User talk:Yvesnimmo

List of songs in Glee

Hey! I don't know whether you've seen, but Glee (season 1) passed FL :D Over on the Good Topic talkpage, Ucucha has suggested that we should try and include the season's musical articles as well as episodes in a GT nom, which would entail pushing the five album/EP articles and the concert tour up to GA, and the song list (which is probably about ready for splitting into separate season 1 and 2 lists) to FL. With the latter in mind, I've found that List of songs in Guitar Hero and its sequels are about the only comparable existing FLs. I think over time, the Glee song list has grown more elaborate and possibly less functional, and that simplifying and modelling it a little more after the Guitar Hero example might be beneficial. Particularly I think that making it sortable would be a good way to go. As a major contributor to the article, I wanted to consult you before making any changes, and to see what we can come up with. I'm playing about with it a bit in a sandbox so you can see roughly what I'm thinking, and I'm eager to hear your thoughts :D Frickative 18:01, 4 September 2010 (UTC)

Hey there! That sounds perfect! I just saw the sandbox page you started, and it looks amazing! Must have taken so much time, so props to you! And yes, I would very much be interested in promoting those articles to (at least) GA. Sorry I haven't responded about Glee: The Music, Volume 1; I got busy with some other things. Alright, now we have something to work towards! I will definitely contribute, and love the idea to split the song list into seasons, and then just make the original article a disambiguation page. Go ahead! :D Yvesnimmo (talk) 07:29, 6 September 2010 (UTC)

The information I was adding DID have a reliable source, I was adding it when my information got wiped out! And I don't appreciate being patronized!SPNic (talk) 19:21, 15 October 2010 (UTC)

DYK for Grilled Cheesus

— Rlevse • Talk • 18:05, 28 September 2010 (UTC)

Edit Summaries

Who has two thumbs and doesn't care about edit summaries? THIS GUY!!! Quit spamming my talk page kthx. --TheTruthiness (talk) 05:09, 29 September 2010 (UTC)

• • IT'S NOT A RULE, I don't have to put edit summaries, I don't want to, won't. Keep it up and I'll report you for abuse. --TheTruthiness (talk) 05:24, 29 September 2010 (UTC)

I replied on my talk page. Oleg Alexandrov (talk) 17:40, 29 September 2010 (UTC)

Congrats

		The Music Barnstar
		I award you this for your great work on Nicki Minaj discography cleaning it up (except adding the airplay Pop Songs chart) lol! Maybe sometimes soon we can collaborate on making the article a FL, if interested. Congratulations, you deserve it! Candyo32 21:19, 30 September 2010 (UTC)

ka:თარგი:მუსიკის ვიკიორდენი

Beyonce Discography

Hi, thanks a lot. I'm happy you like my work. Henceforth, i will use the edit summary box. Don't worry, i haven't added anything contributing to vandalism. On the contrary, i am improving it. I have made the whole (practically the whole as i am still left with 4 more references) verificable. Just compare how it was before i start to work on it. Thanks a lot for your appreciation. Jivesh boodhun (talk) 08:24, 2 October 2010 (UTC)

Ok, thanks for your guidance. Jivesh boodhun (talk) 05:36, 5 October 2010 (UTC)

Succession boxes

Hi. I see you are against the removal of succession boxes from articles for songs and albums that hit #1 on music charts. There is a discussion ongoing at WT:CHARTS and, while the general opinion seems to be against them and consensus is growing in that direction, it is valuable to have opinions from all sides. --Starcheerspeaksnewslostwars (talk) 10:28, 2 October 2010 (UTC)

Re: October 2010

Arg! I'm so frustrated with myself. I usually ALWAYS forget about that. I'll be sure to remember before I save anything. ΣПDiПG–STΛЯT (Talk) 21:33, 2 October 2010 (UTC)

Loud

No she wrote that music. She wrote all the song "Cheers", but there is a sample parts too that will remember the Avril Lavigne's songs. Vitor Mazuco ^Msg 23:22, 2 October 2010 (UTC)

Is a sample and wrote all that song. Vitor Mazuco ^Msg 23:27, 2 October 2010 (UTC)

Writting is a collaboration, you're not understanding about it. Vitor Mazuco ^Msg 23:34, 2 October 2010 (UTC)

Avril is a songwriters than album. Vitor Mazuco ^Msg 23:35, 2 October 2010 (UTC)

DYK for Chord Overstreet

The DYK project (nominate) 00:03, 3 October 2010 (UTC)

Ummmm...

Good with trying to get people to leave an edit summary on everything that is done on here. I've learned that it's not going to happen. Plus the fact you seemingly wasted your time telling me this, someone whose been editing long enough, seemed a bit condescending. No offense. Mr. C.C.^{Hey yo!}_{I didn't do it!} 08:55, 3 October 2010 (UTC)

Some "minor" edits I generally don't add a summary. I add summaries for larger edits. For that specific edit, all I did was just turned the ref list into two columns.Mr. C.C.^{Hey yo!}_{I didn't do it!} 12:40, 3 October 2010 (UTC)

See what? Mr. C.C.^{Hey yo!}_{I didn't do it!} 18:55, 3 October 2010 (UTC)

Were looking at the references section of Just the Way You Are (Bruno Mars song)? That's what I changed to make it into two columns. Mr. C.C.^{Hey yo!}_{I didn't do it!} 19:57, 3 October 2010 (UTC)

I guess something is messed up on your end. I can see it fine. Mr. C.C.^{Hey yo!}_{I didn't do it!} 20:32, 3 October 2010 (UTC)

I use Firefox and that's why I'm able to see it. Mr. C.C.^{Hey yo!}_{I didn't do it!} 23:41, 3 October 2010 (UTC)

Help

I am trying to add the deluxe edition of the Australian release of Doo-Wops & Hooligans to the album page (date: October 15, 2010; label: Warner Music), but it's messing up for some reason. This is what I'm trying to accomplish:

{|class="wikitable"
|-
! Region
! Date
! [[Record label|Label(s)]]
! Formats
! Edition
|-
|France<ref>{{Cite web|url=http://www.amazon.fr/Doo-Wops-Hooligans/dp/B00443PTL4/|title=Doo-Wops & Hooligans|language=French|publisher=[[Amazon.com|Amazon.fr]]|accessdate=September 29, 2010}}</ref>
|rowspan="2"|October 4, 2010
|[[Warner Music Group|Warner Music]]
|rowspan="2"|[[Music download|Digital download]]
|Standard
|-
|United States<ref name="AmazonUS" /><ref name="AmazonDeluxe" />
|[[Atlantic Records|Atlantic]], [[Elektra Records|Elektra]]
|Standard, Deluxe
|-
|Austria<ref>{{Cite web|url=http://www.amazon.de/Tbd-Bruno-Mars/dp/B003ZJ0ZX0/|title=Tbd|language=German|publisher=[[Amazon.com|Amazon.at]]|accessdate=September 29, 2010}}</ref>
|rowspan="5"|October 5, 2010
|rowspan="4"|Warner Music
|rowspan="3"|[[Compact Disc|CD]]
|rowspan="3"|Standard
|-
|Canada<ref>{{Cite web|url=http://www.amazon.ca/Doo-Wops-Hooligans-Bruno-Mars/dp/B003ZJ0ZX0/|title=Doo - Wops & Hooligans: Bruno Mars|publisher=[[Amazon.com|Amazon.ca]]|accessdate=September 29, 2010}}</ref>
|-
|Germany<ref>{{Cite web|url=http://www.amazon.de/Tbd-Bruno-Mars/dp/B003ZJ0ZX0/|title=Tbd|language=German|publisher=[[Amazon.com|Amazon.de]]|accessdate=September 29, 2010}}</ref>
|-
|Mexico<ref>{{Cite web|url=http://itunes.apple.com/mx/album/doo-wops-hooligans/id394282240|title=Doo-Wops & Hooligans|publisher=[[iTunes Store]] México|language=Spanish|accessdate=October 5, 2010}}</ref><ref>{{Cite web|url=http://itunes.apple.com/mx/album/doo-wops-hooligans-deluxe/id394571295|title=Doo-Wops & Hooligans (Deluxe Version)|publisher=[[iTunes Store]] México|language=Spanish|accessdate=October 5, 2010}}</ref>
|Digital download
|Standard, Deluxe
|-
|United States<ref name="Unveils"/><ref>{{Cite web|url=http://www.target.com/Doo-wops-Hooligans-DVD-Bonus-Tracks/dp/B0042LRTBG/|title=Doo-wops & Hooligans (CD/DVD)(Bonus Tracks) - Only at Target|publisher=[[Target Corporation]]|accessdate=October 3, 2010}}</ref>
|Atlantic, Elektra
|rowspan="3"|CD
|Standard, Deluxe
|-
|New Zealand<ref>{{Cite web|url=http://www.warnermusic.co.nz/news/bruno-mars-unveils-album|title=BRUNO MARS UNVEILS EAGERLY AWAITED DEBUT ALBUM “DOO–WOPS & HOOLIGANS”|publisher=[[Warner Music Group|Warner Music]] New Zealand|accessdate=September 14, 2010}}</ref>
|October 11, 2010
|rowspan="3"|Warner Music
|rowspan="2"|Standard
|-
|rowspan="2"|Australia<ref>{{Cite web|url=http://www.sanity.com.au/products/2190666/Doo_Wops_And_Hooligans|title=Doo Wops And Hooligans|publisher=[[Sanity (music store)|Sanity]]|accessdate=September 29, 2010}}</ref><ref>{{Cite web|url=http://itunes.apple.com/au/preorder/doo-wops-hooligans-deluxe/id396985582|title=Doo-Wops & Hooligans (Deluxe Version)|publisher=[[iTunes Store]] Australia|accessdate=October 9, 2010}}</ref>
|rowspan="2"|October 15, 2010
|-
|Digital download
|Deluxe
|-
|United Kingdom<ref>{{Cite web|url=http://www.amazon.co.uk/Doo-Wops-Hooligans-Bruno-Mars/dp/B003ZJ0ZX0/|title=Doo Wops & Hooligans|publisher=[[Amazon.com|Amazon.co.uk]]|accessdate=October 3, 2010}}</ref>
|January 24, 2011
|Elektra
|CD
|Standard
|}

and it comes out as:

Region	Date	Label(s)	Formats	Edition
France	October 4, 2010	Warner Music	Digital download	Standard
United States		Atlantic, Elektra		Standard, Deluxe
Austria	October 5, 2010	Warner Music	CD	Standard
Canada
Germany
Mexico			Digital download	Standard, Deluxe
United States		Atlantic, Elektra	CD	Standard, Deluxe
New Zealand	October 11, 2010	Warner Music		Standard
Australia	October 15, 2010
			Digital download	Deluxe
United Kingdom	January 24, 2011	Elektra	CD	Standard

The "Australia" and "October 15, 2010" cells are not coming out as a rowspan of 2. Am I doing something wrong here? Articles like I Am... Sasha Fierce and The Fame Monster have this done correctly, and I'm not sure why it's not working here. Thanks in advance! Yves (talk) 02:50, 10 October 2010 (UTC)

Hmm, I can't seem to get it to work either. I've been working on it for like 15 minutes and it's doing the exact same thing to me as it is to you. I even thought maybe another rowspan was off, but I can't seem to figure it out. EnDaLeCoMpLeX (contributions) • (let's chat) 03:01, 10 October 2010 (UTC)

So frustrating. I don't know where I'm going wrong here. I know it's not anything to do with the references, because I even tried removing all of them (I cringed whilst doing so) and the same thing showed up in the preview. And it doesn't work when I try adding the Canadian deluxe edition, either. Yves (talk) 03:21, 10 October 2010 (UTC)

Very strange. I don't think I've ever come across a problem like this before. Maybe try retyping it all over again? Or have you tried that already? EnDaLeCoMpLeX (contributions) • (let's chat) 03:28, 10 October 2010 (UTC)

Okay, trying out something simpler. Only looking at New Zealand downward, with no rowspans:

{|class="wikitable"
|-
! Region
! Date
! [[Record label|Label(s)]]
! Formats
! Edition
|-
|New Zealand<ref>{{Cite web|url=http://www.warnermusic.co.nz/news/bruno-mars-unveils-album|title=BRUNO MARS UNVEILS EAGERLY AWAITED DEBUT ALBUM “DOO–WOPS & HOOLIGANS”|publisher=[[Warner Music Group|Warner Music]] New Zealand|accessdate=September 14, 2010}}</ref>
|October 11, 2010
|Warner Music
|CD
|Standard
|-
|Australia<ref>{{Cite web|url=http://www.sanity.com.au/products/2190666/Doo_Wops_And_Hooligans|title=Doo Wops And Hooligans|publisher=[[Sanity (music store)|Sanity]]|accessdate=September 29, 2010}}</ref><ref>{{Cite web|url=http://itunes.apple.com/au/preorder/doo-wops-hooligans-deluxe/id396985582|title=Doo-Wops & Hooligans (Deluxe Version)|publisher=[[iTunes Store]] Australia|accessdate=October 9, 2010}}</ref>
|October 15, 2010
|Warner Music
|CD
|Standard
|-
|Australia
|October 15, 2010
|Warner Music
|Digital download
|Deluxe
|-
|United Kingdom<ref>{{Cite web|url=http://www.amazon.co.uk/Doo-Wops-Hooligans-Bruno-Mars/dp/B003ZJ0ZX0/|title=Doo Wops & Hooligans|publisher=[[Amazon.com|Amazon.co.uk]]|accessdate=October 3, 2010}}</ref>
|January 24, 2011
|Elektra
|CD
|Standard
|}

comes out fine as:

