023 (UTC)
- Category:Defunct railroad companies of the United States by state to Category:Railroad companies of the United States by state or territory – C2C: per Category:Categories by state or territory of the United States. –Aidan721 (talk) 19:30, 21 December 2023 (UTC)
- Category:Defunct manufacturing companies of the United States by state to Category:Defunct manufacturing companies of the United States by state or territory – C2C: per Category:Categories by state or territory of the United States. –Aidan721 (talk) 19:29, 21 December 2023 (UTC)
- Category:Defunct companies of the United States by state to Category:Defunct companies of the United States by state or territory – C2C: per Category:Categories by state or territory of the United States. –Aidan721 (talk) 19:27, 21 December 2023 (UTC)
- Category:Railroads of the United States by state to Category:Railroads of the United States by state or territory – C2C: per Category:Categories by state or territory of the United States. –Aidan721 (talk) 19:27, 21 December 2023 (UTC)
- Category:Transportation companies of the United States by state to Category:Transportation companies of the United States by state or territory – C2C: per Category:Categories by state or territory of the United States. –Aidan721 (talk) 19:27, 21 December 2023 (UTC)
- Category:Software companies of the United States by state to Category:Software companies of the United States by state or territory – C2C: per Category:Categories by state or territory of the United States. –Aidan721 (talk) 19:26, 21 December 2023 (UTC)
- Category:Retail companies of the United States by state to Category:Retail companies of the United States by state or territory – C2C: per Category:Categories by state or territory of the United States. –Aidan721 (talk) 19:26, 21 December 2023 (UTC)
- Category:Privately held companies of the United States by state to Category:Privately held companies of the United States by state or territory – C2C: per Category:Categories by state or territory of the United States. –Aidan721 (talk) 19:25, 21 December 2023 (UTC)
- Category:Manufacturing companies in the United States by state to Category:Manufacturing companies of the United States by state or territory – C2C: per Category:Categories by state or territory of the United States. –Aidan721 (talk) 19:25, 21 December 2023 (UTC)
- Category:Insurance companies of the United States by state to Category:Insurance companies of the United States by state or territory – C2C: per Category:Categories by state or territory of the United States. –Aidan721 (talk) 19:25, 21 December 2023 (UTC)
- Category:Vegetarian restaurants in the United States by state to Category:Vegetarian restaurants in the United States by state or territory – C2C: per Category:Categories by state or territory of the United States. –Aidan721 (talk) 19:24, 21 December 2023 (UTC)
- Category:Seafood restaurants in the United States by state to Category:Seafood restaurants in the United States by state or territory – C2C: per Category:Categories by state or territory of the United States. –Aidan721 (talk) 19:24, 21 December 2023 (UTC)
- Category:New American restaurants in the United States by state to Category:New American restaurants in the United States by state or territory – C2C: per Category:Categories by state or territory of the United States. –Aidan721 (talk) 19:23, 21 December 2023 (UTC)
- Category:Mexican restaurants in the United States by state to Category:Mexican restaurants in the United States by state or territory – C2C: per Category:Categories by state or territory of the United States. –Aidan721 (talk) 19:23, 21 December 2023 (UTC)
- Category:Latin American restaurants in the United States by state to Category:Latin American restaurants in the United States by state or territory – C2C: per Category:Categories by state or territory of the United States. –Aidan721 (talk) 19:23, 21 December 2023 (UTC)
- Category:Italian restaurants in the United States by state to Category:Italian restaurants in the United States by state or territory – C2C: per Category:Categories by state or territory of the United States. –Aidan721 (talk) 19:22, 21 December 2023 (UTC)
- Category:French restaurants in the United States by state to Category:French restaurants in the United States by state or territory – C2C: per Category:Categories by state or territory of the United States. –Aidan721 (talk) 19:22, 21 December 2023 (UTC)
- Category:European restaurants in the United States by state to Category:European restaurants in the United States by state or territory – C2C: per Category:Categories by state or territory of the United States. –Aidan721 (talk) 19:22, 21 December 2023 (UTC)
- Category:Defunct European restaurants in the United States by state to Category:Defunct European restaurants in the United States by state or territory – C2C: per Category:Categories by state or territory of the United States. –Aidan721 (talk) 19:21, 21 December 2023 (UTC)
- Category:Defunct restaurants in the United States by state to Category:Defunct restaurants in the United States by state or territory – C2C: per Category:Categories by state or territory of the United States. –Aidan721 (talk) 19:21, 21 December 2023 (UTC)
- Category:Japanese restaurants in the United States by state to Category:Japanese restaurants in the United States by state or territory – C2C: per Category:Categories by state or territory of the United States. –Aidan721 (talk) 19:21, 21 December 2023 (UTC)
- Category:Chinese restaurants in the United States by state to Category:Chinese restaurants in the United States by state or territory – C2C: per Category:Categories by state or territory of the United States. –Aidan721 (talk) 19:20, 21 December 2023 (UTC)
- Category:Asian restaurants in the United States by state to Category:Asian restaurants in the United States by state or territory – C2C: per Category:Categories by state or territory of the United States. –Aidan721 (talk) 19:20, 21 December 2023 (UTC)
- Category:Restaurants in the United States by state to Category:Restaurants in the United States by state or territory – C2C: per Category:Categories by state or territory of the United States. –Aidan721 (talk) 19:20, 21 December 2023 (UTC)
- Category:Taverns in the United States by state to Category:Taverns in the United States by state or territory – C2C: per Category:Categories by state or territory of the United States. –Aidan721 (talk) 19:19, 21 December 2023 (UTC)
