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Please archive your talk page

I know you like having the kitty at the top but it really is starting to take a while to load :-)

So, I've devised an exceedingly crafty plan: every time your talk page gets really long, I'mma give you a new kitten picture.

Here's your first:

sonia♫ 08:06, 12 February 2012 (UTC)

Your nefarious plan has succeeded. <3 Dcoetzee 09:36, 12 February 2012 (UTC)

Random Acts of Kindness Barnstar

		The Random Acts of Kindness Barnstar
		For being a nice guy. Pinetalk 08:29, 12 February 2012 (UTC)

Thank you! You are also quite nice. :-) Dcoetzee 09:35, 12 February 2012 (UTC)

Dan Leno

Hi. I see that you had contributed to Dan Leno in the past. He was a well-known British musical comedy and music hall star around the 1890s. His article has recently been expanded and is headed for FA consideration. If you have time, please be so kind as to review the article and comment at this Peer Review. Thanks for any assistance! -- Ssilvers (talk) 23:57, 13 February 2012 (UTC)

Wikicode redirect

Wikipedia:Cheatsheet is now referring to MediaWiki markup as wikicode. So, do you remind if I change Wikipedia:Wikicode to redirect to Help:Wiki markup? Superm401 - Talk 01:04, 14 February 2012 (UTC)

Feel free. Dcoetzee 02:32, 14 February 2012 (UTC)

Thanks. Superm401 - Talk 06:47, 14 February 2012 (UTC)

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A barnstar for you!

	The Technical Barnstar
	Just wanted to let you know that I appreciate the creation of your Persondata-o-matic tool, and thank you for releasing your code to the public domain, that’s damn brave! If I had more free time, I would like to port it to Linux (using Mono) so I can use it in my main computer... Congrats! —Fitoschido [shouttrack] @ 20 February, 2012; 10:10

Hi Fitoschido, glad you like it! I did this in C# just because I was already familiar with it - I tried Mono out a little but had issues. Honestly I think it'd probably be easier to recreate using mwclient and PySide (Qt for Python). Dcoetzee 10:17, 20 February 2012 (UTC)

Category:Jimbo Wales

Category:Jimbo Wales, which you created, has been nominated for discussion. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments at the category's entry on the Categories for discussion page. Thank you. Armbrust, B.Ed. ^{Let's talk}_{about my edits?} 20:57, 21 February 2012 (UTC)

Philip Walsted

Dcoetzee: I don't know what I'm doing with this. glad to hear that someone is reading my page regarding Philip Walsted.

You took 2 photos off my page because you did not believe that I took them. I took them and I am in one of them. I took them with film and I have the negatives. After Philip Walsted's death, I distributed all of the photos you see on the web associated with Philip. I let the AZ Star, Echo, Tucson Citizen, Tucson Observer, several television studios, etc., have any photos they wanted to use. You will not find any copyright on any of those pictures (if you were to, please tell me and I may sue that party).

Philip Walsted was my partner, and on the 10th anniversary of his death, I thought it was time to chronicle this terrible episode for the history books. The photo I have not yet uploaded is of the memorial. The City of Tucson authorized a memorial, I paid for it, and took the picture(s) I will upload. I hope Wikipedia will see the value in this story.

Again, thanks for helping me - I hope I put this in the right place. Sincerely, Jonathan [personal info redacted] — Preceding unsigned comment added by Doctorjonny (talk • contribs) 05:54, 22 February 2012 (UTC)

Copyright question

http://toolserver.org/~dcoetzee/duplicationdetector/compare.php?url1=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.skills-to-love.com%2FGratitude.html&url2=http%3A%2F%2Fen.wikipedia.org%2Fwiki%2FGratitude_journal&minwords=2&minchars=13 shows significant overlap between an article that I started, Gratitude journal, and a website. My evaluation is that the website copied from the Wikipedia article and then claimed copyright of it. Another user seems to evaluate this differently. Since this duplication detector is under your space at Toolserver, I'd like to ask your views of this. Pine^talk 18:51, 22 February 2012 (UTC)

I can't find any evidence either way, but I have no reason to doubt your claim. This is probably a reverse or backwards copyvio. The site is dated 2011-2012, and likely was created after your article. See {{Backwardscopy}}. I find it particularly ironic that a page dedicated to gratitude failed to give proper attribution. Dcoetzee 21:23, 22 February 2012 (UTC)

The external website is definitely copying, text further up the page is copied from our Gratitude article, and the improperly spaced commas at "study , about the theme , participants" show how the external author crudely modified the wiki-text. And as it turns out, so is Pine: compare the text added here with the text from Gratitude as of 1 July 2010. This looks to me like unattributed internal copying of text. Franamax (talk) 18:35, 23 February 2012 (UTC)

The internal copying can be repaired per the normal procedure (Wikipedia:Copying within Wikipedia). Dcoetzee 18:36, 23 February 2012 (UTC)

Thank you for bringing this concern to my attention. I've replied here. Pine^talk 09:19, 24 February 2012 (UTC)

Duplication detector

Following this discussion is it possible to change the output so that there's a message at the top that it shouldn't be relied on and manual inspection may still be neccessary. I've fixed it so that the copvio template will always use the version before it was added in the detector and so solved the problem in this specific case but I know the detector still won't work in some cases (e.g. google books) so the confusion that happened there could happen again. Dpmuk (talk) 21:46, 22 February 2012 (UTC)

Done. Dcoetzee 21:46, 22 February 2012 (UTC)

Wow, that was quick. Thanks. Dpmuk (talk) 21:59, 22 February 2012 (UTC)

Douglas W. Owsley

Hey there! Would you have any time to participate in a GA review or offer some guidance in the review of the above referenced article? The review is being made by an editor making claims of copyright violations and close paraphrasing. Maggie is unavailable and suggested that I contact you for assistance. My assertion is that there are times when close paraphrasing is permissible. In some areas, I have presented factual information, in which there are a limited number of ways to say the same thing. The article already went through the DYK process with nothing mentioned about copyright or close paraphrasing. I've received numerous comments that the article would most likely sail through the GAN review, so I'm puzzled. Best regards, Cind.amuse (Cindy) 17:25, 23 February 2012 (UTC)

Left comments at Talk:Douglas W. Owsley/GA1. Dcoetzee 19:09, 23 February 2012 (UTC)

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A barnstar for you

		The da Vinci Barnstar
		For the ingenious new script (Followed Users) that will save all us Vandal fighters just a little bit of time, it is my pleasure and honor to award you The da Vinci Barnstar. Achowat (talk) 13:16, 27 February 2012 (UTC)

Thank you! I hope it's helpful. Let me know if you have feedback. Dcoetzee 16:59, 27 February 2012 (UTC)