Region	Date	Label(s)	Formats	Edition
New Zealand	October 11, 2010	Warner Music	CD	Standard
Australia	October 15, 2010	Warner Music	CD	Standard
Australia	October 15, 2010	Warner Music	Digital download	Deluxe
United Kingdom	January 24, 2011	Elektra	CD	Standard

and when I merge a couple of cells, it comes out great as:

{|class="wikitable"
|-
! Region
! Date
! [[Record label|Label(s)]]
! Formats
! Edition
|-
|New Zealand<ref>{{Cite web|url=http://www.warnermusic.co.nz/news/bruno-mars-unveils-album|title=BRUNO MARS UNVEILS EAGERLY AWAITED DEBUT ALBUM “DOO–WOPS & HOOLIGANS”|publisher=[[Warner Music Group|Warner Music]] New Zealand|accessdate=September 14, 2010}}</ref>
|October 11, 2010
|rowspan="3"|Warner Music
|CD
|rowspan="2"|Standard
|-
|rowspan="2"|Australia<ref>{{Cite web|url=http://www.sanity.com.au/products/2190666/Doo_Wops_And_Hooligans|title=Doo Wops And Hooligans|publisher=[[Sanity (music store)|Sanity]]|accessdate=September 29, 2010}}</ref><ref>{{Cite web|url=http://itunes.apple.com/au/preorder/doo-wops-hooligans-deluxe/id396985582|title=Doo-Wops & Hooligans (Deluxe Version)|publisher=[[iTunes Store]] Australia|accessdate=October 9, 2010}}</ref>
|rowspan="2"|October 15, 2010
|CD
|-
|Digital download
|Deluxe
|-
|United Kingdom<ref>{{Cite web|url=http://www.amazon.co.uk/Doo-Wops-Hooligans-Bruno-Mars/dp/B003ZJ0ZX0/|title=Doo Wops & Hooligans|publisher=[[Amazon.com|Amazon.co.uk]]|accessdate=October 3, 2010}}</ref>
|January 24, 2011
|Elektra
|CD
|Standard
|}

Region	Date	Label(s)	Formats	Edition
New Zealand	October 11, 2010	Warner Music	CD	Standard
Australia	October 15, 2010		CD
			Digital download	Deluxe
United Kingdom	January 24, 2011	Elektra	CD	Standard

The problem is, though, when I try to merge the New Zealand and Australia "CD" cells:

{|class="wikitable"
|-
! Region
! Date
! [[Record label|Label(s)]]
! Formats
! Edition
|-
|New Zealand<ref>{{Cite web|url=http://www.warnermusic.co.nz/news/bruno-mars-unveils-album|title=BRUNO MARS UNVEILS EAGERLY AWAITED DEBUT ALBUM “DOO–WOPS & HOOLIGANS”|publisher=[[Warner Music Group|Warner Music]] New Zealand|accessdate=September 14, 2010}}</ref>
|October 11, 2010
|rowspan="3"|Warner Music
|rowspan="2"|CD
|rowspan="2"|Standard
|-
|rowspan="2"|Australia<ref>{{Cite web|url=http://www.sanity.com.au/products/2190666/Doo_Wops_And_Hooligans|title=Doo Wops And Hooligans|publisher=[[Sanity (music store)|Sanity]]|accessdate=September 29, 2010}}</ref><ref>{{Cite web|url=http://itunes.apple.com/au/preorder/doo-wops-hooligans-deluxe/id396985582|title=Doo-Wops & Hooligans (Deluxe Version)|publisher=[[iTunes Store]] Australia|accessdate=October 9, 2010}}</ref>
|rowspan="2"|October 15, 2010
|-
|Digital download
|Deluxe
|-
|United Kingdom<ref>{{Cite web|url=http://www.amazon.co.uk/Doo-Wops-Hooligans-Bruno-Mars/dp/B003ZJ0ZX0/|title=Doo Wops & Hooligans|publisher=[[Amazon.com|Amazon.co.uk]]|accessdate=October 3, 2010}}</ref>
|January 24, 2011
|Elektra
|CD
|Standard
|}

And I get:

Region	Date	Label(s)	Formats	Edition
New Zealand	October 11, 2010	Warner Music	CD	Standard
Australia	October 15, 2010
			Digital download	Deluxe
United Kingdom	January 24, 2011	Elektra	CD	Standard

Totally not understanding why this is being colloquially stupid. Yves (talk) 03:51, 10 October 2010 (UTC)

Me neither. I located the issue, as it works fine with

...
|New Zealand<ref>{{Cite web|url=http://www.warnermusic.co.nz/news/bruno-mars-unveils-album|title=BRUNO MARS UNVEILS EAGERLY AWAITED DEBUT ALBUM “DOO–WOPS & HOOLIGANS”|publisher=[[Warner Music Group|Warner Music]] New Zealand|accessdate=September 14, 2010}}</ref>
|October 11, 2010
|rowspan="3"|Warner Music
|rowspan="2"|Standard
|-
|Australia<ref>{{Cite web|url=http://www.warnermusic.co.nz/news/bruno-mars-unveils-album|title=BRUNO MARS UNVEILS EAGERLY AWAITED DEBUT ALBUM “DOO–WOPS & HOOLIGANS”|publisher=[[Warner Music Group|Warner Music]] New Zealand|accessdate=September 14, 2010}}</ref>
|rowspan="2"|October 15, 2010
|-
|Australia<ref>{{Cite web|url=http://www.warnermusic.co.nz/news/bruno-mars-unveils-album|title=BRUNO MARS UNVEILS EAGERLY AWAITED DEBUT ALBUM “DOO–WOPS & HOOLIGANS”|publisher=[[Warner Music Group|Warner Music]] New Zealand|accessdate=September 14, 2010}}</ref>
|foo
|bar
|}

so the issue is the colspan 2 for the country name. But idk how to fix it. /ƒETCHCOMMS/ 04:01, 10 October 2010 (UTC)

The issue seems to be using colspan to merge cells for the last column you are working with ("Format" for me in the example above). Yves (talk) 04:11, 10 October 2010 (UTC)

Archiving

Have you considered archiving your talk page? It's 112 KB long and has 79 topics. The talk page guidelines suggest archiving after a talk page has become larger than 50 KB, or has more than 10 main sections. Not doing so can make the page difficult to navigate and also make it difficult for users with slow Internet connections to view the page. How to archive is detailed on the archive page. Cheers! — GorillaWarfare ^talk 05:28, 10 October 2010 (UTC)

Yeah, I have lol. I've just never done it before, and didn't really wanna learn how as it's never been an issue for me. Yves (talk) 05:46, 10 October 2010 (UTC)

I can do it for you, if you like; I can make it 'auto-archive' things that are older than 'x' days. If you want that, just reply below, let me know how many days; 30? perhaps. Whatever you like.  Chzz  ►  06:39, 10 October 2010 (UTC)

Haha well sure, if you don't mind! That's very generous of you. :) And maybe not thirty; how about sixty? Question: what if, hypothetically speaking, during a sixty-day period, there are no or only a few discussions? Would it still be archived even if there are only a few sections? Yves (talk) 06:47, 10 October 2010 (UTC)

OK, I've set up this page for auto-archiving, as discussed.

Normally, I prefer to explain how to do stuff, but in the case of archive set-up, it's easier to just do it for you. The voodoo to make it work is here; the bot should come along within about a day and kick things off. Note the archive box at the top which, currently, will say "no archives yet (create)" - don't create anything, just let the bot do its thing.

It's set to 60 days (60d), you might want to change that. Note that a) it won't archive very small threads or things with no sigs in (ie no date) - you can cut those yourself and paste 'em into the archive page if you want.

And to answer your question: it is possible to specify a minimum number of threads, so it won't archive if there are less; I've set that to | minthreadsleft = 4 for now.

So - that's about it; no action required, just let the bot do its thing, and - if I've done it correctly - all should be well. If it goes wrong, of course, give me a shout. Cheers!  Chzz  ►  06:58, 10 October 2010 (UTC)

Thanks, Chzz! Appreciate it! :) Yves (talk) 07:00, 10 October 2010 (UTC)

I'm really sorry, I'd done it wrong; I checked back, wondered why it didn't work, and noticed I missed out a /.

So, please give it another 24 hours to start. Again, sorry.  Chzz  ►  05:52, 12 October 2010 (UTC)

Haha. That's quite alright! :) Yves (talk) 05:54, 12 October 2010 (UTC)

Looking at the bot, I think it should get to you around 20:30 UTC, so, about 10 hours from now; I'll check back of course.  Chzz  ►  11:12, 12 October 2010 (UTC)

Yay, seems to be fine. I'll stop watching, so give me a shout if you ever have problems with it.  Chzz  ►  22:50, 13 October 2010 (UTC)

Beyonce's Fourth Studio album

Don't you think that the time has come to create a page for Beyonce's fourth upcoming studio album? So many artist have one for their albums due 2011 such as Rihanna (Loud), Kelly Rowland (Kelly Rowland), Kanye West (Dark Twisted Mind), Young Jeezy............ Jivesh boodhun (talk) 05:32, 11 October 2010 (UTC)

Thanks. Jivesh boodhun (talk) 05:44, 11 October 2010 (UTC)

Does it have a name yet? Beware of WP:HAMMER.  Chzz  ►  11:15, 12 October 2010 (UTC) (Just a comment, in passing)

Chronology

"In a studio album article, the chain (for most artists) should include only other studio albums, excluding live albums and compilations; these other types can also have their own separate chains. For some artists it may be more appropriate to include all album types in one chain, but care must be taken to maintain the integrity of chains, so that when album "A" points to "B" as the next album, "B" points back to "A" as the last (previous) album."

I really don't care about the chronology, but this change is only gonna cause edit wars and more discussions between other users. Plus, artists like Madonna and Michael Jackson have only one chronology. Xwomanizerx (talk) 21:57, 11 October 2010 (UTC)

But they don't. Michael Jackson's greatest hits / remix albums have their own separate chronology (Number Ones, The Ultimate Collection, The Essential Michael Jackson, etc.) as do Madonna's EPs (Remixed Prayers, The Holiday Collection, etc.). It makes more sense to have different chronologies for different album types. Yves (talk) 22:10, 11 October 2010 (UTC)

California Dreams Tour

Your edits to the California Dreams Tour have been reverted and quite frankly this all seems quite redundant if you think about it. A country is defined as a territory of an independent nation. This list you are referencing refers to a sovereign state. A sovereign state is a grouping of nations or territories that operate under one unified government. In the case of the United Kingdom, it is the countries of England, Wales, Scotland and Northern Ireland that create the United Kingdom. I am not saying that you are wrong but to state that "England is not a country, I know what it is" is pretty absent-minded. If you would like, I do not mind creating a entry on the talk page so that other editors can weigh in on this matter. Itsbydesign (talk) 08:19, 12 October 2010 (UTC)

While it isn't fan-made...

Well , just asking, while it isn't fan-made (Perry's official twitter), it shouldn't be a reliable source? Pedro João [talk] 16:06, 12 October 2010 (UTC)

Honestly, I, think Perry wouldn't lie about that. But agree! Capitol probably will add that information really soon in Katy's official site. Thanks for all, Pedro João [talk] 17:06, 12 October 2010 (UTC)

WP:AIV

Saw that you were unsure about your report of User:AtomicMarcusKitten. In general, only pure vandals should be reported to AIV. This user seems to do quite a bit of good work, but definitely has some interaction issues. Consider making a report at WP:AN/I. Regards, Jujutacular ^talk 15:32, 13 October 2010 (UTC)

FYI, just saw another admin has blocked the user - we'll see if their behavior improves after the block. Jujutacular ^talk 15:33, 13 October 2010 (UTC)

Question

Are we removing other charted songs from the new discographies? ΣПDiПG–STΛЯT (Talk) 00:14, 15 October 2010 (UTC)

Per WT:DISCOGSTYLE consensus, no. Yves (talk) 00:15, 15 October 2010 (UTC)

Fixing Loud Album Refs

I'm not use to the citation templates way of referencing but theres no rule saying you can't do it the way I did. I fixed all the refs that most of the contributors were to lazy to do. ozurbanmusic (talk) 00:22, 15 October 2010 (UTC)

They way I set out the referencing was correct but the only thing I didn't use was the citation templates. Feel free to correct it, but don't be lazy and revert my editing. ozurbanmusic (talk) 01:17, 15 October 2010 (UTC)

I didn't say you reverted it, but if you do correct the refs, don't be lazy and revert my edits. ozurbanmusic (talk) 01:22, 15 October 2010 (UTC)

Stop Editing the T-Pain templete

The songs you are "fixing" are legit singles that have charted or are offcial singles If you're going to "fix" the templete then fix the songs, rather than deleting them.