- Category:Nightclubs in the United States by state to Category:Nightclubs in the United States by state or territory – C2C: per Category:Categories by state or territory of the United States. –Aidan721 (talk) 19:19, 21 December 2023 (UTC)
- Category:Drinking establishments in the United States by state to Category:Drinking establishments in the United States by state or territory – C2C: per Category:Categories by state or territory of the United States. –Aidan721 (talk) 19:19, 21 December 2023 (UTC)
- Category:Distilleries in the United States by state to Category:Distilleries in the United States by state or territory – C2C: per Category:Categories by state or territory of the United States. –Aidan721 (talk) 19:18, 21 December 2023 (UTC)
- Category:Beer brewing companies in the United States by state to Category:Beer brewing companies in the United States by state or territory – C2C: per Category:Categories by state or territory of the United States. –Aidan721 (talk) 19:18, 21 December 2023 (UTC)
- Category:Food and drink companies in the United States by state to Category:Food and drink companies in the United States by state or territory – C2C: per Category:Categories by state or territory of the United States. –Aidan721 (talk) 19:18, 21 December 2023 (UTC)
- Category:Financial services companies of the United States by state to Category:Financial services companies of the United States by state or territory – C2C: per Category:Categories by state or territory of the United States. –Aidan721 (talk) 19:17, 21 December 2023 (UTC)
- Category:Credit unions of the United States by state to Category:Credit unions of the United States by state or territory – C2C: per Category:Categories by state or territory of the United States. –Aidan721 (talk) 19:17, 21 December 2023 (UTC)
- Category:Cooperatives in the United States by state to Category:Cooperatives in the United States by state or territory – C2C: per Category:Categories by state or territory of the United States. –Aidan721 (talk) 19:16, 21 December 2023 (UTC)
- Category:Book publishing companies of the United States by state to Category:Book publishing companies in the United States by state or territory – C2C: per Category:Categories by state or territory of the United States. –Aidan721 (talk) 19:16, 21 December 2023 (UTC)
- Category:Bank buildings in the United States by state to Category:Bank buildings in the United States by state or territory – C2C: per Category:Categories by state or territory of the United States. –Aidan721 (talk) 19:15, 21 December 2023 (UTC)
- Category:Banks in the United States by state to Category:Banks in the United States by state or territory – C2C: per Category:Categories by state or territory of the United States. –Aidan721 (talk) 19:15, 21 December 2023 (UTC)
- Category:Airlines of the United States by state to Category:Airlines of the United States by state or territory – C2C: per Category:Categories by state or territory of the United States. –Aidan721 (talk) 19:15, 21 December 2023 (UTC)
- Category:Companies of the United States by state to Category:Companies of the United States by state or territory – C2C: per Category:Categories by state or territory of the United States. –Aidan721 (talk) 19:14, 21 December 2023 (UTC)
- Category:Wine regions of the United States by state to Category:Wine regions of the United States by state or territory – C2C: per Category:Categories by state or territory of the United States. –Aidan721 (talk) 19:13, 21 December 2023 (UTC)
- Category:Lists of plantation complexes in the United States by state to Category:Lists of plantation complexes in the United States by state or territory – C2C: per Category:Categories by state or territory of the United States. –Aidan721 (talk) 19:13, 21 December 2023 (UTC)
- Category:Plantation houses in the United States by state to Category:Plantation houses in the United States by state or territory – C2C: per Category:Categories by state or territory of the United States. –Aidan721 (talk) 19:12, 21 December 2023 (UTC)
- Category:Plantations in the United States by state to Category:Plantations in the United States by state or territory – C2C: per Category:Categories by state or territory of the United States. –Aidan721 (talk) 19:12, 21 December 2023 (UTC)
- Category:Farms in the United States by state to Category:Farms in the United States by state or territory – C2C: per Category:Categories by state or territory of the United States. –Aidan721 (talk) 19:12, 21 December 2023 (UTC)
- Category:Agriculture in the United States by state to Category:Agriculture in the United States by state or territory – C2C: per Category:Categories by state or territory of the United States. –Aidan721 (talk) 19:11, 21 December 2023 (UTC)
- Category:Tourist attractions in the United States by state and populated place to Category:Tourist attractions in the United States by state or territory and populated place – C2C: per Category:Categories by state or territory of the United States. –Aidan721 (talk) 19:11, 21 December 2023 (UTC)
- Category:Economy of the United States by state and city to Category:Economy of the United States by state or territory and city – C2C: per Category:Categories by state or territory of the United States. –Aidan721 (talk) 19:10, 21 December 2023 (UTC)
- Category:Economy of the United States by state to Category:Economy of the United States by state or territory – C2C: per Category:Categories by state or territory of the United States. –Aidan721 (talk) 19:08, 21 December 2023 (UTC)
- Category:American culture by state and city to Category:American culture by state or territory and city – C2C: per Category:American culture by state or territory. –Aidan721 (talk) 19:07, 21 December 2023 (UTC)
- Category:American people by state by occupation to Category:American people by state or territory and occupation – C2C: per Category:American people by state or territory and Category:American people by location and occupation. –Aidan721 (talk) 19:01, 21 December 2023 (UTC)
- Category:American people by period and state to Category:American people by period and state or territory – C2C: per Category:American people by state or territory. –Aidan721 (talk) 18:59, 21 December 2023 (UTC)
- Category:American people by occupation and state to Category:American people by occupation and state or territory – C2C: per Category:American people by state or territory. –Aidan721 (talk) 18:57, 21 December 2023 (UTC)
