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Unmerrited Article Merger -- Proposition (Grammar) with Proposition

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– Jezhotwells (talk) 17:16, 3 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

The Article Proposition (Grammar) (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) which deals with the linguistic use of that term in describing various grammar phenomena has been merged twice today with the overall Proposition article which while also talking about sentences is an article which is primarily about the use of the term in philosophy. My article has NOTHING to do with philosophy and the pages which reference it are linguistic pages and not philosophy pages. To avoid confusion the article is named Proposition (Grammar) because it is about propositions in linguistic analysis of grammar and not philosophical arguments of logic.

I have unmerged it twice and asked on the discussion page that it be left that way pending discussion. This has not happened. Please protect the grammar article until this can be resolved. Drew.ward (talk) 20:14, 21 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I invite any linguist and grammarian to judge this request on its merits. But let me add that it misrepresents ever so slightly what is going on: editor is trying to draw some absolute distinction between grammar and philosophy, but connecting these two is logic, which he does not mention, and which is in fact takes up a large part of Proposition. "Philosophical arguments of logic" is a vaguerie, and whatever it may denote, it is not what is going on in Proposition. Please see also Talk:Proposition (Grammar). Thank you. Drmies (talk) 20:57, 21 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

So the two of you are in a deadlock. You could ask for a WP:Third Opinion or start an WP:RfC. That is the best I can suggest. WE don't do judgement on who is right or wrong here - this will only progress via compromise and editors working together to advance the project. Jezhotwells (talk) 11:44, 26 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/KCKK

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– Jezhotwells (talk) 17:17, 3 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

The page for my company, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/KCKK, is continually vandalized by an anonymous user. I have tried to block anonymous edits to this page, but the vandalism continues. Any assistance you can provide is greatly appreciated.

KCKKRadio (talk) 16:20, 22 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Only admins can protect pages, so I have removed the template that you added to the page. I have warned the IP about the vandalism. If it persists you can request protection at WP:RFP. – ukexpat (talk) 16:36, 22 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Lend America

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– Jezhotwells (talk) 17:18, 3 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

For the past two days, I tried to develop Lend America's stub entry since they were featured in the news in connection with a government investigation:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lend_America

However, since English is not my first language, and since this is the first time I am contributing to Wikipedia, I need help with the citations and grammar. Can someone look at these issues? Thank you! —Preceding unsigned comment added by Wikobetta (talk • contribs) 16:51, 22 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

A blog is not a reliable source, whoever led with that. It would help to start with popular press and back things up with other sources but there is disagreement at this point- I prefer citing primary sources as an aid to reader ( court documents etc) - but it at least has to be something that you can believe as a credible source for whatever you claim. Nerdseeksblonde (talk) 17:06, 22 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Made improvements so that entry does not read like advertisement or spam

Answered

– Jezhotwells (talk) 17:19, 3 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I recently followed Wikipedia's suggestions and made changes so that this article: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/University_of_Illinois_College_of_Medicine

would not read like an advertisement or spam. Can you review it and tell me if it's revised enough to have the spam notice at the top of the page removed? If it's not, what else should be changed? Also, what is the process of having such notices removed; do contributors make changes and wait for a review, or make changes and send the revised article to Wikipedia and request a review? Thanks. 128.248.93.114 (talk) 18:51, 22 October 2009 (UTC) MS[reply]

Looks pretty good. Needs a tad of copy editing, and it definitely needs inline citations. Any newspaper articles you could link to? Anything deal with the history of the place? Any big controversies? Sincerely, GeorgeLouis (talk) 19:46, 22 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

This appears to be a duplicate of College of Medicine at Urbana-Champaign. Jezhotwells (talk) 22:12, 22 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks GeorgeLouis, and thanks Jezhotwells. Also wanted to note that University of Illinois College of Medicine is not a duplicate of College of Medicine at Urbana-Champaign. The Urbana campus is part of the College of Medicine. The college offers a program at four geographic sites: Chicago, Peoria, Rockford, and Urbana 128.248.93.114 (talk) 16:36, 23 October 2009 (UTC)MS[reply]

Jordan Belfort spam

Resolved

– offending editor blocked Jezhotwells (talk) 17:19, 3 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

A series of editors have attempted to turn [Jordan Belfort] into an advertisement. Attempts to engage the editors in discussion are ignored and a revert war appears imminent. Any suggestions? Splorksplorksplork (talk) 04:19, 23 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Now up to third revert. Have added plea to discuss both on user page of spamming editor and article page in question, no engagement. Splorksplorksplork (talk) 05:30, 23 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Added edit war warning to userpage talk for Reaction93 Splorksplorksplork (talk) 05:46, 23 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I ended up blocking the user for 24 hours after warning them myself. It looks like they are willing to engage though, after their block expires, I hope we can come to a compromise version. --Leivick (talk) 08:45, 23 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

warning sighn that appears on the wikipedia page on ayisi makatiani

Answered

– Jezhotwells (talk) 17:20, 3 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Hi

Ref: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ayisi_Makatiani

How can I prevent the warning sign that reads "This article may not meet the general notability guideline...." from appearing at the beggining of the page when infact I have exhausted all my sources yet I still feel the individual is notable enough to warrant there own page. (At least in our corner of the world - Kenya and Africa) for example being a founder of one of the Largest ISP providers in Subsaharan Africa at a time when technological revolution had yet to hit the continent...just an example.

Please assist,

Thanks

<email removed> —Preceding unsigned comment added by 196.202.213.38 (talk) 09:51, 23 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

It doesn't have any sources and simply holding obscure even if "high-level" company positions doesn't usually qualify. Probably he is notable if the statements in article are true but someone needs to document- consider moving external links into inline citations where possible. I'm big on "notable but obscure" but I'm not sure who had noted what about him. Nerdseeksblonde (talk) 11:27, 23 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

is there a means to make editor lists for notifications (spam) on a given topic?

Resolved

– Jezhotwells (talk) 17:21, 3 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

We have a few editors who have contributed to a page but have since had scattered conversations in various places- too many for them all to watch. Is there a way to make a list of editors to which the same message can be sent at once? Nerdseeksblonde (talk) 11:42, 23 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

You can use AutoWikiBrowser to deliver the messages, but you'll have to get the list of editors manually of course. I'm not sure if this is what you're asking though. ≈ Chamal ^talk ¤ 11:52, 23 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I think rather than use a Windoze app in C# I'll just modify my scripts to do this. Users may be better of installing cygwin instead of custom code that only runs on one proprietary OS ( windoze). Nerdseeksblonde (talk) 12:20, 23 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

As I've advertised by creating bogus page, this seems to work now. Fairly simple bash script but it does have failure modes etc. Should work anywhere that supports bash but I haven't tried it on debian yet, works ok on cygwin. Nerdseeksblonde (talk) 14:55, 24 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Automatic Listing in a category is doing it by first name, not last name

Resolved

– sort fixed. Jezhotwells (talk) 21:17, 23 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Dear Friends:

My latest posting 'Edwin Russell' is appearing under 'E' not under 'R' in category of newspaper editors. Is there a way to see that it gets to 'R' ? Thanks,

ETCCERC —Preceding unsigned comment added by Etccerc (talk • contribs) 14:33, 23 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I have added the {{DEFAULTSORT:Russell, Edwin}} code to fix the sorting. – ukexpat (talk) 15:04, 23 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Dick McMahon

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– Jezhotwells (talk) 17:22, 3 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

How can I delete this article written about me? Thanks very much Dickmcmahon (talk) 15:37, 23 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Only admins can delete articles and then only after one of the deletion procedures is followed (WP:CSD, WP:PROD, or WP:AFD). Is the article factually inaccurate? If so we have a mechanism for those errors to be corrected, see WP:BIOSELF. – ukexpat (talk) 15:50, 23 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dick_McMahon It looks like you were a big contributor to it but in current form may fail notability and be deleted anyway. Unsourced information can be removed quickly in BLP articles- you may be able to flag it yourself "db-blp" placed in double curly braces iirc. Nerdseeksblonde (talk) 16:58, 23 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

{{Db-blp}} is for attack pages, which this clearly is not. – ukexpat (talk) 17:08, 23 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Request removal of "cleanup" and "references required" tags

Answered

– Jezhotwells (talk) 17:23, 3 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Hello:

In 2007, prior to my edits, the article was tagged as requiring "cleanup" and "references . . . [to] reliable third-party sources."

Because my edits specifically addressed the tagged concerns, I'd like to request review of the updated entry and removal of the aforementioned tags, assuming the sufficiency of my changes.

Thank you.

--Asiangoose (talk) 19:13, 23 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

If you think the issues have been dealt with please go ahead and removed the tags. Would be a good idea to explain on the article's talk page why you have done so. – ukexpat (talk) 19:16, 23 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

2016 Olympics Edit War

Resolved

– consensus achieved Jezhotwells (talk) 17:24, 3 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, I am requesting that the editors review the 2016 Summer Olympics page for an edit war between registered user Limongi and IP user 67.182.141.118 and Jrgilb. The IP user and Jrgilb referred to safety concerns in their edit history of the page, but Limongi promptly removed such discussion with the rationale that the stated and cited sources for the violence of Rio as "Points of View." While whether the city is safe or not may be a "point of view" simply stating that there are safety problems is not and other Summer Olympic wikis (e.g. 2008 Beijing Games) have other examples of issues facing the Olympics. Therefore, it is my contention that Limongi's edits are unfair and should be reviewed.

Thank you.

130.76.32.145 (talk) 19:48, 23 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

It looks to me as if the additions of material by IPs about safety is couched in highly POV language and thus has been correctly removed. I also note that there is no discussion about this on the talk page. Jezhotwells (talk) 21:15, 23 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

There is a short exchange of views at Talk:2016 Summer Olympics#Crime concern in the city. – ukexpat (talk) 21:38, 23 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Ooops, missed that. I have left a note suggesting an RFC if consensus can't be achieved. Jezhotwells (talk) 00:34, 24 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Sarah Palin: Children's birth dates

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– Jezhotwells (talk) 17:25, 3 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

There is a small squabble about the article on Sarah Palin. Some, including me, would like to include the birth dates of those children who have attained their majority or have been often in the news. Others want to eliminate the birth dates, especially of Track Palin, Sarah Palin’s oldest child. James Nicol (talk) 21:52, 23 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

If you can't achieve consensus on the talk page to include the dates, leave them out. Are any of her children notable in any way? I think not, so it really doesn't matter, does it?Jezhotwells (talk) 00:30, 24 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

No, the reason for including the birthdates is to "prove" that Sarah Palin was pregnant when she got married. I thought that nonsense was settled a year ago. ←Baseball Bugs ^{What's up, Doc?} carrots→ 00:34, 24 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Bugs, you think all the trolls have magically left here and won't come back? They are still here and I doubt they will ever leave. Just part of the project unforetuneately.--Tom (talk) 18:15, 25 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

The trolling has now spilled over to the husbands article. Can somebody step in? TIA --Tom (talk) 03:14, 26 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

If we can't achieve consensus, then let us leave them in. Why would a site whose mission is to provide information default to a position of providing less information? As for "notability", in the biography of a public figure--particularly one who has surrounded herself with her children, one who defines herself (before governor or vice-presidential candidate) as a "mom"--one's children become notable. Indeed, one, her eldest daughter, Bristol, has her own article (yet the Palin-censors won't permit Bristol's birth date to appear in articles about her parents); another had his birth defect proclaimed in every medium just a little over a year ago; and a third has a website that prays for him to be safe in Iraq. Could someone please explain why the date of his enlistment is more pertinent than the date of his birth? James Nicol (talk) 05:09, 26 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

punch cards, APL, Fortran, Cobol, dotnet, Java, i could go on...

Answered

– Jezhotwells (talk) 17:26, 3 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

i'm a 35 year programming veteran. punch cards, APL, Fortran, Cobol, dotnet, Java, i could go on...

i've been a big contributer to wikipedia for 4 years.

lately, all my edits are "reverted" for some reason. i'm extremely bugged by this.

i'm most likely giving up on wikipedia. i believed in it strongly -- but what is going on with this website???