NO

I'm aware that. Please stop reverting it back so i can fix the promotional singles. There is a page for both songs that aren't redirected pages. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.173.135.8 (talk) 00:52, 15 October 2010 (UTC)

October 2010

You currently appear to be engaged in an edit war according to the reverts you have made on Template:Kesha. Users who edit disruptively or refuse to collaborate with others may be blocked if they continue. In particular the three-revert rule states that making more than three reversions on a single page within a 24-hour period is almost always grounds for an immediate block. If you find yourself in an editing dispute, use the talk page to discuss controversial changes. Work towards wording and content that gains consensus among editors. If unsuccessful then do not edit war even if you believe you are right. Post a request for help at an appropriate noticeboard or seek dispute resolution. In some cases it may be appropriate to request temporary page protection. If edit warring continues, you may be blocked from editing without further notice. SpigotMap 14:57, 15 October 2010 (UTC)

Kesha

Re. Template:Kesha and the possible addition of "We R Who We R"

Please discuss this on the talk page, Template talk:Kesha#We R Who We R.

Thanks,  Chzz  ►  16:26, 15 October 2010 (UTC)

Other charted songs (2)

Okay! But what about Last Friday Night? Pedro João [talk] 21:32, 15 October 2010 (UTC)

Where's the reliable source that [...] T.G.I.F. charted on Hot 100? It does not appears anything on Billboard's Katy Perry archive... Pedro João [talk] 21:47, 15 October 2010 (UTC)

Ok!

Thanks, appreciate your help! Pedro João [talk] 21:54, 15 October 2010 (UTC)

Oh, if you could review me on my review page, it would be nice, thanks Pedro João [talk] 22:00, 15 October 2010 (UTC)

I see you removed by addtion on 'Only Exception' by Paramore article

Hi

You undid my edit right?

Don't worry. Once Wikipedia removes Examiner TV from the blacklist you can't call it unreliable anymore. So if it does comeback again there. Please don't delete or undo my editing in the future on that article when it does. Thank you Blueknightex (talk) 02:46, 16 October 2010 (UTC)

It might. I am still appealing for it to be removed. Anyways, I'll just get back to you on that one when if it does. Blueknightex (talk) 02:54, 16 October 2010 (UTC)

Well I was looking all over the net for a more reliable source that is more appropriate than Examiner TV's but they all lead back to that site. I also had a look at Billboard's website but I didn't manage to find anything other than this: Weekly Chart Notes: 'Glee,' Kenny Chesney, Phil Collins .

It doesn't really look like a reliable source and it makes my edit look like a POV. Blueknightex (talk) 09:56, 18 October 2010 (UTC)

Rocky Horror Glee

With all due respect, all Glee soundtracks for EPs thus far have been released the day the show airs. The episode airs on October 26, and I'm still surprised that iTunes shows October 19 still (as do others I think, and I only found this after making the change). See my edit summary for my initial change reason, which was, and I quote, "Not sure if the source matches, but Glee is pre-empted Oct. 19 for baseball playoff (World Series?). Therefore, EP will be released the day the show airs (Oct. 26)." While I have doubt in my mind now, I can't see them releasing the album a week before the episode. I think the sites just haven't been notified to push it back by a week. CycloneGU (talk) 15:22, 16 October 2010 (UTC)

(Before replying on my talk page, see the notice there and please honour it by replying here. I will be watching this page. CycloneGU (talk) 15:27, 16 October 2010 (UTC))

I understand why you may be sceptical, but Glee soundtracks have been known to be released before the airing of episodes with respective tracks: Volume 3 Showstoppers was released before "Theatricality" and "Funk" aired, Volume 2 before "Sectionals", and Volume 1 before "Wheels". I couldn't tell you for certain why they're releasing it a week early, but October 19, 2010 is what is shown by FOX's official press release, the Glee Cast's official website, the Sony Music store, the iTunes Store, Amazon.com, hmv, Barnes & Noble, Billboard, and many, many other reliable sources. I don't think these could have all gotten the date wrong? Especially the stores where physical release or shipping is guaranteed to happen. Unless you have found a reliable source saying the EP will be released the twenty-sixth...? Yves (talk) 17:28, 16 October 2010 (UTC)

Maybe they're making an exception for Halloween since there are only five days between the episode and Halloween? *shrug* And makes me wonder if Glee will tackle a Christmas episode; nothing has been announced one way or the other on that yet. Again, I made the edit before I found the Oct. 19 in iTunes and couldn't figure out why.

As a side note, the Volume 1, Volume 2, Volume 3 were based on multiple episodes. EPs are usually on one episode. This would be the first early EP release if it's on the 26th. CycloneGU (talk) 03:38, 17 October 2010 (UTC)

Hmmm yeah, but aside from episode accompaniment, there hasn't been much difference in promotion or sales (as can be seen by chart peaks) between the albums and the EPs. And I'm not sure about a potential Christmas episode. SuBo's supposed to guest-star and sing one of the songs from her second album, though. I do not believe they have started production, though. Yves (talk) 03:49, 17 October 2010 (UTC)

I heard about the Susan Boyle bit, too. That will be exciting for the cast, I think. CycloneGU (talk) 04:18, 17 October 2010 (UTC)

Re: idol discography

the reason i made this page is cuz the american idol page has a discography list, so i figured id add a canadian idol discography page. also, i added american idol albums list cuz lots of albums from american idol charted in canada, so i wanted to note those too. also, im not the only 1 who edits that page. i know its not the most frequently edited page on wikipedia, but i thought i would make this page for ppl who were curious bout how good or how bad canadian idol (and some american) were doing post-show. so i dunno why y'ure makin such a big deal bout this.

Oh boy: first IP edit; revert

Well, wait at most one day and I'll see you edit warrig about it, let see if the first IP still being it. BTW it is not the first. Tbhotch^{Talk C.} 01:51, 17 October 2010 (UTC)

Forget it, I see the confusion now. Tbhotch^{Talk C.} 01:55, 17 October 2010 (UTC)

I thought that you were saying to me something like "C'mon is the first IP in edit, you do not need to add PLEASE DO NOT ADD THE FAME MONSTER" (see my entire edit), that's why I said "you'll be reverting many of them tomorrow". Tbhotch^{Talk C.} 02:08, 17 October 2010 (UTC)

Glee: The Music, The Christmas Album

Not sure if you've heard about this one yet, but someone just linked me to the tracklist at Tommy2. No other sources on it at present (except a placeholder Billboard page), but worth keeping an eye out for :D Frickative 15:56, 17 October 2010 (UTC)

Interesting!! I wonder if it's the same as the "Tbd" album on Amazon.com? Neither of the two sites reveal a track listing, so I'm not sure. I certainly will keep an eye on it! Looks interesting, because I thought that album would be Volume 4 and not this one. I don't know if they will sing these on the show, though... there are twelve of them, and they have never done that many in an episode. Maybe they will only include some of them, or this is just an extra Christmas release, like "Last Christmas" was (speaking of which, I wonder if that version is the one on this album). In any case, the SuBo song is probably "O Holy Night", as it's the only one on her album. I wonder why Billboard has the album up when no other retailers or news sources do... Speaking of Tommy2, I'm doubting whether it's a reliable source or not. What do you think? Yves (talk) 16:58, 17 October 2010 (UTC)

I think for Wikipedia purposes it might not meet the requirements, but it does have a proven track record for accurately publishing all previous Glee titles and tracklists before other media sources. I agree it's unlikely all the tracks will make it on to the show, though it would be a shame if none of them do - I love a good Christmas song! I think with past releases it's taken the media a couple of days to a week to catch up once Tommy2 have got the titles up, so hopefully there should be some more info available in the next few days. Wondering why it's taking so long to get Volume 4 out though! Frickative 17:08, 17 October 2010 (UTC)

Not sure, though, because there are different faiths in Glee, and there are no Hanukkah or Kwanzaa songs or anything like that. I'll wait until there are at least a few reliable sources before mentioning it in the season two or list of songs page. Yves (talk) 21:12, 17 October 2010 (UTC)

I'm inclined to believe it, but I've checked the RS noticeboard and Tommy2 got a 'no' in 2007 and a 'borderline, only for uncontentious facts' in 2008. That said, I've done some quick Googling and a cast Christmas album was mentioned as early as May, and re-confirmed by Murphy a few weeks ago (with the mention of a November release date), so perhaps it could be mentioned in the season two article with Billboard as a ref for the title? I don't mind if you'd rather wait, though. This has given me a little push to finally get on with that merchandise article :) Frickative 21:35, 17 October 2010 (UTC)

Nice work! :D Go ahead and add it! As for the tracklist, that would be considered contentious now, right? And remember to just mention November as the release date: who knows, maybe TBD is Volume 4, eh, or maybe they'll be released not far apart from each other? You never know. Yves (talk) 21:42, 17 October 2010 (UTC)

Frickative: you never told me about this on MSN? =O

Certainly exciting! CycloneGU (talk) 02:26, 18 October 2010 (UTC)

Ooooh look: it's on Barnes & Noble and the Japanese Amazon.com (as an import from the US), but it's not on any other Amazon.com country sites. Release date confirmed! :) Maybe it is the same one as the "TBD" one on Amazon.com? Can't know for sure, though. Yves (talk) 21:38, 18 October 2010 (UTC)

A Christmas episode is confirmed! http://ausiellofiles.ew.com/2010/10/20/ask-ausiello-spoilers-glee-desperate-30-rock/ but nothing about songs or the album is. Yves (talk) 01:49, 21 October 2010 (UTC)

Fun?

Isnt this fun? Are you enjoying it as much as i am? - (CK)Lakeshade - talk2me - 20:14, 17 October 2010 (UTC)

omfg shoot me now. or them. not sure which one. i really like your way of adding information and then quickly reverting it haha. ensures well-referenced additions are made as sources come out so time won't be wasted trying to compile it all at a later date, as well as keeps page redirected. :P Yves (talk) 20:18, 17 October 2010 (UTC)

Hahahah, thank you. I do it that way because each time i add a ref, the article slowly gets bigger and i archive every reference so its easier for maintenance. And omfg, can you please read rules before you edit, i knew this article was going to be a b***h but i didnt think it would be this much of a pain, though im extremely surprised no one has changed Cannibal (EP) to a studio album, which im quite happy about. - (CK)Lakeshade - talk2me - 21:09, 17 October 2010 (UTC)

I think it's pretty much standard, especially with the discussion at The Fame Monster lol. Yves (talk) 21:42, 19 October 2010 (UTC)

Why?

Why do you get soo offended when i call you an airhead? It isn't even offensive!! I love them, they always make me laugh and i try and befriend them LOL!!!!!!! (real life obv) god knows why you find it offensive, and blocked me before due to it. jeez.AtomicMarcusKitten (talk) 21:22, 17 October 2010 (UTC)

You clearly are offended...and omg, even you can admit following the "five pillars" is sad, seriously, come on now! From what i know of you, you're not a very nice person, and all what you say comes across as being very snotty...AtomicMarcusKitten (talk) 21:29, 17 October 2010 (UTC)

Go ahead then!AtomicMarcusKitten (talk) 21:37, 17 October 2010 (UTC)

Glee Cast Discog

We ought to consider a change here. If we continue with the page as it now is, that "Singles" section is going to become pages and pages long by the time Season 3 finishes. I'm going to chat with Frickative about this as well, but maybe we ought to break it into seasons, or even half-seasons, and forget the year? Maybe in seasons, we can then identify the episode for each song or something in place of the year (putting episode at the end of the table). This is a unique situation here and having 200 singles in a chart like this is something that you'll rarely see on a discography; even George Strait, the most popular man in country music I think, has 50 #1 singles and won't have as many singles overall as Glee will after this season (if not already; he has 88 singles overall listed here and it's already broken into decades). CycloneGU (talk) 04:04, 18 October 2010 (UTC)

You have a very good point haha. I just finished browsing the 2,185 discography pages, and as you may have seen already, many are broken into albums and singles (and sometimes posthumous) discographies, with Michael Jackson's albums discography even being divided into Michael Jackson albums discography (certifications and sales) and Michael Jackson albums discography (peak chart positions), with Michael Jackson albums discography remaining as a page. Browsing extensive singles discographies, though, we have The Beach Boys (> 100), Dolly Parton (106), David Bowie (108), Rod Stewart (109), Barbra (117), Stevie Wonder (~125), Ray Charles (127), Elton (128), Aretha (131), Céline (137), Elvis (~200), and the most is probably Frank Sinatra (297). None of these are divided in separate pages, though most are divided in decades. The Ol' Blue Eyes discography has divided its singles into the record labels (which we can't do), and then into years. Like you said, I think seasons is the best way to do this. Maybe pages like Glee Cast albums discography, Glee Cast singles discography (season 1), Glee Cast discography (season 2), and then other charted songs can go in the singles discographies of the respective seasons? I think we should wait first, though, until the second season is over, because only then can we accurately judge page growth; they did say the second season was going to have fewer songs, eh? The first thirteen episodes of the first season were slow in singles (4, 3, 2, 1, 4, 3, 4, 3, 5, 6, 6, 3, 4 [+ 1, 5]), but then things really picked up in the back nine (5, 7, 5, 5, 5, 4, 5, 6, 0). So far the second season has been averaging six (5, 6, 7, 6, 0) and it has fluctuated, so we can't really tell if they're increasing or decreasing from this point. The cast of Glee has currently released 119 singles, though only 112 are in the table (with 6 other charted songs in its own table). I think we should wait, though, after two seasons have aired, before actually dividing any pages. Yves (talk) 05:37, 18 October 2010 (UTC)

You know what? After going through all those discography pages, I have to say the Glee Cast one is actually pretty short lol. Yves (talk) 05:42, 18 October 2010 (UTC)

I'm all right with keeping everything as one page. If we were to change anything into multiple pages, I'd say have a Glee Cast Season 1 Discography page and a Glee Cast Season 2 Discography, keep the albums (even the EPs) where they are, and have the singles only on the season page. Otherwise, we leave the entire page alone but break the page at "Good Vibrations" (listed last in the Funk episode), give that now-ended section a Season 1 sub-header, then put a new header in below and continue charting for Season 2.