Non-automated edit counts

I'm told there was a tool at RfA to get a user's non-automated edit count, but that tool now seems to be offline. I am proposing that Wikipedia Service Awards be based on non-automated edit count here. Is there another tool that you know of that will calculate a user's non-automated edit count? Pine^talk 04:15, 28 February 2012 (UTC)

Frankly, I don't know how any automatic tool could consistently distinguish automatic edits from non-automatic ones - some tools include a signal in the edit summary, some do not. And what about semiautomatic edits? Should those count as half or what? Dcoetzee 04:18, 28 February 2012 (UTC)

Thanks but disregard. The missing tool has been found! http://toolserver.org/~tparis/autoedits/index.php Pine^talk 04:28, 28 February 2012 (UTC)

Yep, but that's not reliable in that sense :P I feel like hugglers do more constructive work than people manually making nonsense edits anyway, and edit count should remain an objective matter. Once all this subjective stuff is introduced some people feel less valued than others. Edit count is edit count! sonia♫ 05:19, 28 February 2012 (UTC)

Edit count is a completely pointless metric that should be ignored entirely. It is not the absolute measure of a contributor's worth that everyone likes to pretend it is. Excluding types of edit based on their perceived worth doesn't change that. Gurch (talk) 14:47, 28 February 2012 (UTC)

(o_O a gurch.) Well, yes, that too. Edit count is an entirely worthless way of gauging activity, but one that is often used nevertheless simply because it's an easy gauge. But my initial point was that I don't see any reason why, for those minded to use service awards, they should be illegitimized for semi-automation since that actually makes things more efficient. It's essentially discrimination on the basis of type of contribution, with the idea that some are more useful than others. Pine, said tool only counts the most common automatic edits, etc. And I really do think that's a terrible idea. Service awards in themselves are a bit of a terrible idea, but their use by some harms nobody else unless they are used as an actual metric of value. Taking them too seriously and being all "zomg we must make this more fair for the non-vandalfighters" kind of negates the fact that 1) they're just a bit of fun; and 2) hey, if vandal fighting is what you do best, sure it's something that can be done more quickly but it's nevertheless of more value than commenting repeatedly on ANI. sonia♫ 19:20, 28 February 2012 (UTC)

I brought up this subject only in the context of possible changes to Wikipedia:Service awards. I agree that edit count is far from being a precise and accurate way to measure a user's contributions, but it's one of the few that are easily available. Pine^talk 03:14, 29 February 2012 (UTC)

Followed users

On your followed users script on the toolsever, only the last edit is showing from each user. How do I get it to show more than one edit? Also, I'm not seeing the start/stop following links anywhere (I'm on Chrome). —danhash (talk) 20:45, 28 February 2012 (UTC)

Hmm the follow/unfollow links should appear in your toolbox on the left-hand side, but I haven't tested on Chrome yet. Let me know your version and OS and I'll look at it. You can only see the most recent edit by each user, to avoid one user dominating the list, but I'm open to other suggestions on dealing with this issue. Dcoetzee 03:39, 29 February 2012 (UTC)

To me, the tool is rather useless with only seeing one edit per user; it kind of defeats the purpose. It seems that there are a wide variety of potential uses for this tool however, so for some people that may be helpful. There are two options that are immediately apparent to me:

1. Combine all contributions from all users into one list. This is quite like article history pages, only instead of listing all edits to an article by all users who edited the article, it's a list of all edits by a specific list of editors. Same idea, different context. Or even simpler, it's just Special:RecentChanges constrained to a specific list of users.
2. List each users' contributions (all of them) in a different section, perhaps limited by date range or number of edits. This is more along the idea of the cross-wiki contribs tool, only with one section per user listing all their contributions on a single project rather than one section per project listing all contributions of a single user.

#1 would be useful for following edit wars or especially for discussions taking place in multiple locations. #2 would be helpful for keeping track of multiple, separate vandals. Both seem very useful but in different contexts. Perhaps what would be best is an option to toggle between the two modes. What might be helpful is multiple lists with user-defined titles and a configuration page to organize and manage them; for example, a user could have a "Vandals" list with all watched vandals showing up in mode #2 and a couple different WikiProject members lists showing up in mode #1. This route, obviously, is more complicated and would take longer to code.

I am currently on WinXP/Chrome 17, though I can test in Firefox later. I do have a lot of other user-scripts enabled (though none that off the top of my head should interfere), so if it works in Chrome for you I can try to troubleshoot my common.js. —danhash (talk) 16:20, 29 February 2012 (UTC)

Could the "Followed users" link be switched to use HTTPS, or at least be made protocol relative, so that when I'm using HTTPS on Wikipedia it stays HTTPS on the toolserver? —danhash (talk) 21:26, 29 February 2012 (UTC)

Fixed all links to be protocol-relative (in script and on server-side). Dcoetzee 23:46, 1 March 2012 (UTC)

Awesome, thanks! —danhash (talk) 17:57, 2 March 2012 (UTC)

Re your suggestions, Dan, several people have asked for it to list all contribs of followed users (in the selected time period), which I will make an option. I'm less sure about having multiple partitioned followed user lists, which seems evidently useful, but would require more careful interface design since I can't just emulate the familiar watchlist there. Dcoetzee 13:48, 2 March 2012 (UTC)

Thanks, that'd be a great change. As for multiple lists and the alternate view, I understand, and it certainly would be more work. Thanks! —danhash (talk) 17:57, 2 March 2012 (UTC)

Any plans on adding this feature soon? —danhash (talk) 17:39, 17 April 2012 (UTC)

Person-o-matic feature request

Could Person-o-matic get its list articles to do load from either a text page or blue links from a wiki page?

Example, I can generate a list of footballers without the short description parameter, but I don't think I can load this list into Person-o-matic. I can save this list into my sandbox or into a text file.

This is in regards to User_talk:Rcsprinter123#persondata. Bgwhite (talk) 20:56, 29 February 2012 (UTC)

Try [1]. You can specify what file to load a list from. —  HELLKNOWZ  ▎TALK 12:49, 1 March 2012 (UTC)

It does load a list.

Couple of problems I've encountered.