Tim Predmore <e-mail redacted> —Preceding unsigned comment added by Redraider57 (talk • contribs) 22:01, 23 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I just took a quick look at the edit history of Piseco, New York. IMHO the pre-stub version read more like a travel journal or holiday brochure entry. Please consider adding back some of the content in a more encyclopedic form rather than reverting it back wholesale. – ukexpat (talk) 22:10, 23 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

David Lane- Attorney

Resolved

– vandalism reverted Jezhotwells (talk) 17:27, 3 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

His brief entry has been edited to include the halfhearted slur "But in FACT Media Darling Lawyers are "CHEAAP" if not disgusting."

I thoroughly believe that Lane is a repugnant human being. However, this is not an appropriate entry for Wikipedia. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.161.157.141 (talk) 02:21, 24 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

It's been removed. Thanks for letting us know. Someguy1221 (talk) 02:23, 24 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Lactoferrin - external links

Resolved

– spam ELs removed and explanation given Jezhotwells (talk) 17:28, 3 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Hi there,

I have placed a link to my research infromation site about Lactoferrin in the "External Links" section of wikipedia's "Lctoferrin" page. I believe the information is a valid resource on this glycoprotein.

However, somebody or something continues to remove this link. At the moment there is a link to a page called "lactoferrinresearch.org", and that page contains no valid information on the subject of lactoferrin?

How can I prevent my link placed, from being continually removed in place of unvalid "content-less" links?

Many thanks

Seph88 (talk) 09:40, 24 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry for the confusion. In the lactoferrin article, I removed the link to "lactoferrin-supplements.com" while leaving in place the link to "lactoferrinresearch.org". Per WP:LINKSPAM, neither link is appropriate therefore I now have removed both links. The "lactoferrin-supplements.com" website contains unsourced material claiming the health benefits of lactoferrin and contains very little information that would be useful to a wide audience. The primary purpose of this web site is to promote the sales of lactoferrin from one particular distributor in the UK . This type of external link from a Wikipedia article is clearly not appropriate. Boghog (talk) 10:35, 24 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Amelia Earhart radio signals section

Answered

– discussion continues at talk page Jezhotwells (talk) 17:30, 3 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Amelia_Earhart#Section_on_Radio_Signals_After_Loss_is_outdated.2C_inaccurate.2C_and_poorly_ordered This article is semi-locked. I made extensive corrections on the talk page, the most important of which are factual in nature, including corrections to broken links and other non-subjective issues in the references. I am not sure who is controlling the lock, but a user tending the page seems to be intent on keeping it unchanged despite a request from editors that it be revised to be considered as a featured article. Dan Knauss (talk) 22:49, 24 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Well you have made arequest at the talk page for addition so you just have to await a response. Jezhotwells (talk)

Jayne Pierson

Answered

– article has been cleaned up, discussion continues at talk page

Dear Sir/madam,

My user name is saber.etc and I recently created a wikipedia profile for Jayne Pierson (fashion designer). In doing so I have stuck to the guidelines of "biographies of living people". I have established, internal links , citations, references and external links. The citations are from reputed news websites such as BBC. Also the writing is in a neutral point of view with a component for criticism.

Therefore, I request that the box appearing on top of the article to be removed. The quality standards and citations concerns are dated September 2009 and if you look at the versions recently, you will be able to observe that since September I have met all the requirements for this article in terms of internal links, external links, references and in line citations.

Also If I have left anything out, please let me know as soon as possible so I will be able to fix what ever is wrong and get back to you.

I would greatly appreciate your assistance in this matter.

Regards,

Navam Niles —Preceding unsigned comment added by 124.43.232.41 (talk) 06:36, 25 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I haven't looked at this article ( fwiw, it would be easier if you copied link from browser to this page so we canjust click) but often people in this area mistake puffery for encyclopedic content ( don't worry, this is not an occupation slur, the scientific/financial modellers at various real companies have gotten confused about puffery too LOL). Also, there can be an issue with notability- you need to find sources independent of the topic that have mentioned the topic in at least enough depth to create a decent article without much reference to dependent/primary sources. Nerdseeksblonde (talk) 14:01, 25 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

It looks like User:Fluffybunny0101 has removed it already. If you feel that you have addressed such issues, it is fine to remove such tags, preferably leaving a note on the talk page to explain. On another note the image File:Jayne Pierson.jpg does not appear to be correctly licensed as it states that Photograph cannot be re-used without the permission of Jayne Pierson., yet is licensed under Creative Commons Attribution ShareAlike 3.0 which is essentially contradictory. Did you, User:Saber.etc actually taker the picture. If you did not then you are not the copyright holder. It would appear the Ross Pierson is the copyright holder. Jezhotwells (talk) 14:05, 25 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I added notability tag after looking at refs, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jayne_Pierson , as they all seem to be confined to interviews with a local pub, walesonline, or directory or ad listings. The tone is more that of an ad with lots of peacock terms but many seem to be sourced, can't tell if peacock came from wikipedian or sources. Nerdseeksblonde (talk) 14:08, 25 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Wales Online (The Western Mail), the BBC, fforwm.ac.uk and London Fashion Week are all RS, so that tag is unjustified as has been removed. There are a number of issues with the artcle, I have left a note on the talk page. Jezhotwells (talk) 18:43, 25 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I guess it first depends on what "national/regional" or "local" mean in this context compared to the coverage of the Wales publication. I also didn't look in detail but often these "interviews" are promotional or otherwise non-news items but I'll have to give benefit of doubt on this until I've looked. The other ones looked like directory listings or ads and coverage of her as a student( "hometown girl goes to school"). I've taken this to the talk page as I'm not sure there are larger issues involved but just topic specific. I guess I'd just have to ask exactly what she is notable for maybe but it may be clear in article once puffery is gone. Nerdseeksblonde (talk) 23:31, 25 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Local official languages in Russia

In all the articles for the federal subjects of Russian there is a footnote stating that: According to Article 68.2 of the Constitution of Russia, only republics have the right to establish official languages other than Russian.

But this is wrong. In the Constitution it said that: The Republics shall have the right to establish their own state languages. I.e. it's stated that the republics are guaranteed to have this right, but it is not stated that other regions are not allowed to establish their own official languages. Hellerick (talk) 15:03, 25 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I was wondering about that as well a while back. I guess as long as you can dig up a source for each of those local languages (for example, some sort of official declaration), I would list them again. Let's make a test-case @ Jewish Autonomous Oblast (see there)Choyoołʼįįhí:Seb az86556 15:28, 25 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

The Autonomous Oblast Charter states that В области создаются условия для сохранения, изучения и развития языков еврейского народа и других народов, проживающих на территории области (In the oblast shaw be created conditions for preservation, research, and development of the languages of the Jewish people and other peoples living on the territory of the oblast). Well, I guess it does not make Yiddish and Hebrew its official languages, but it is not the matter. The matter is that Wikipedia should not claim that non-republics are not allowed to have their own official languages unless it's verified by a reliable source. I think it would be better to remove the footnotes altogether. Hellerick (talk) 16:14, 25 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

OK, this is probably best dealt with at the relevant talk pages. Jezhotwells (talk) 13:03, 1 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

spent some time trying to contribute-- won't happen again

Answered

– Jezhotwells (talk) 17:32, 3 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I tried to add this to the Monty Hall problem article under Aids to Understanding. It was reverted 3 times. I will not contribute again thanks.

A Simple Explanation for Math Simpletons (like me)

After the Nobel laureate has made his guess as to which door the car is behind, and Monty has revealed a goat behind one of the two doors he didn't select, the Nobel laureate is then asked if he believes that there is an equal probability that the car is behind either of the unopened doors. They affirm their belief that the odds are 50/50 that the car is behind either unopened door.

They are then asked to affirm that if this is the case, the door they would originally select should win the car half the time in a series of such games. Even a Nobel laureate will be forced to admit that given his assumption of a 50% chance of winning with his original choice, he should win about 50% of the time given a sufficient number of games. It is then pointed out to them that, in such a series of games in which he never switches his choice, the game is now identical to a straight guess of which of the three doors hides the car—since he never switches his choice. One choice of three equals a 33% chance not a 50% chance. Quite simply the laureate is confusing the number of doors with the probability of car that each door represents.

(Stoner Bob -kitchen table, 2009).

76.212.9.250 (talk) 20:07, 25 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Well this is a featured article, you should discuss adding something like this on the talk page first. Jezhotwells (talk) 20:27, 25 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I admit, I reverted this. I assume that anything attributed to "Stoner Bob - kitchen table" is meant as blatant vandalism. --NellieBly (talk) 20:40, 25 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Bias editing

On the below page there is a section for Scholarly Oganizations

Internet Studies

The editor [Halavais] removed 1 links in this secion. (UNDO) of my placement

I am Wreid and my interest is in TCFIR and unbiased editing. The link inquestion is:

The Center for Internet Research (TCFIR)

I am not suggesting the removal of his links, but the inclusion of the one listed here. All of these organization have a role in internet studies. (some more notable than others) Notability is an opinion easily influence by bias.

Of the links left in, one is an organization in which he plays a major role (AOIR VP) and the other I believe he is a member (ACM). Halavais and I have a long standing dispute and I have requested arbitration regarding his Bio page Alexander Halavais

TCFIR and me personally are held in low regard by Halavais and that is the subject long standing dispute. I ask that someone look at TCFIR Blog and TCFIR Websitespecificly the membership and directors and make a determination for inclusion. IMHO, if the exluded organization remain so, then the entire section (Scholarly orgainzations) should be deleted.

My motive for this request is simple; I am trying to avoid further editing wars, if possible.

Wreid (talk) 21:16, 25 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I have psoted a 3rd opinion at the article talk page. Jezhotwells (talk) 13:01, 1 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Need to see if this article is fine to publish onto the mainspace

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Zelysion/Tony_Wang

Thanks! I would really appreciate someone's expert judgment on this case. I want to make sure I don't get in trouble for publishing this article. I think it should meet all the wiki requirements. Zelysion (talk) 05:25, 26 October 2009 (UTC)zelysion[reply]

The only potential concern I see is the pictures. Where did they come from? You uploaded both of them to commons claiming them as your own work. While that is potentially believable for the first photo, it can't be for the second, unless you are in fact Tony Wang or one of his employees. Images that you don't actually own, and that have not been released to the public domain or on a free license, cannot be uploaded to commons, and their use on Wikipedia is limited according to the non-free content policy. Someguy1221 (Talk) 05:36, 26 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the response. I did make a mistake there. My bad. I removed that second image. And yes, I do own the first image. With this change made, should it be fine? I got in trouble once for not having enough links, so I did my best to create a good reference list based on what I could find. Zelysion (talk) 05:48, 26 October 2009 (UTC)zelysion[reply]

The references seem quite problematic to me, actually. Some of them are largely insignificant as far as Wikipedia is concerned, and others fall into what I would call "false referencing". This is not an accusation of bad faith, but more of poor form. A falsly referenced statement goes along the lines of: John was highly acclaimed for his work on Blah [1]. Where [1] is a citation to Johns work on Blah. You see, while this is OK for mentioning that he did the work, it's not a reference for the actual statement, which is that he received acclaim. I'll run down the references to identify the problems.