Again, I'll ask Frickative her opinion as well. I worked with her to get the Season 1 article to FL status, and I know she's GAed a lot of episode articles, so I highly value her opinion as well. I see her on MSN as I type, so I'll poke her right now. =D CycloneGU (talk) 14:12, 18 October 2010 (UTC)

Hahaha alright; I highly value her opinion as well. :P For naming conventions, though, I don't think Glee Cast Season 1 Discography would work, as that would imply the artist name is "Glee Cast Season 1", which it isn't. If you look at Olivia Newton-John's singles templates, they're divided into Olivia Newton-John singles (1971-1990) and Olivia Newton-John singles (1992-present/Other singles), so I think the parenthetical notation is the preferred method, like it was done for the MJ discography. I think I agree with you on the season split; I think I will do that. Yves (talk) 14:20, 18 October 2010 (UTC)

I'll be happy to do it, I already have an idea in mind for how it could look. =) Let's get her opinion first tho.; she's looking through some FL discogs ATM. CycloneGU (talk) 14:23, 18 October 2010 (UTC)

Oh sorry; I already went ahead and did it. Is that what you were thinking? Or something different? Yves (talk) 14:28, 18 October 2010 (UTC)

That's part of it! I also had a couple of other changes I was thinking about. I'm going to use my userspace to play with it a bit and show you what I have in mind. CycloneGU (talk) 14:33, 18 October 2010 (UTC)

(multiple edit conflict later :p) Hey! I think at this point in time I agree with keeping everything in one article (obviously we can reconsider in the future if things keep growing exponentially) and just splitting the singles up by season. Perusing the lengthier featured discographies it seems they're either split up by decade or a specific "era", which in Glee terms given the massive output is probably the equivalent of a season. The way it's been split now looks good to me :) There have been some WP:ACCESS changes lately that means some of the code for the tables needs tweaking - I think the biggest change is having the title column first rather than the year, but that's a minor issue that doesn't affect this discussion. Frickative 14:37, 18 October 2010 (UTC)

Yeah, there are new WP:DISCOGSTYLE guidelines to satisfy the WP:ACCESS part of WP:MoS (for example, I've already converted the discography at Bruno Mars), and I'm going to get around to that soon! :) Yves (talk) 14:44, 18 October 2010 (UTC)

Section Break

See my sandbox as I've started making one suggested change. I've only done two episodes so far on the first season, but if this is a good change I can continue for the entire season. CycloneGU (talk) 14:46, 18 October 2010 (UTC)

*poke* I saw you active at the other discussion I started, I'm waiting for your opinion on this before I add additional edits in my userspace. CycloneGU (talk) 15:47, 18 October 2010 (UTC)

Well just to let you know, the layout's gonna change to be something like what you see at Rihanna discography, with the song title (most important part) coming first. Maybe it can be at the end? I'm not sure if you should have them; we originally had them, but they were removed for some reason, I think because discographies don't normally have that (for example, see Hannah Montana discography), although I don't know. Yves (talk) 18:14, 18 October 2010 (UTC)

Yup, I know that I reverted the addition of episode titles at some point, though that was several months ago, and my rationale was that it's not a standard facet of discographies. It also possibly creates some redundancy with the song lists. That said, however, I can see that it could be useful information, as Glee is in the rather unique position of essentially having a soundtrack to each episode, so it could be pertinent to note which came from where? I don't really mind either way - perhaps it would be okay if the episodes were moved to the far end column, so they could be easily removed if it became a problem in future? Frickative 19:16, 18 October 2010 (UTC)

Frickative has now made that change in my sandbox copy. It now more closely resembles the Rihanna discography you link to. The only difference is that Certifications is absent; basically, the uniqueness of "Glee Cast" might allow us to include the extra column for this one, because each episode is its own "album" in a sense. The exceptions are the third and fourth episodes, which had releases totalling 2 and 1 respectively.

We can also wipe out Sales and replace it with Certifications if there are any, but I don't think there are (except perhaps for "Don't Stop Believin'"). CycloneGU (talk) 00:18, 19 October 2010 (UTC)

Great job! Thanks, Frickative; I was just about to do that, and you saved me a lot of time! :D If you don't mind, I will continue the rest of the episode name additions, and yes, I believe the sales column should be replaced with certifications: there are a couple! Yves (talk) 00:23, 19 October 2010 (UTC)

I'm thinking of removing the album column from the second season singles table, because they are all non-album singles. What do you think? Or would you like that information to remain there for people to know they aren't from any album? Yves (talk) 00:38, 19 October 2010 (UTC)

Leave the Albums section in. We have to have an album tracklist sooner or later.

I wonder if we can also add the Christmas album to the albums listings BTW, without a link since we only have one supposedly unreliable source (which has proven for this purpose quite reliable, mind) so far? CycloneGU (talk) 01:59, 19 October 2010 (UTC)

Already added lol. (B&N) Yves (talk) 02:01, 19 October 2010 (UTC)

I see that now. =)

Should we put the new Singles layout into the article now? I'll be happy to transpose it in, just gotta be sure we don't erase something from the current article version in error in the transfer. Otherwise, it can stay in my Sandbox for further tweaks. CycloneGU (talk) 03:32, 19 October 2010 (UTC)

I think it's ready to transfer now. :) I just left out the years from the season 2 songs because the heading is already 2010–present, but do you think we should add them for consistency? Yves (talk) 04:05, 19 October 2010 (UTC)

I completely missed that column. Do we really need that in there? CycloneGU (talk) 04:19, 19 October 2010 (UTC)

Well we definitely will when episodes air in the new year, so we might as well, right? And just to keep it consistent within both tables. Yves (talk) 04:23, 19 October 2010 (UTC)

I meant in the first table as well. We're branching it into seasons, and therefore it will take place from 2009-2010 with releases assumed somewhat chronologically. Therefore, why are we including that column? I think this is a rare situation where we can avoid using that column because with 86 singles in a two year span it's kinda redundant. CycloneGU (talk) 04:25, 19 October 2010 (UTC)

Well to show which singles were released in each year, right? Yves (talk) 04:31, 19 October 2010 (UTC)

Yes, I know that. But again, does it matter? We know it was released during Season 1, a period which (with exception to the pilot in May) took place in a span of less than a full year. Season 1 is already by itself now, and Season 2 as well. We've just made the year redundant. Either that or we mash it back together and keep the year column in. Personally, I prefer the split and the year omitted.

Also, from DISCOGSTYLE, the end of the policy has the rule, "Ignore all rules". While I'm not exactly doing that, it states "...if there is a reasonable justification for deviating from the above guidelines to most accurately or appropriately document an artist's [e.g. cast's] body of work, then ignore all the rules and go with what's best for the article." This is what I think is best for the article, get the year column outta there. It's not necessary.

I'm curious about Frickative's thoughts on the matter, hopefully she will chip in after getting some sleep. =) CycloneGU (talk) 04:52, 19 October 2010 (UTC)

Haha omg don't even talk to me about sleep. Sounds good, though; as long as we discussed it, and in case it comes up during peer review or FL nom (which i hope to see this page go to!). =) Yves (talk) 04:55, 19 October 2010 (UTC)

Heehee, I helped get one page there, I'd love to see another get there (though in this case you have a big hand in getting it there!). The challenge will become updating it during all of the nominating with new figures and such, and while the mid-season break gives a chance for just reviewing and fixing stuff, the second half of the season (and season 3) will start introducing possible changes and could throw the page out of FL. Hopefully we can get it there and keep it there! =D CycloneGU (talk) 05:29, 19 October 2010 (UTC)

Well that shouldn't be hard, right? New figures are easily accessible on Billboard and all second season peaks are updated with reliable references, with the exception of two ARIA peaks (we need to wait until the Pandora Archive has those). Yves (talk) 05:33, 19 October 2010 (UTC)

Well, I see you omitted year now. =) After Frickative comments on the page in the morning or whenever, we'll look into transferring it back to the Glee page in updated form. Wanna give her a chance to comment first. =) CycloneGU (talk) 05:41, 19 October 2010 (UTC)

Sounds good! Imma go to bed now or I will miss orgo chem in the morning. Good night + ttyl! :) Yves (talk) 05:43, 19 October 2010 (UTC)

One more thing I'm noticing. I didn't copy "Other Singles" and am debating how to treat that one. Since it's a thing that all non-single songs will go into without a split, that one would need the year. Either that or we can split those as well into each section with the same sub-header each time, but that might be too much.

I may leave it for your judgment, but I'll think about it for a bit. I'm back on the job searching prowl today and won't be here all day, but will be for a bit. CycloneGU (talk) 13:35, 19 October 2010 (UTC)

Gooood morning/afternoon/evening... whenever :p Re: other charted songs... my current thinking iiiiis to leave it as one section (it's relatively small, if there were dozens of songs there it would probably be a different matter), and hm, I think it's okay to have dates there. It might be a slight inconsistency with the season singles tables, but given the sheer multitude of singles there, repeating the same date up to 30 times seems redundant and better covered through the date range in the section header. With the other songs, as there are only a handful of entries, redundancy isn't so much of an issue. I hope that makes sense. The edited singles tables in the sandbox now look great to me, happy to see them transferred into the mainspace :) Frickative 15:31, 19 October 2010 (UTC)

Tables imported, the other songs chart is fixed up a bit, Frickative is doing a little more on it but I put episodes in there as well for that consistency and put in the scope bits (which I'm learning about just today while editing). Off to job searching. We need a new source for Jessie's Girl certifications, apparently the reference name wasn't valid. CycloneGU (talk) 17:23, 19 October 2010 (UTC)

Yeah, I fixed that; sorry, my fault. It's all good now; looks great! Good luck with the hunt! :) Yves (talk) 17:25, 19 October 2010 (UTC)

So I've added a bit of background information about the performers and the music of Glee in the lead; seems to be what they are looking for in FLs (examples here and here). I've also added non-breaking spaces and added the Glee task force banner to the task force; thought it was already added, but I guess not (unsure about whether to rate top or high, though... maybe high?). Anything else you guys think needs fixing or work on? Some wording, maybe? I'll look at some FLs tomorrow(today) and see if there's anything specific with the refs that might need some minor tweaking (for example with work vs. publisher). Yves (talk) 04:54, 20 October 2010 (UTC)

Sam Tsui

Hey! I recently made a few changes to the Sam Tsui page which were undone, and would just like to explain a few of them before attempting to re-edit them. And just as a disclaimer, I'm not sure how this is supposed to be handled, but I actually AM Sam Tsui and was simply intending to update the article and also just make it more coherent and easy to understand. For example, saying "using multiple pitch variations...ranging from tenor to baritone" is actually somewhat nonsensical as relates to the MJ Medley, which is (as KurtHugoSchneider's Youtube channel states) is an SATB arrangement; namely the top part is considered soprano, and the bottom bass. Removing the "labels" section of the information box was simply because while there were digital releases through Sh-k-Boom and Mudhut, "Sam Tsui" is not actually signed to these labels, so that's incorrect. Saying "former" member of the Duke's Men of Yale IS in fact verified on their website by virtue of his no longer being on the roster of active singers. Adding other popular videos such as the Love the Way You Lie Mashup or Lady Gaga Medley are again simply derived directly from the Youtube channel, which is already sourced several times throughout the article. I certainly wished to remove "American Baritones" from the list of categories because this is simply not true - baritone is a classification of a kind of male voice, and one really shouldn't be considered both a tenor and baritone, even if he sings in the ranges of both. Similarly, tenor as a category generally includes classical male singers, which I (Tsui) am not. Changing Chinese to half-Chinese, again, is just a matter of fact. And as the source myself, I guess I'm confused as to how i can make this simple factual change. In general, I guess I'm just asking how I can get some of these changes through without always having the article be reverted. Many thanks, Sam. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Samtsui.music (talk • contribs) 08:30, 18 October 2010 (UTC)