1. It won't load a name with a diacritic/accents. Example is Anže Kopitar.
2. It didn't fill in the birth place and death place completely even though it was already set in the article. Example is: Alf Smith

Bgwhite (talk) 19:50, 1 March 2012 (UTC)

You have to set the file encoding to UTF-8 (Not Ansi which is probably the default). It's the way Dotnetwikibot handles files and I cannot really do anything about it. The other bug I don't know about though, since it's in the original version. —  HELLKNOWZ  ▎TALK 20:00, 1 March 2012 (UTC)

Only name is filled in automatically currently (other automatic fill-ins are unimplemented). Dcoetzee 23:12, 1 March 2012 (UTC)

In Alf Smith, birth and death date were already filled in. But, o-matic took the info and truncated it. Bgwhite (talk) 00:45, 2 March 2012 (UTC)

Oh, that is a bug. I'll look into it... Dcoetzee 00:56, 2 March 2012 (UTC)

It is only barfing when birth place, death place and short description contains a pipe, ie "|". Looked at alot of articles and this is the time it does barf. FYI, I've got two people chomping on the bit to start working with this. It would be nice if this could get done sooner rather than later. Bgwhite (talk) 22:52, 5 March 2012 (UTC)

Fixing this will require some work - I wasn't aware template parameters even could contain pipe characters. I'm going to have to replicate some of Mediawiki's template parsing to make sure I get this right. Dcoetzee 06:03, 6 March 2012 (UTC)

Ok. Understand. People who love creating Ice Hockey articles have to abbreviate everything. For example, if the birth place is Quebec, Canada, they will do [[Quebec|QC|]], [[Canada|CN]]. Bgwhite (talk) 06:24, 6 March 2012 (UTC)

Here is a fix with some dirtyish regex that will work for links and templates inside the field values until Dcoetzee makes a parser. Works on Alf Smith and probably 99% of cases. —  HELLKNOWZ  ▎TALK 11:13, 6 March 2012 (UTC)

Feel free to check in the workaround for now, Hellknowz, and I'll review your changes and get those up on the project page ASAP. I'm also going to inquire about this "links in persondata" thing at Wikipedia:Persondata, maybe automatically removing them is something the tool should do. Dcoetzee 20:07, 6 March 2012 (UTC)

I did, it's in the last push. —  HELLKNOWZ  ▎TALK 21:37, 6 March 2012 (UTC)

Modifying Persondata-o-matic

Hi! If one was to work on the source code and add features, how would one go about committing that to the "official" version? I understand you don't have a repository or alike set up for the project? —  HELLKNOWZ  ▎TALK 10:40, 1 March 2012 (UTC)

Hi Hellknowz, I didn't bother setting up version control because it was a quick thing, which was rather foolish because of course it turned out to be not so quick. :-) I'll get it up on github and get you push privileges. Dcoetzee 20:19, 1 March 2012 (UTC)

Cool, tell me when you do. —  HELLKNOWZ  ▎TALK 10:41, 2 March 2012 (UTC)

Will need your Github username to give you privileges though... Dcoetzee 13:29, 2 March 2012 (UTC)

It's "H3llkn0wz". —  HELLKNOWZ  ▎TALK 13:38, 2 March 2012 (UTC)

Up at [2]. Feel free to submit anything, I'll code review it after check-in. Dcoetzee 04:03, 3 March 2012 (UTC)

Open CCI request could use another admin opinion

Derrick, hi. :) There is an open image-related CCI that could use the input of another admin experienced in images. If you have time, could you review the Wikiwatcher1 request, currently third down here? I'm sorry that it's a lot of reading (replete with feedback from our legal team), but I have a feeling it will probably fall within an area that you already know, so it might not be too difficult for you. If you don't have time, that's perfectly fine. I'll seek elsewhere. --Moonriddengirl ^(talk) 13:37, 2 March 2012 (UTC)

Done. :-) Hope it was a bit helpful. Dcoetzee 05:45, 6 March 2012 (UTC)

As always. :D Thank you very much! --Moonriddengirl ^(talk) 13:12, 7 March 2012 (UTC)

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Donato Cabrera images

Hi. I stumbled across the article Donato Cabrera, which I am now in the process of de-peacocking and turning into something resembling an encyclopedia article instead of his personal publicity page. (His page on Commons, Donald Cabrera, is quite a doozy as well.) In the process, I discovered nine professional photographs of him that have been uploaded to Commons. There does not appear to be any evidence of permission having been secured from the copyright holder/photographer and they all appear (or at one time appeared) on Cabrera's website [3]. Could you check Commons:Category:Donato Cabrera and tell me what you think? Best, Voceditenore (talk) 13:13, 6 March 2012 (UTC)

Thanks, see commons:Commons:Deletion requests/All files in Category:Donato Cabrera. To my surprise I already deleted a few of his uploads in 2010. Dcoetzee 20:23, 6 March 2012 (UTC)

More changes to POM

Hey! I pushed another version with some changes (I listed them in push comment). Main change is guessing the birth/death date: here is a real example. Although a bit limited right now and needs a bunch more parsing, I pushed this so you can see what I'm going for. I don't know what exact direction you were planning to go, but I assume guessing values is the current plan? Also, I see that simple GUI is your design principle, so how much more GUIness can go onto the form? I added a few things that I would personally find helpful, but might at some point overwhelm users (think first-time AWB). —  HELLKNOWZ  ▎TALK 13:23, 9 March 2012 (UTC)

Also, I think I fixed "Sometimes removes/adds blank space on lines that were not edited.", which is probably because it did .Replace("\n", "\r\n") which would turn "\r\n" into "\r\n\n", adding another newline. I changed it to Regex with a lookbehind. —  HELLKNOWZ  ▎TALK 13:53, 9 March 2012 (UTC)

Test

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ONLY A TEST

THIS IS A MESSAGE. Lilybecky (talk) 20:47, 10 March 2012 (UTC)

Test

This is a message. Salote Soqo (talk) 20:48, 10 March 2012 (UTC)

TUSC login?

I use TUSC scripts but just have a TUSC ID token on my talk page. I'm not familiar with tools that want a TUSC username and password. What are those and how do I get them? Jojalozzo 01:06, 11 March 2012 (UTC)

• You register for a TUSC account at [4]. I think that's what you're asking? Dcoetzee 05:57, 11 March 2012 (UTC)

I'm just not used to having to use my TUSC password and got it confused with the TUSC ID token used to generate it. I generated a new account and have it working now. Jojalozzo 17:14, 11 March 2012 (UTC)

Followed users

Hi Dcoetzee. I noticed you message a little while ago at Adopt a user, regarding followed users. I installed it very soon afterwards, and have been playing with it for a few weeks. Thought you'd like a little feedback.

• It's infuriating that my TUSC login keeps expiring. I have to log in again pretty much every time I want to check it (once a day or so).
• You only see the editors most recent edit, meaning it's not particularly useful unless you are always refreshing it.