- Category:Sportspeople by country and city to Category:Sportspeople by country and populated place – C2C: per Category:Sportspeople by populated place. –Aidan721 (talk) 18:47, 21 December 2023 (UTC)
- Category:Neighborhoods of Monterrey to Category:Neighborhoods in Monterrey – C2C. (CC) Tbhotch™ 15:20, 21 December 2023 (UTC)
- Category:Neighbourhoods in Mexico to Category:Neighborhoods in Mexico – C2C: Possibly "Colonias in Mexico" since that's what they are, but is more consistent now (CC) Tbhotch™ 15:19, 21 December 2023 (UTC)
- Category:People from Berazino to Category:People from Byerazino – C2D. Mellk (talk) 13:22, 21 December 2023 (UTC)
- Category:Liozna District to Category:Lyozna District – C2D. Mellk (talk) 13:18, 21 December 2023 (UTC)
- Category:People from Liozna District to Category:People from Lyozna District – C2D. Mellk (talk) 13:17, 21 December 2023 (UTC)
- DELETE Category:Jewish ice hockey players per WP:G4 – Recreation of a category deleted last month after a community decision, with the addition of an American child: Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2023 October 24#Category:Jewish chess players. There's no such thing as Jewish ice hockey. Place Clichy (talk) 09:49, 21 December 2023 (UTC)
- Oppose Hi @Place Clichy, I created the category. Let me explain my reasoning. Omnis Scientia (talk) 13:02, 21 December 2023 (UTC)
- @Place Clichy, of course there isn't such a thing as Jewish ice hockey but Jewish people do play ice hockey and hence are Jewish sportspeople. Omnis Scientia (talk) 13:08, 21 December 2023 (UTC)
- Category:Fictional conservationists and environmentalists to Category:Fictional environmentalists – C2C. –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 07:24, 21 December 2023 (UTC)
- Category:18th-century Jewish physicians of Portugal to Category:18th-century Jewish Portuguese physicians – C2C: norm is not "of" Jewish Portuguese physicians Mason (talk) 05:57, 21 December 2023 (UTC)
- Category:17th-century Jewish physicians of Portugal to Category:17th-century Jewish Portuguese physicians – C2C: norm is Jewish Portuguese physicians Mason (talk) 05:56, 21 December 2023 (UTC)
- Category:Fictional ancient Egyptians to Category:Fictional ancient Egyptian people – C2C. –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 05:28, 21 December 2023 (UTC)
- Category:19th-century American people by state to Category:19th-century American people by state or territory – C2C: Parent is American people by state or territory; also per Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2023_December_1#Category:People_from_the_United_States_by_state Mason (talk) 04:47, 21 December 2023 (UTC)
- Category:Executed American people by state to Category:Executed American people by state or territory – C2C: Parent is American people by state or territory; also per Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2023_December_1#Category:People_from_the_United_States_by_state Mason (talk) 04:46, 21 December 2023 (UTC)
- Category:Films about organ trafficking to Category:Films about organ trade – C2C. –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 04:11, 21 December 2023 (UTC)
- Category:Films about brain transplants to Category:Films about brain transplantation – C2A: Category:Organ transplantation in fiction –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 04:10, 21 December 2023 (UTC)
- Category:Brain–computer interfacing to Category:Brain–computer interface – C2D. –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 03:59, 21 December 2023 (UTC)
- Category:Science in fiction by theme to Category:Fiction about science – C2C: Unnecessarily specific; new title by now aligns with most of the first-level subcatgories of Category:Fiction by topic. –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 03:56, 21 December 2023 (UTC)
- Category:Television episodes about prejudice and discrimination to Category:Television episodes about discrimination – C2C: Category:Discrimination in fiction. –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 03:42, 21 December 2023 (UTC)
- Category:Frazioni of the Province of Turin to Category:Frazioni of the Metropolitan City of Turin – C2C: Re-named (with same territory) in 2015 Crowsus (talk) 02:03, 21 December 2023 (UTC)
- Category:People from the Province of Turin to Category:People from the Metropolitan City of Turin – C2C: Re-named (with same territory) in 2015 Crowsus (talk) 02:02, 21 December 2023 (UTC)
- Category:Rivers of the Province of Turin to Category:Rivers of the Metropolitan City of Turin – C2C: Re-named (with same territory) in 2015 Crowsus (talk) 02:02, 21 December 2023 (UTC)
- Category:Churches in the province of Turin to Category:Churches in the Metropolitan City of Turin – C2C: Re-named (with same territory) in 2015 Crowsus (talk) 02:01, 21 December 2023 (UTC)
- Category:Frazioni of the Province of Rome to Category:Frazioni of the Metropolitan City of Rome Capital – C2C: Re-named (with same territory) in 2015 Crowsus (talk) 01:59, 21 December 2023 (UTC)
- Category:Rivers of the Province of Rome to Category:Rivers of the Metropolitan City of Rome Capital – C2C: Re-named (with same territory) in 2015 Crowsus (talk) 01:58, 21 December 2023 (UTC)
- Category:Frazioni of the Province of Naples to Category:Frazioni of the Metropolitan City of Naples – C2C: Re-named (with same territory) in 2015 Crowsus (talk) 01:57, 21 December 2023 (UTC)
- Category:Rivers of the Province of Naples to Category:Rivers of the Metropolitan City of Naples – C2C: Re-named (with same territory) in 2015 Crowsus (talk) 01:56, 21 December 2023 (UTC)
- Category:Buildings and structures in the Province of Genoa to Category:Buildings and structures in the Metropolitan City of Genoa – C2C: Re-named (with same territory) in 2015 Crowsus (talk) 01:55, 21 December 2023 (UTC)
- Category:Rivers of the Province of Cagliari to Category:Rivers of the Metropolitan City of Cagliari – C2C: Re-named (with same territory) in 2016 Crowsus (talk) 01:54, 21 December 2023 (UTC)
- Category:People from the Province of Cagliari to Category:People from the Metropolitan City of Cagliari – C2C: Re-named (with same territory) in 2016 Crowsus (talk) 01:50, 21 December 2023 (UTC)
- Category:Frazioni of the Province of Cagliari to Category:Frazioni of the Metropolitan City of Cagliari – C2C: Re-named (with same territory) in 2016 Crowsus (talk) 01:49, 21 December 2023 (UTC)
- Category:Province of Palermo to Category:Metropolitan City of Palermo – C2C: Re-named (with same territory) in 2015 Crowsus (talk) 01:26, 21 December 2023 (UTC)
