Wikipedia:Requested moves

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Requested moves is a process for requesting the retitling (moving) of an article, template, or project page on Wikipedia. For retitling files, categories and other items, see When not to use this page.

Please read the article titling policy and the guideline regarding primary topics before moving a page or requesting a page move.

Any autoconfirmed user can use the Move function to perform most moves (see Help:How to move a page). If you have no reason to expect a dispute concerning a move, be bold and move the page. However, it may not always be possible or desirable to do this:

Technical reasons may prevent a move; for example, a page may already exist at the target title and require deletion, or the page may be protected from moves. See: § Requesting technical moves.
Requests to revert recent, undiscussed, controversial moves may be made at WP:RM/TR. If the new name has not become the stable title, the undiscussed move will be reverted. If the new name has become the stable title, a requested move will be needed to determine the article's proper location.
A title may be disputed, and discussion may be necessary to reach consensus: see § Requesting controversial and potentially controversial moves. The requested moves process is not mandatory, and sometimes an informal discussion at the article's talk page can help reach consensus.
A page should not be moved and a new move discussion should not be opened when there is already an open move request on a talk page. Instead, please participate in the open discussion.
Unregistered and new (not yet autoconfirmed) users are unable to move pages.

Requests are generally processed after seven days. If consensus to move the page is reached at or after this time, a reviewer will carry out the request. If there is a consensus not to move the page, the request will be closed as "not moved". When consensus remains unclear, the request may be relisted to allow more time for consensus to develop, or the discussion may be closed as "no consensus". See Wikipedia:Requested moves/Closing instructions for more details on the process.

Wikipedia:Move review can be used to contest the outcome of a move request as long as all steps are followed. If a discussion on the closer's talk page does not resolve an issue, then a move review will evaluate the close of the move discussion to determine whether or not the contested close was reasonable and consistent with the spirit and intent of common practice, policies, and guidelines.

When not to use this page

Shortcuts

Separate processes exist for moving certain types of pages, and for changes other than page moves:

Making an uncontroversial move – if you can, be bold and do it yourself! If you can't, see § Requesting technical moves.
Renaming a category – propose the move at Wikipedia:Categories for discussion.
Renaming a stub template – propose the move at Wikipedia:Categories for discussion.
Renaming an image or other file – see Wikipedia:Moving a page § Moving a file page.
Moves from draft namespace or user space to article space – Unconfirmed users: add {{subst:submit}} to the top of the article. See Wikipedia:Articles for creation. Confirmed users: Move the page yourself.
Merging two articles – make a request at Wikipedia:Proposed mergers, or be bold and do it yourself.
Splitting an article – make a request at Wikipedia:Proposed article splits, or be bold and do it yourself.
Requesting that page histories be merged – list them at Wikipedia:Requests for history merge.
Contesting a move request close – use the Wikipedia:Move review process.

Undiscussed moves

Shortcuts

Autoconfirmed editors may move a page without discussion if all of the following apply:

No article exists at the new target title;
There has been no previous discussion about the title of the page that expressed any objection to a new title; and
It seems unlikely that anyone would reasonably disagree with the move.

If you disagree with a prior bold move, and the new title has not been in place for a long time, you may revert the move yourself. If you cannot revert the move for technical reasons, then you may request a technical move.

Move wars are disruptive, so if you make a bold move and it is reverted, do not make the move again. Instead, follow the procedures laid out in § Requesting controversial and potentially controversial moves.

Uncontroversial proposals

Only list proposals here that are clearly uncontroversial but require administrator help to complete (for example, spelling and capitalization fixes). Do not list a proposed page move in this section if there is any possibility that it could be opposed by anyone. Please list new requests at the bottom of the list in this section and use {{subst:RMassist|Old page name|Requested name|Reason for move}} rather than copying previous entries. The template will automatically include your signature. No edits to the article's talk page are required.

If you object to a proposal listed here, please re-list it in the #Incomplete and contested proposals section below.

Incomplete and contested proposals

With the exception of a brief description of the problem or objection to the move request, please do not discuss move requests here. If you support an incomplete or contested move request, please consider following the instructions above to create a full move request, and move the discussion to the "Other Proposals" section below. Requests that remain incomplete after five days will be removed.