Overall, I don't think it's a bad system, I just don't think it actually helps me with anything in it's current form, so I'll probably be removing it. Keep on with it though, I'm sure it'll be helpful for some people! Worm^TT · (talk) 11:34, 12 March 2012 (UTC)

Not a problem, I appreciate your feedback. There is a planned feature to show all edits by followed users. The log in problem annoyed me too and can definitely be fixed. Dcoetzee 23:30, 12 March 2012 (UTC)

My followed user list is empty today. Is that a known issue? Jojalozzo 03:48, 15 March 2012 (UTC)

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Envir Law Topic

Hi Derrick-

My name is Laura and I am in Aaron Frank's law course. Thanks for getting us started on our wiki assignments last Saturday. I've been brainstorming topics for my wiki article and wanted to run one by you. I originally thought a page on CBE v. City of Richmond would be interesting. This is one of the first court cases related to CEQA and Climate Change in CA. Aaron said the topic is relevant to environmental law, but that it would be "hard to predict whether it will be of general importance on Wikipedia." He said it might be a good idea to check in with you on this topic. What do you think? I've poked around the cite and there are some general CA Climate Change pages and a page dedicated to Mass v. EPA (national court case dealing with CO2 regulation under the Clean Air Act).

If CBE v. City of Richmond is too "narrow", I was thinking it might be valuable to create a whole page dedicated to "CA Climate Change Litigation" (similar to the CA Climate Change page, but dealing with litigation instead of legislation). I could discuss cases such as..

• CBE v. Richmond
• Mass v. EPA (would have to be brief and refer to existing wiki page)
• Associated Irritated Residents v. CARB
• Rocky Mountain Farmers Union v. Goldstene
• Ballona Wetlands v. City of LA

Do you have any thoughts on either 1) page dedicated solely to CBE v. City of Richmond or 2) page dedicated to CA Climate Change litigation?

Thanks! Leyoon (talk) 19:22, 12 March 2012 (UTC)

Hi Laura, I think these are both excellent ideas. With respect to CBE v. City of Richmond, my main concern is you may struggle to find enough independent sources which discuss this topic - in a brief web search I only found a few scholarly or press references to the case. I think a general article called say Climate change litigation in California would be a great topic that would be interesting to a broader range of people, but naturally would not involve as much depth on any particular case. For discussing Mass v. EPA in said article, by convention you would creation a section briefly summarizing the case in a paragraph or two / relating it to other cases discussed, and at the top of the section put "{{main|Mass v. EPA}}" which provides a link that looks like this:

Main article: Mass v. EPA

You're definitely on the right track and I'm looking forward to seeing what you'll choose to write about! Dcoetzee 00:02, 13 March 2012 (UTC)

Thanks for the feedback!! I added a page to my account for editing at User:Leyoon/Climate Change Litigation in California. Is this correct for my/my partner's editing purposes? Leyoon (talk) 00:19, 13 March 2012 (UTC)

Looks great, good job! Both of you should be able to edit it by simply giving your partner the URL. Let me know if you need any other help. Dcoetzee 03:33, 13 March 2012 (UTC)

Hi, My name is Salote and Im Laura's partner for this Env Law project. So, I'm tasked with putting up our draft on Sandbox. I'm sure this was discussed in class, but just for confirmation, can Laura also be able to access my sandbox? or should/can we create a sandbox that we both can access and edit? Also, are we able to add footnotes to the body of our text?

Thanks Ssoqo (talk) 00:45, 3 April 2012 (UTC)Ssoqo

Responded on your talk page. Dcoetzee 01:15, 3 April 2012 (UTC)

Duplication detector

Refering to User_talk:Dcoetzee/Archive_2012_2_11#Duplication_Detector_2, can it be fixed? Seems it analyzes the text correctly but the rendering part happens through ANSI instead of UTF8. Regards--Siddhartha Ghai (talk) 21:40, 12 March 2012 (UTC)

Administrator Interview

Hi, my name is Jaclyn Nagel. I am a student at Michigan State University, working with Jonathan Obar on an exploration of the Wikipedia adminship process. I would like to thank you for agreeing to be interviewed. I would love to set up a time that is good for you to have a Skype or email interview. Please let me know of some times in the next two weeks that would work, Sundays and weekday evenings are preferable for me. Also feel free to contact me with any questions on my talk page! Nageljac09 (talk) 01:44, 14 March 2012 (UTC)

Hi Dcoetzee, I would love to talk to you soon about setting up an interview. Initially you requested a Skype interview but if you would prefer an interview by email that would not be a problem. Either way I would appreciate a response on here or my talk page with your Skype ID or email address if possible so we can set up an interview. Thank you again for agreeing to participate! Nageljac09 (talk) 15:20, 21 March 2012 (UTC)

Email

Hey, I shot you an email. I have a small favor to ask about it as well. I forgot to send myself a copy and wanted to forward part of it to mdennis. Could you send a version back to me, or copy the original in your response? Thanks :) Hope you're doing well. Ocaasi ^{t | c} 22:15, 14 March 2012 (UTC)

Followed user list now empty

My followed user list is empty today. Is that a known issue? Jojalozzo 03:50, 15 March 2012 (UTC)

Hi Joja, sorry for the disruption, there appears to be an issue with Toolserver at the moment. The administrators should have it resolved soon. Dcoetzee 03:51, 15 March 2012 (UTC)

Thanks! Working now. Jojalozzo

Follow user menu text not always correct

I haven't done careful testing but I have noticed that the Follow/Unfollow user menu text is sometimes not synched with the current user talk page and appears to be whatever was correct for a previously visited user. I'm not sure but it may only behave that way for IP accounts. If you need more testing let me know. Jojalozzo 18:43, 15 March 2012 (UTC)

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Was this pre-BRFA btw? I couldn't find one (just doing random bureaucracy, you're not under investigation or anything :P ) - Jarry1250 ^{[Deliberation needed]} 20:33, 16 March 2012 (UTC)

Indeed, it's nearly 8 years old, and hasn't been used in over a year. As far as I recall it only ever used for semi-automatic disambiguation, which doesn't require approval. Dcoetzee 21:20, 16 March 2012 (UTC)

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Followed users

Hi! I'm using your Followed users script and finding it very helpful. Especially loving the new integrated links in the top-right and in the toolbox - many thanks. It hasn't updated in nearly 24 hours though - somewhere between 9pm and 2am last night GMT, it stopped working for me. Any thoughts? ~ Kimelea (talk) 16:30, 20 March 2012 (UTC)

Hi Kimelea, I'm glad you find it useful! There appears to be a database update delay on the Toolserver which I can't do much about causing this - if it continues after a day or so let me know and I'll investigate further. Thanks! Dcoetzee 23:58, 20 March 2012 (UTC)

Eeeh, I just learned what replication lag is! There's a big red banner on the edit counter pages for any user. Maybe we could have one of them on Followed Users in a future version. :) Sorry for the false alarm! ~ Kimelea (talk) 00:31, 21 March 2012 (UTC)

That's a great idea, I could at least provide a notification. :-) I'll add that to the todo list. Dcoetzee 00:46, 21 March 2012 (UTC)