1. This is supposed to reference the interview, but instead is about the interviewer (a false reference)
2. This is just Tony making a post in a comments section; it doesn't reference anything
3. Same as above
4. This is sort of a false reference. It is supposed to support that this is his best known work, but it doesn't support that it is known at all, merely that it exists
5. This is the best reference so far, but the coverage is very minimal
6. This reference would classify as trivial coverage. Tony is mentioned, but only in passing as a member of a list. There is no actual discussion of him
7. Same as the first reference
8. This is the same as the second reference
9. This is the same as the third reference
10. Tony writes articles here. A demonstration the suitibility of an article requires articles about Tony, not articles by Tony. The link also doesn't clearly support the statement it's attached to
11. See the first part of my objection to the previous source
12. Google searches don't qualify as sources. Explicit source locations must be given, as Google searches are dynamic (they may vary from day to day)
13. Same problem as two references above
14. Same problem as two references above
15. This doesn't reference the statement given; sort of like the first reference, it's about one person in the interview, but not the actual interview
16. This would qualify as a trivial entry in a list
17. As with a few of the above, this is a collection of articles by Tony. While it references the statement given, it doesn't demonstrate the suitibility of the article

I know this may seem like a lot to take in, but there are a couple of simple ways to go about fixing all of this. The first is to recognize that the purpose of a citation is to provide an explicit reference to the statement it's attached to. A citation says, "If you click on me, you'll see that the sentence to the left of me is supported by a reliable source." The second, and this is extremely important, is that only sources written about Tony, by people other than Tony, demonstrate that he is notable. If his notability is not demonstrated, the article may be deleted. The best way to write an article, and a way that ensures this will not be a problem, is to write the article based on reliable sources. What you would do is first round up as many articles written about Tony (and not by him, and not hosted on his website or any blog) as you can find, and write the article only with content you can find in those articles. I hope this helps. Someguy1221 (talk) 06:40, 26 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for this advice. I will do my best to do some more due diligence on this matter. I'll try to get more compliant citations as soon as I can. As an issue of standards, I have been looking at other pages for people and I cannot understand why some of these pages would pass by the standards you and some other editors have applied. For example: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/XiXi_Yang doesn't seem to pass the same test this article is put under. At any rate, for now I cannot edit the article until later in the week. Thanks! Zelysion (talk) 07:07, 26 October 2009 (UTC)zelysion[reply]

You can see the standard response to this at WP:OTHERSTUFF. I might take a look at that article later. Someguy1221 (talk) 07:15, 26 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

This isn't a bureacracy and it isn't myspace, the intent is to document what others have found notable. I've sometimes wanted to include external search links for "recent updates" but they are too vague for any inline citations as they can't establish anything except the most nebulous claims (" joe has billions of hits on goog") even by my thinking :) There is always a subjective and editorial component to "Reliable" but the attempt is to make it reliable for whatever you are trying to state- and, AFAIK, Fox news is considered generally reliable here (LOL). Nerdseeksblonde (talk) 12:25, 26 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

the artist tommy pavletic

Answered

– Jezhotwells (talk) 10:42, 29 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

about three years ago some by me was told i was a world famous artist by someone else around the eprson went to look me up on your web sight and i was not there I would like some one to contact me to explain why <email redacted> thank you for a quick reply —Preceding unsigned comment added by 174.140.97.30 (talk) 05:51, 26 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

There is no article on you because you are not notable. You don't get an article simply because you exist, or even because you and one of your friends thinks you're world famous, which is doubtful given that your name produces only 25 unique google hits. Someguy1221 (talk) 06:12, 26 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Also, we don't reply to requests for help via email. Someguy1221 (talk) 06:13, 26 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

working on wikipedia tools/scripts, where do I go to look for larger interest here?

Resolved

– posted at WT:Tools Jezhotwells (talk) 17:36, 3 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I've started playing with tools such as this,

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Nerdseeksblonde/scriptTest

which creates wikipedia formatted citations from an XML file down loaded from pubmed ( this is on the topic "pyruvate cycling"). While such a list would not be used in raw form for an article, it could save a lot of time by generating good citations ( once it handles all the cases properly, note the leading "-" in one date LOL) and it is easier to delete unused citations rather than add them manually. Are others doing stuff like this from other DB's? Anyone intersted in stuff lke this Thanks. Nerdseeksblonde (talk) 12:28, 26 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Looks interesting, I suggest you go to WT:Tools. Jezhotwells (talk) 15:38, 26 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

A R Rahman's relation with P. Jayachandran

Answered

– requestor has not returned. Jezhotwells (talk) 17:38, 3 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

This is regarding the first song composed by A R Rahman. Kindly read through the link

http://www.rahmanism.com/2007/11/ar-rahman-composed-malayalam-song-at.html

This information was confirmed in front of atleast 10K people, by Mr. K.J Yesudas in presence of A. R Rahman himself. I think the citiation and news to good enough to add this info to Wikipedia. This is already a question in veriouis quiz programs in India —Preceding unsigned comment added by 122.172.150.195 (talk) 17:15, 26 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

And your request of the volunteers here is what? If you think material should be added to an article then please discuss it at the artcile talk page. Be very careful about adding material that cannot be properly cited. Please read WP:Verifiability and WP:Reliable sources. Thanks. Jezhotwells (talk) 17:29, 26 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Looking at the link you provided - that does not appear to meet Wikipedia's criteria as a reliable source. Jezhotwells (talk) 17:36, 26 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

"confirmed in front of" suggests a verbal citation. You need to get a reliable source to put it in writing, as famous person once more-or-less said, "a verbal citation isn't work the paper its written on". Nerdseeksblonde (talk) 18:02, 26 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Not meaning to indulge in a war, and not seemingly having transgressed stated rules

Resolved

– discussion contuinues at talk page Jezhotwells (talk) 17:38, 3 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I have the following problem.

I modified the entry to reflect the current accepted scientific knowledge in the area and pointed out how the study was popularly misrepresented. I attempted to keep all my writing apolitical (and in tobacco related issues that can be a challenge). I did not have to prove anything because the supplied references were all the proof required.

I made a change which was reverted. I negotiated directly with that editor and they withdrew saying they would let the community decide. The next editor was not as accomodating and possibly because I am new to this, I do not know the best way to communicate my concerns. At any rate, they overruled and have now complained about me.

The question is this: where do I go from here? All I did was remove supposition and get it down to the scientific evidence that was presented in the very citations. Or should I give up, and resign myself to being politically overwhelmed. Thank you. Pbergen1 (talk) 17:37, 26 October 2009 (UTC)pbergen1[reply]

You don't appear to have tried to discuss the issue on the article's talk page, which the edits summaries of other users removing your edit have been advising you to do. You (or your opponents) cannot win a disagreement by reverting until your opponent is exhausted - that will only get you blocked for edit warring. The way to resolve something like this is to take it to the talk page. Describe the changes you want to make and why you believe they are correct. Provide evidence from the sources that you believe supports your change. Then, when the other side does the same, you can hash out just what should and should not go into the article.

If you are unable to reach an agreement with the other party on the talk page, then you can take the issue through the dispute resolution process, which might involve a third opinion or mediation to resolve the dispute. But really the way to go here is to start with making an effort to discuss, on the article talk page, the changes you want to make. keɪɑtɪk flʌfi (talk) 17:47, 26 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

(edit conflict):You have been specifically asked in edit notes to discuss your edits on the article talk page, but you have not done so. What do you expect? Use the article talk page, lay out your concerns and then negotiate with other editors in the open, rather than jumping in and changing something because you think it is wrong. Remember that WP:Verifiability and WP:Reliable sources are a cornerstone of Wikipedia policies. Jezhotwells (talk) 17:49, 26 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the suggestions, I will do that. I thought I had left sufficient notes since the issue was so simple (ie. facts from the articles already cited) but will try to elucidate. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 142.244.181.31 (talk) 15:34, 27 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Packers Plus Energy Services references

Answered

– Jezhotwells (talk) 17:39, 3 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I added some more credible references to the Packers Plus Energy Services article so I was just wondering if I needed more or is everything okay? Egjackson (talk) 22:14, 26 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I would say that main concern would be notability, it is likely that this article would not survive an WP:AfD. Jezhotwells (talk) 15:22, 27 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Bound wrong

Answered

– question was wrongly bound, questioner redurected. Jezhotwells (talk) 10:36, 29 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

This may be an odd question but I have a Louis L'Amour book, "The Daybreakers", hard back leatherette collection and the pages of the book were bound in the leaterette book cover upside down. Does this effect the value of this book ? If you could let me know or help me find someone who could I would greatly appreciate your time! Thanks so much for your attention to this question!

Stacey Kinney <e-mail redacted out> —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.74.242.76 (talk) 21:31, 26 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

This page is for questions about using Wikipedia. Please consider asking this question at the Miscellaneous reference desk. They specialize in knowledge questions and will try to answer any question in the universe (except how to use Wikipedia, since that is what this Help Desk is for). Just follow the link and ask away. You could always try searching Wikipedia for an article related to the topic you want to know more about. I hope this helps. Someguy1221 (talk) 21:44, 26 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Our Lady of Zeitoun: Edit war

Answered

– discussion now back at talk page, consensus against the additions of Danmav Jezhotwells (talk) 17:43, 3 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I wrote the Criticisms section of Our Lady of Zeitoun some time back. A new user, Sheodred, came along a few days ago and removed it completely. After I restored it (as obvious vandalism) he then deleted several key paragraphs. I refuted his objections to these paragraphs (it is all in the discussion page of the article) and he now refuses any further discussion and insists that these paragraphs are to stay deleted. This is a problem that needs resolution by a third party as we cannot reach agreement. Danmav (talk) 01:10, 27 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

In that case I suggest you try WP:Third opinion. Jezhotwells (talk) 11:27, 27 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you, I will do that. Danmav (talk) 00:28, 28 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

What I did does not constitute as vandalsim,if so I would have been notified.The paragrpahs I deleted were POV and violated wikipedia's policy on neutrality within articles.I am not refusing further discussion,can you point out Danmav where I wrote that?I would appreciate that,as you are trying to label me as a vandal and disruptive editor in the wikipedian community.I insisted on these paragraphs that were edited to remain absent until an administrator decides what is best,until then it does violate neutrality.I am being civil and patient.I have engaged with you in discussion on this matter.I am hardly a vandal.My regards sir.By the way,I am not new to wikipedia,I only opened an account recently yes,but I have used and contributed to Wikipedia for a long time.Sheodred (talk) 14:41, 28 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Requesting Assistance Adding Pertinent Information to my Jennifer Nicole Lee Wikipedia Entry

Jennifer Nicole Lee (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) I am seeking help adding information and facts to my Jennifer Nicole Lee entry. I am new to this site, and still learning. Therefore, I am seeking assistance in compiling historical notes to this article on Jennifer Nicole Lee. First, the correct description of her as a top fitness model due to her achievements, awards, and being on the cover of over 30 different magazines in under 5 years, a key media personality, an author, an electronic lifestyle program developer, a CEO of her two companies, and an award winning fitness and figure competitor holding many titles and awards. Specifically, I am seeking help in adding information on these details: "The Mind, Body, & Soul Diet: Your Complete Transformational Guide to Health, Healing and Happiness", the fact that she is a mother of two boys named Jaden and Dylan, the fact that she is married to Edward Lee, son of Byron Lee and the Dragonaires, is the official "pitchman" and spokesmodel of the Ab Circle Pro featured in infomercials, and also has been awarded two consequetive years in a row from 2008-2009 the World Bodybuilding and Fitness Federation the Miss Bikini Diva World Champion title. I need to also mention that she is a CEO and business owner of her two companies. Her first company was created in January of 2005 entitled JNL, Inc. Her second company was created on July 4th 2009 entitled JNL Worldwide, Inc., which was modeled after Kathy Irelands company called Kathy Ireland Worldwide. Thank you

MrhomasedisomMrthomasedisom (talk) 02:05, 27 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Well, I'm personally all for "obscure but notable" and in my thinking about this catagory, it would require some effort to find good sources. So, just taking your request in general terms, requests for thoughts on sources are probably of general applicability to many articles. However, it sounds like you want specialty databases or industry journals and if you are familiar with topic and industry you may already know better than many here. In any case, emails to interested parties may help find citations to independent reliable sources that would be suitable here. The observations, however, and the sources you have, strike me as being largely gossip or fad type of material or maybe single event/record setting situation. That is, this person is known largely for a fast weight loss but has used that "accomplishment" to gain publicity for weight loss approaches. If you have reliable sources you can establish notability but it may be difficult to write an encyclopedic article. Nerdseeksblonde (talk) 10:56, 27 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Mrthomasedisom - A number of very experienced editors have given you advice here.(edit)

The article talk page is a good place to get help or gain support for your edits. I continue to encourage you to make use of it.