Primera División de México → Primera División Profesional — because it is tthe official name of the league and Premira Division de Mexico does not sound right, and with Profesional it sounds more Profesional, an example would be that La Liga from Spain is not called Primera Division de España -- $\sim$ Kaka12o ( ) 18:44, 3 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Incomplete. JPG-GR (talk) 05:26, 4 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Whalley, British Columbia → Whalley/City Centre — The town center is officially named Whalley/City Centre, no longer just Whalley as per the city of Surrey website. — Knowledgeum : Talk 06:58, 1 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- The '/' sign does not pronounce and looks to me somewhat like a WP:MOSTM. Many people likely treat "Whalley/City Centre" as meaning "the city center of Whalley". This official (from which office?) rename looks advertisory. Anthony Appleyard (talk) 09:19, 1 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  - As per the official city website "Six town centres make up Surrey: Fleetwood, Whalley/City Centre, Guildford, Newton, Cloverdale, and South Surrey." As memory serves they made this change to make it easier for those not framiliar with the area to locate where the city centre is in the rather large city. I am trying to locate any documents from city council but will have to wait until after the holidays for any supporting documents (other than the official website). Knowledgeum : Talk 09:55, 1 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- This use of '/' may merely mean "Whalley, which is the city centre". Anthony Appleyard (talk) 10:12, 1 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  - I don't work with Canadian geography, but I do know that in very many cases, it's improper to leave out the province name. You'd probably do best to bring this up at the Canada or BC wikiprojects; if you get consensus there for this move, you could then easily get it moved in the noncontroversial section of this page. Nyttend (talk) 12:46, 3 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

As per convention of Foo of/in Country. I request a move here because there are likely several similar articles (and categories?) throughout Wikipedia which should be renamed (see below for more examples). — Setanta747 (talk) 03:45, 31 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Canals of Great Britain → Canals of the United Kingdom
- List of canal locks in Great Britain → List of canal locks in the United Kingdom
- List of canal aqueducts in Great Britain → List of canal aqueducts in the United Kingdom
- List of canal tunnels in Great Britain → List of canal tunnels in the United Kingdom
  - The issue here seems to be that the canals in Northern Ireland are included in Canals of Ireland. In other words, the articles are currently island-based, as opposed to nation-based. The island is called Great Britain, and if we want an article about Canals of the United Kingdom, then the Northern Ireland canals should be moved. I don't know which option is preferable. -GTBacchus^(talk) 14:55, 2 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Other proposals

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5 September 2008

Risk Management Plan → Risk management plan —(Discuss)— Capitalization --Leo Laursen – ✍ ⌘ 08:02, 5 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Kačanik → Kaçanik —(Discuss)— Due to the new status and the majority population -- C D 06:59, 5 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Attractive Nuisance → Attractive Nuisance (album) —(Discuss)— Attractive Nuisance is a legal concept, borrowed for the title of a record album. The primary article should be the legal concept, with a disambiguation link to the album --Paul Foxworthy (talk) 03:13, 5 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Chocolate-coated marshmallow treats → Chocolate Tea Cakes —(Discuss)— I am proposing that we change the name of 'Chocolate-coated marshmallow treats' to 'Chocolate Teacakes. The name is abit daft and to biased towards an American spelling. When I googled Chocolate Tea cakes, I got 506,000 results. But when I googled Chocolate-coated marshmallow treats, I only got 2,320 results. So would it not make sense to rename it 'Chocolate Tea Cakes'? Its much more relevant. --Teacake Martyr (talk) 14:57, 5 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

In Search of Sunrise: North American Summer Tour 2008 → In Search of Sunrise: Summer Tour 2008 —(Discuss)— The tour does not involve only North America, the tour includes Europe as a leg of the tour and therefore it should be changed to a more broad title. Rather than creating a new article titled "In Search of Sunrise: European Summer Tour 2008", it is better for both articles to be included together but first the title must be changed in order to add the new information on the European leg --Lonelysoulq (talk) 21:16, 5 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

4 September 2008

Altamont Motorsports Park → Altamont Raceway Park —(Discuss)— New name of the track per Track website. --Gateman1997 (talk) 23:38, 4 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Devil Summoner → Shin Megami Tensei: Devil Summoner —(Discuss)— Change to complete title. Currently Shin Megami Tensei: Devil Summoner is just a redirect, so it won't affect a lot if anything. --SharkD (talk) 23:32, 4 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

GC17 → Gold Coast Football Club —(Discuss)— Official club name now announced --The-Pope (talk) 12:56, 4 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Decline of the Roman Empire → Fall of the Roman Empire —(Discuss)— Per WP:Name, this is the most common name. ~~Already agreed on by consensus in talk page discussion.~~ --Carl.bunderson (talk) 07:41, 4 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

International recognition of Abkhazia and South Ossetia → International Reaction to the Independence of Abkhazia and South Ossetia‎ —(Discuss)— We agreed on talk page that the original should be split in two. I've already made a page for International Recognition of Abkhazia and South Ossetia‎ and now we need this page moved to avoid confusion. Thank you!

