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The result was soft delete. Based on minimal participation, this uncontroversial nomination is treated as an expired PROD (a.k.a. "soft deletion"). Editors can request the article's undeletion. Editors can create a redirect if they so choose. Liz Read! Talk! 00:31, 4 August 2024 (UTC)
- Matt Firor (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Insufficiently sourced and doesn't appear notable, redirect to ZeniMax Online Studios? IgelRM (talk) 21:31, 25 July 2024 (UTC)
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- Delete Agree with the nomination. Very few strong RS mentions and does not appear to meet WP:GNG criteria. I vote to delete. Go4thProsper (talk) 16:32, 3 August 2024 (UTC)
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The result was keep. I see a consensus to Keep this article and there have been no response to my relisting comment. Liz Read! Talk! 23:44, 14 August 2024 (UTC)
- Portugal 1111: A Conquista de Soure (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Fails WP:GNG, with few reviews or significant coverage in reliable sources. This is one of the only reviews I could find, and it's in a publication of uncertain reliability. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 17:39, 24 July 2024 (UTC)
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- Comment: Lists PTGamers.com and Gamerstek.com under external links. Primary source [1] IgelRM (talk) 12:29, 25 July 2024 (UTC)
- Both sites are now dead, which doesn't speak towards their reliability. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 13:58, 25 July 2024 (UTC)
DeleteKeep - Gamerstek review is archived here: [2]. According to their about page, they had a video game section in Destak newspaper, which indicates some sort of reliability. However, it's a moot point if there are no other potential reliable sources since 1 review is not enough. PTGamers.com review ref seems completely dead, but looking at their archived main site ([3]) there doesn't seem to be an about page or similar, I can't find anything to indicate any reliability. --Mika1h (talk) 18:36, 27 July 2024 (UTC)- Forgot to mention that Push Start ref, which is an independently published digital magazine, seems unreliable to me looking at the editorial page: [4]. --Mika1h (talk) 18:46, 27 July 2024 (UTC)
- Gamerstek and Mega Score reviews are enough for GNG. --Mika1h (talk) 08:58, 30 July 2024 (UTC)
- Forgot to mention that Push Start ref, which is an independently published digital magazine, seems unreliable to me looking at the editorial page: [4]. --Mika1h (talk) 18:46, 27 July 2024 (UTC)
- Comment - The game got in-depth coverage in a June 2004 issue of Mega Score, including an interview (p.30, 31), and a review (p.70, 71). The only other coverage I was able to find is a brief mention of the game in a 2021 article from the newspaper Observador about video games about Portugal. It's possible that the game got coverage in Portuguese newspapers at the time of release (Newspapers.com has no Portuguese newspapers unfortunately and I wouldn't know where else to look), as the Observator article and the interview in Mega Score indicate that the game was partially funded by Soure city hall. Waxworker (talk) 19:05, 28 July 2024 (UTC)
- I found a dead link from TSF (radio station). It might be useful to mention the game on the Visão article. IgelRM (talk) 13:49, 29 July 2024 (UTC)
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Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, The Herald (Benison) (talk) 21:21, 31 July 2024 (UTC)- Keep per the reviews presented above. Two reliable reviews, good enough for me. PARAKANYAA (talk) 22:05, 31 July 2024 (UTC)
- Keep. Reviews presented show the page can be retained. Add the 1 paragraph in Observador (linked above by Waxworker) https://observador.pt/2021/03/17/nao-e-so-em-civilization-vi-ha-mais-4-series-de-videojogos-onde-pode-controlar-portugal/ ; a 5-page article dedicated to the game: https://www.researchgate.net/publication/235915242_Um_estudo_das_dinamicas_de_apropriacao_do_jogo_Portugal_1111_-_A_Conquista_de_Soure_em_contexto_escolar and I think that should be enough. -My, oh my! (Mushy Yank) 23:44, 31 July 2024 (UTC)
- The Observador source is a list with a few sentences about the game. SBGames, the paper's publisher, is the "Simpósio Brasileiro de Jogos e Entretenimento Digital", not sure that is enough. IgelRM (talk) 21:03, 1 August 2024 (UTC)
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Relisting comment: Relisting because although there is a consensus to Keep there is a challenge on whether sources are of a sufficient quality to establish notability.