It is important to understand that WP is an encyclopedia that contains information summarized from published, generally wp:reliable sources. Until information is published in these sources, it is not generally appropriate for WP.- Sinneed 16:14, 28 October 2009 (UTC) - edit - Sinneed 16:30, 28 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Request for the book "The Mind, Body & Soul Diet: Your Complete Transformational Guide to Health, Healing and Happiness" authored by Jennifer Nicole Lee

I am seeking help in crafting the article on the book authored by Jennifer Nicole Lee entitled "The Mind, Body & Soul Diet: Your Complete Transformatinoal Guide to Health, Healing and Happiness". Facts about this book that need to be noted are the following: Jack Canfield, co-creator of the book series "Chicken Soup for the Soul" and featured author in The Secret states a quote on the back cover. If you can find his exact words, this would be helpful. Also, that the foreward was written by Dr. Joe Vitale, also a featured author in The Secret. If anyone can find factual backup to where the book is being distributed, this would be helpful as well. Also, factual backup that fitness model Jennifer Nicole Lee, did indeed author this book. Thank you, Mrthomasedisom Mrthomasedisom (talk) 02:12, 27 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I would imagine you might be able to find that sort of information on the internet. Look for WP:Reliable sources. You could also ask at the WP:Reference Desk. If you don't have any source material to hand why on earth do you think it would be useful to have an article on this book?Jezhotwells (talk) 11:22, 27 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Since the book is not out, it is unlikely to have the wp:notability needed to make an article. It is listed in her article.- Sinneed 18:19, 28 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Ab Circle Pro

Hello, I'm seeking help in creating the article on the Ab Circle Pro. In particular, I need to build an article showcasing that Jennifer Nicole Lee is the official "pitch woman" and spokesmodel of this ab and cardio machine. I need to support the fact that TimeLife buys the media time for the infomercial. The fact that it is being globally distributed in over 90 different countries, with Jennifer Nicole Lee's voice being dubbed into over 20 different languages. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Mrthomasedisom (talk • contribs) 02:16, 27 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I suspect that this is not particularly notable so I would suggest that you don't bother as it might well be deleted quite quickly. Try reading up on WP:Notability and the other guidelines that have been linked on your talk page. Also bear in mind the warnings that you have already received. Jezhotwells (talk) 11:25, 27 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Starting to think "soapbox?" I've learned a lot about these topics already this morning just from reading these requests. I've been accused of that on Creation Science for less. LOL. Nerdseeksblonde (talk) 11:34, 27 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

"...showcasing that Jennifer Nicole Lee is the official 'pitch woman'." doesn't sound very encyclopedic to me and also has a hint of spam. – ukexpat (talk) 15:58, 27 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Mrthomasedisom seems to be a single-purpose account, creating spammy articles and links about Lee and associated subjects. --Orange Mike | Talk 16:22, 27 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

AFAIK, you can sell snake oil from a soapbox, not just espouse political stances. Nerdseeksblonde (talk) 16:42, 27 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Carabins

Under WP:COMMONNAME, this page should be called the Montreal Carabins. This is because University athletic teams include the short University name and the team's nickname. However, I tried to move the page and there is a redirect to it already called Montreal Carabins. I realize this is all academic really, but how do I switch the two so Carabins is the redirect and Montreal Carabins is the proper name? Shootmaster 44 (talk) 02:17, 27 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Go to Wikipedia:Requested moves and follow the instructions to make a move request.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 10:59, 27 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Problem with the article Brazil

I have worked for a couple of years on the articles about the history of Brazil and I decided to improve the text about it on the article Brazil. The old text was full os incorrect informations or with sources that came from websites. I replaced it with a much improved text with sources by famous Brazilians historians. I am writing the text for each session one by one. The problem is that a user called Opinoso is accusing me of being monarchist (what?!) and is making an edit war for no reason at all. I really need help on this one. Thank you very much. - --Lecen (talk) 15:36, 27 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

This user (Lecen) removed the sourced work of other users, and replaced them with biased informations. I think he does not know that he is free to add new (sourced and neutral) informations, but is prevented to erase the work of other users. In fact, he is against two rules of Wikipedia: he erase the sourced work of other users and, even worse, he replaced the old good work with his personal adimiration in relation to Monarchy, and his personal negative view of Republic. Neither neutral point of view, neither good faith principles are being respected by this user. I tried to open a discuss with this user on the talk page of article Brazil, but he was really rude and avoided a civil discussion. He cannot erase the work of other users. I reverted to the original article, and he decided to open an edit-warring, reverting to his biased posts about History of Brazil. Opinoso (talk) 15:41, 27 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Arthur C. Clarke

Hello

I was wondering if you could add on to the page about Arthur C. Clarke. Recently, he completed three books that are not on the page:

-"Time's Eye" writen with Stephen Baxter -"Sunstorm" writen with Stephen Baxter -"Firstborm" writen with Stephen Baxter

Also, if you could add a paragraph concerning these 3 book as there were the last books he wrote before his death in 2008.

Thank You, Regards, Kathy —Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.245.240.12 (talk • contribs) 14:57, 27 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, this is Wikipedia - the encyclopaedia that anyone can edit - so why don't you? But please take a look round, but please start with Wikipedia:How to edit a page. The best thing would be to post your list of books on the talk page of the article, rather than just diving in. Jezhotwells (talk) 19:02, 27 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Campaign of abuse/personal attacks

I have an IP user 193.128.223.67 who is launching a campaign of abuse and personal attacks against me. On the Daily Mail article he keeps reappearing on several occasions and posting vandalism. When myself and other editors have removed it, he gets very abusive and starts posting personal attacks and threats on my talk page and Talk:Daily Mail. He is just bullying me and other users just because he cannot accept his edits are vandalism. He responds with torrents of abuse saying he has got campaign groups planning to report me to Wikipedia. He keeps claiming I am 'censoring' the Daily Mail page when all I am doing is removing POV/vandalism they have posted. He has also posted libellous comments accusing me of being a Daily Mail employee which I am not. I would be very grateful if you could resolve this situation. I have applied for Administrator intervention and Page Protection but they referred me here. Thank you Christian1985 (talk) 19:34, 27 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Actually, looking at the article's history, I'm inclined to think the IP has a point, however crudely expressed. You do seem to have a bit of an ownership attitude towards the Mail. --Orange Mike | Talk 19:49, 27 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I disagree they have been posting personal attacks at me and I am not taking ownership of the article. I am simply following Wikipedia policies by removing content that is unsuitable such POV or sourced from improper sources. Christian1985 (talk) 19:52, 27 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Can I give my 2 cents. I am the person he is referring too. I think we may get some resolution with open discussion with a 3rd party.

My "vandalism" is adding in a "controversial articles" section, where I detailed some notorious headlines. Headlines that brought charges against them by the press complaints commission. All sourced and verified. Very similar to the "controversy" sections that appear on 99% of wikipedia media articles.

My campaign of abuse/threats, it seems is complaining about this user continually deleting edits.

I don't think one user should be able to completely control a page, by trying to claim that making verified edits is "vandalism". What's more threatening to report, and reportin anyone who dares to make consistent changes. Especially when much of this reporting it seems, refers to "vandals" "bullies" and "torrents of abuse". Which is a tad inaccurate, if you actually read the discussion page.

Anyway, I'd like to hear what the actual policy is on these sorts of cases, and the edits that have been deleted. If I am the party in the wrong, I'll happily accept it.

I just don't think it's right that articles can be controlled, in a way that can be deemed to political, and that anyone who makes these changes can be reported as "vandals"?

If I make a verified, accurate edit, that 99% of the nation seem to want, why should one person be able to dictate their will on a page so much, because they don't like the fact that it casts aspersions on the product they seem to like? You know. It's an encyclopedia, not some PR excercise!

And what's more, I realise that a lot of these reports are not acted upon, but shouldn't people be able to make verified changes and edits, without the fear of being labelled a "vandal" and finding themselves reported?

thanks

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~~ —Preceding unsigned comment added by Cjmooney9 (talk • contribs) 20:45, 27 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

This is the wrong place to work this out. Sincerely, GeorgeLouis (talk) 21:31, 27 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

people help

Request unclear

– Jezhotwells (talk) 23:49, 27 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

ask —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.120.228.39 (talk) 21:28, 27 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

So what is the problem - or are you just messing around? Jezhotwells (talk) 23:49, 27 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Is James Karl McDougall really as important to this school as it appears.

Answered

– Jezhotwells (talk) 10:35, 29 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marian_College_(Ararat)

This article seems to have a lot of references to James Karl McDougall. Is he really as important to this school as it appears? :) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 203.134.169.157 (talk) 04:55, 28 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

no. It was accumulated vandalism. Rd232 ^talk 14:26, 28 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Record lock during edit.

Answered

– Jezhotwells (talk) 10:35, 29 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Newbie Q: Is an article locked while you edit it, thereby ensuring that, on saving, you don't overwrite someone else's save made just before yours? Jimlue (talk) 05:59, 28 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

No, actually. Whoever makes the first save gets his edits in. Anyone else who had an edit window open and then tries to save will see an "edit conflict" notice. Two edit windows will be displayed, one showing the most recently saved revision, and another showing the revision you tried to save. Inbetween, you will see a side by side highlighting of the differences. Read more at Help:Edit conflict. Someguy1221 (talk) 06:02, 28 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks very much for reply, Someguy1221. (As a newbie I just disc'd I shoulda posted this in the Edit Help area, but whatever.) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Jimlue (talk • contribs) 03:19, 29 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Help with International reaction to the 2009 Honduran military coup

Hello, I would like editor assistance for this article. Another editor and I have a strong disagreement about the relevance of an edit that I placed in this article about 2 weeks ago.

The edit runs roughly as follows (latest rr on diff):

The edit

This edit had previously been placed on another page 2009 Honduran constitutional crisis, reverted several times (I admit that as a newbie I did not understand WP:3RR at the time), and then the suggestion was made by one of the reverting editors to place it on its current page International reaction to the 2009 Honduran military coup. I followed this suggestion. This seemed to satisfy everyone except for the editor with whom I have the disagreement, RicoCorinth.

When he discovered the edit in its new home, he tried to revert it but was reverted by another user:

1 revert by RicoCorinth, then a revert of the revert same day by Ed Wood's Wig.

RicoCorinth then came back a week and a half later, and tried to revert again 2, and I reverted his revert the same day, all the time discussing the issue. He does not think that Republican attempts to disrupt Obama's Honduras foreign policy are a notable part of the US reaction to the coup.

That same day, one of the editors who had originally reverted the content in old article during my foolish newbie edit war reviewed and made a minor edit to the edit, and did not revert it or drastically change it, a reflection on consensus on the content.

RicoCorinth then reverted again the next day 3 and Ed Wood's Wig reverted him again that same day, with more dicussion on my part.

He has since reverted 3 more times: 4, 5, and 6, and been reverted another 3 times.

As I said before, he does not think that Republican attempts to disrupt Obama's Honduras foreign policy are a notable part of the US reaction to the coup in International reaction to the 2009 Honduran military coup, and he is conflating the why of Republicans' actions versus the what effect have they had on the overall reaction.

RicoCorinth accuses me of WP:IINFO, WP:Notability issues, WP:Recentism, edit-warring (even though that was only a newbie mistake that I made my first time), being tendentious, etc. I have tried to supply sources to support the notability of the information that I have included, but he does not seem to want to accept the idea that the information might be relevant. I know that we have to assume good faith as Wikipedians, but it is difficult to do because many times he just repeats previous discussion comments or edit summaries without further elaboration when he summarily reverts.

I would like more fresh eyes and minds to look at this article and topic. Please, editors, look over the discussion page, the edits, and the content in general and let me know if I am in the wrong about this one. I don't claim to know everything about WP, or the guidelines, or the subject at hand. I am new, and I admit to making mistakes. But I do feel that the content is sourced, notable, and relevant. I am willing to follow the consensus on this content if it goes against my position. If the opposite is true, it is my hope that the other editor can accept that as well.