Ho hum. It's still down, because the database is still down... graph says the lag is at its worst for two and a half years. I think someone must've kicked a plug out. How did people track vandals before you wrote this?? ~ Kimelea (talk) 14:46, 23 March 2012 (UTC)

Wow that's very high. I see there's a thread at Wikipedia:Village_pump_(technical)#Toolserver_replication_lag. It is possible for me to build a tool that queries the Mediawiki API directly, although it would be somewhat slower. In the meantime I'm afraid you're stuck with making a list of links to Special:Contributions for each user, opening them in different tabs in Firefox, and using Firefox's "Reload all tabs" feature (right click a tab, choose "Reload all tabs"). Dcoetzee 19:47, 23 March 2012 (UTC)

Good grief, really? :p I suppose that doesn't sound like such a big deal for people who are used to not having the tool! Looks like the lag might go off the chart, if that village pump thread is anything to go by - I'll learn to be patient. ;) ~ Kimelea (talk) 20:19, 23 March 2012 (UTC)

bugzilla:35142

I think you meant to write "if a user does not have a correctly authenticated e-mail address" in the opening line. The first two paragraphs currently sound like you are reporting that email is completely broken. PrimeHunter (talk) 01:07, 21 March 2012 (UTC)

Thanks, noted. Dcoetzee 01:33, 21 March 2012 (UTC)

User script listings cleanup project

I'm leaving this message for known script authors, recent contributors to Wikipedia:WikiProject User scripts/Scripts, and those who've shown interest in user scripts.

This scripts listing page is in dire need of cleanup. To facilitate this, I've created a new draft listing at Wikipedia:WikiProject User scripts/Scripts cleanup. You're invited to list scripts you know to be currently working and relevant. Eventually this draft page can replace the current scripts listing.

If you'd like to comment or collaborate on this proposal, see the discussion I started here: Wikipedia talk:WikiProject User scripts#Scripts listing cleanup project. Thanks! Equazcion ^(talk) 02:45, 25 Mar 2012 (UTC)

CCI issues?

Hi, Derrick. :) I've tried to use the CCI tool on two different users today, and for both I get the following response: "The MySQL server is running with the --read-only option so it cannot execute this statement" I have no idea what this means; is this a problem with Toolserver or the Contributor contribution surveyor? Any clarification you can provide would be appreciated! --Moonriddengirl ^(talk)

(talk page stalker)See my "followed users" question three sections up. :) Probably the same thing. It's a problem with Toolserver which will resolve itself eventually but might take ages. (days or weeks)... At least, that's my understanding! ~ Kimelea (talk) 16:44, 25 March 2012 (UTC)

Oh, thank you! And that's awful! I hope it resolves soon. :( --Moonriddengirl ^(talk) 16:54, 25 March 2012 (UTC)

Turnitin updates (at your leisure, but it's starting to get exciting)

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Hey!

Hey Derrick, I am trying to get this bot's source done but I need some help, I asked Pine on IRC and he told me to come and talk to you. I am planning to run the bot off of my Toolserver account. It is suppose to be an anti-testing bot based from X!'s source, but I am trying to remove all of the IRC crap that I really do not need. If you have some spare time and can help me, I'll give you the source that I modified myself. Thanks and cheers. Ceradon ^talk_contribs 09:25, 26 March 2012 (UTC)

Help Page

Blocking users from my talk page was actually suggested by BretonBanquet. Hghyux (talk to me)(talk to others) 01:51, 27 March 2012 (UTC)

Env Law: Draft Work In Progress

Hi Derrick

Thanks for your response regarding using footnotes. So, I've created a 'Work in Progress' page for our Env Law project with Aaron Frank. My partner is Laura (Leyoon) - the URL is http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Ssoqo/Climate_Change_Litigation_and_the_California_Environmental_Quality_Act. So this contains both our sections for the project, is there a way that we can both be made 'users' - I was going to copy and paste everything into Laura's 'Work in progress' page. We are still working on it, but if you have any concerns about how the page looks now, please let us know. Also, is there a tutorial on how we can use images on our page?

Thanks Ssoqo (talk) 21:44, 3 April 2012 (UTC)

Hi Salote, you should use only one sandbox page, as you are currently doing, since you are collaborating on an article together, not create two pages (it's okay if Laura does not have a sandbox page). Laura can link the sandbox page from her user page if she wants to to let everyone know that she's working there. Images are challenging because finding images which are not copyrighted is difficult - generally speaking, you can't use it unless it was 1. created by yourself; 2. created by a United States federal employee in the course of their duties; or 3. published in the U.S. before 1923. If you want to use an image falling in one of these categories, you can click "Upload file" in the left-hand side, then click the small link reading "Commons Wizard". I'll review any uploads you make. I'm reviewing your article now and I'll leave any comments on the talk page of your user sandbox. Dcoetzee 22:31, 3 April 2012 (UTC)

Turnitin feature

Would it be possible to include a feature that compared an article with all its references (in HTML or PDF format)? I think it would be an incredible feature but I understand it would also take a lot of resources... Thanks for this incredible tool. Wonderful job. 85.50.155.250 (talk) 23:50, 3 April 2012 (UTC)

• I think that's a good idea. The references definitely provide a starting place. It would be even nicer if it could compare against multiple source documents and indicate for each phrase its source. Dcoetzee 23:58, 3 April 2012 (UTC)

Climate Change Page

Hey-

I was transferring text from my partners User Page to our "working" page on the class Wiki and I think I may have saved the information to the "actual Wikipedia domain"...the page name is Climate Change Litigation and the California Environmental Quality Act...did I make this mistake? We'd like to keep the page a "work in progress" until all the text has been finalized. I requested the page be removed by adding "db-g7" to the top. Can the page be deleted until we are ready to actually post? Thanks and sorry for the mistake!!

Thanks

(Leyoon (talk) 05:04, 4 April 2012 (UTC))

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Turnitin

Would you by chance be available at 3:30pm EST tomorrow (Thursday) for a conference call with some of Turnitin's execs and tech guys? I'm deciding whether or not to have the call this week or next, and your (and others') availability will influence that. Cheers :) Ocaasi ^{t | c} 18:40, 11 April 2012 (UTC)

Hi Ocaasi, sorry for the slow response - I can be available today at 3:30 if necessary, but please let me know very soon if I should be, or else suggest another time. Thanks! Dcoetzee 20:12, 12 April 2012 (UTC)

Followed users again

Hello again! Enjoying using Followed Users now that its server is running again. I've found a small bug in the integrated link in the toolbox. When I'm on a registered user's page (or talk page), the link correctly shows "follow user" if I'm not following them, and "unfollow user" if I am. But if it's an IP, the link is "unfollow user" even if I'm not following them. It is possible for me to follow a new IP from the toolbox by clicking the "unfollow user" link and then clicking the "follow user" link that appears in its place, but the bug means I have no way of knowing whether I am following them already (short of checking against my followed users list). ~ Kimelea (talk) 03:45, 16 April 2012 (UTC)

Hi Kimelea, thanks for advising me of this issue! I have a good idea what's causing it and will investigate at the first opportunity I have. Dcoetzee 02:06, 17 April 2012 (UTC)

A kitten for you!