- Category:Albums produced by T-Minus (record producer) to Category:Albums produced by T-Minus (producer) – C2D: Per T-Minus (producer). Steel1943 (talk) 20:00, 20 December 2023 (UTC)
- Category:Lists of National Monuments of Ireland to Category:Lists of national monuments of Ireland – C2A. Tagged by Jenks24 on November 15, not listed. * Pppery * it has begun... 18:41, 20 December 2023 (UTC)
- Category:National Monuments of Ireland to Category:National monuments of Ireland
- Category:National Monuments of Ireland by county to Category:National monuments of Ireland by county
- NO BOTS Category:National Monuments of Ireland templates to Category:National monuments of Ireland templates
- I think they were listed, and there is probably some reason why they were not moved and not untagged, one needs to look at the history of this page.--Ymblanter (talk) 19:21, 20 December 2023 (UTC)
- Category:Yoruba legal professionals to Category:Yoruba lawyers – C2C: parent is Lawyers by ethnicity. And there is no "legal professionals" category. Mason (talk) 16:54, 20 December 2023 (UTC)
- Category:Twins from ancient Rome to Category:Ancient Roman twins – C2B: see siblings in Category:Ancient Romans Mason (talk) 14:39, 20 December 2023 (UTC)
- Oppose name change referring to 'Ancient Roman twins', just make them sound like elderly twins who live in Rome. Randy Kryn (talk) 14:44, 20 December 2023 (UTC)
- @Mason, I personally agree with the name change (C2C with Category:Twins by nationality) but I think it should go to full Cfd. Omnis Scientia (talk) 22:13, 20 December 2023 (UTC)
- Sure, @Omnis Scientia would you like to do the honors? @Randy Kryn, all the ancient roman categories are named like this. Mason (talk) 22:43, 20 December 2023 (UTC)
- Category:Yiddish film actors to Category:Yiddish-speaking film actors – C2A: parent is Yiddish-speaking people by occupation Mason (talk) 14:35, 20 December 2023 (UTC)
- Oppose. Maybe you want a separate category for Yiddish-speaking actors, but Yiddish Theater and Yiddish film are distinct from people who speak the languages and are actors. Jahaza (talk) 07:14, 21 December 2023 (UTC)
- The corresponding article is Yiddish cinema. In fact, since many Yiddish cinema films were silent, it may not even be the case that all Yiddish film actors are Yiddish speakers! Jahaza (talk) 07:16, 21 December 2023 (UTC)
- Oppose. Maybe you want a separate category for Yiddish-speaking actors, but Yiddish Theater and Yiddish film are distinct from people who speak the languages and are actors. Jahaza (talk) 07:14, 21 December 2023 (UTC)
- Category:Little Spain to Category:Little Spain, Manhattan – C2D. Article name is Little Spain, Manhattan. Omnis Scientia (talk) 11:23, 20 December 2023 (UTC)
- Category:People by area within Toronto to Category:People from Toronto by area – C2D; to match names in category Category:People by city district or neighborhood. Also, splitter is at the end by default. Omnis Scientia (talk) 10:24, 20 December 2023 (UTC)
- Category:People by locality in Berlin to Category:People from Berlin by locality – C2D; to match names in category Category:People by city district or neighborhood. Also, splitter is at the end by default. Omnis Scientia (talk) 10:24, 20 December 2023 (UTC)
- Category:People by ward in Tokyo to Category:People from Tokyo by ward – C2D; to match names in category Category:People by city district or neighborhood. Also, splitter is at the end by default. Omnis Scientia (talk) 10:24, 20 December 2023 (UTC)
- Category:People by Los Angeles district or neighborhood to Category:People from Los Angeles by district or neighborhood – C2D; parent category is Category:People from Los Angeles. Also, splitter is at the end by default. Omnis Scientia (talk) 10:19, 20 December 2023 (UTC)
- Category:People by New York City neighborhood to Category:People from New York City by neighborhood – C2D; parent category is Category:People from New York City. Also, splitter is at the end by default. Omnis Scientia (talk) 10:16, 20 December 2023 (UTC)
- Category:Latin veterinarians to Category:Ancient Roman veterinarians – C2C: parent is Ancient Romans by occupation Mason (talk) 03:52, 20 December 2023 (UTC)
- Category:Christianity in dependent territories to Category:Christianity by dependent territory – C2A: Parent is Religion by dependent territory Mason (talk) 01:04, 20 December 2023 (UTC)
- Category:Religion by former country and by continent to Category:Religion by former country and continent – C2A: grammar Mason (talk) 00:31, 20 December 2023 (UTC)
- Category:Christianity by continent and by country to Category:Christianity by continent and country – C2A: grammar Mason (talk) 00:22, 20 December 2023 (UTC)
- Category:United States Army National Guard to Category:Army National Guard - C2B - organization's title is *not* "United States Army National Guard," it is correctly known as the Army National Guard.Buckshot06 (talk) 22:14, 19 December 2023 (UTC)
- Oppose speedy. This rename makes the category more amibigious. Mason (talk) 00:29, 20 December 2023 (UTC)
- It is better to disambiguate it to Category:Army National Guard (United States), that should be done in full discussion of course. Marcocapelle (talk) 06:27, 20 December 2023 (UTC)
- Oppose speedy. This rename makes the category more amibigious. Mason (talk) 00:29, 20 December 2023 (UTC)
- Category:Fictional British postal workers to Category:Fictional British postal officials – C2C. Sahaib (talk) 21:48, 19 December 2023 (UTC)
- Category:Fictional American postal workers to Category:Fictional American postal officials – C2C. Sahaib (talk) 21:48, 19 December 2023 (UTC)
- Oppose per common name. Jahaza (talk) 07:19, 21 December 2023 (UTC)
- Category:Fictional postal workers to Category:Fictional postal officials – C2C. Sahaib (talk) 21:48, 19 December 2023 (UTC)
- Category:Languages of Upper Chitral to Category:Languages of Upper Chitral District – C2E: I missed "District", also C2C per Category:Upper Chitral District. Marcocapelle (talk) 19:37, 19 December 2023 (UTC)
- Category:Languages of Lower Chitral to Category:Languages of Lower Chitral District – C2E: I missed "District", also C2C per Category:Lower Chitral District. Marcocapelle (talk) 19:36, 19 December 2023 (UTC)
- Category:Police in anime and manga to Category:Anime and manga about law enforcement – C2C: Combining the pivot toward "Fiction about X" with the name of the parent category, Category:Law enforcement in fiction. –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 18:00, 19 December 2023 (UTC)