Any other improvements to the article and new MIPs would be welcome!

Moogwrench (talk) 07:51, 28 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Moogwrench is no newbie. -- Rico 17:18, 28 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

You can look at my contribs. First time I started regularly contributing was with this edit, on 10 October 2009. Before that, I had just dinked around and done like maybe 10 contribs in like 2.5 years. But I would actually like editors, and not pedantic edit warriors, to look over my work. Moogwrench (talk) 21:57, 28 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

If you have a disagreement about article content with another editor and having read WP:Consensus, been unable to achieve that, you could ask for a WP:Third opinion, or start a WP:Request for comment. Remmeber that to achieve consensus, you may have to make concessions. Jezhotwells (talk) 14:14, 29 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Cable Street Mural, London

Request unclear

– Jezhotwells (talk) 14:12, 28 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

The Cable Street mural is one of the largest and most spectacular murals in Europe. It is recognised internationally because of it's significance as a monument to 'The Battle of Cable Street' which took place in 1936 when an estimated 300,000 people blocked London's east End in order to prevent Oswald Mosely and his Fascist army of 'backshirts' from marching through Stepney - a predominantly Jewish part of the East End. The entire mounted corps of the police was mobilised to force a path for the blackshirts. The focal point of the 'Battle' was a barricade set up in Cable Street where, following violent clashes and running battles, the Fascists were stopped and Mosely called off the march. Subsequently the British Union of Fascists were prevented from wearing their uniforms.

The mural itself had a complicated history, largely because it was subject to repeated attacks and perhaps for this reason much information on the web is inaccurate. It was originally conceived and researched by Dave Binnington who raised money for the project and had the wall on which it was to be painted, on the side of Saint Georges Town Hall in Cable Street, prepared with a special render. However shortly after he had completed designs and commenced work Fascist graffiti was scrawled in huge letters across the whole surface. Dave Binnington, exhausted and demoralised resigned from the project. Paul Butler, who Dave had comissioned to paint a series of 'praedella' panels across the bottom edge of the mural, then took over the project and invited mural artists Ray Walker and Desmond Rochfort to work with him to complete the project. The wall had to be re-rendered and re-primed across about three quarters of its surface. Paul, Ray and Desmond took over a room in the basement of St Georges Town Hall as a studio and created a new design loosely based on Dave's but substantially different in structure and imagery. They divided the wall into four sections, Ray Walker designed and painted the left section, Paul Butler the central section and Desmond Rochfort the right section. The upper section was united by all three with the lower part. The buildings at the top of the mural are all that remains of Daves work.

The mural took a year to paint and the artists remember it as a hugely enjoyable and rewarding process - as well as back-breaking. The mural is about 65'x 50' (17x22m approx) and the process of painting involved repeatedly climbing up and down the scaffolding to check scale and structure of the design.

The mural has subsequently been attacked repeatedly by Fascist groups. Ray repaired and restored the mural in about 1985 and Paul Butler twice in 1991 and 1994. On this last occasion his car had white paint poured over it, the tyres slashed and his life threatened by an neofascist organisation calling itself C18 ( a code for Hitler's birthday).

Ray Walker died tragically prematurely at the age of 39, Desmond Rochfort moved to Canada to take up an academic post, Dave Binnington moved to the country and became a furniture maker and Paul butler continues to practice as an artist in London.

Paul butler can be contacted at <email address redacted> his blog-site is www.spaceofforgetting.typepad.com —Preceding unsigned comment added by 80.3.171.127 (talk) 11:58, 28 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

So the talk page of that article might be an appropiate place to post this. Please don't post email addresses on Wikipedia as this page is highly visible and the address will be spam comprimised, Jezhotwells (talk) 14:34, 28 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

List_of_Grand_Slam_Men%27s_Singles_champions

IN THE ARTICLE ABOVE THERE APPEARS A NAZI FLAG NEXT TO SOME GERMAN PLAYERS! DOESNT ANYONE EDIT THIS STUFF? I AM APPALLED!!!! —Preceding unsigned comment added by Topspin19682000 (talk • contribs) 13:45, 28 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Fixed. The flags were used for Nazi-era German players, so it may have been good faith. Rd232 ^talk 13:52, 28 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

The flags on that page are the official national flags of the nations the tennis players represent. That meant the German champions in 1934, 1936 and 1937 got the flag of Nazi Germany and not Federal Republic of Germany. See Flag of Germany#Nazi Germany. Wikipedia is not censored and I don't think we should show a wrong flag because the correct flag has bad associations. The flag was generated with the Nazi parameter to Template:Country data Germany. PrimeHunter (talk) 14:13, 28 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I've started a discussion at Wikipedia talk:Manual of Style (icons). If it's not widely known that the Nazi Party flag was for a time the "official" flag, showing the official flag without explanation is confusing and problematic. Rd232 ^talk 14:29, 28 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Why? Couldn't the same be said for pictures of naked girls? Nerdseeksblonde (talk) 15:00, 28 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I think RD232 has over over-acted. The official German flag from 1934 to 1945 was a swastika device so that is what should be there in the article. I see that RD232's chnage has been reverted. The Nazi flag serves as a good reminder to us now that it is possible for a gang of illiterate racist thugs to take over an entire nation, sadly. Jezhotwells (talk) 15:11, 28 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Without taking sides, I would point out that denial has never served a sustainable stablizing purpose any more than ignorance, hence the value of an encyclopedia. Nerdseeksblonde (talk) 15:33, 28 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Placing the Nazi emblem next to individuals simply because they were German would be problematic. I don't see anything to indicate this is the case here as it appears that was the correct flag for the time.- Sinneed 18:23, 28 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I still can't figure out what half the icons on many websites mean but if you must use a picture I guess it is reasonable to use something that indicates who sponsored the athlete. I assume that everyone driving a race car with a Coke logo is not a can of coke. While we are on the topic, the Nazi's also sponsored some good science etc and that is usually credited. Nerdseeksblonde (talk) 19:33, 28 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

incorrect and damaging information.

I found in an article on the History of Triple J the following paragraph.

A small but vocal group was formed at this time the "Free the Jays campaign" they bravely fought on with the support of Gayle Austin until the treasurer reportedly absconded with all the funds they had raised.[citation needed]

This is incorrect and libelous information. It implies that I was associated with and somehow leading a group of people where funds were mismanaged. I had no association with the Free Jays Campaign. I was one of the announcers who were purged from the station. The Free Jays Campaign were a group of listeners who were heroic in their efforts to save 'their' radio station. I admired them, and was appreciative of their efforts to save our jobs, other than that, I had no connection with them. It was totally a listener led response. Unfortunately their passion for Triple J as it originally was, was let down by their accountant who was a member of their group, who they trusted, and under mysterious circumstances made off with the money. Please correct this information, as placing my name just before the mention of the treasurer absconding with the funds is incorrect, and is damaging to my reputation.

Gayle Austin, you can contact me at my email address: <email redacted>

I love the work you all do, and appreciate the effort towards freedom of information, this information should be somehow verified though in order to give your efforts real impact. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.132.156.55 (talk) 18:26, 28 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I have removed the problematic sentence from the article, as it is against our biography of living persons policy to allow contentious information about a living person to stay in any article without being cited to a reliable source. Thank you for pointing out the issue.

I have also redacted your email from your post, as search engines index this page and having your email address showing would open you up to a lot of spam. keɪɑtɪk flʌfi (talk) 19:34, 28 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Continued deletion of my post and club email address

Resolved

– as per JohnInDC Jezhotwells (talk) 11:46, 29 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

This is in regard to the article and club website address that I continue to sumbit on the Page for Plymouth Prowler. It is under the topic of 10th Anniversary. There is a rival club who continues to delete my article about the 10th Anniversary Celebration that was done by our club on August 16, 2007 with Chrysler Corporation. I have also posted a url link to our club website, Prowleronline.com This club continues to delete the article and our club website link. I have complained about this before and for a while, it was not taken down. Apparently, they continue to do this. How can this be resolved? They deny that they are doing it. Thank you for your assistance

CJ Longstreth Prowleronline.com xxxx@comcast.net

I took a look at the page, and by my lights, *all* of those fansite links are inappropriately included. Accordingly I removed them all, and included in the edit summary a link to the appropriate WP page, namely WP:ELNO. JohnInDC (talk) 19:21, 28 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

This matter is resolved. JohnInDC (talk) 11:12, 29 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

2011 Pro Bowl: avoiding an edit war

2011 Pro Bowl (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) Hello! Recently, several users (or possibly just one) have been redirecting 2011 Pro Bowl to Pro Bowl per WP:CRYSTAL. I originally reverted the redirect, asking for a discussion, but this goal was not met and the page was redirected again. My reason for not redirecting is that the article complies with the guidelines if they are read through thoroughly. I began a thread on the talk page of the article. I do not want to start an edit war, but I need some help. Thank you! 98.111.75.8 (talk) 22:57, 28 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

You could ask for a WP:Third opinion. Jezhotwells (talk) 09:16, 29 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

GiveVaccines.org

Hello - I am a new editor to Wikipedia. I am having difficulty posting about a new non-profit organization, GiveVaccines.org. GiveVaccines.org is already noted on wikipedia through the Gavi Alliance or Gavi Fund. I would like help from an experienced editor to re-post my information and clean it up a little. Thank you very much!! —Preceding unsigned comment added by Asiefkes (talk • contribs) 00:20, 29 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

It would appear that GiveVaccines.org does not meet the WP:Notability guidelines so currently this would not be a good subject for an encyclopedia artcile on Wikipedia. This is not a judgement on the oragnisation but on its notability for inclusion in an encyclopedia. Jezhotwells (talk) 10:25, 29 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

As Asiefkes has removed a speddy deltion tag without any comment on the talk page, I have nominated this for deltion at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/GiveVaccines.org. Jezhotwells (talk) 10:31, 29 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

How to i post the content of one website called www.sgrabby.co.nr to wikipedia.... i'm unable to understand to post

Answered

– Jezhotwells (talk) 14:01, 29 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Iam sankar from India. intrested to post the content of "sgrabby - share knowledge" (www.sgrabby.co.nr) website. Hw do i do that? I'm unable to know wwhere to start and wher to post? can help me related to this? thanks, sankar. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Learnsomuch (talk • contribs) 12:54, 29 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Simple answer - Please do not do this. It will lead to the content being removed, and possibly, you being banned.

Please read the links in the welcome template on your talk page to get some idea of Wikipedia is about before even thinking of posting articles. (also posted on user talk page as he had posted this directly on my page. Jezhotwells (talk) 14:01, 29 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Having looked at the website cited, very definitely do not post details of this non-notable company on Wikipedia. This is not a directory. It is an encyclopedia. Jezhotwells (talk) 14:05, 29 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

new post for Okefenokee Oar

Those weren't references; they were e-mail addresses! --Orange Mike | Talk 18:36, 29 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Help with Genocide Portal Selected Biography Section

Hello, as a new user to Wikipedia, I want to be sure I am working within standards prior to making any changes to existing pages. I have reviewed the information here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Selected_biography and am looking for some specific help.

Currently, there is only one entry on the selected biography page of the genocide portal. I would like to add eight additional notable scholars in the field. It appears that the current format is just a cut and paste from Dr. Stanton's wikipedia page. It seems to me that this is not the format discussed in the templates outline. Is it appropriate for me to rework this entire section to match the template design? EG: provide a summary of information with a link to the main article.

Thank you in advance for your assistance.

Solgress (talk) 17:25, 29 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

On the face of it yes, but you should discuss this at Portal talk:Genocide first. That is where other editors on teh project can discuss any pros and cons. Jezhotwells (talk) 17:37, 29 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Removing sourced section

I have a question: in 20 October 2009 user:Lecen started to erase several sourced informations from article Brazil (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views). His justification to erase them was "Adding a much better and correct text with sources to Empire section"[1]. After a few days, the entire section about History of Brazil, which was already there for years, was erased by this user, and replaced by his own contributions. The new contributions are too long, biased, and controversial. The article Brazil, which was considered to be good and stable, is now under a conflict because of this controversal removal of an entire History section.