Thanks for your hasty response - I don't intend to be difficult, but a few things. One: The arrangement IS in fact SATB, as it clearly states on the video for the page itself - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R12QVtuB0_Q, "To download the sheet music PDF (in SATB) for this song:" The pdf itself, which is available there, is written in SATB - and again, an arrangement is considered SATB if it is written as such, regardless of what kind of voice is singing it. A tenor is entirely capable of singing such an arrangment, with it still being considered SATB. So I would love to be able to change this, as the source itself defines the arrangement as SATB. Secondly, in that very Duke's Men website you linked to, "Sam Tsui" is NOT on the roster of active singers, but is listed as "class of '11", as an alumnus. Third, I must emphasize that it's misleading to list Mudhut and Sh-ka-Boom under "labels", as there is in fact no verifiable source that Tsui is signed to these labels, but merely engaged in Digital Releases. In fact, the Youtube channel lists Tsui as "unsigned" which I believe is amore verifiable source. Thanks! —Preceding unsigned comment added by Samtsui.music (talk • contribs) 17:33, 18 October 2010 (UTC)

Okay, first of all "using multiple pitch variations" make little to no sense from an a cappella singing/musical standpoint. The article quoted is not only uncited (and unsourced, as neither myself or Kurt were interviewed), but the article itself contains a number of sentences written in English with incredibly poor grammar, so to quote this phrase specifically (which is non-idiomatic English) seems inappropriate. Secondly, a male is absolutely capable of singing an SATB arrangement - check out Chanticleer, or any number of groups containing male sopranos or altos. If a piece is arranged SATB, then even if a male is singing it, it remains an SATB arrangement. "Ranging from baritone to tenor" certainly does not make sense, as there is not even a baritone part in the arrangement, and the lowest part is in fact bass. Again, I do not mean to be difficult, but this is a minor edit that would make this piece of information more clear. I guess as regards the Duke's Men, will I at least be able to change "member" to "former member" as of 2011? I guess the difficulty I'm finding is that I'll of course always be listed as a "Duke's Man class of 2011", but I think it would be misleading to call me a member of the Duke's men, say, years after i'm no longer attending Yale or singing with them. Again, these are not huge deals, but would be nice to make clearer Samtsui.music (talk) 17:58, 19 October 2010 (UTC)

Again, I'm not suggesting that Tsui IS either a soprano or alto - but the the verifiable truth is that he performs an SATB arrangement, which is both true and verifiable from the pdf arrangement itself. Part of what makes the video unique is the fact that he DOES in fact perform the parts which would usually be sung be women and other voice parts - thus, he is a tenor PERFORMING an entire SATB ARRANGEMENT. Again, "tenor to baritone" really does not make sense. Samtsui.music (talk) 20:10, 20 October 2010 (UTC)

Jessica Mauboy discography

Its already been set for a November 5 release. Sony have been telling fans on her facebook, mypsace, Twitter, in the media, they've done adds for it on iTunes and yesterday they released a snippet of all songs off the album. I don't think it'll be delayed. ozurbanmusic (talk) 22:21, 20 October 2010 (UTC)

Amazon release dates

You have to be very careful with iTunes and Amazon. In the UK singles are released on Sunday or Monday to make the most of the chart week which runs from Sunday to Sunday. (its different to the US and Australia). However for pre-releases Amazon nearly always had multiple dates. Below the track list it usually has a section which says release date and genre etc. If you scroll to the top of the page there's a blue box in the left-hand corner that says "This album/single will be available on October 24, 2010". -- Lil_℧niquℇ №1 | talk2me 20:12, 21 October 2010 (UTC)

Why does it say the release date and the original release date are the twenty-first? :S Yves (talk) 20:18, 21 October 2010 (UTC)

Amazon always does that because 21 October will be the date it goes active in Ireland as Irish singles are released on Fridays to coincide with their chart week. Its very confusing but I can assure you that if you tried to buy the single on the 21 you wouldn't be able to because its not going to active till October 24. -- Lil_℧niquℇ №1 | talk2me 23:57, 21 October 2010 (UTC)

Apology

I thought I had added references to specific episodes. I generally do so, but in this case maybe I skipped a step. Apologies, and thanks for the kind note. 72.70.255.210 (talk) 22:04, 21 October 2010 (UTC)

Oh, I have a username, and usually forget to log in. And I have had numerous IP addresses too. I cannot keep track of them all. If I do log in, it is as Qermaq, and I have extensive experience in a similar MediaWiki environment elsewhere but that was years ago. I try to adhere to standards, but you are probably aware that a dabbler is at a disadvantage because knowing every standard requires being up to date in the loop. I just try to be fair, correct, and use my best judgment and normally that's enough! Good talking to you. 72.70.255.210 (talk) 22:10, 21 October 2010 (UTC)

Oh hey, re: the change you mentioned - the sources are already in the article. Read later in the paragraph, what I changed was already sourced but was not completely changed. I was just gnoming - I don't see how I could have made it more clear, advice is always welcome. 72.70.255.210 (talk) 22:14, 21 October 2010 (UTC)

Featured Artist?

I remember reading somewhere once that it's "Guest singles" - was this a change in the last couple of years as well?

And sorry, that was my IP there...I never notice when it logs me out. -.- CycloneGU (talk) 01:14, 22 October 2010 (UTC)

Oh, it was you! haha i didn't realize. hmmmmm i've actually never seen it like that; i was just going by other FLs, and Swift is the featured artist on those singles. Yves (talk) 01:28, 22 October 2010 (UTC)

Yes, I fully agree she's featured artist; I actually heard the one song today! I found in the history the person who changed it back yesterday and left a note on the talk page. CycloneGU (talk) 01:30, 22 October 2010 (UTC)

Oh, okay. Yeah, I actually changed it to be in a separate table myself a couple of months ago, but was shot down, and when I brought the discussion to the talk page, the idea wasn't welcomed. Yves (talk) 01:35, 22 October 2010 (UTC)

Wait a second - they shot down the correct treatment? I would argue vehemently that "Half of My Heart" is a John Mayer single, not a Taylor Swift single. The treatment being applied is now correct and anyone who wants to give a different opinion can't really refute that. Separate tables are correct. CycloneGU (talk) 01:37, 22 October 2010 (UTC)

I'm glad you agree. I think someone used the argument that it passed FL without that being raised as a concern, but that doesn't mean the article is perfect. Actually, if you ask me, the article should be demoted from FL; it is not representative of Wikipedia's best work and is unsourced in some areas (which FLs never should be). Yves (talk) 01:39, 22 October 2010 (UTC)

Maybe we can work on that and simply remove unsourced material that we can't find a source for? Maybe I'll study this one for a while; Glee is pretty drab this week with no new episode. I'm gone allday 2morrow, tho.

I've also revived the discussion on the talk page. CycloneGU (talk) 01:43, 22 October 2010 (UTC)

I see that! Well, first of all none of the peaks for featured singles are sourced. Also, the peak for "Crazier" in the UK is not referenced, no ref for Fearless peak in Germany, no ref for Taylor Swift peak in the UK, no ref for "Breathless" CAN peak (it is actually incorrect, according to the allmusic source), and "Jump Then Fall" and "Crazier" Australian peaks are not referenced. Pretty bad for an FL. I'm disappointed. Yves (talk) 01:59, 22 October 2010 (UTC)

After I do my Facebook gaming, I'll take a look at some of these if I can figure out good places to find them. AllMusic I tend to use for some rating information, in fact, so if the one is wrong I can change it. But I'd rather have an actual chart source even so. CycloneGU (talk) 03:04, 22 October 2010 (UTC)

Looks like you found some sources (and the gaming is going strange, I'm chasing ghosts in Frontierville now and have to harvest Pumpkins), and the person I left a note for does want to try to help. Go ahead and watch my talkpage, I've said to carry on the discussion there and it lets you also keep tabs since I'm gone during the day 2morrow. If you want to make another arrangement (such as your talk page), I'll let you get in touch with him under my last post there, but I don't mind hosting the discussion and helping a bit myself. =) CycloneGU (talk) 03:49, 22 October 2010 (UTC)

User:Alan H Barnett

The above account has been reported to vandalism notice board and should be indeff blocked shortly. Active Banana (^bananaphone 18:04, 22 October 2010 (UTC)

Thank You

Thank you for correcting me about the use of the "m" (minor edit) button. I guess I lent too much elasticity to the term...I have corrected my mistake. Thank you Yves! :-) (mango 21:05, 22 October 2010 (UTC))

Personal Attack?

I did not attack the person, just said don't be dumb. There is a difference. Don't overreact, and also don't post beginner templates on my wall Superbowlbound (talk) 21:51, 22 October 2010 (UTC)

Alright, i respectfully disagree, but whatever. Anyways, the album booklet does not have times, but its on the CD. Do I use the same template? Booklet has lyrics and the "hidden messages". Also all those notes that I am not going to add in because its way too tedious. Superbowlbound (talk) 21:59, 22 October 2010 (UTC)

Thank you. Also the times are different (shorter than songs actually are. ie Mine (song) is listed at 3:50. different from what is listed and time one Itunes, which are already one second off. Is the album considered correct or the times on the disc?) Superbowlbound (talk) 22:03, 22 October 2010 (UTC).

i mean the times listed on the disc/album are different than their length in iTunes OR their length in the Article. As in the CD says 3:50 for Mine; article says 3:51, and (my) iTunes says 3:52. which one is considered accurate? Superbowlbound (talk) 22:09, 22 October 2010 (UTC)

Joe McElderry

I am curious as to how Digitalspy is an unreliable source when it is already being used as a source for the page? Furthermore, I know that these tracks are in fact covers because I have the CD. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 129.100.153.30 (talk) 22:11, 22 October 2010 (UTC)

Speak Now

I just have to ask, how is an External Link that posts the lyrics to an album inappropriate? Besides the link you posted states "There is nothing wrong with adding one or more useful content-relevant links to an article..." Besides, MetroLyrics doesn't fall in the lines of a "link to personal web sites, links to web sites with which you are affiliated, and links that attract visitors to a web site or promote a product". Ga Be 19 16:38, 23 October 2010 (UTC)

I guess I can see the reasoning on WP:ALBUMSEL, but I don't on WP:ELNO. Ga Be 19 17:30, 23 October 2010 (UTC)

Billboard problems

Sorry. Physical magazine reference is the only way to go for now. The position you are looking at didn't get stored in the database correctly, and that means it isn't showing up properly. When this link returns data, that means it has been entered into the database properly and you should be able to use normal references. Until then, there's no magic trick I can offer.—Kww(talk) 23:28, 23 October 2010 (UTC)

Ever Ever After

I'll try to find the sources. Silvergoat (talk∙contrib) 06:58, 25 October 2010 (UTC)

Okay, but I don't know if sources will have much impact. Besides the significant coverage part, of course, it still fails the three criteria in WP:NSONGS, where it did not win or get nominated for any awards (unlike "Happy Working Song", "That's How You Know" ft. Marlon Saunders, and "So Close"), did not get notably covered by notable artists, and did not chart (as far as I'm aware). Yves (talk) 07:09, 25 October 2010 (UTC)

Seemed like the song did not chart in Billboard's charts. Are charts from other places, like in Asia counted? Silvergoat (talk∙contrib) 08:50, 16 November 2010 (UTC)

Yes, as long as it's one of the WP:GOODCHARTS. :) Yves (talk) 08:54, 16 November 2010 (UTC)

RE:Whip My Hair

Some people are idiots. How can a lead be PR-red when it needs to cover all aspects of an article? And deleting positive reception because it is "redundant?" These people must not look at GA's much. Candyo32 12:30, 25 October 2010 (UTC)

Could you contribute to the discussion here? Thanks in advance. Candyo32 20:15, 25 October 2010 (UTC)

DYK for Glee: The Music, The Rocky Horror Glee Show

— Rlevse • Talk • 00:03, 26 October 2010 (UTC)

October 2010

What the hell are you talking about plagiarizing?!?! Theuhohreo (talk) 14:42, 26 October 2010 (UTC)

I don't have to use my own words because I referenced the source it was from! and even so, all you need to do is put "quotation marks" around it and it's done! Don't gotta make it a big stupid ass thing... Theuhohreo (talk) 15:40, 26 October 2010 (UTC)

Glee Christmas Album

iTunes has a tracklist. I'm putting the rough start to the article together and uploading the cover art, also from iTunes, and thus removing the redirect at the same time. Please follow up behind me as you might have a better idea what else can be put there in the meantime. My concern: the album name on iTunes has a hyphen in it, while our page has none - if the official name has a hyphen, we'll have to move the article and fix the title properly in the article, too.