- Category:Members of the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith to Category:Members of the Dicastery for the Doctrine of the Faith – C2C Category:Dicastery for the Doctrine of the Faith and C2D Dicastery for the Doctrine of the Faith Jahaza (talk) 17:31, 19 December 2023 (UTC)
- Category:Documents of the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith to Category:Documents of the Dicastery for the Doctrine of the Faith – C2C Category:Dicastery for the Doctrine of the Faith and C2D Dicastery for the Doctrine of the Faith Jahaza (talk) 17:28, 19 December 2023 (UTC)
- Category:Fictional arms dealers to Category:Fictional arms traders – C2C: Real-world counterpart is Category:Arms traders. –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 17:24, 19 December 2023 (UTC)
- I suggest reverse. Arms dealer and arms trader both appear once in the relevant article. We have an article List of illegal arms dealers and the one article with a disambiguator in the parent category uses "(arms dealer)" to disambiguate. Jahaza (talk) 07:24, 21 December 2023 (UTC)
- Category:British art by town or city to Category:British art by populated place – C2C: parent is Categories by populated place, and the norm is that "town or city" should be renamed to populated place Mason (talk) 22:32, 18 December 2023 (UTC)
- Oppose, on the basis that the parent categories are "by city", so the category hierarchy needs sorting out first. Sionk (talk) 11:53, 19 December 2023 (UTC)
- Are you speedy opposing or generally opposing? @Sionk Mason (talk) 22:44, 20 December 2023 (UTC)
- Both, I presume. It's not a C2C anyway, because the category tree is "by city". Sionk (talk) 22:51, 20 December 2023 (UTC)
- Oppose, on the basis that the parent categories are "by city", so the category hierarchy needs sorting out first. Sionk (talk) 11:53, 19 December 2023 (UTC)
Opposed requests
- Category:Streets in Rosario, Santa Fe to Category:Streets in Rosario – C2D. Paul Vaurie (talk) 01:37, 18 December 2023 (UTC)
- Category:Rail transport in Rosario, Santa Fe to Category:Rail transport in Rosario – C2D. Paul Vaurie (talk) 01:36, 18 December 2023 (UTC)
- Category:Transport in Rosario, Santa Fe to Category:Transport in Rosario – C2D. Paul Vaurie (talk) 01:36, 18 December 2023 (UTC)
- Category:Tourist attractions in Rosario, Santa Fe to Category:Tourist attractions in Rosario – C2D. Paul Vaurie (talk) 01:36, 18 December 2023 (UTC)
- Category:Football clubs in Rosario, Santa Fe to Category:Football clubs in Rosario – C2D. Paul Vaurie (talk) 01:35, 18 December 2023 (UTC)
- Category:Field hockey clubs in Rosario, Santa Fe to Category:Field hockey clubs in Rosario – C2D. Paul Vaurie (talk) 01:35, 18 December 2023 (UTC)
- Category:Sport in Rosario, Santa Fe to Category:Sport in Rosario – C2D. Paul Vaurie (talk) 01:35, 18 December 2023 (UTC)
- Category:Footballers from Rosario, Santa Fe to Category:Footballers from Rosario – C2D. Paul Vaurie (talk) 01:34, 18 December 2023 (UTC)
- Category:Sportspeople from Rosario, Santa Fe to Category:Sportspeople from Rosario – C2D. Paul Vaurie (talk) 01:34, 18 December 2023 (UTC)
- Category:Singers from Rosario, Santa Fe to Category:Singers from Rosario – C2D. Paul Vaurie (talk) 01:34, 18 December 2023 (UTC)
- Category:Musicians from Rosario, Santa Fe to Category:Musicians from Rosario – C2D. Paul Vaurie (talk) 01:33, 18 December 2023 (UTC)
- Category:Artists from Rosario, Santa Fe to Category:Artists from Rosario – C2D. Paul Vaurie (talk) 01:33, 18 December 2023 (UTC)
- Category:Male actors from Rosario, Santa Fe to Category:Male actors from Rosario – C2D. Paul Vaurie (talk) 01:33, 18 December 2023 (UTC)
- Category:Actresses from Rosario, Santa Fe to Category:Actresses from Rosario – C2D. Paul Vaurie (talk) 01:32, 18 December 2023 (UTC)
- Category:Actors from Rosario, Santa Fe to Category:Actors from Rosario – C2D. Paul Vaurie (talk) 01:32, 18 December 2023 (UTC)
- Category:People from Rosario, Santa Fe by occupation to Category:People from Rosario by occupation – C2D. Paul Vaurie (talk) 01:32, 18 December 2023 (UTC)
- Category:People from Rosario, Santa Fe to Category:People from Rosario – C2D. Paul Vaurie (talk) 01:31, 18 December 2023 (UTC)
- Note Rosario (disambiguation), and ambiguity with Category:People from Rosario, Uruguay. We usually require a full CFD in such cases. But I'm not formally objecting, as a full CFD would probably be carried, following Talk:Rosario#Requested_move_3_December_2023. – Fayenatic London 09:15, 19 December 2023 (UTC)
- Let us move them to a full CfD.--Ymblanter (talk) 11:49, 21 December 2023 (UTC)
- Note Rosario (disambiguation), and ambiguity with Category:People from Rosario, Uruguay. We usually require a full CFD in such cases. But I'm not formally objecting, as a full CFD would probably be carried, following Talk:Rosario#Requested_move_3_December_2023. – Fayenatic London 09:15, 19 December 2023 (UTC)
- Category:Parks in Rosario, Santa Fe to Category:Parks in Rosario – C2D. Paul Vaurie (talk) 01:31, 18 December 2023 (UTC)
- Category:Sports clubs and teams in Rosario, Santa Fe to Category:Sports clubs and teams in Rosario – C2D. Paul Vaurie (talk) 01:30, 18 December 2023 (UTC)
- Category:Companies based in Rosario, Santa Fe to Category:Companies based in Rosario – C2D. Paul Vaurie (talk) 01:29, 18 December 2023 (UTC)
- Category:Organisations based in Rosario, Santa Fe to Category:Organisations based in Rosario – C2D. Paul Vaurie (talk) 01:29, 18 December 2023 (UTC)
- Category:Neighbourhoods of Rosario, Santa Fe to Category:Neighbourhoods of Rosario – C2D. Paul Vaurie (talk) 01:29, 18 December 2023 (UTC)
- Category:Mayors of Rosario, Santa Fe to Category:Mayors of Rosario – C2D. Paul Vaurie (talk) 01:28, 18 December 2023 (UTC)
- Category:Education in Rosario, Santa Fe to Category:Education in Rosario – C2D. Paul Vaurie (talk) 01:28, 18 December 2023 (UTC)
- Category:Culture in Rosario, Santa Fe to Category:Culture in Rosario – C2D. Paul Vaurie (talk) 01:27, 18 December 2023 (UTC)
- Category:Buildings and structures in Rosario, Santa Fe to Category:Buildings and structures in Rosario – C2D. Paul Vaurie (talk) 01:27, 18 December 2023 (UTC)
- Category:Railway stations in Rosario, Santa Fe to Category:Railway stations in Rosario – C2D. Paul Vaurie (talk) 01:27, 18 December 2023 (UTC)
- Category:Plazas in Rosario, Santa Fe to Category:Plazas in Rosario – C2D. Paul Vaurie (talk) 01:27, 18 December 2023 (UTC)