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The result was delete. Liz Read! Talk! 05:28, 1 August 2024 (UTC)
- Ciberbit (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Written like an advertisement and fails WP:NCORP with a lack of any significant coverage in reliable sources. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 17:30, 24 July 2024 (UTC)
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- Keep The company is known for its cooperation with Microsoft and its influence on the IT industry in the country. --Loewstisch (talk) 11:08, 25 July 2024 (UTC)
- There's still no evidence it passes WP:NCORP, which is a requirement for a standalone page, a vague claim it is influential is not enough. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 14:06, 25 July 2024 (UTC)
- Known for influence in the country, with no coverage about it? Can you provide any articles about this influence? Oaktree b (talk) 23:03, 31 July 2024 (UTC)
- Delete This is a company therefore GNG/WP:NCORP requires at least two deep or significant sources with each source containing "Independent Content" showing in-depth information *on the company*. "Independent content", in order to count towards establishing notability, must include original and independent opinion, analysis, investigation, and fact checking that are clearly attributable to a source unaffiliated to the subject. I'm unable to identify any references that meet the criteria for establishing notability. HighKing++ 11:42, 31 July 2024 (UTC)
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- Delete: Literally no coverage other than their website found. Working with Microsoft in this case means publishing games on their platform, which isn't notable. They make software, but don't describe what it is or why it's notable, further hindering our efforts to prove notability. I can't find anything about this commercial enterprise. Oaktree b (talk) 23:02, 31 July 2024 (UTC)
- Delete: No sign of notability anywhere. I'm not even sure if it still exists. Looks like a relic from the past when notability standards were much less strict. C F A 💬 01:56, 1 August 2024 (UTC)
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The result was redirect to Jon Radoff. Liz Read! Talk! 05:16, 1 August 2024 (UTC)
- Beamable (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Most if not all articles about Disruptor Beam and Beamable are simple announcements that fail WP:CORPDEPTH criteria. The article itself appears to fail WP:NCORP without significant coverage. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 14:06, 23 July 2024 (UTC)
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- Redirect to Jon Radoff per WP:ATD. IgelRM (talk) 21:37, 25 July 2024 (UTC)
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- Redirect to Jon Radoff per WP:ATD - none of the sourcing meets GNG/WP:NCORP criteria for establishing notability. HighKing++ 11:34, 31 July 2024 (UTC)
- Redirect to Jon Radoff as a viable ATD per HighKing. Sal2100 (talk) 21:51, 31 July 2024 (UTC)
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The result was redirect to Digital Eel. If you disagree with the Redirect target, you can discuss it on the talk page. Liz Read! Talk! 22:46, 4 August 2024 (UTC)
- Iikka Keränen (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Doesn't appear notable, redirect to Digital Eel? IgelRM (talk) 19:08, 21 July 2024 (UTC)
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- Redirect as above or to Doom modding#Commercial WADs. Doesn't meet WP:GNG. Tau Corvi (talk) 19:20, 22 July 2024 (UTC)
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Relisting comment: Two different Redirect target articles suggested.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz Read! Talk! 23:23, 28 July 2024 (UTC)- Redirect to Digital Eel. Both are good redirect targets but I prefer this one. --Mika1h (talk) 15:22, 30 July 2024 (UTC)
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The result was redirect to Pelaaja. Liz Read! Talk! 22:44, 4 August 2024 (UTC)
- Miika Huttunen (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Doesn't appear notable, redirect to Pelaaja? IgelRM (talk) 19:01, 21 July 2024 (UTC)
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- Redirect to Pelaaja. Finnish version has some paywalled articles in reliable sources ([5], [6]) but I doubt they are significant coverage. --Mika1h (talk) 15:14, 30 July 2024 (UTC)
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The result was no consensus. The initial mistake combined with divided opinions among the other participants unsurprisingly produced no consensus after multiple relists. RL0919 (talk) 20:59, 10 August 2024 (UTC)
- Harry M. Rubin (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Upon review of article and its sources, the person in question does not meet the notability guidelines in question: the person is not (1) cited by 3rd party sources other than websites that repeat his bio as an official founder of Samuel Adams beer (2) known for originating a new concept [see point #1] (3) become a significant monument, etc. (4) He is not cited as by peers and 3rd party sources for the work that is well-known or significant. The article was written by a blocked user and could primarily serve the purpose of self promotion as defined in WP:NOTADVERT. P3D7AQ09M6 (talk)
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- Delete. This is just a CV. No notability. ApLundell (talk) 05:01, 20 July 2024 (UTC)
- If deleted Harry Rubin (virologist) should be moved to the base name since Harry Rubin redirects here.--67.70.101.117 (talk) 23:48, 20 July 2024 (UTC)
- Hi Folks, My apologies, I actually meant to nominate Harry Rubin (virologist) Late night editing got the best of me. Upon a 2nd look at this article in particular, I found new reputable secondary sources to that show indeed this Harry Rubin was indeed a Samuel Adams co-founder. I'm closing going to close this deletion nomination in favor of doing some work to improve the article itself. P3D7AQ09M6 (talk) 04:28, 21 July 2024 (UTC)
- Maybe delete both of them.