Give me a few minutes and it'll be ready for you to work on. It's ready for you and Frickative to add stuff to, the shell (without references, mind) is now up. =) CycloneGU (talk) 03:57, 27 October 2010 (UTC)

Perfect! I was actually gonna start working on it today, and you're one step ahead of me! Props! :) Yves (talk) 04:09, 27 October 2010 (UTC)

Well, it's kinda funny as I was checking out of curiosity whether any new songs popped out given the Halloween episode is tonite (no more did, predictably). I think they just put the album in there today for pre-order. I thought I'd save you and Frickative the basic work, and I've updated her as well. CycloneGU (talk) 04:10, 27 October 2010 (UTC)

Haha well okay. I'm working on it right now. By the way, do you think you could upload a slightly larger image? The rules are that it can't be more than 300 × 300, but this one is small in comparison to the infobox and just looks weird. Thanks in advance! Also, do you know what I realized a couple of weeks ago? Even if we have a tracklist, and know Glee always does covers of songs, it's actually WP:OR to link the songs names, eh? Like even the song "You're a Mean One, Mr. Grinch": there is probably an infinitesimal chance it isn't the one from the Dr. Seuss film adaptation, but if the sources don't say it, we can't assume it; there is a chance it could be a completely different song with the same title. Until verifiable confirmation is to be found, I think what we (myself included) have been doing with linking songs is not really right... What do you think? Yves (talk) 04:21, 27 October 2010 (UTC)

All I did there was put square brackets around the title. I presumed it would link correctly, but there were two redlinks. Many songs are unmistakable, but there are a select few I'm not familiar with. I don't know what other song refers to Mr. Grinch, it's either the Dr. Seuss one or the one from the movie where Faith Hill was involved with "Where Are You Christmas". My suspicion is it's based on the movie version. What else COULD it be?

On the other hand, I'm sure everyone agrees songs like "O Holy Night" and "Angels We Have Heard On High" obviously have no issues as they are traditional, but any others that come to mind that you're not sure about? My uncertainty is with just the first two, the rest I've heard many times by many artists (again with exception to the Grinch one, which I've only heard in the movie and related soundtrack). On the other hand, track 1 Wikilinked when I put it in, while track 2 didn't. CycloneGU (talk) 06:19, 27 October 2010 (UTC)

Image now updated to 300x300; original copy was iTunes, new one came from Amazon which is already that exact size. CycloneGU (talk) 06:24, 27 October 2010 (UTC)

Thanks! "Deck the Rooftop" is not a Christmas carol: I believe it may be a mashup of "Deck the Halls" and "Up on the Rooftop"? As for your question, yes, I do believe everyone would agree a song like "Angels We Have Heard on High" is the traditional one, but one cannot be sure. Per WP:OR and WP:V, it has to be published in a reliable source to be eligible for inclusion on Wikipedia. For example, say one were to look at this page from an area that doesn't celebrate Christmas, and is thus unfamiliar with Christmas music: would someone from Saudi Arabia be able to tell you there is one standard carol called "Angels We Have Heard on High"? Not really, and until we get a reliable source, I think it would still be considered WP:OR to wikilink it, no matter how absurd that sounds. I know; I am really wanting to link it, too, but per Wikipedia policies, I do not think that is what we should be doing. Yves (talk) 06:48, 27 October 2010 (UTC)

I beg to differ in opinion on "Angels We Have Heard On High" because I have never, in my 30 years on this Earth, heard any other song by that title. If you want to look up Hanukkah carols, if such a page exists, or other holidays' carols, go ahead. If nothing with that title appears there, then there is nothing else it COULD be. If we can't Wikilink "Angels", then we really ought to remove every single Wikilink from that article until the album's release; this includes "O Holy Night" and "Jingle Bells" as well. All three are literally traditional songs and cannot be anything else, so I still beg to differ.

In any case, I'll do a search for information relating to the Christmas album. CycloneGU (talk) 14:27, 27 October 2010 (UTC)

Alright, found this reference to "12 classsic Christmas songs" (though you're right, the one title seems suspect), in addition to this reference to how "the separation of church and state doesn't seem to apply to McKinley High"; in other news, did you see this from the LA Times? They muse about whether Lea sang O Holy Night before or after this was taken. CycloneGU (talk) 14:35, 27 October 2010 (UTC)

Hahaha yeah I saw that. I know, and I agree with you: I have never heard of another song called "Angels We Have Heard on High", but the thing is, you don't know what they're going to do. It could be a song they wrote, with the same title! Or it could be a different song, with a change in title. I still think it is WP:OR, possibly with elements of WP:SYNTH, to link the songs to the pages. The few songs I linked were because the press release and Billboard mentioned the songs were Christmas classics. Yves (talk) 22:25, 27 October 2010 (UTC)

When one source states "12 Christmas classics", I'd think that gives us leeway to presume the songs are old standbys and not unique. CycloneGU (talk) 22:54, 27 October 2010 (UTC)

Ooooh: where does it say that! Yves (talk) 22:58, 27 October 2010 (UTC)

Look four messages up in this string. =) CycloneGU (talk) 23:04, 27 October 2010 (UTC)

Haha, found it in the EW reference, anyway (don't know if RTTNews is a reliable source; site looks amateur, and articles don't seem of very good quality). But I'm confused: how is "Deck the Rooftop" a Christmas classic? Or "The Most Wonderful Day of the Year"; the song is "The Most Wonderful Time of the Year"? It would be WP:OR then to assume, if at all, it's the same song with a change in lyrics, eh? Yves (talk) 23:14, 27 October 2010 (UTC)

I agree with your last statement, those two titles stand out to me as well. CycloneGU (talk) 23:19, 27 October 2010 (UTC)

Section Break

Okay. I will not link them for the time being. Yves (talk) 23:22, 27 October 2010 (UTC)

I do think linking 6-12 would be legit. though. Last Christmas originates from the group Wham!. The rest I think are traditional, as is track 4 which is already confirmed who the original artist is. I don't know 1, but it looks like you have a source for it. That leaves 2, 3, and 5 I wouldn't link, if any. CycloneGU (talk) 23:25, 27 October 2010 (UTC)

I don't know what "O Holy Night" sounds like. :S Maybe, I do, but the name's not coming straight to me. "Merry Christmas, Darling" is a song by The Carpenters that reached number one on the Billboard Christmas Singles chart. And you know what? I think I'm going leave out writing credits for now: a lot of carols were translated/written/composed by bishops and priests and things, and it is yet unknown what the album will official credit in terms of composers. And I don't want to do any WP:OR. For example, the words of "Angels We Have Heard on High" were translated from French by James Chadwick, but the melody is from the hymn "Gloria" but arranged by Edward Shippen Barnes. Yves (talk) 23:40, 27 October 2010 (UTC)

I agree with leaving writers out. There is no doubt about the song itself, but the writers for traditional carols even on Allmusic are just labelled "Traditional" with no composers, so those ones in particular will have no issues. Everyone does their own melody; you should hear SHeDaisy's "Deck The Halls". CycloneGU (talk) 02:49, 28 October 2010 (UTC)

As for O Holy Night..."O holy night, the stars are brightly shining...it is the night of our dear Saviour's birth..." *looks to see how many mirrors he's shattered* CycloneGU (talk) 02:54, 28 October 2010 (UTC)

Finn

Per WP:UNDUE I think only Cory should be in the infobox, and the other 2 should be in casting. CTJF83 chat 06:13, 27 October 2010 (UTC)

I agree with this, and for the same reason :) There is precedent for doing it that way - eg. Jack Harkness, a GA which lists only the primary performer in the ibox, and mentions a single-episode child actor in the body of the article. Frickative 15:07, 27 October 2010 (UTC)

Hmmmm I don't know, though: look at FAs like Jabba the Hutt and Jason Voorhees, they list all portrayers, though FA Bernard Quatermass has just "Various", but that may be due to the large number. I feel like just putting Monteith would be POV because people would think there is only one portrayer for this fictional character... maybe we could have something like a (see casting) below it? With only one portrayer in the infobox, it seems redundant to have "Portrayed by Cory Monteith" as well as "Cory Monteith as Finn Hudson" as the caption. But if we had the note below the main actor, I would be okay with that. Yves (talk) 22:23, 27 October 2010 (UTC)

The 2 examples you gave are different, in they are in different movies and completely portrayed by different people. Cory is the main portrayer, with just very minor, few minutes portrayals by different kids. If Cory was all of a sudden ousted, and someone came in brand new portraying Finn in all subsequent episodes as an adult, then it would be reasonable to list Cory and the new person. CTJF83 chat 22:28, 27 October 2010 (UTC)

Okay. I still think it's misleading to only have his name there without at least a note or something. Would you prefer the idea of a quick mention in the lead paragraph? Yves (talk) 22:38, 27 October 2010 (UTC)

Ummm....I mean we don't wanna give UNDUE wait to the two kids portraying him, cause obviously Cory is the main portrayer...so I don't have an answer really about the lead.... CTJF83 chat 22:41, 27 October 2010 (UTC)

More Non-Christmas-Related Glee Stories

Jessalyn divorces and, somewhat more exciting, might there be a Taylor Swift episode of Glee? CycloneGU (talk) 14:52, 27 October 2010 (UTC)

Haha thanks for the links. Poor Jessalyn; I love her! A Taylor Swift episode would be bad, though. Yves (talk) 23:00, 27 October 2010 (UTC)

This Edit

I've restored WIlted Youth's edit to Glee: The Music, The Christmas Album because your Wikilinks go to places that redirect to other pages. He simply fixed the Wikilinks themselves to direct correctly; the titles remained unchanged in the prose. CycloneGU (talk) 22:10, 28 October 2010 (UTC)

I am aware. But it doesn't. They go right to the article. They do not need to be "fixed" because they are not "broken". WP:NOTBROKEN applies, and it is extremely unlikely the redirects will ever change to point to another article. What else could "O Christmas Tree" or "God Rest Ye Merry Gentlemen" direct to? It's also a waste of coding and article space. Yves (talk) 22:14, 28 October 2010 (UTC)

I disagree. God Rest Ye Merry Gentlemen redirects to God rest you merry, gentlemen; we should be linking to the direct article, not linking to redirects. Same thing with O Christmas Tree redirecting to O Tannenbaum. I steadfastly insist we use the standard article in the Wikilink, but I will agree that the title on the album should not be changed as they don't use that title. WIlted Youth had the correct idea, and I didn't change it when I saw it before you did because I recognized it was correct. I know what you are referencing says it's not necessary and could even be detrimental; however, I think in cases like this one it should be observed. What happens if the redirect page gets tampered with and unnoticed? The article exists, but we aren't linking to it because of the redirect missing.

Again, this is just my opinion. CycloneGU (talk) 22:39, 28 October 2010 (UTC)

FWIW, I think we should follow WP:R2D - unnecessary invisible coding makes editing harder for Wiki newbies, and I don't think possible future vandalism is a compelling reason to ignore an established guideline. But I'm really only chipping in because the first discussion I ever had with Yves was about this exact guideline, so seeing it pop up made me smile :) Frickative 22:59, 28 October 2010 (UTC)

Cannibal

Can you revert the last edit on Cannibal. Im getting pissed off. Thanks - (CK)Lakeshade - talk2me - 19:13, 30 October 2010 (UTC)

Done. :) Yves (talk) 19:16, 30 October 2010 (UTC)

Thank you :) - (CK)Lakeshade - talk2me - 19:17, 30 October 2010 (UTC)

Anytime! :) Yves (talk) 19:17, 30 October 2010 (UTC)

Soooooo, i may be away from October 31st - November 3rd. Could you watch; Tik Tok (song), Blah Blah Blah (song), Your Love Is My Drug, Take It Off (song), We R Who We R, Cannibal (EP), Animal (Kesha album) and Kesha discography. Just watch for vandalism and stupid edits basically. The only three that may give you trouble is Cannibal, Animal and We R Who We R, i can gauruntee people are going to add Sleazy and another cover and try to change the tracklisting on Animal and Cannibal, just revert it if they do basically. Would be great if you can do this, lemme know if you cannot :) - (CK)Lakeshade - talk2me - 03:47, 31 October 2010 (UTC)

Sure! They're all on my watchlist, anyway. I cannot guarantee all unconstructive edits will be taken care of, because I have an exam coming up and an assignment due soon, but I will do my best. :) Yves (talk) 03:59, 31 October 2010 (UTC)

No worries, thank you :) im sure you'll do a fine job. - (CK)Lakeshade - talk2me - 04:10, 31 October 2010 (UTC)

Roman's Revenge

Please keep an eye on that being removed, would you? Afraid I can't stop anymore users taking it out as I've hit 3RR. Thanks. –Chase (talk / contribs) 03:55, 31 October 2010 (UTC)

Will do; I'm keeping a close watch on it. Yves (talk) 03:58, 31 October 2010 (UTC)

Help?..