Shuttle: the Space Flight Simulator (Virgin game) → Shuttle (game) —(Discuss)— The phrase, "the Space Flight Simulator" is just a subtitle/tagline for the game, not its actual name. --—/Mendaliv/^2¢/_Δ's/ 00:20, 4 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

1977 Tenerife KLM-Pan Am 747 runway collision → Tenerife airport disaster —(Discuss)— partially fix a previous undiscussed move. Move over redirect required --MickMacNee (talk) 00:15, 4 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

There's not uniform agreement on dropping out the year on this proposed title. Several, including me, prefer 1977 Tenerife airport disaster. See the talk pages of the article for details. -- Yellowdesk (talk) 06:00, 5 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

3 September 2008

Woodstock → Woodstock (disambiguation) —(Discuss)— Primary topic identified. Request for current page to be moved to dab page with Woodstock becoming a redirect to Woodstock Festival --Viriditas (talk) 23:10, 3 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

EuroBasket 2005 Women → EuroBasket Women 2005 - (Discuss) — consistensy with names of similar articles — Nitsansh (talk) 20:25, 3 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Diocletianic Persecution → Great Persecution —(Discuss)— Nowhere (outside Wikipedia) is the term "Diocletianic Persecution" in wide use. Most reliable sources use the term "Great Persecution" to define the matter for study. Not all of Diocletian's persecutions are covered by the subject matter of the "Great Persecution" as traditionally defined. Not all persecutions covered by the subject matter of the "Great Persecution" as traditionally defined are strictly 'Diocletianic'. --Geuiwogbil (Talk) 16:27, 3 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Siemens AG → Siemens —(Discuss)— The company's brand name is Siemens, the "AG" just means that it is a publicly listed company, and shouldn't be part of the article's name --Axt (talk) 10:45, 3 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Hugo Boss AG → Hugo Boss —(Discuss)— The company's brand name is Hugo Boss, the "AG" just means that it is a publicly listed company, and shouldn't be part of the article's name --Axt (talk) 10:45, 3 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Every Second Counts (game show) → Every Second Counts (UK game show) —(Discuss)— To remove confusion arising from current disambiguation arrangements, there being another page Every Second Counts (US game show). Should be uncontroversial, but just in case there is some other reason for the current arrangment. --Neonumbers (talk) 09:34, 3 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Twin Tower (disambiguation) → Twin Towers —(Discuss)— Moving disambiguation page back to main title per WP:DAB. --Trystan (talk) 06:03, 3 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

2 September 2008

Robert Lange → ? —(Discuss)— Usually credited as either "Mutt Lange" or "Robert John 'Mutt' Lange". —Ten Pound Hammer and his otters • ^{(Broken clamshells • Otter chirps • HELP)} 20:24, 2 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Meleke → Jerusalem stone - (Discuss) - This page name was changed to an Arabic name. Jerusalem stone is the common English name and in accordance with Wikipedia policy on common names for commonly discussed stones. See: Manhattan schist, Puddingstone and Indiana Limestone. Jerusalem stone is the name used in tens of thousands of books and articles. Mekele is a foreign word scarcely used in English.Elan26 (talk) 18:41, 2 September 2008 (UTC)Elan26[reply]

Fictional film → Fiction film —(Discuss)—As seen at the archive, a long and rancorous debate closed with no consensus. The main objection IMHO was that the literature uses the term "fictional film" to mean "a film that is a work of fiction" and that the OED apparently doesn't list "fiction" as having use as an adjective. However, as the main objector himself acknowledged, both the terms "fiction film" and "fictional film" are used in the literature, including my the co-author of the book to which he pointed as definitive. That the OED does or doesn't note contemporary usage of the word "fiction" is not relevant, as common sense tells us that the word is used as an adjective in ordinary English usage. "Fictional" used to mean "contained within a work of fiction" is in widespread if not overwhelming usage across Wikipedia, with no fewer than 5,526 resultsin category names alone. Of particular note is Category:Fictional films, which collects articles on films that exist only within other works of fiction. By contrast, the Category:Fiction structure (including Category:Fiction books, a usage of which the objector claimed never to have heard before) deals with works of fiction. Clearly, maintaining this article at its current title is in conflict with a number of usage conventions within Wikipedia. Moving it resolves the ambiguity, allows for the creation of an article about fictional films should someone care to write one and brings the article in line with how things are done throughout the project. --Otto4711 (talk) 18:07, 2 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Sui Generis → Sui Generis (band) —(Discuss)— per Wikipedia:Naming_conventions_(precision)#Minor_spelling_variations, the article should be renamed to avoid confusion with Sui generis (small g). — supernorton 09:56, 2 September 2008 (UTC) --supernorton 09:57, 2 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Toponymy of Mexico → Name of Mexico —(Discuss)— The previous discussion made the problem with the current title obvious, but nothing has been done about it for over a year now. "Name of Mexico" is in line with the other "Name of country" articles, such as Name of Argentina, Name of Brazil, and Name of Canada. The other suggested titles would deviate from the currently established naming standard without justifiable reason in the form of article content difference. --Neelix (talk) 01:14, 2 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