Thx for the revision! You know I struggle with English sometimes. Reads way better now for clarity!

sonia (talk) 02:05, 17 April 2012 (UTC)

Glad to help. :-) Dcoetzee 02:06, 17 April 2012 (UTC)

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Educational peer reviews

Hi Derrick. We now have a starter guideline at Wikipedia:WikiProject Academical Village#Educational peer review, and there are a few more examples of fulfilled requests now too.--Pharos (talk) 17:21, 20 April 2012 (UTC)

Great, thanks for the added guidance. Dcoetzee 18:19, 20 April 2012 (UTC)

ENB

Thanks for the responses, and I'm sorry about this; I was responding to the irony of WMF staff complaining about the board (already, when it's not even busy), while Nikkimaria does all the urgent work anyway, while another editor succumbed to logic by editcountitis. Add to that staffers aggressively moving posts to talk on the very first day, and one wonders what one can ask on that board and whether we're all working for the same goals. Anyway, I do appreciate the responses. Regards, SandyGeorgia (Talk) 08:06, 24 April 2012 (UTC)

Oh dear. I told them not to move posts to talk. I'll put that one back. I do agree that edit count is a very rough proxy for level of participation, but it is clear that most threads are started by you and a lot of text content on the board is generated by you. I think this is okay as long as you're being constructive, but please try to stick to specific criticism/suggestions for the program and requests for assistance, and avoid repeating criticisms you've already explained before recently in other threads, even if they have not yet been addressed - we don't forget that quickly. Dcoetzee 20:24, 24 April 2012 (UTC)

No need to put it back, and the fellow who has editcountitis would have been wiser to note the number of threads started by me, which is a better rubric. I make boatloads of typos, and with my eyesight, can never see them until after the fact. Then, perhaps a more positive discussion about the threads I've started might revolve around what is the role of WMF/OAs and how can that be improved, and what is going on in these psych courses that the effect is so dramatic, how we can improve the content and the editing experience for all, and how we can minimize the dramatic not-so-positive effect on articles and established editors. For now, I'm still trying to figure out how the board is to be used, and the heavy-handed start by staffers was sub-optimal. "We don't forget that quickly"-- who is we? :) :) Good, maybe "we" will remember that I've been trying to get some attention on these matters for over a year, and having at least a board where I can bring issues now so they aren't all my problem to solve could be nice ... as long as it doesn't turn into a heavy-handed attempt to cover up issues. It's interesting that issues are viewed as "criticisms" ... as if we're on opposite sides of a battlefield, when the common goal should be improved articles and happy editors. Regards, SandyGeorgia (Talk) 20:58, 24 April 2012 (UTC)

I don't mean the term "criticism" as a pejorative, constructive criticism of the program is valuable and can be conducted by anyone whether they are in the program or not (I've criticised the program myself on a number of occasions). As for we, I mean everyone reading the board - I understand your frustration, but once a general, long-term issue is raised it can take time to formulate solutions and address it and reiterating the issue with no new information doesn't help. Dcoetzee 21:05, 24 April 2012 (UTC)

Gotcha. Except I seem to be chasing my tail with some passive-aggressive looking non-responses causing us to go in circles, which causes me to have to restate things over and over. :) Oh well, things will get better-- they sometimes do! Thanks for the effort, SandyGeorgia (Talk) 21:18, 24 April 2012 (UTC)

Follow user note?

It would be really helpful if we could add a note when we follow a user to help remember why we are following them. Jojalozzo 01:16, 27 April 2012 (UTC)

Thanks for the suggestion! This is easy to do but I have to think of how it should be displayed - maybe some kind of pop up when you hover over the name? I'm not sure. Another potentially more useful feature is the ability to categorize users, e.g. vandals, friends, students, etc. Dcoetzee 03:53, 7 May 2012 (UTC)

Ping

Would you join me on IRC in #ambassadors when you have a free minute? Pine^(talk) 21:01, 29 April 2012 (UTC)

Sorry I missed you, been pretty busy. I'll take a look at your draft when I get a chance. Dcoetzee 03:53, 7 May 2012 (UTC)

A little treat for you :D

Enjoy a Virtual Meal on the Pesky Express. (Guaranteed calorie-free!) personalized WikiLove by Penyulap

Just because; long time no speak, and all that. Pesky (talk) 22:16, 29 April 2012 (UTC)

Yum! Thank you, I appreciate it :-) I hope you're doing well! Dcoetzee 22:19, 29 April 2012 (UTC)

"Oooh, mustn't grumble, mustn't grumble ..." lol! Things could be better. They could also be so much worse, heh! Pesky (talk) 22:21, 29 April 2012 (UTC)

Persondata-o-matic

For some reason the Windows .exe will not allow me to log in and will crash on my Windows 7 system. Any ideas? ChrisGualtieri (talk) 06:52, 30 April 2012 (UTC)

I've logged in the past just fine on Windows 7 and I can't now. Wikipedia has been experiencing extreme slowdowns this past week... takes me 45-60 seconds to load or save a page. I'm currently logged in with AWB, but when I try and start a new AWB, it hangs on the login. So, I have a feeling Wiki problems are the cause. Bgwhite (talk) 07:28, 30 April 2012 (UTC)

Ah, I just downloaded it and was kinda nervous that it wasn't loading. AWB was very slow to the point of being useless. ChrisGualtieri (talk) 07:32, 30 April 2012 (UTC)

Oops, probably a timeout exception. I've never tested running it during database problems like the current ones. Try it again once they've cleared up and let me know if you have any further issues. Dcoetzee 09:41, 30 April 2012 (UTC)

Still not working, had it load late last night after several minutes, but by then I did not have time to use it. Guess I'll keep trying. ChrisGualtieri (talk) 14:41, 30 April 2012 (UTC)

If you have only tried AWB in the past 10 days or so, then Persondata-o-matic will not be much of an improvement. Everything has been slow. AWB was very fast, but now it's taking 30-60 to load or save a page. There also has been timeout exceptions when trying to save pages. Bgwhite (talk) 19:00, 30 April 2012 (UTC)

As long as it is recognized, I got to try the Persondata-o-matic, works properly, but I guess it is Wikipedia issues. I've been using AWB during this window so the AWB slowness seemed to be natural to me, was not aware this was an ongoing problem. The Persondata-o-matic seems to suffer greatly, more so than AWB. ChrisGualtieri (talk) 04:33, 1 May 2012 (UTC)