The question is: is it allowed to erase several sourced informations from an article (without justification) and replace them with new ones (which are biased)? Opinoso (talk) 17:30, 29 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I need the answer to this question, because I already tried to reverte the article to its original History section[2], which was erased, but I got reverted by User:Lecen (once again without any justification for this attitude). Thanks. Opinoso (talk) 17:37, 29 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

OK, I can see that there is an edit war going on. You may want to request help from Wikiproject Brazil members to judge who is right and wrong or you may wish to start a WP:Request for comment. If you cannot resolve the dispute with user:Lecen and achieve consensus those might be course of action tat you could take. Sometimes tehse sort of disputes take a long time to resolve unfortunately. You may want to try WP:Mediation as another option. Jezhotwells (talk) 17:45, 29 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I agree that all these measures may be taken. However, there is a fact: the entire History section was removed, and there was no reason for that. It means that the work of many other users was lost there. What I'm asking is if it is allowed to erase sourced contributions from other users and replace them with your own contributions. I need the answer to this question, so that I can reverte that article to its original form and not get reverted because of this. Opinoso (talk) 17:55, 29 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

You are asking me to amke a judgement on which material is better (or better sourced). I am not prepared to do that having no particluar knowledge of teh subject matter or sources. These kind of disputes have to be hammered out on the artcile talk pages. Jezhotwells (talk) 17:58, 29 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I will add, however, that in a situation like this, it is much more advisable to change one small section at a time, discussing any disagreements as they arise, rather than to commit the kind of sweeping replacement described here. --Orange Mike | Talk 18:32, 29 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

That's the point. The user Lecen did not discuss anything, no disagreements about the original text content was rised. He only said the original text was "incorrect" and then he reported he was going to change the text and nothing else. I was traveling at that time and I did not see he was erasing almost half of an entire article . I only realized it later. Please, leave your comments at the talk page of article Brazil too. He's not the owner of that article, he cannot erase informations without a long previous discussion involving different users. Opinoso (talk) 18:54, 29 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Jsuit Tea

Request unclear

– Jezhotwells (talk) 22:41, 29 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Jesuit tea appears as an alternative name for "pozote" and under "Jesuit Tea & Bark. The description of the qualities varies from article to article. I would like to know which is correct —Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.233.235.243 (talk) 20:37, 29 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

It would be helpful if you said which articles you are referring to. Using an encyclopaedia like Wikipedia means y7ou may need to evaluate which articles have the most reliable sources. One indicator of this may be the class of teh article, i.e. Good Article, featured, A, B, C, start or stub. Jezhotwells (talk) 22:41, 29 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Can't figure out why section edit links are missing

Resolved

– There is a problem with a template that was used at the bottom of the article. Removing the template cleared the error. - Sinneed 19:00, 30 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Fathima Rifqa Bary conversion and custody controversy (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) is missing the section edit links and we can't figure out why. JRSpriggs tried hiding {{Muslims and controversies}},[3] but it didn't help. —Chris Capoccia ^T⁄_C 06:17, 30 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Notice that "Christianity Topics" has an edit instead of a hide. Commenting out the footers makes the edit links come back. Looks like a template issue.- Sinneed 06:36, 30 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I can see the section edit links (currently using Internet Explorer); is this still an issue for anyone? GlassCobra 18:23, 30 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Removing the troublesome template cleared the error.- Sinneed 18:47, 30 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Copyright issues - Star Trek insignia

The article Starfleet ranks and insignia has a number of photographs of physical items representing the insignia used in the Star Trek films and television series. These have mostly been uploaded by Flans44 (talk · contribs), released into the public domain. As derivative works, however, the copyright to the underlying design still rests with CBS.

In August 2008, I addressed this with Flans44 (see User talk:Flans44#Possibly unfree Image:Starfleetflans44.jpg and subsequent sections of that talk page). File:Starfleetflans44.jpg was deleted as non-free, even though Flans44 apparently contacted a lawyer who supposedly said the photos were okay. EEMIV (talk · contribs) then raised User talk:Flans44#Fair use rationale for Image:Starfleetinsig.jpg, to which Flans44 responded by writing a fair-use rationale (after some prompting). (That image was later deleted, in February 2009, for being unused for 5 days.) Flans44, however, said he/she would not do the same for the other images he/she uploaded: "I don't have time to worry about all of the other photos. I'll worry about them on an 'as needed' basis."

I let it go at the time. Flans44 has not been a very active editor over the past year, so when I stumbled on File:Starfleetinsig real.jpg recently (September 28) and noticed it did not have a fair-use rationale, I nominated it for deletion. Flans44 did not respond to the notice on his/her talk page, and the image was deleted. As it was a bit of a test case, I then nominated the rest of the files in Category:Star Trek ranks and insignia for deletion. They, too were deleted, on October 28.

That was the point at which Flans44 returned to find files being deleted. Flans44 complained to me, posted in frustration on the article talk page, and posted in frustration underneath the deletion nomination. I attempted to explain, apologizing for the trouble and inviting Flans44 to ask for undeletion of the images so that he/she could write fair-use rationales for them.

Now, after perusing Starfleet ranks and insignia, I notice that several of Flans44's images are still in the article. They were not deleted because I only went for the ones in Category:Star Trek ranks and insignia, and these remaining images were not in that category.

I have little interest in inviting again Flans44's insults and invective by doing yet another mass-nomination of Flans44's images. Yet the images cannot be left to sit there claiming to be free when they are not so, and I'm not really 100% sure that fair-use rationales would be valid for all of those images.

What I'm looking for is some help on this issue. I don't want to be "the bad guy" here because I'm the only one bringing up these issues and trying to explain Wikipedia reasoning, especially when I'm not 100% sure I'm interpreting policy correctly in the first place. Can anyone help me address these issues?

Thanks.

-- Powers ^T 14:25, 30 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I would suggest that WT:Copyright violations is the correct venue for this. Jezhotwells (talk) 15:14, 30 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

ChaCha Mobile Search

Dear Editors:

ChaCha Mobile Search is a unique service because we employ thousands of independent contractors or “Guides” (over 50,000) across the nation to answer questions. Since we launched in 2006, we have made several changes to the service for both Guides and Consumers. Therefore, a handful of independent contractors have spent quite a bit of time editing and contributing to both the founder page (Scott Jones) and the ChaCha Page.

Other Guides have attempted to correct the content. In the process, we have outdated content, biased content and several tags and warnings on our page. We are looking for assistance to correct the situation and provide an accurate representation of our company and the founders.—Preceding unsigned comment added by 64.255.241.78 (talk) 15:18, 30 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

OK, so you are alleging that some of the people who may once have worked for you are subverting the pages by posting inaccurate information? I think one of the main concerns is the notability of Steve A Jones (notability in Wikipedia terms, that is). The best way to proceed would be that anyone who has a connection with Jones or the company do not edit anything due to conflict of interest. If you think there is something seriously wrong point it out on the article talk page. Jezhotwells (talk) 15:34, 30 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you. That seems like the best way to proceed. How do I find an unbiased, unconnected editor to update both the ChaCha page and the Scott A Jones page so that there isn't any conflict? Is there someone here that can start over and provide accurate information without the company or employee's involvement whatsoever? Thanks for your help. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.22.20.144 (talk) 02:42, 2 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

bio for barbara mcalister-opera singer

my biography that was placed by someone on wikipedia has incorrect info, that i speak fluent ojibway, cherokee, and some other native amer. language. i do not speak them, but do sing in these languages. please can this be corrected? sincerly barb —Preceding unsigned comment added by Kamama1 (talk • contribs) 19:41, 30 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, welcome to Wikipedia. You may wish to bring up your concerns at Talk:Barbara McAlister (opera singer). GlassCobra 19:52, 30 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Hey

I was wondering if somebody could merge List of wars 1900-1944 and List of wars 1945-1989 so it can be like List of wars 1800-1899. The wars in the 1990s (1990-1999) should also be added. B-Machine (talk) 14:58, 31 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Have you discussed this at the relevant talk pages? You should read WP:Merge. If there is interest on the relevant talk pages, place the templates, instructions at WP:Merge, and then await further comment. Jezhotwells (talk) 19:17, 31 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

image upload, vanier cup

http://www.pbase.com/goldengaelsphotos/image/70777203

Looking to change the image on the 'vanier cup' site to the image above.

It is located on the commons as well under Vanier2Mountie.

No success in translating it to the wiki page.

It would be appreciated if the current image could be replaced.

The reason for this is that the image I suggest is indeed clear.

Kind regards,

ETL —Preceding unsigned comment added by Rik4216 (talk • contribs) 19:42, 31 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Are you the copyright holder of this image? That is are you the photographer, Jeff Chan? Jezhotwells (talk) 21:46, 31 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Adding a college to your list of US College team nicknames

Please add this college to your incomplete list of US College Team Nicknames. The College is Westminster College located in New Wilmington, PA. Our nickname: Westminster Titans. Below is the link to your Wikipedia page. Thank you! Coach D. Roud

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_U.S._college_team_nicknames —Preceding unsigned comment added by Roudds (talk • contribs) 23:27, 31 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for your suggestion regarding List of U.S. college team nicknames . When you believe an article needs improvement, please feel free to make those changes. Wikipedia is a wiki, so anyone can edit almost any article by simply following the edit this page link at the top. The Wikipedia community encourages you to be bold in updating pages. Don't worry too much about making honest mistakes—they're likely to be found and corrected quickly. If you're not sure how editing works, check out how to edit a page, or use the sandbox to try out your editing skills. New contributors are always welcome. You don't even need to log in (although there are many reasons why you might want to). Tim1357 (talk) 04:40, 1 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Linda O'neil (model)

Resolved

– vandalism removed Jezhotwells (talk) 14:58, 1 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Linda O'neil's article recently stated that she is in a coma from falling down stairs at her home. I am startled, saddened and upset by this news and I am unable to confirm the info. anywhere else. Is it possible that this is an error? Can you confirm if this bit of news is true? Thank you.```` —Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.213.163.114 (talk) 12:44, 1 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

That was apparent vandalism to Linda O'Neil that has now been removed. There is no news story about such a fall. Best, CliffC (talk) 14:54, 1 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

New external link for Joan of Arc

It might be a good idea to add this external link on Joan of Arc page. French site containing pictures and descriptions of Medallions devoted to Joan of Arc.Médailles Jeanne d’Arc. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 88.170.174.89 (talk) 21:19, 1 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

You might think so, but probably not - what would this add to the understanding of the subject of the article? Please read WP:EL to get some idea. Thanks. Jezhotwells (talk) 22:01, 1 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Talk Page: Mary Beth Buchanan

I ask for editors assistance. I have added points on a discussion page and archived old discussions per Wiki Policy. A user going by the tag Drmies has taken it on his or her own to revert my edits three times. In addition, the user is being aggressive and threatening in nature. I do not see why a discussion page can not be used, but for some reasone Drmies seem focused on preventing such actions. Jacobe2727 —Preceding unsigned comment added by Jacob2727 (talk • contribs) 03:45, 2 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Have you edited from IP address 69.215.5.92? Tiderolls 03:48, 2 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Good question. BTW, Drmies is indeed my 'tag', but I have only reverted Jacob's edits twice--unless Jacob, of course, is also the abovementioned IP. And Jacob is being facetious: talk pages can be used! But they cannot be abused. BTW, I would have been glad to reinstate your 'discussion points' ([4] and [5])--but these points, unfortunately, don't make a lot of sense. Drmies (talk) 03:56, 2 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I would have to agree that this is very DUCKish. Q ^{T C} 03:57, 2 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Blocked IP and user, opening a CHU/SPI now. tedder (talk) 04:01, 2 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the quick response, tedder Tiderolls 04:02, 2 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Likewise! Drmies (talk) 04:08, 2 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

WP:TPS has its advantages. Here is the report: Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Jacob2727. Actually, it's TWO reports, Marek69 beat me by 10 minutes. tedder (talk) 04:11, 2 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Involuntary euthanasia

I made an edition on involuntary euthanasia. But Ratel deletes it again and again. We discussed Ratel's questions, but now he is not giving arguments but acussations. Therefore here I'm asking for an editor assitance.