1 September 2008

Stóːlō → Sto:lo - (Discuss) - for the same reasons, or at least change it to Stó:lō, same as the catname (only if that stays the same); one additional reason is this article name doesn't use the same special characters as teh catname does; if anything this should have the same diacriticals as teh category (which are at least similar and don't have that space, which we never seen in printed English). This re-opens the old Sḵwx̱wú7mesh/Skwxwu7mesh issue also, and likewise while the article maybe can/should have the special characters, it's cumbersome to have it in the category name. If catnames redirected the way article names did, this wouldn't be so much of a problem, but it is a problem.Skookum1 (talk) 16:49, 26 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Completed, and relisting. JPG-GR (talk) 23:47, 1 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Joseon Dynasty → Joseon —(Discuss)— Analogously to Goryeo, because the usage of the term "Joseon" throughout is confusing with a title like "Joseon Dynasty" (to English speakers), and Joseon redirects here. --Srnec (talk) 22:55, 1 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Akhalgori → Leningor —(Discuss)— Leningor is the Ossetian name of the town under Ossetian rule, therefore moving it is exigent --Bogorm (talk) 17:37, 1 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Rudolph I of Germany → Rudolph of Habsburg —(Discuss)— "Like Philip of Swabia, we should call the "Kings of the Romans" what most historians actually call them." –User:Pmanderson, --Srnec (talk) 05:56, 1 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- I am listing this move on behalf of the quoted user, since it was formally proposed at the talk page but not listed here. Srnec (talk) 05:56, 1 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

7.62 Tkiv 85 → 7.62 TKIV 85 —(Discuss)— The Finnish Defence Forces use the 7.62 TKIV 85 nomenclature for this rifle. — Francis Flinch (talk) 17:52, 1 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

31 August 2008

List of World Eight-ball Champions → List of World Eight-ball champions —(Discuss)— Recently moved from "champions" to "Champions", which has been disputed. --199.125.109.126 (talk) 23:09, 31 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

List of Roman Catholic bishops of Lwów → List of Roman Catholic bishops of Lviv —(Discuss)— The title should use the current name of the city. --— Kpalion^(talk) 19:50, 31 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

St Pancras railway station → ? —(Discuss)— I think the time has come to seek external input on whether the name of this station should include "London" and/or "International" —Tevildo (talk) 19:34, 31 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Tetяis: The Soviet Mind Game → Tetris: The Soviet Mind Game —(Discuss)— MOS:TM states that "Follow standard English text formatting and capitalization rules even if the trademark owner encourages special treatment". --Mika1h (talk) 19:04, 31 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Bachelor of Computer Science → Bachelor of Science in Computer Science —(Discuss)— Wikipedia article naming policy is to use the most well-known name, and the most well-known name according to Google is the proposed new title. --NerdyNSK (talk) 14:24, 31 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Dave MacKinnon (footballer) → Dave MacKinnon —(Discuss)— Recently the subject of a copy & paste move, the page Dave MacKinnon is just a redirect to a list of election candidates; it makes more sense for this page to occupy the main spot and for a dablink to be placed at the top for people looking for the politican. --Qwghlm (talk) 11:37, 31 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Backlog

Move dated sections here after five days have passed (August 21 or older).

Drukpa → Drukpa Kagyu — (Discuss)- The most common use of the word Drukpa is for "the People of Bhutan" a "Bhutanese person" or "Bhutanese" whereas the religious school is properly called "Drukpa Kagyu" in all academic sources and in most sources in Tibetan and Dzongkha languages. Chris Fynn (talk) 21:27, 30 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Pilsen → Plzeň —(Discuss)— Current, more common name of this Czech city, "Pilsen" has fallen in disuse since the Germans left the city after World War II. --Húsönd 17:57, 29 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Yanartaş → Chimera (geography) —(Discuss)— Chimera is the official name of this place, as you will see the official Turkish road sign for historical places that read "Chimaera" when you go there. Yanartaş only means Burning Rock in Turkish and it is only the colloquial name for the place. --Elmalili (talk) 09:31, 28 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]