- Category:Museums in Rosario, Santa Fe to Category:Museums in Rosario – C2D. Paul Vaurie (talk) 01:26, 18 December 2023 (UTC)
- Category:Rosario, Santa Fe to Category:Rosario – C2D. Paul Vaurie (talk) 01:25, 18 December 2023 (UTC)
- Category:13th-century religious buildings and structures to Category:Religious buildings and structures completed in the 13th century – C2C: siblings in Category:Buildings and structures completed in the 13th century and children all follow the pattern: Religious buildings and structures completed in the XXXs Mason (talk) 03:14, 16 December 2023 (UTC)
- Oppose speedy, proposal is inconsistent with pattern in Category:Religious buildings and structures by century. Marcocapelle (talk) 11:10, 16 December 2023 (UTC)
- Good point. I should have looked at the parents Mason (talk) 15:51, 16 December 2023 (UTC)
- Oppose speedy, proposal is inconsistent with pattern in Category:Religious buildings and structures by century. Marcocapelle (talk) 11:10, 16 December 2023 (UTC)
- Category:Stereotypes of Native American people to Category:Stereotypes of Native Americans – C2C, per Category:Stereotypes of African Americans and Category:Stereotypes of Asian Americans, and C2D, per Native Americans. Ham II (talk) 20:30, 14 December 2023 (UTC)
- Oppose speedy: not in line with Category:Native American people. Most categories have "Native American people", not "Native Americans". Omnis Scientia (talk) 17:19, 16 December 2023 (UTC)
- Category:Works about African-Americans to Category:Works about African Americans – C2D, per African Americans. Ham II (talk) 20:22, 14 December 2023 (UTC)
- Oppose: not in line with Category:African-Americans. Omnis Scientia (talk) 17:17, 16 December 2023 (UTC)
- Category:African-Americans is a redirect to Category:African-American people. With that knowledge I'd be happy for this to be moved to Category:Works about African-American people instead. Ham II (talk) 21:15, 17 December 2023 (UTC)
- Oppose: not in line with Category:African-Americans. Omnis Scientia (talk) 17:17, 16 December 2023 (UTC)
- Category:Cultural depictions of African-American people to Category:Cultural depictions of African Americans – C2D, per African Americans. Ham II (talk) 20:18, 14 December 2023 (UTC)
- Oppose: Not in line with Category:African-Americans. Omnis Scientia (talk) 17:17, 16 December 2023 (UTC)
- Category:African-Americans is a redirect to Category:African-American people. Knowing that, I'd be happy for this to stay as it is. Ham II (talk) 21:15, 17 December 2023 (UTC)
- Oppose: Not in line with Category:African-Americans. Omnis Scientia (talk) 17:17, 16 December 2023 (UTC)
- Category:Paintings of African-Americans to Category:Paintings of African Americans – C2D, per African Americans. Ham II (talk) 20:16, 14 December 2023 (UTC)
- oppose speedy. These hypen changes has far-reaching downstream consequences to a lot of categories Mason (talk) 15:53, 16 December 2023 (UTC)
- Happy for this to become Category:Paintings of African-American people, though it is unfortunate that none of these categories are currently below Category:African-American people in the category tree, as they're below its sibling category Category:African-American culture (and after that Category:African-American cultural history) instead. Ham II (talk) 21:15, 17 December 2023 (UTC)
- oppose speedy. These hypen changes has far-reaching downstream consequences to a lot of categories Mason (talk) 15:53, 16 December 2023 (UTC)
- Category:Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant to Category:Islamic State – C2D, Title of the main page of the category is "Islamic State". Shadowwarrior8 (talk) 15:29, 14 December 2023 (UTC)
- Category:Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant members to Category:Islamic State members
- Category:Female Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant members to Category:Female Islamic State members
- Category:History of the Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant to Category:History of the Islamic State
- Category:Timelines of ISIL-related events to Category:Timelines of IS-related events
- Category:Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant by country to Category:Islamic State by country
- Category:Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant in Afghanistan to Category:Islamic State in Afghanistan
- I have only tagged these categories now.--Ymblanter (talk) 22:36, 14 December 2023 (UTC)
- Oppose all "Islamic State" targets as too ambiguous, see also Islamic state (disambiguation). Marcocapelle (talk) 12:42, 15 December 2023 (UTC)
- I have only tagged these categories now.--Ymblanter (talk) 22:36, 14 December 2023 (UTC)
On hold pending other discussion
- Category:Actresses by city or town in France to Category:Actresses by populated place in France – C2C: per Category:Actresses by country and populated place and Category:French actors by populated place –Aidan721 (talk) 21:13, 12 December 2023 (UTC)
- Category:Actresses by city or town in China to Category:Actresses by populated place in China – C2C: per Category:Actresses by country and populated place and Category:Actors by populated place in China –Aidan721 (talk) 21:13, 12 December 2023 (UTC)
- Category:Actresses by city or town in Canada to Category:Actresses by populated place in Canada – C2C: per Category:Actresses by country and populated place and Category:Actors by populated place in Canada –Aidan721 (talk) 21:12, 12 December 2023 (UTC)
- Category:Actresses by city or town in Brazil to Category:Actresses by populated place in Brazil – C2C: per Category:Actresses by country and populated place and Category:Actors by populated place in Brazil –Aidan721 (talk) 21:12, 12 December 2023 (UTC)
- @Aidan721: these four should have the splitter at the end, WP:C2B, e.g. Category:French actresses by populated place. Marcocapelle (talk) 22:17, 12 December 2023 (UTC)
- They can be combined for full CfD with the one further down below for full discussion. Marcocapelle (talk) 06:38, 14 December 2023 (UTC)
- On hold while Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2023_December_16#People_by_populated_place_in_the_United_States is open for discussion. Marcocapelle (talk) 22:38, 16 December 2023 (UTC)
- Category:Sportspeople by city or town in Portugal to Category:Sportspeople by populated place in Portugal – C2C: parents is Category:People by populated place in Portugal, and the norm is to rename city or town to populated place Mason (talk) 20:55, 10 December 2023 (UTC)