Still won't work, had it work for a brief time, keeps crashing. ChrisGualtieri (talk) 15:56, 6 May 2012 (UTC)

I'll give it a try soon, might be an issue with the new Mediawiki version or something. Dcoetzee 02:59, 7 May 2012 (UTC)

I wouldn't doubt that is because of a Mediawiki update. Every time they update, a gadget or script I use breaks. FYI... they did another update yesterday. Oh joy. Bgwhite (talk) 05:53, 9 May 2012 (UTC)

Fun... still not working here. Anyone been able to get it to run since update? I've had limited time to use it because it crashes out. ChrisGualtieri (talk) 07:10, 9 May 2012 (UTC)

I think its broken. Anyone have it working? I really want to clear the backlog, but it is so slow with my AWB and makes my eyes go crazy. This tool really helped the process. ChrisGualtieri (talk) 17:12, 26 May 2012 (UTC)

Callous Unemotional Traits feedback

Hi there, I wanted to respond to your feedback on the article my class did on Callous and unemotional traits. I am aware of the Wikipedia education projects initiative, and used several of the materials available from those pages to come up with my class assignment. While I recognize that the product of our work is slightly different than some of the ideas suggested in the literature, I felt that this was a good opportunity to create a page on a topic that was surprisingly ignored on wikipedia, and to teach my students about communicating scientific information. In terms of the single user name, I had the students create their own wiki-style pages in groups and then fact-check the work of other groups to teach them the value of peer reviewing someone's interpretation of an article. I kept this separate from posting to wikipedia, as it would become difficult (for grading purposes) to monitor the actions of each student separately, and to allow them to anonymously review each others work. As the class is now finished, I don't believe any of them will be making further edits to the article. I tried to be careful to omit anything that appeared to be a copyright violation or plagiarism (only a few questionable phrasings), but if anything needs to be removed or edited, I can be contacted, or other authors can certainly revise as necessary. If I create a similar assignment in a future course, I will be sure to have students create their own accounts in order to better facilitate the editing and revision process, as well as potentially utilize the resources available from wikipedia.

As for the class itself, it was was a seminar course discussing neurodevelopmental disorders taught at Georgetown University. The material covered typical cognitive neurodevelopment and an array of well-known neurodevelopmental disorders including autism, callous and unemotional traits, schizophrenia, and ADHD. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sperrycogpsych (talk • contribs) 04:27, 1 May 2012 (UTC)

Responded at User talk:Sperrycogpsych. Dcoetzee 03:40, 7 May 2012 (UTC)

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References

Hi Derek, I pasted in Jacqueline and my work into the Habitat Conservation Plan article but am unable to figure out how to create a reference list. We have our references cited within the body of the article but there are duplicate references that I haven't addressed still. What is the next step in getting a list of our references and assigning the same reference number to the same references?

Also, there are links to some Wiki articles (such as Candidate Conservation Agreements) that when I [[ ]] them, I get an error even though they do exist. How do I fix this?

Thanks! HeatherHmocabee (talk) 21:04, 4 May 2012 (UTC)

Responded at User talk:Jamccrory/sandbox. Dcoetzee 03:40, 7 May 2012 (UTC)

Yes, sorry, I meant to tell you that I figured the multiple references out. How do we merge the articles? Great! We'd appreciate you looking at our article to make sure there isn't anything blatantly wrong with it. Thanks!Hmocabee (talk) 15:08, 7 May 2012 (UTC)

Responded at User talk:Jamccrory/sandbox again. Dcoetzee 21:56, 7 May 2012 (UTC)

Hi Derek, I was wondering if you could take a look at ours and if ok, you could help us move our article over the existing one. Thanks!Hmocabee (talk) 14:56, 10 May 2012 (UTC)

Follow user menu item not working

When I select "Follow/Unfollow user" a popup appears that says I am not logged into toolserver but I am pretty sure I am logged in. I can select "Followed users" and do not have to log in to view that page. Jojalozzo 02:55, 9 May 2012 (UTC)

Works fine today. Jojalozzo 01:19, 10 May 2012 (UTC)

Referencing and Article Status

Hi Derrick,

I am in Aaron Frank's Environmental Law class and my partner and I are still working through our topic. I had a couple quick questions... 1)If we have multiple sentences that use the same source, how do we do the referencing for this again? I know you had mentioned it in our class but when I tried the tag, it came out a little funny. 2)Would you also be able to give my sandbox a quick perusal to see how our article is shaping up so far?

Thanks for your help!

Yvette Ymauricia (talk) 05:37, 9 May 2012 (UTC)

Sorry for the slow response, I've briefly reviewed everyone's articles now! Dcoetzee 13:39, 12 May 2012 (UTC)

Need help moving content out of sandbox

Hi Derick,

I'm not sure if I properly moved the content out of my sandbox. Can you check to make sure? Thanks. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Nwatmore (talk • contribs) 06:24, 10 May 2012 (UTC)

I think I figured it out. Thanks. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Nwatmore (talk • contribs) 06:29, 10 May 2012 (UTC)

Hi Derrick! My partner and I attempted to move our page from the sandbox to the live space yesterday, but when we tried to search it on google, it doesn't appear. Will you check to see if we moved it correctly? It is the Environmental Defense v. Duke Energy page.

Thank you for the help!

Caitlin Chasercm (talk) 17:32, 10 May 2012 (UTC)

Hi Caitlin, you did great and moved the article successful, you just need to wait for Google to index new pages. It will help if there are some links to the page from other pages - feel free to add links anywhere relevant, I'll look for some too. Dcoetzee 10:52, 12 May 2012 (UTC)

Review of Lux v. Haggin

Hi Derrick, appreciate all of your time in supporting Aaron's Law Class at USF. I received your message on review of the Lux v. Haggin case. I actually jumped the gun a little bit and set my suggestions to the team via their talk page while the article was still in their sandbox. I did not edit the article only sent them my suggestion. I took a second look after it was moved to the main page and did not see anything needing change, but will take another look to see if there have been any changes or additions - Thanks again Bkkperkins (talk) 00:09, 13 May 2012 (UTC)

USF environmental law

Hey Derrick, I actually did my peer review of Save The Plastic Bag Coalition v. The City of Manhattan Beach when it was still in Bkkperkins sandbox. My comments were left in his sandbox talk page and were not moved when the article went live. varosauro

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wikipediaadventure

Hi Dcoetzee. My name is Haitham, I work with WMF on developing small Wikimedia projects. I am interested in localizing wikipediaadventure (which I understand that you are working on its development) into other languages to provide new users with an easy and attractive tool for learning how to contribute to Wikipedia. I wonder whether we can setup such a tool for other languages, or extend it to include more tutorials? Best wishes. Haithams (talk) 18:22, 23 May 2012 (UTC)