See the discussion here: Talk:Involuntary_euthanasia#Murder

This is my edition and the quote box I added to the article:

Also in the modern world, any euthanasia, thus also involuntary euthanasia refers to some special legal situations, precisely some specific legal exceptions. For example in the Netherlands, euthanasia has not be decriminalized nor legalized by any means but it is illegal and defined in the Criminal Code as murder, although under certain conditions, the physician is not punishable when he or she terminates the life of a person[6] (Groningen Protocol is an example).

http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Involuntary_euthanasia&diff=323488822&oldid=323469068

"...The Committee is well aware that the new Act does not as such decriminalize euthanasia and assisted suicide...The new Act contains, however, a number of conditions under which the physician is not punishable when he or she terminates the life of a person"

UN - Concluding observations of the Human Rights Committee: Netherlands.[7]

190.25.99.55 (talk) 16:33, 2 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I would tend to agree with other editors that your additions have not improved the article and have introduced errors of fact and grammar. If you can't achieve consensus then walk away. Be aware of the three revert rule. Jezhotwells (talk) 18:37, 2 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

buzzwords flag

Mecha ant 16:45, 2 November 2009 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Mecha-ant (talk • contribs)

Buzzwords are explained at the relevant wikipage which is linked here and on the banner. Glancing at the article it does seem to have a surfeit of buzzwords. Clear plain English is best for an encyclopaedia, so that is what should be aimed for. You may wish to enlist the help of the WP:Guild of copyeditors to improve the article. Oh, and please remember to sign your posts using four (~)s. Jezhotwells (talk) 18:29, 2 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Inappropriate actions by a volunteer

I am reporting the volunteer Hullabaloo Wolfowitz for numerous inappropriate actions, including: inappropriate editing without explanations, summaries or discussions; for renegade editing and undoing of other volunteers' content and edits; erratic behavior related to editing popular pages at random times; and lack of explanation about his credentials and knowledge related to specific pages.

Thank you for addressing this request. Relax777 (talk) 17:25, 2 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Ummm, this is WP:Editor assistance/Requests. If you believe that another editor is behaving inappropriately then you may wish to read the list of places to report things at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard. These should only be used for serious misbehaviour howvere. You will need to provide diffs. Editing without edit summaries is generally frownnd upon, but is not a capital offence. Editors are not required to prove their "credentials and knowledge related to specific pages". Statements which are likely to be contested should be sourced with reliable 3rd party references.

If you disagree with the actions of another editors, the first thing to do is to discuss the edits on the relevant article talk page - you could also ask on the other editors' talk page. Jezhotwells (talk) 18:21, 2 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I checked the Wikipedia: Administrator's noticeboard, and there does not seem to be a better place to report a volunteer for the inappropriate actions of this volunteer, H. Wolfowitz. I will look into placing a protection on the page in question. I will also look into blocking this volunteer from pages I work on (he edited two pages yesterday right after I made quality, time-consuming edits on pages I have worked on in the past and am an authority on- Amy Grant and Warren Norman. Here is the diff: [8].

To Jezhotwells, before I posted this entry, I did begin discussion on the Editor's talk page for the page in question (Amy Grant). I have seen other edits and undos by this volunteer (Wolfowitz) but have never seen this volunteer participate in discussions of any kind.

The following is from Hullabaloo Wolfowitz's personal profile on wikipedia: "Hullaballoo Wolfowitz is back after a long absence. And after a longer period of silence. I do not know how long I will stay this time. The last time I did what I could to follow policy. But I was regularly hounded by aggressive editors because they did not want to. Perhaps things will go better this time." This entry is revealing about this volunteer. He admits he "did what I could to follow policy". His behavior is erratic. One of the sentences makes absolutely no sense. I will continue to do what I can to protect pages from this volunteer and push to have him blocked. Relax777 (talk) 05:07, 3 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Hey

I just installed the merge tag at List of wars 1945-1989. Spread the word. B-Machine (talk) 22:20, 2 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Done. FYI, the common place to do this is at Wikipedia:Proposed mergers. I added your request to the list. Them From Space

Confirmation of Notability

Hello, Wikipedia Recently I tried to put up a Wikipedia page for a Republican congressional candidate in the Illinois 11th District, Henry Meers. However, it said that candidacy does not confer notability, thus his page was taken down. I was just wondering why his opponent Adam Kinzinger was allowed to keep his page up. He has not won the Republican primary and is notthe solo challenger of Democratic incumbent Debbie Halverson?

I'm very new to Wikipedia and don't exactly know if this is the right place to post. If it is the wrong place, could somebody please direct me to the correct forum to post my question. I appreciate all the help Cgougs —Preceding unsigned comment added by Cgougs (talk • contribs) 23:00, 2 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Cgougs. You created two pages on the same subject, Henry W. Meers Jr. and Henry Meers. The first page was deleted under section G7 of the criteria for speedy deletion (deletion log entry) as you blanked the page, which we take as a request to delete for a new article. The second page was deleted 4 separate times (deletion log entry): once also as a G7 as you blanked the page, earlier under section WP:CSD#G12 as a copyright violation (and restored with the violating content removed), and ultimately under section a7 as failing to indicate the importance of the topic. This is very important: we judge notability based on the subject having been written about in reliable sources. The article cited no sources whatever. Please see WP:CITE for how to cite. See also Wikipedia:reliable sources and Wikipedia:verifiability. Our notability guideline for politicians is here. You'll see that on that page it says:

Just being an elected local official, or an unelected candidate for political office, does not guarantee notability, although such people can still be notable if they meet the primary notability criterion of "significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject of the article."

Now as to your specific question, the simple fact that an article exists on one topic and another, similarly situated has been deleted, tells you almost nothing. Because of the way Wikipedia is administered in a non-central fashion, there are often many pages that exist that should not. Please see by way of analogy What about article x?. In this case, though, the page you compared the deleted article to is not similar. The article on Adam Kinzinger cites five sources, whereas the page you posted cited none. That is night and day here, once you understand that sourcing content is the gold standard upon which all of our content policies ultimately rely. Finally, you should note that articles deleted under A7 only have to assert importance, not meet notability standards. I personally would not have deleted the article as I think it did enough to indicate importance. However, avoid all these problems: recreate the article with reliable sources cited that are independent of the candidate and treat him with substantive detail. If you can't do that, Wikipedia probably should not have an article on him. Cheers.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 23:27, 2 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Information related to an article about a catholic school in El Salvador

Hello to all,

As you can see in my history I have edited (with solid knowledge of this matter) the article regarding Liceo Salvadoreño, A Marist Catholic School in San Salvador, El Salvador. Twice the update I made to the page has been deleted by another user (the same both times) I know for a fact I am correct in the two updates i made to this page. Both in english as well as in Spanish. I graduated from this school in 1979. I started my studies there in 1968. I visit the school frequently at least 2 twice a year since 2004 and I have spoken whith the previous pricipals of the school since 2001 in regards of the updates that were deleted form both pages. I need to ask/find out how I can have help/assistance in preventing this other user from deleting the changes I make to the english/spanish versions of the page.

I am a US citizen living in San Francisco. and my email address is <email address redacted> Any help you can provide me will be welcome

Francisco Jaime Mejia —Preceding unsigned comment added by Liceo (talk • contribs) 00:26, 3 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I see that you haven't bothered to discuss this on the article talk page which you should do. I can only assume that the earlier reversions you mention were made by you using an IP address as none of your recent edits have been reverted. as the article has no references at all, it is not possible to determine which versions are correct. The article has a number of issues, which I have tagged. I have placed some useful links on your talk page, which I suggest you read, if you are interested in improving the artcile. Jezhotwells (talk) 00:39, 3 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

HIV dissent

Hello,

I a writing regarding a biased POV issue regarding the current editors of HIV and AIDS denialism. The issue is this: Numerous people have presented edits to both of the above pages to clarify biased POV, inflamatory language, and attempted to include information of a somewhat dissenting viewpoint to the more popularly accepted viewpoints on the topic.

The end result is that none of the alternative information has been included, and the editors personally attack those proposing the edits, as well as the sources for the edits. As a perfect example, I recently posted to the HIV talk page regarding an interview with Luc Montagnier, the discoverer of HIV. I was told that he was an unreliable source, not on the basis of his historical contributions to the topic, but rather on the basis that the editors disagree with the viewpoint contained in the interview.

I feel, as do others who have expressed concerns in the HIV and AIDS denialism talk pages, that important information is being censored based on a clearly biased POV.

In an attempt to include the dissenting information in the Wiki, I started an article entitled HIV dissent. In the past 48 hours, it has been reverted to forward to AIDS denialism, and the reasoning is that the editors of HIV and AIDS denialism seem to view it as a POV Fork. That being said, the information I have thus far included on the HIV dissent article is not duplicated on the AIDS denialism article.

HIV and AIDS are not the same thing, and there are those who question the science behind HIV, and those who deny the existence of AIDS. While there are those who can be classified into both groups, the two topics are not identical, nor is the information or science behind them.

Thank you for your time. Neuromancer (talk) 05:57, 3 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Please discuss at Talk:AIDS denialism#HIV dissent. - 2/0 (cont.) 07:12, 3 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

External Links

Hi all...

I did insert a link to an External Website in regards to the Wikipedia Article about The Sacred Lake of Ganga Talao ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ganga_Talao ). The link is http://www.gangatalao.org which is a website that provides more information about the Sacred Lake itself, prayers, event coverage at the lake.

But a couple of months after, it was removed by a specific user (Ronz) stating that the website is a Tourism Portal thus an innapropriate link. We do acknowledge that for most of the people outside Mauritius, the lake is considered as a Tourist Spot, but for us its really not that.

I added the website in the External Links section in order for the visitors to be able to get more information and not as a Source for the article itself.

So i humbly make a request for some assistance in regards to this query.

With Thanks Kamal Rambauz

Kamal2099 (talk) 14:45, 3 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I have to agree with Ronz that the page shouldn't be linked to from that article. The website generally does not give an encyclopedic presentation of the subject in a way which our article can not. Please read over our external links guidelines to see what types of links we accept and what types are discouraged. Them From Space 16:03, 3 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Movie Review Intelligence

I'm looking for an editor to advise on how to whitelist the Movie Review Intelligence URL. I understand that the site was blacklisted for editing individual movie pages to include its review information - this has ceased and will not continue. We would like our URL to be whitelisted for possible future constructive use (i.e. a topic page when it is deemed appropriate). Is there an editor willing to review our case and help us co-operate with Wikipedia and its guidelines? Thank you Ashleyetc (talk) 22:59, 3 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

At this point in time, there is no reason to whitelist. If an established editor with no connections to the site deems it warrants an article in the future, an application for whitelisting for that specific article could then be considered. However, the site doesn't currently appear to be notable enough for an article. (This is not a comment on the site itself, but instead a reflection of the scope and purpose of Wikipedia, which is an encyclopedia with a global audience and not a directory service.) --Ckatz^chat_spy 01:00, 4 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Content dispute on Talk:Brazil

There appears to be a content dispute on the Brazil talk page. Also some disagreement about reliability of sources. The dispute is between User:Lecen and User:Opinoso. Other editors have already tried to help but with limited success. User:Lecen is still appealing for help. If anyone could help calm the waters, it would be hugely appreciated. Marek.69 ^talk 01:31, 4 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Consider one of the many routes for dispute resolution.--Unionhawk ^Talk ^E-mail ^Review 01:38, 4 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Want Editors to contact poster of Mercy International foundations that organisation can edit/update the content

The Directors of Mercy International Inc of Australia want to update the content of Wikipedia on Mercy International Foundation but they do not know the registered account holder for the entry. Could Wikipedia contact the person and request them to contact the MI office that is now in Brisbane (Kallangar) or make themself known to one of the managers/directors in Thailand or go through the contact page in the new website www.mercy-international.com MercyInterRod (talk) 05:07, 4 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Anybody can edit any article. The identity of an editor is private. Grsz¹¹ 05:12, 4 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

But also note our conflict of interest guidance. If you have concerns about the article, please raise them on the article's talk page. – ukexpat (talk) 16:46, 4 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

ND-NOTIS (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)

NOTIS: I am trying my best to be as concise as possible. I myself have coded large pieces of the software, managed more. On the top of the page you post:

This article does not cite any references or sources. Please help improve this article by adding citations to reliable sources. Unsourced material may be challenged and removed. (May 2008)

OK - but the Internet was not invented before 1993, so little if any references exist of software that lead up to the net. What I have is printed manuals: "User Guides." - and I contest someone to search e.g. the Seybold report for 1983 to find descriptions. Please understand that Internet documentation has to start somewhere, and since this has remain uncontested now - just remove the banner, and replace with a plead should anyone know of references.