- @Smasongarrison: the splitter should be at the end, WP:C2B, so it should become Category:Portuguese sportspeople by populated place. Marcocapelle (talk) 22:21, 12 December 2023 (UTC)
- Good catch! Mason (talk) 00:42, 13 December 2023 (UTC)
- That is a good point. The previous rename was a step in the right direction, but not spot on yet, as someone also commented in that discussion. Better move this to full CfD then. Marcocapelle (talk) 06:35, 14 December 2023 (UTC)
- On hold while Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2023_December_16#People_by_populated_place_in_the_United_States is open for discussion. Marcocapelle (talk) 22:38, 16 December 2023 (UTC)
- @Smasongarrison: the splitter should be at the end, WP:C2B, so it should become Category:Portuguese sportspeople by populated place. Marcocapelle (talk) 22:21, 12 December 2023 (UTC)
- Category:Zvenigorodsky Uyezd (Kiev Governorate) to Category:Zvenigorodka uezd – C2D. —Michael Z. 06:30, 30 November 2023 (UTC)
- Category:Vasilkovsky Uyezd to Category:Vasilkov uezd – C2D. —Michael Z. 06:29, 30 November 2023 (UTC)
- Category:Umansky Uyezd to Category:Uman uezd – C2D. —Michael Z. 06:29, 30 November 2023 (UTC)
- Category:Tarashchansky Uyezd to Category:Tarashcha uezd – C2D. —Michael Z. 06:28, 30 November 2023 (UTC)
- Category:Skvirsky Uyezd to Category:Skvira uezd – C2D. —Michael Z. 06:28, 30 November 2023 (UTC)
- Category:Radomyslsky Uyezd to Category:Radomysl uezd – C2D. —Michael Z. 06:28, 30 November 2023 (UTC)
- Category:Lipovetsky Uyezd to Category:Lipovets uezd – C2D. —Michael Z. 06:28, 30 November 2023 (UTC)
- Category:Kievsky Uyezd to Category:Kiev uezd – C2D. —Michael Z. 06:27, 30 November 2023 (UTC)
- Category:Kanevsky Uyezd to Category:Kanev uezd – C2D. —Michael Z. 06:27, 30 November 2023 (UTC)
- Category:Chigirinsky Uyezd to Category:Chigirin uezd – C2D. —Michael Z. 06:27, 30 November 2023 (UTC)
- Category:Cherkassky Uyezd to Category:Cherkassy uezd – C2D. —Michael Z. 06:27, 30 November 2023 (UTC)
- Category:Berdichevsky Uyezd to Category:Berdichev uezd – C2D. —Michael Z. 06:26, 30 November 2023 (UTC)
- Category:Tiraspolsky Uyezd to Category:Tiraspol uezd – C2D. —Michael Z. 06:22, 30 November 2023 (UTC)
- Category:Odessky Uyezd to Category:Odessa uezd – C2D. —Michael Z. 06:21, 30 November 2023 (UTC)
- Category:Khersonsky Uyezd to Category:Kherson uezd – C2D. —Michael Z. 06:21, 30 November 2023 (UTC)
- Category:Ananyevsky Uyezd to Category:Ananyevsky uezd – C2D. —Michael Z. 06:21, 30 November 2023 (UTC)
- Category:Aleksandriysky Uyezd to Category:Aleksandriya uezd – C2D. —Michael Z. 06:20, 30 November 2023 (UTC)
- I did not check all the articles but those I checked were moved earlier this year without any discussion by a relatively new user and the current names are at variance with other names of the uezds of the Russian Empire. I would have no issues with renaming everything from uyezd to uezd as this one went through a RM. Ymblanter (talk) 06:44, 30 November 2023 (UTC)
- Fair. I guess we should start a general discussion on this? There are uezds with Baltic names, and there may be some in Ukraine that should be named X povit. —Michael Z. 17:20, 1 December 2023 (UTC)
- Yes, I think there should be a discussion on the naming of the uezds. Ymblanter (talk) 21:29, 1 December 2023 (UTC)
That discussion has already happened, see Talk:Uezd, so these renamings are valid and welcome. – Fayenatic London 14:55, 2 December 2023 (UTC)- No, we are not talking about this one. We re talking about whether it should be Khersonsky Uezd or Kherson Uezd. Ymblanter (talk) 15:02, 2 December 2023 (UTC)
- Yes, and also capitalization of X Uezd/X uezd in these names. —Michael Z. 16:20, 2 December 2023 (UTC)
- Oops, sorry. Please carry on… – Fayenatic London 11:14, 5 December 2023 (UTC)
- @Mzajac and Ymblanter: please go ahead moving this to full CfD. Marcocapelle (talk) 12:51, 15 December 2023 (UTC)
- I’m declining to move forward with this yet, as I realize the main articles are not consistently named with the broader set. I hope to go through all of the articles on uezds in Ukraine and ensure they are consistently named first. Then the respective categories can follow. But I don’t mind if someone else proposes renaming these categories right away. —Michael Z. 16:08, 15 December 2023 (UTC)
- Starting with Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Ukraine#Titles of articles on Ukrainian povits/uezds. —Michael Z. 17:26, 15 December 2023 (UTC)
- @Mzajac and Ymblanter: please go ahead moving this to full CfD. Marcocapelle (talk) 12:51, 15 December 2023 (UTC)
- Oops, sorry. Please carry on… – Fayenatic London 11:14, 5 December 2023 (UTC)
- Yes, and also capitalization of X Uezd/X uezd in these names. —Michael Z. 16:20, 2 December 2023 (UTC)
- No, we are not talking about this one. We re talking about whether it should be Khersonsky Uezd or Kherson Uezd. Ymblanter (talk) 15:02, 2 December 2023 (UTC)
- Yes, I think there should be a discussion on the naming of the uezds. Ymblanter (talk) 21:29, 1 December 2023 (UTC)
- Fair. I guess we should start a general discussion on this? There are uezds with Baltic names, and there may be some in Ukraine that should be named X povit. —Michael Z. 17:20, 1 December 2023 (UTC)
- I did not check all the articles but those I checked were moved earlier this year without any discussion by a relatively new user and the current names are at variance with other names of the uezds of the Russian Empire. I would have no issues with renaming everything from uyezd to uezd as this one went through a RM. Ymblanter (talk) 06:44, 30 November 2023 (UTC)
Moved to full discussion
- Category:People from the United States by county to Category:People by county in the United States – C2C; matches name of the parent category and other categories in the Category:People by populated place in the United States. Omnis Scientia (talk) 13:15, 2 December 2023 (UTC)
- Shouldn't this become Category:American people by county? And the other one Category:American people by populated place? Marcocapelle (talk) 21:24, 2 December 2023 (UTC)
- Also, this category has been renamed in full discussion: Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2023_October_1#X_by_Y_in_Z. Marcocapelle (talk) 21:44, 2 December 2023 (UTC)
- @Marcocapelle, I would indeed agree that it should be "American people by" but shouldn't that be discussed at full Cfd, since the rest of the categories in Category:People by populated place in the United States also stated with "People of the United States by..."?