Hi, could you help me out? I was just wondering how to upload a picture i took myself with out it getting a copyright tagg? --L.Geee 11:16, 31 October 2010 (UTC)

The Black Eyed Peas

You're very welcome. Yes, I've noticed it. I'm trying to figure out ways of fixing their articles up. One step at a time I guess. ΣПDiПG–STΛЯT (Talk) 23:06, 31 October 2010 (UTC)

Yeah, that's be great. Some of the articles are such a mess. I was thinking of maybe putting a Wikiproject together, but I have no idea if they already have or what. I looked, but yeah. Might be easier, and I'd be great to get other people involved. Something like, Wikipedia:WikiProject Britney Spears would probably come in great use. ΣПDiПG–STΛЯT (Talk) 23:12, 31 October 2010 (UTC)

Yeah, I get what you're saying. It was just an idea. I'm gonna go check around their pages and see what all needs to be done. ΣПDiПG–STΛЯT (Talk) 23:25, 31 October 2010 (UTC)

Okay, so I made a page of additions that I think need to be added. Feel free to add anything to it. ΣПDiПG–STΛЯT (Talk) 00:01, 1 November 2010 (UTC)

Nicki Minaj's Birthplace

Nicki Minaj was Born in Trinidad and Tobago in St. James as she mentioned at her concert in Trinidad if you dont believe me check youtube where she says she is from St. James and the daily newspapers says she was from St, James. Nicki Minaj could not have been BORN in Queens, New York and then at the age of five she MOVED there,that makes no sense she was in Trinidad for her early childhood until the age of five, billboard.com also says that she was born there. @Yvesnimmo

• Billboard.com says she was born in Trinidad. @Yvesnimmo

744cody (talk) 02:56, 2 November 2010 (UTC)

MTX Tatra V8

I added a link to the video - dont you belive your own eyes? That video got 3.4 million views within a week - thats the most publicity MTX cars will ever have! —Preceding unsigned comment added by HerrDalton (talk • contribs) 05:22, 2 November 2010 (UTC) http://www.tatraworld.nl/2010/10/19/kanye-west-in-runaway-prelude-with-mtx-tatra-v8/ http://www.askmen.com/cars/car/tatra-mtx-v8.html http://www.mtv.com/photos/kanye-wests-highbrow-runaway-references/1650768/5360978/photo.jhtml http://www.carplacekc.com/tag/tatra-mtx-v8/ http://www.vh1.com/news/articles/1650692/20101023/index.jhtml Aint that enough? —Preceding unsigned comment added by HerrDalton (talk • contribs) 05:46, 2 November 2010 (UTC)

That - Jalopnik should be relialble: http://jalopnik.com/5672557/what-is-kanye-west-driving-in-his-new-runaway-video And the point is that MTX Tatra was limited series production that even wiki has only a photo and "oneliner" about it. It's reffered as MTX Tatra Sport in the text and MTX Tatra V8 under the photo. And you are concerned that the article will grow too big? Even the Askmen.com (unreliable) source has some decent data about it - but not wiki? I think im not overreacting here, but this video dragged the MTX Tatra V8 into the minds of wider public that it has ever been... —Preceding unsigned comment added by HerrDalton (talk • contribs) 07:32, 2 November 2010 (UTC) Yeah, how come one can be so uptooth? You should go there http://cs.wikipedia.org/wiki/MTX_Tatra_V8 and delete that revision too, just to show off your rigid standards, please HerrDalton (talk) 21:48, 2 November 2010 (UTC)

Kesha's "Sleazy"

Appears to be a valid single to me.—Ryūlóng (竜龙) 18:30, 2 November 2010 (UTC)

It's a promotional release as a preamble to the EP. 18:33, 2 November 2010 (UTC)

And "We R Who We R" isn't?—Ryūlóng (竜龙) 18:34, 2 November 2010 (UTC)

No; "We R Who We R" was released to radio and as a CD single. Yves (talk) 18:35, 2 November 2010 (UTC)

And "Sleazy" is a digital single. How does that make it invalid for coverage?—Ryūlóng (竜龙) 18:39, 2 November 2010 (UTC)

It's not "invalid for coverage"; it simply isn't a legit single. "E.T.", "Circle the Drain", and "Not Like the Movies" were digital-only singles from Teenage Dream, as were "Speak Now", "Back to December", and "Mean" from Speak Now. It does not belong in the infobox. Yves (talk) 18:44, 2 November 2010 (UTC)

That's why we have {{digital singles}}.—Ryūlóng (竜龙) 18:47, 2 November 2010 (UTC)

Why did you not use it? Yves (talk) 18:49, 2 November 2010 (UTC)

Fergie discography

Well other charted songs are more like songs that weren't released as singles and just charted. Both "Finally" and "Labels of Love" received radio and digital download releases. Are you trying to tell me it has to be released as a CD single to be considered an official single? That's not what I've been told yet again when I tried to discuss "Woohoo" being an official single. Are they wrong then? I don't understand what exactly the qualifications of a single is. ΣПDiПG–STΛЯT (Talk) 23:35, 3 November 2010 (UTC)

I know what you mean. I think there should be some kind of qualification added or something. It seriously drives me crazy. If you'd like to change it back, I can put them back. I'm currently converting the style. ΣПDiПG–STΛЯT (Talk) 23:47, 3 November 2010 (UTC)

I only got rid of Paradise City, as it's not actually her song. Yano what I mean? :P ΣПDiПG–STΛЯT (Talk) 00:00, 4 November 2010 (UTC)

According to the part of on, it is only a "song" not a "single." And thanks for reminding me. I almost forgot to put it into the album appearances section. Doing that section now. Then I'll get onto the promo singles. ΣПDiПG–STΛЯT (Talk) 00:04, 4 November 2010 (UTC)

Question about album count

Hi, Yves. A quick question: why'd you change the count of studio albums on Rihanna discography from 5 to 4? — JohnFromPinckney (talk) 05:35, 4 November 2010 (UTC)

Oh, that was because she has only released four studio albums. This is because in the [highly improbably] chance that the album gets cancelled or pushed back or delayed or something happens that brings about its non-existence, it would count, so she would never have released five studio albums, right? For an artist like Rihanna, the probability is infinitesimal, but existent nonetheless, and if it was cancelled, it would be like, "Oh wait, JK nvm there aren't five studio albums." *change back to 4*. Per WP:CRYSTAL, it's not definite until it happens, right? Yves (talk) 05:42, 4 November 2010 (UTC)

Right, totally agree. Only: we've already got Loud listed in the table (and can't get rid of it anymore, not that I haven't tried). So the problem for me (beside the OMG-let's-not-wait-even-a-second mentality) is that the counter box thingy doesn't match the number of items in the table. Yes, its breaking CRYSTAL to have it in the table, but now there's a mismatch. IYSWIM. — JohnFromPinckney (talk) 11:53, 4 November 2010 (UTC)

True, but looking at the studio albums table, one can know the album hasn't been released, so it's not really a mismatch. Yves (talk) 11:58, 4 November 2010 (UTC)

Glee template

Oops... my bad! I thought the episode has to have aired first, before being added. :) Rcej (Robert) - talk 04:14, 6 November 2010 (UTC)

Just the Way You Are

Thank you for changing it the chart year for Just the Way You Are (Billy Joel song) to just 1978. I wasn't sure when the actual peak occurred in the UK, so I didn't want to change it. However, note that WP:YEAR would not apply in this case because dashes refer to a date range, chart peaks are singular years, which is why WP:CHARTS actually recommends separate charts for different peak years. I didn't do that in this case because I did not know the actual peak dates for this song. Thanks. --Starcheerspeaksnewslostwars (talk) 18:06, 6 November 2010 (UTC)

Flo Rida Album

Well, Flo Rida tweeted that his album name would be "The Only One" http://twitter.com/official_flo/status/10892447100 No offence though. User:72.56.248.23 —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.56.248.23 (talk) 22:39, 6 November 2010 (UTC)

Volume 4 Source

This good enough? It's a blog, but it links to spoilertv.com - specifically, here. CycloneGU (talk) 04:34, 7 November 2010 (UTC)
Hmm, spoilertv might be a blog too..and its source is here...which might also be a blog...I'm still looking for better. CycloneGU (talk) 04:36, 7 November 2010 (UTC)
All right, tommy2.net posted it. They even have artwork. Since they've proven pretty reliable for Glee releases so far, I am willing to accept that as a valid reference. CycloneGU (talk) 05:15, 7 November 2010 (UTC)

Yeah, they have been pretty good in the past, but since a track listing is considered "contentious facts", I would like to leave it for now. I think it's best to wait, because I'm still really reluctant and iffy about using it as a good source. I don't see the harm in waiting; a page on Barnes & Noble, Billboard, or allmusic should be up within the next couple of days, and I'd be much more comfortable with one of those as a source. :) Yves (talk) 08:47, 7 November 2010 (UTC)

WP:OR

Hi

can you please tell me what did I do wrong here? you mentioned WP:OR and "rm redundancy". and why not to use both templates: The Black Eyed Peas & The Black Eyed Peas singles? part about charts i understand :)--ArmedRadar2307 (talk) 21:41, 7 November 2010 (UTC)

ok, now i understand :)--ArmedRadar2307 (talk) 21:55, 7 November 2010 (UTC)

of course it's ok :) when you said that there in only 1 chart I thought you said that when there will be 2 charts I can add them to article, lol--ArmedRadar2307 (talk) 13:28, 9 November 2010 (UTC)

"The Time (The Dirty Bit)"

I didn't remove it. They did. If you check iTunes and all the releases, it doesn't have the second The. And it's also been removed from their site posts, etc. ΣПDiПG–STΛЯT (Talk) 20:36, 9 November 2010 (UTC)

Maybe I changed it a bit fast. But it seemed pretty legit to me. And are you talking about the blog post by them? I don't think that really qualifies as it could be incorrect. The song was released as "The Time (Dirty Bit)" so it should be called as so. How about changing the info to say "also know as" instead of "previously"? ΣПDiПG–STΛЯT (Talk) 20:54, 9 November 2010 (UTC)

From all the releases, and their website announcing it's release http://www.blackeyedpeas.com/home/news/812629 I think it's safe to say that the second "the" was removed from the title. Added the sign, btw. Haha, school - it's exhausting. Anyways, I changed it to say "also known as The Time (The Dirty Bit)" as it was released without the "the." ΣПDiПG–STΛЯT (Talk) 20:54, 9 November 2010 (UTC)

Oh god, can't wait for that... :P But yeah. It seems to me they removed the "the" from it last minute (which is understandable, it actually annoyed the hell outta me.) I say we should wait and see in the next few days if it changes on the charts and stuff. I didn't realize that before I changed it. ΣПDiПG–STΛЯT (Talk) 21:01, 9 November 2010 (UTC)

Hmm, I'd say it'd just be best to keep it without the second the, as it was released as such. Billboard seems to be the only one saying otherwise as of right now. ΣПDiПG–STΛЯT (Talk) 00:37, 11 November 2010 (UTC)

Avril Lavigne Template (heck, all templates)

Ah sweet, thanks for explaining. I should have avoided bothering you with the reversion by just asking you in the first place. Cheers – Kerαunoςcopia^◁_galaxies 08:08, 11 November 2010 (UTC)

No problem! You're very welcome! Yves (talk) 21:15, 13 November 2010 (UTC)

'Firework' Music Video Edit

Hello, you recently continuously removed my detailed, wonderful edits to this video, replacing them with sub-par, poor-quality and under-detailed summaries, filled with incorrect information about the video itself and using poor grammar, and even poorer vocabulary, to describe the events of the video. My edit was very detailed, to the T. While copyright may have been violated in adding the lyrics, nothing else was wrong with the addition. You cited "too long", which is probably why the article has such a low Quality Standards rating, as all of the detailed additions seem to have been removed as "too long". I'd like a detailed explanation of your motives, and perhaps we can come to some resolution, but please stop modifying it for now, or I'll have to motion for the article to be locked for not following editing- as well as moderating- rules, such as "Assume Good Faith", and "Remain Neutral." It is my firm belief that the completely inaccurate, and so far sub-par as to be obscene previous description, shouldn't be allowed to remain, anyway, and leaves one who may be serious about the meaning of her song or the actions inside of said musical video to want, as there's not been any serious detailed observations or synopsis. Thank you, and have a nice day. [[[User_talk:Allen|allen]] 08:32, 13 October 2010 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 174.252.171.156 (talk)

Aaronchall IP

It's clearly his IP, but it's more likely he has somehow been logged out and not noticed. It's not a problem as he is not trying to evade or fool anyone into thinking it is another person. The³5₉ (Talk) 07:04, 14 November 2010 (UTC)

Report filed. The³5₉ (Talk) 07:26, 14 November 2010 (UTC)

DYK for Glee: The Music, Volume 4

Orlady (talk) 12:03, 14 November 2010 (UTC)

Ugh

Restore this version please and thanks. http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=We_R_Who_We_R&oldid=396795707 - (CK)Lakeshade - talk2me - 00:07, 15 November 2010 (UTC)

Done. :) Yves (talk) 00:09, 15 November 2010 (UTC)

Thank you, IPs's.....ugh. - (CK)Lakeshade - talk2me - 00:10, 15 November 2010 (UTC)

No problem. And I feel ya. So annoying. Yves (talk) 00:15, 15 November 2010 (UTC)

Hi again

What's exactly wrong with this? Here it says that promo cd single was released on 08/11/2010.--ArmedRadar2307 (talk) 15:05, 15 November 2010 (UTC)

OK then :) The other link was working, but they changed it. This link is also no longer working.--ArmedRadar2307 (talk) 16:33, 15 November 2010 (UTC)

quicki?