This article is written like an advertisement. Please help rewrite this article from a neutral point of view. For blatant advertising that would require a fundamental rewrite to become encyclopedic, use {{db-spam}} to mark for speedy deletion. (May 2008)

Hmmmpp. It is pretty neutral and to the fact. It cannot be advertising, because the company - Norsk Data seized to exist in 1996, and the only place they still conduct support of the NOTIS products is in the UK. So allegation of advertising is like talking of the dead, and Wikipedia should be better than that. Remove the banner and send contributors a apology - or no further articles, postings and corrections will be done on historic material.

I can post articles of how Norsk Data was involved in the financing of Oracle, Ingres, Sybase, Microsoft, SCO (Novell), SGI, Sun - and how these companies thrive on software and hardware that originates from this company in the cold north (and funds). One of the products mentioned as NOTIS-QL - or Access-1 is the template for Access in Microsoft Office Suite. They worked on an early version of the NOTIS-QL, and consultants from ND worked in Seattle.

I do not have the timesheets that these consultants filed - so there goes that "evidence" I could use. But that does not alter the fact that the same consultants can go with me to court and explain what they did. With the database software it is more obvious, since the funding is traceable. But: Do you want reference to SEC filings in the early 1980 in Wikipedia? Is such "evidence" interesting for anyone? What I write is for the reader that search for information - and not for the editors of Wikipedia.

If this is a problem - you need to sort out the legal issues. A simple way would be to ask me to email you a scanned copy of parts of the system documentation - sufficient to knock anyone claiming otherwise of their feet in court. Then you amend to the article that "evidence supporting claims have been submitted". In the above case, I still may even be able to submit source code - in PLANC

KHF 15:04, 4 November 2009 (UTC) - Knut H. Flottorp —Preceding unsigned comment added by Khflottorp (talk • contribs) 14:04, 4 November 2009 (UTC

You need to read and understand Wikpedia's guidelines on reliable sources for referencing, verifiability, notability and other Wikipedia policies including conflict of interest. How to edit a page is a good place to start. Timesheets and softwae documentation are not good reliable sources, but 3rd party reviews and comment in the press or technical journals are. Print sources can be used, there is no requirement for sources to be online. How do you think articles on dead writers or politicians or most anything that occurred more than fifty years ago are sourced? Take some time to look at a number of other articles, see how they are structured and referenced. Unsurprisingly it takes some time to learns the ins and outs of this. Oh, and don't forget to sign your posts with four (~)s. There is a link at the bottom of the edit box.

like an ad doesn't need a sponsor as puffery is not testable in any case- the hallmark is untestable claims or adjectives. You need others to have noted the topic in citable sources to establish notability but then other verifiable sources can make some contributions but gnosticism ("secret knowledge") doesn't help here. There are plenty of places for original or creative or documentary works but probably not here. Even scientific review articles are arguably different from encyclopedic articles. Nerdseeksblonde (talk) 15:40, 4 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

new article entitled: Direct-EI LC-MS Interface

I just prepared a new article which is ready for a review. How does it work? If accepted, when the article will be visible? --Ac01it (talk) 16:21, 4 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

The article is in the mainspace at Direct-EI LC-MS interface. I will review it shortly, but in the meantime, is that the most common title for the article's subject matter - would someone searching for the article search for that title? – ukexpat (talk) 16:50, 4 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Most of the content is completely over my head, but I have tweaked the formatting per the Manual of Style. It does still read more like a scientific paper than an encyclopedic article IMHO, but I can't fix that. – ukexpat (talk) 17:16, 4 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Martin Clark (author)

Resolved

– Jezhotwells (talk) 23:42, 5 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Good morning. I am seeking help with my article "Martin Clark (author)". Martin Clark (author) (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) In the past, other editors have been very helpful in terms of assisting me with a disambiguation link for this article. People were both quick and skilled in answering my questions. Unfortunately, my article is now tagged with a NPOV template. Since that problem arose, I have recieved additonal advice, and I rewrote the article. (There was also a concern it read like an advertisement.) I am informed that my original entry seemed less than objective because I included too much positive info about Mr. Clark in an effort to demostrate his noteworthiness. Unfortunately, there were no specific notes or comments left with my warning templates, and I have not yet heard back from the editor who placed them on my piece, though I only contacted him/her recently. At any rate, now that the article has been redone, I'd appreciate input and help and advice as to how to get it finalized. Please feel free to change it or edit it or correct it. I'd just like to get it worked out. I'm a big fan of Martin Clark and would like to see him in Wikipedia, but I'm running out of steam. Many thanks and please feel free to reply on my talk page. Eddland1 (talk) 16:47, 4 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Post Script--Just got confirmation from the tagging editor that all is now correct. I'm good to go. Many thanks, sorry for the trouble, no need for any help.

MIT Blackjack team

Hello

I have been trying to add information to the subject of MIT blackjack team. I am not a College Professor or anything but I wanted to add a few facts that I am aware of and post them. I worked hard this last edit to put everything out there correctly. I just wanted to set the record stright about this subject. here is what I wrote

It was in this time period that casinos began to subscribe to the services of Griffin Investigations, a company that provided the casinos information on individuals suspcted of "unfair" play.The first members identified in the late 1970's as team players were Carlos L. Minchew and Richard D.Guillot

Everytime I post this I get shot down. I am not a computer wiz, just a guy who know the facts of this section. What I put in is fact and I would like to see this entry added but I am at a loss. Please help me if you can

Thanks My email is <e-mail redacted>Scottbutari (talk) 19:34, 4 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Do you have reliable sources for your edits? I am afraid that your personal knowledge is not sufficient. – ukexpat (talk) 19:46, 4 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for your fast attention Yes I have reliable sorces. Griffin Investigations released this information in Griffin Book in December 1979. Carlos L. Minchew and Richard D Guillot were identified as "team card counters" and both were members of of the MIT team.

But the information that you added was not reverenced to reliable sources. Please read WP:Citations and find out how to add cited information. Discuss this on teh artcile talk page before adding. Jezhotwells (talk) 23:34, 5 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

hi Editor

can you please be kind enough and explain me HOW I must proceed to correct a page with wrong statements? It havent notes or statements supporting statements

Well it would help if you provide the name of the page to which you are referring AND if you sign your post with four (~)s. Wikipedia:About#Contributing to Wikipedia is a good starting place. Jezhotwells (talk) 23:41, 5 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Reference Overkill?

Resolved

– – ukexpat (talk) 20:19, 5 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I am greatly expanding the article on the 9th Queens Royal Lancers:-

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/9th_Queen%27s_Royal_Lancers

although I can only do it small chunks when time permits. All of my material comes from two books which deal with the Regiment's history and they are both listed in the page's 'References' section.

I think common sense says that it would be overkill to keep citing the same source of each and every sentence with these sources as it would be highgly repetitive and a waste of time and space.

However, another user has requested a specific quote to be cited in the http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/9th_Queen%27s_Royal_Lancers#Boer_Wars section. Looking into the future I can see other users requesting citations for other sentences that come from the same two books also.

What is the best way to deal with this? Is it to add a sentence at the top of the sections I write saying something like "the bulk of this section is drawn from Refs A and B" rather than citing several hundred sentences with the same two refs?

Thanks --WickerWiki (talk) 12:02, 5 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Here's a link to the section on citations.[9] (It is also at the top of your talk page.) When I have been in similar circumstances I have sourced each section as I wrote it, citing a page range for each, e.g., pp 71-78. The Four Deuces (talk) 12:32, 5 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Note that quotations require an inline citation to immediately follow them, always. So if you go with citing each section as Four Deuces suggests, do also add an inline citation, even if it is the same one you are using at the end of the section, also at the end of every quote inside the section. See Wikipedia:Verifiability ("All quotations and any material challenged or likely to be challenged must be attributed to a reliable, published source using an inline citation").--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 13:44, 5 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks Guys :-) That resolves my question. --WickerWiki (talk) 20:01, 5 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

And don't forget that you can use named references to avoid repetition of the citation details in the References section. – ukexpat (talk) 20:19, 5 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

delete my post forever

I have posted an article but it has been removed. I actually want to remove it myself too. However, now when i search for it on google i can still see the link, when i click on it, it says the page has been deleted. My question is, can you delete it so that it doesn't show on google anymore and it doesn't say the page has been deleted? Is there a way that it's completely removed and even when i search for it, it'll just give me "no result"? thanks

—Preceding unsigned comment added by Juusiuyin (talk • contribs) 12:54, 5 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Juusiuyin. We have no control over Google. Google catalogues our pages and then lists what it has found. When it does a subsequent cataloguing, it will update it listings but we can't influence that in any way I know of, short of communicating with someone at Google who has their hand on the button. My experience is that it can take up to three weeks for a change or deletion here to propagate to Google.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 13:36, 5 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

'LOL' I have read about situations where the government has been thought to have intervened ( removing links to whitehouse or stuff like that) and I don't think GOOG won any friends showing up in DC in tee shirts( don't recall details but I think something like that did happen, DC is all about show). Anyway, you may have better luck talking to a politician than anyone here. Nerdseeksblonde (talk) 14:06, 5 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

It will still show up on Google, but, depending on the circumstances, you can request oversight.--Unionhawk ^Talk ^E-mail ^Review 14:52, 5 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Removal of sourced information

Hi.

I would like to report that somebody using the IP 81.158.212.206 is removing sourced information from this article: P.O.D. (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views). The source is reliable (Allmusic), and the person using this IP simply removed it and don' give said the reason. Plese, I would like that any administrator could speak with that person. And sorry for my English.

Bye. (JoaquimMetalhead (talk) 01:18, 6 November 2009 (UTC))[reply]

Yes these kind of edit wars inviolving different opinions on music genres are realtively common in artciles about bands. The best thing to do in my opinion is warn editiors who removed sourced matwrial, using WP:TWINKLE or similar, and build consensus on the talk paqge as to the appropriate genres. Jezhotwells (talk) 10:05, 6 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

assumed office lack of clarity

in most irish politician pages, they have "assumed office" for both the date they win an election and they date they are appointed to particular position in government or party, which is quite unclear... i was hoping to scrape the info for timeline, but even dbpedia uses termstart for both coming from wikipedia

they also use in office

so i guess im looking for the categories to split and defined more clearly across all irish politicians,whats the best way to get that done?

eg http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brian_Cowen —Preceding unsigned comment added by Lostexpectation (talk • contribs) 11:41, 6 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Hmmm, you might get some useful input at WT:WikiProject Ireland Jezhotwells (talk) 11:57, 6 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

ok but its seem to be the same for all politicians, eg http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tony_blair "in office" used for positions and election —Preceding unsigned comment added by Lostexpectation (talk • contribs) 12:07, 6 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Perhaps if you clarify exactly what it is that you are trying to do. Jezhotwells (talk) 13:02, 6 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

in most politician pages, they have "assumed office" or "in office" for both the date they win an election and the date they are appointed to a particular position in government or party, which is quite unclear, im looking for consensus for the categories to be split and defined more clearly across all politicians, ie consensus on a short title for the highlights boxes, one for "elected to office"...date and one for "appointed to position in government or in party" ... date, what's the best way to get that done?

Lostexpectation (talk) 14:44, 6 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]