- Being a minor, behind-the-scenes partner of a business does not make someone notable.
- ApLundell (talk) 05:57, 21 July 2024 (UTC)
- In the spirit of WP:GD I'm going to suggest that we pursue a constructive alternative such as improving or cleaning up the article. Two main reasons (1) Being one of the Samuel Adams founders both within the beverage field and just generally is definitely a major contribution. It looks he was not the frontman, but, indeed, he's been recognized by multiple secondary sources as being a founder and his involvement in various beverage investments is notable enough to be topic of headlines. As you probably know, media outlets have full control over headlines, which means that these media outlets viewed his involvement as "the story". On a more basic level, Samuel Adams is also billion dollar major conglomerate, it's widely recognized, and is part of the American social milieu (2) I digged into other secondary sources and there's quite a few other significant achievements such as being one of the people who started GT Interactive, which launched DOOM (a major video game) (3) This nomination was a careless mistake on my part so it's kind of a fluke nomination. My apologies again to all for that bonehead error and for wasting folks time reviewing this!
- re: Harry Rubin (virologist) Even though I intended to nominate it, I also now lean towards keeping it. Mostly because his achievements within his specific domain are quite significant.
- If we deny this deletion nomination, I can take an action item to improve both pages.P3D7AQ09M6 (talk) 22:18, 21 July 2024 (UTC)
- Comment: See also AFD'ed C. M. Rubin, his partner. IgelRM (talk) 08:36, 23 July 2024 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Relisting. We need to hear from more editors as the nominator states they didn't mean to nominate this article (so a withdrawal of sorts) but an editor is arguing for deletion.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz Read! Talk! 02:05, 27 July 2024 (UTC)
- Keep: Assuming this is for Harry M. Rubin? Solid keep ... Sam Adams founding is notable + impact in AAA game studios with solid set of citations. Recommend the Harry Rubin (virologist) AFD be posted separately? John.mark1956 (talk) 03:30, 28 July 2024 (UTC)
- Delete Not notable and written like a resume. Delete. Go4thProsper (talk) 22:58, 29 July 2024 (UTC)
- Keep for the reasons I described above. As Liz mentioned above, I think withdrawing this nomination also makes sense. P3D7AQ09M6 (talk) 18:34, 30 July 2024 (UTC)
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Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz Read! Talk! 20:44, 3 August 2024 (UTC)- As an investor in the IPO of Boston Beer Company in December of 1995, I recall that in the final offering prospectus filed with the SEC, Harry M. Rubin was listed as one of the largest owners of the company. Hence, he had to be one of the significant original partners and not a minor behind-the-scenes partner as queried in the 21 July comment above. I did not retain the SEC offering prospectus, but it can be requested from the SEC from their archives. Pete S Williams (talk) 05:55, 10 August 2024 (UTC)
- I'm not seeing sources that rise to the level of the GNG. Which, given the bio, shocks me more than a bit. Hobit (talk) 18:20, 6 August 2024 (UTC)
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