I cant believe its taking so long to get Roman's Revenge protected. I've requested that the vandal(s) be blocked at WP:AIV too -- Lil_℧niquℇ №1 | talk2me 02:05, 16 November 2010 (UTC)

Haha the orange bar came up the same time as I clicked on the IP's talk page to see the block. Thanks! P.S. I've listed the site for blacklist addition because it has been used on many, many articles. Feel free to add. I don't even know what's going on here. Yves (talk) 02:07, 16 November 2010 (UTC)

BS

		The Original Barnstar
		Too often great editors like you are overlooked and not given the credit deserved for all their great contributions. So I am awarding you this barnstar to let you know I greatly appreciate all you do for Wikipedia, and please keep up the outstanding work!! CTJF83 chat 03:27, 17 November 2010 (UTC)

Oh wow, thank you so much, Ctjf: I'm humbled! At first, I didn't know what the edit summary was referring to and I was like, "Uh oh, did I do something wrong?" but this turned out to be a pleasant surprise! :D Yves (talk) 04:16, 17 November 2010 (UTC)

LOL, you're the 2nd person to question that...I'm too lazy, guess it's a few letters shorter...in the future I should spell it out! :) CTJF83 chat 04:18, 17 November 2010 (UTC)

Billboard

Hey Yes, I came to know from JohnFromPinckney's page that you require some help with a certain song's peak, which BB and Allmusic is not archiving. Well you can ask me, since I subscribe to the magazines and can easily cite the phsyical magazine reference for you. — Legolas ^(talk2me) 07:21, 19 November 2010 (UTC)

I have access to Billboard.biz also, so can provide you with direct links from there too. :) — Legolas ^(talk2me) 16:20, 19 November 2010 (UTC)

DYK for Furt

Gatoclass (talk) 12:07, 19 November 2010 (UTC)

Your revert of my Bruno Mars edit

I see that you reverted my edit on Bruno Mars, citing that the "swedish charts are more relevant" than the Norwegian ones. I can't really see how the Swedish charts have more pertinence than the Norwegian charts. May I please have an explanation? MikeNicho231 (talk) 21:15, 19 November 2010 (UTC)

Yeah, sorry; my edit summary was cut off when I hit the "Enter" button by accident and I had to write a dummy summary. Basically, the Swedish peak is higher than the Norwegian and WP:DISCOGSTYLE says to "go by the relative success of the artist on that chart." Yves (talk) 21:20, 19 November 2010 (UTC)

Editor help

Seeing as you've dealt with this user before, would you help me with Yokota126?, who has been making the same change to sourced content on Graduation (album), the album's sales figure, and has not taken heed to any of my edit summaries in reverting such edits nor talk page posts. Dan56 (talk) 21:37, 19 November 2010 (UTC)

Animal

Please tell me you're watching Animal (Kesha album) because im getting a headache from all the IP's and poo edits. -.- - (CK)Lakeshade - talk2me - 03:40, 20 November 2010 (UTC)

Yeah, I am. So frustrating, I know. Yves (talk) 01:05, 21 November 2010 (UTC)

Loud

The top 5 ARIA charts for singles in Albums and Singles was released in the Herald Sun Newspaper in Melbourne, Australia. It stated on the Albums chart that Loud charted at #3 for this week .I Apologize for my error in referencing, but there is no need for you to be rude :) Don't believe me, check in the charts soon. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Amyfairygreen2 (talk • contribs) 04:04, 21 November 2010 (UTC)

Release dates in album articles

Hey! Quick query - is there a relevant guideline governing release date sections? I was about to add a few more to Volume 1, but then realised I wasn't sure whether it should just be for countries where the album charted, so it doesn't turn into a long indiscriminate list? I can't find anything official either way, but I'm probably looking in the wrong places. Frickative 05:52, 20 November 2010 (UTC)

Hey! There actually aren't any concrete rules that I can find, and WP:ALBUM#Release history doesn't address that. It makes sense to have the dates of the countries that charted, and maybe some other major areas where it didn't. I've just seen many articles with release dates of many countries. I see you've done a lot of work with converting tables to satisfy WP:ACCESS. I have to ask, though: have those changes been fully approved? Also, I'd like to know where you think the article is lacking in terms of GA standards. Looking at a GA like Sounds of the Season: The Taylor Swift Holiday Collection, I think we have a great article so far, but would like to know what can be done to improve it. :) Yves (talk) 06:23, 20 November 2010 (UTC)

Thanks! I had tabs open for a few different European countries, but I think instead I'll just go through the ones where it charted to check whether the release was physical or digital or both. It looks like there's still some bickering going on over the finer points, but given that the data table recommendations moved from essay to guideline form a couple of months ago without opposition, I'd assume tacit approval. The only element I changed which isn't part of that was moving the references to a column at the end, which is entirely my own preference just because I think it looks a bit neater, haha. I've seen featured lists present the refs either way so I assume it's not a problem, but I don't mind if you'd rather have them integrated back in with the data. (Oh, the captions are pretty terrible though, I'm no good at those =/).

In terms of further improvements, I think vast swathes of the critical response section could stand to be paraphrased, because it looks like I just threw a lot of quotes down and left it at that. Development isn't as bad, but there's still some meaningless promo-speak like "Glee is a smart and challenging yet totally mainstream platform for the most innovative use of classic and contemporary pop seen on television." Blah. Bad writing is entirely my fault though, so I'll try and give it a good copy-edit this weekend. That aside, for broadness of coverage there should probably be a brief mention of the tour in there somewhere - perhaps just at the end of "Development", because I don't think there's enough material to support a separate "Promotion" section as in the TSwift article. Oh, and something about the inclusion of the karaoke bonus tracks, again probably just a sentence under Development. That should take care of GA critera 1 and 3. 4-6 are already met, then a check through of the references for formatting and redirecting URLS, a quick fix of the dablinks and then hopefully, that should be that! Frickative 07:16, 20 November 2010 (UTC)

Nope, I'm perfectly good with the refs being placed at the last column! It does make it look neater. And I'm not sure what you mean by "captions"? Haha no, don't think of it as "bad writing"! Just think of it as a continuous improvement. Indeed, I've noticed your writing skills have only become stronger, especially in paraphrasing reviewers' comments. I've kind of been doing some of the 'Mr. X from Newspaper Y thought that "Lorem ipsum quote"' kinda thing, but I see it's really toned down. Looking at your most recent: the music section for "Never Been Kissed" is a prime example of great work, and I've been trying to emulate that. :P

About promotion, I agree that a separate promotion section is unnecessary: the tour could be mentioned in a couple of sentences ("A tour ... accompanied the album ... visited cities in North America. "..." were included on the setlist." or something). In some album articles, I've seen singles merged with promotion (example: FA Janet Jackson's Control), because singles are many times considered promotion for the album, but I guess not with the case of Glee; singles kind of stood on their own and the album acted as a compilation of the tracks digitally, in a way, and for those who wanted a physical copy. I'll tackle the quick karaoke tracks sentence, and I'll update somes singles sales figures from a Yahoo! Music article that uses data from Nielsen SoundScan. Also, I'm going to try to find an updated sales figure for the album, if it exists. :) Yves (talk) 08:47, 20 November 2010 (UTC)

I think you forgot to replace the URL for Mexico? Haha. Yves (talk) 01:05, 21 November 2010 (UTC)

By captions I mean the pre-header bits, like "List of sales certifications by country and provider" - I'm not sure if they're actually meant to be that descriptive, like alt-text, or if shorter/simpler would be better. Thank you, considering it as a continuous process is certainly a much kinder way of looking at it, and thank you very much for your comments on "Never Been Kissed"! I agree that with Glee, the singles aren't really promoting the album - more the show itself if anything. Great find on the updated sales figures (very surprising to see a season two track make it in there within a month of release!) And perhaps I'm looking at the diff wrong (and I wouldn't be at all surprised to have messed it up), but to me it looks as though I replaced mexicancharts.com with the Mexican iTunes Store? Frickative 08:55, 21 November 2010 (UTC)

From what I've seen, it looks like it's similar to alt text, though I'm not certain. The one you mentioned seems to be alright, in any case. You're quite welcome! And I was surprised, too! Though I didn't think it was that great, I think the reason for the huge sales is because it was the first single of the season after months of Glee withdrawal that I know I went through haha. And with the diff, you used the URL for The Christmas Album, instead. :P Yves (talk) 09:11, 21 November 2010 (UTC)

LOL oh dear, I even double-triple checked the diff and somehow still missed that. Oops. Cheers for fixing it! Frickative 09:25, 21 November 2010 (UTC)

  I wrote the correct date change on Pink Friday and it was changed b this Yves person. User:100sbo10  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.233.9.101 (talk) 13:56, 25 November 2010 (UTC) 

brass session on kanye west album

Why am I not getting a response from any editor? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Dflam (talk • contribs) 19:58, 21 November 2010 (UTC)

I asked to include the brass session in the recording section of the article. "Edit request for the production section regarding the brass"

I included the information that is relevant.

--Dflam (talk) 19:39, 23 November 2010 (UTC)

MBDTF change

Hey sorry about the whole not released yet thing. I live on the West Coast so I wouldn't know what the time is in other countries where its being released. STATic message me! 00:33, 22 November 2010 (UTC)

Haha it's okay. Well that's a drag for you, I guess; you're the last one to get things released. :/ Yves (talk) 00:35, 22 November 2010 (UTC)

DYK for Grenade (song)

Materialscientist (talk) 12:06, 24 November 2010 (UTC)

Do It Like a Dude

Hi there! Do It Like a Dude is the debut single of Jessie J and it is being promoted now. It is big enough to have it own page. I appreciate you can undo your action and help me improving it. :) I'm searching for more information in reliable sources, such producers, studio used... Thank you for your time and I hope you can reply to discuss this. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Darkfreakxx7 (talk • contribs) 04:59, 25 November 2010 (UTC)

Hey! Thanks for the quick answer. Still I don't understand what is missing in that article. I've read the guidelines you posted. The page has covers, tracklists, release dates, music video information (I will write down a small text about its storyline soon), writers information and extra information about peaking iTunes charts. What else should be in? Maybe a small screen capture from the video? I looked around and there are similar pages so that's why I don't get this one is deleted. I spent a few hours editing it. lol Thanks anyway :) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Darkfreakxx7 (talk • contribs) 05:10, 25 November 2010 (UTC)

Glee: The Music, Volume 4

May I ask why Original artist is not appropriate for this article? ΣПD!ПG–STΛЯT | TΛLK | 07:07, 27 November 2010 (UTC)

Because it's an incorrect heading. "I Want to Hold Your Hand" was originally performed by The Beatles and "Sway" by Pablo Beltrán Ruiz. Yves (talk) 07:08, 27 November 2010 (UTC)

Black Eyed Peas Template

What the hell has happened to the BEP template? ΣПD!ПG–STΛЯT | TΛLK | 20:10, 27 November 2010 (UTC)

Ah, alright. I was unsure and I got so lost in the redirects and stuff trying to find out what went on. Haha yeah, I understand why it's different. ΣПD!ПG–STΛЯT | TΛLK | 21:43, 27 November 2010 (UTC)

Yay, haha. Yeah, I've been going over a few here and there. Don't really have anything else on my plate. ΣПD!ПG–STΛЯT | TΛLK | 23:34, 27 November 2010 (UTC)

Haha, yes I do. I don't have an email thing set up, but I can do that. ΣПD!ПG–STΛЯT | TΛLK | 00:19, 28 November 2010 (UTC)

Well I did it anyway. I've been meaning to regardless. xD ΣПD!ПG–STΛЯT | TΛLK | 00:22, 28 November 2010 (UTC)

Why yes I am. Just messing around with my signature atm. xD ΣПDIПG–STΛЯT (talk | contribs) 02:27, 28 November 2010 (UTC)

Ah, right. I haven't got used to the new msn yet. Accepting you now. :L ΣПDIПG–STΛЯT (talk contribs) 02:33, 28 November 2010 (UTC)

Download Charts

I should ask you if it's allowed to use official download chart positions on an album page (Loud by Rihanna). The German download charts are published by the official representer of the German charts, Media Control. So, it's usable and should be included? Also, the American pendant is used in lots of album pages, am I right? Please also write your opinion on the Loud's discussion page! Thanks... --79.216.157.159 (talk) 14:10, 28 November 2010 (UTC)