- Also, I don't think this particular category was discussed in the discussion you linked. Omnis Scientia (talk) 09:44, 3 December 2023 (UTC)
- Yes, it was, see [1]. Marcocapelle (talk) 14:03, 3 December 2023 (UTC)
- Ah, I completely missed that. Thank you! I wasn't aware of this. But I would say that the other categories should also be named with such a format. Omnis Scientia (talk) 14:15, 3 December 2023 (UTC)
- Yes, it was, see [1]. Marcocapelle (talk) 14:03, 3 December 2023 (UTC)
- Moved to full discussion. Marcocapelle (talk) 22:38, 16 December 2023 (UTC)
- Category:Ukrainian American to Category:Ukrainian diaspora in the United States – C2C per Category:Ukrainian diaspora by country. Place Clichy (talk) 01:38, 1 December 2023 (UTC)
- Oppose. Not consistant with the category names in Category:Eastern Europeans in the United States. Omnis Scientia (talk) 17:09, 1 December 2023 (UTC)
- I suppose Category:Eastern Europeans in the United States and all of its subcategories can be speedied in conjunction. But maybe it is better done in full discussion. Marcocapelle (talk) 18:10, 1 December 2023 (UTC)
- Agreed. In which case my vote should be actually be Oppose speedy. Omnis Scientia (talk) 20:34, 1 December 2023 (UTC)
- I suppose Category:Eastern Europeans in the United States and all of its subcategories can be speedied in conjunction. But maybe it is better done in full discussion. Marcocapelle (talk) 18:10, 1 December 2023 (UTC)
- Oppose. Not consistant with the category names in Category:Eastern Europeans in the United States. Omnis Scientia (talk) 17:09, 1 December 2023 (UTC)
- Moved to full discussion. Marcocapelle (talk) 20:49, 16 December 2023 (UTC)
- Category:South Carolina colonial people to Category:People from colonial South Carolina
- Category:Virginia colonial people to Category:People from colonial Virginia – C2C; "People of" is how the other categories are named in Category:People of the Thirteen Colonies by colony; it also matches the name of the parent category. Omnis Scientia (talk) 21:05, 1 December 2023 (UTC)
- @Omnis Scientia: do you intend to have it renamed to "of" instead rather than "from"? Marcocapelle (talk) 11:33, 2 December 2023 (UTC)
- Good catch! Yes, it is meant to be "of". Thank you, I completely missed that error. Omnis Scientia (talk) 11:42, 2 December 2023 (UTC)
- I would argue that "people from" should be used under C2B, see Wikipedia:Category_names#Former_nationalities. The siblings using "of" should be renamed using "from". – Fayenatic London 14:52, 2 December 2023 (UTC)
- That is probably even better. Marcocapelle (talk) 15:09, 2 December 2023 (UTC)
- @Fayenatic london, if we are going to change it, I would say that we use the name of the colonies (as they were known at the time of American independence) instead of "colonial Virginia" or "colonial Massachusetts", rather like Category:People of the Province of New York is. So instead of "colonial Massachusetts", it would be "People from the Province of Massachusetts Bay". Omnis Scientia (talk) 20:45, 2 December 2023 (UTC)
- I think that anything more complicated than what's already been proposed would be worth having a full discussion. Personally, I think colonial Massachusetts is helpful as it's more informative/descriptive Mason (talk) 01:28, 3 December 2023 (UTC)
- Makes sense. In which case, I think we should rename the categories not with "colonial" (New York and Georgia). Additionally, this a category called Category:American colonial people by state which is rather wrongly named. Omnis Scientia (talk) 10:30, 3 December 2023 (UTC)
- I think that anything more complicated than what's already been proposed would be worth having a full discussion. Personally, I think colonial Massachusetts is helpful as it's more informative/descriptive Mason (talk) 01:28, 3 December 2023 (UTC)
- I would argue that "people from" should be used under C2B, see Wikipedia:Category_names#Former_nationalities. The siblings using "of" should be renamed using "from". – Fayenatic London 14:52, 2 December 2023 (UTC)
- Good catch! Yes, it is meant to be "of". Thank you, I completely missed that error. Omnis Scientia (talk) 11:42, 2 December 2023 (UTC)
- @Omnis Scientia: do you intend to have it renamed to "of" instead rather than "from"? Marcocapelle (talk) 11:33, 2 December 2023 (UTC)
- Category:Virginia colonial people to Category:People from colonial Virginia – C2C; "People of" is how the other categories are named in Category:People of the Thirteen Colonies by colony; it also matches the name of the parent category. Omnis Scientia (talk) 21:05, 1 December 2023 (UTC)
- Category:Fictional self-sacrifices to Category:Fictional martyrs – C2C: Real-life counterpart is Category:Martyrs, and parent is Category:Martyrdom in fiction. –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 21:26, 17 November 2023 (UTC)
- @LaundryPizza03: not sure about this. The word martyr is mostly used in religious context. Marcocapelle (talk) 22:50, 17 November 2023 (UTC)
- @Marcocapelle: I'm not sure simply a "self-sacrifice" is defining. Then again, I'm not sure if being a martyr is either. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 00:31, 19 November 2023 (UTC)
- @LaundryPizza03: not sure about this. The word martyr is mostly used in religious context. Marcocapelle (talk) 22:50, 17 November 2023 (UTC)
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