Hi Haithams, I really appreciate your interest. I am very interested in creating versions of it for other projects, but first it needs to be extended to include all the introductory tutorials in the original design, and to do some assessment. This will take some time. Is there a good time to follow up with you? Thanks! Dcoetzee 07:34, 3 June 2012 (UTC)

Comment Glad to hear that this is still in the works. I was wondering about this the other day. Pine^✉ 09:35, 3 June 2012 (UTC)

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Persondata-o-matic is broken

Persondata-o-matic will not work anymore, but if you could get it to work again I'd gladly do 10,000+ of the Persondata backlog because it is several times more efficient then working with AWB. It never worked after the Wiki update and just times out when I try to connect it. I really liked the program for the brief time I had it work. ChrisGualtieri (talk) 15:07, 2 June 2012 (UTC)

Hi Chris, this is due to the Mediawiki update breaking DotNetWikiBot. I'll get a new version out as soon as possible. Thanks for the reminder and sorry for the inconvenience! Dcoetzee 07:32, 3 June 2012 (UTC)

No problem, I have lots of other work to do on the side, how could you possibly known when an update breaks it anyways. Just wanted to remind you before I finish the typos off. ChrisGualtieri (talk) 18:00, 3 June 2012 (UTC)

Help :)

Dude, you seem to be a Wikipedia master, unfortunately I have no idea what I am doing :) I am battling to understand the problem here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cubit_Accounting - can you help? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 196.215.164.109 (talk) 05:40, 5 June 2012 (UTC)

Hi, as noted on the talk page there, the main thing missing is references. In order to prove that we're not just making stuff up, it's important to cite outside references that talk about the topic and why it's important. Please find some and then let me know if you need help adding them to the article. Dcoetzee 00:36, 6 June 2012 (UTC)

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question

hi dude just a quick question. should the quotation marks around songs be inside or outside the hyperlink?? this is really bugging me.also, how can i commit my real life identity in case someone steals my account?Happy monsoon day —Preceding undated comment added 00:54, 8 June 2012 (UTC)

Hi! I looked through Wikipedia:Manual of Style but did not locate a rule on whether quotation marks should be part of the hyperlinked text or not, as I think this case is unusual. I think either is acceptable as long as we're consistent. For how to commit your real life identity, please follow the directions at Template:User_committed_identity and let me know if you need help. Another way to commit your identity is to do as I have done and publish your PGP public key (see User:Dcoetzee/PGP_public_key), which you can later use to securely authenticate a message from yourself. Dcoetzee 04:34, 9 June 2012 (UTC)

awesome im on itHappy monsoon day 19:36, 10 June 2012 (UTC)

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May I ask a favor, please?

Hi Derrick. I'd like to ask a favor but first I wanted to thank you for contributing so much to enwp. I wanted to let you know how much I appreciate your dedication to our project and your focus on improving the operations here. I was certain that Wikipedia:Tool apprenticeship was going to succeed and you put a HUGE amount of effort in to it. There were a lot of people that felt it was a great idea, myself included. And since I'm here, I was wondering if you've ever thought of a fellowship? You are certainly qualified and I think you'd be a great help to the WMF.

Getting to the favor. I've recently asked Moonriddengirl for a bunch of deleted articles. Since you're listed at CAT:RESTORE, I was wondering if you could help because it's a huge bunch of articles (see discussion here). Anyhoo, thanks again for helping the community, its very much appreciated. All the best. 64.40.54.81 (talk) 16:49, 12 June 2012 (UTC)

Thanks for your kind words. The fellowships look interesting but I'm not sure if I'll have time to work on one any time soon - I'll keep it in mind. Your list isn't too long at this point, I'll do at least some of them and remove them from the page once complete. Keep in mind that some of these articles regard living people and you are solely responsible for ensuring that the restored article does not contain libel, which is often an issue for non-notable persons with limited references. Dcoetzee 18:48, 12 June 2012 (UTC)

Thanks. I really appreciate the help, Derrick.

"The fellowships look interesting but..." Yep, it's certainly a commitment. Thanks for keeping it in mind. You've been great to the community.

"Keep in mind that some of these articles regard living people..." Will do. If there are any BLP concerns, then the article can be skipped.

Thanks very much for all yor help. 64.40.54.100 (talk) 16:38, 13 June 2012 (UTC)

		The Shining Star Award
		There are certain people that make our community shine. These are kind and gracious souls that not only improve our encyclopedia, but they also help others with their generous support. Although their number is small, they shine so brightly that they make the whole project glow. Dcoetzee, you are certainly one of those shining stars and I am very grateful for the support you have given me. Thank you so very much for your help. 64.40.54.160 (talk) 22:01, 16 June 2012 (UTC)

Saturday - and we need your help!

San Francisco WikiWomen's Edit-a-Thon 2! See you there
	The San Francisco WikiWomen's Edit-a-Thon 2 is this Saturday at the Wikimedia Foundation! We look forward to hosting you! If you'd like to bring a family member or friend, please sign them up on the event page or Eventbrite! Also, don't forget to bring your laptop! And we also need your help! Check out the Etherpad to learn more! Please arrive as close 1 PM as you can. We'll see you Saturday!

Question about duplication detector

I found a section of Diaphragm pump that seems to have been copied, almost word for word, from a manufacturer's web page. The detector returned the result (3 words, 16 characters). What does that count mean? I see many more than 3 words duplicated. Thanks.Wikfr (talk) 23:07, 13 June 2012 (UTC)

Still need reviews for the Wikipedia Education Program research project

Hey, Derrick! If you have some time to review the quality of some articles, we're using the results for a really important research project that will help shape the future of the US/Canada Education Program. For a few projects, we're on a pretty tight timeline and are really eager to have many more of these articles reviewed over the next week. However, we think it's most useful to come from experienced Wikipedia editors.

I have gone through each class to prioritize for various projects, and everyone on the Education team at the Wikimedia Foundation would be extremely grateful if you could participate by reviewing a few articles ('pre' and 'post' versions). If we can rally a lot of editors to review one or two articles each day, we will be able to make the most use of this research for our tight timeline. As many of our Ambassadors have requested it, we are really eager to find out which classes have been successful according to the Wikipedian standard.

If you can spare some time, please check out these priority articles and give it a go. Even 1 or 2 a day would help immensely! Hope you're doing well. JMathewson (WMF) (talk) 02:10, 15 June 2012 (UTC)

Authority Control Integration

Hi, I've been researching the intersection of Wikipedia and Authority Control, and have just recently made a Village Pump Proposal to create a bot to expand the usage of a template. I've identified you as someone in the sphere of interest to this project and would appreciate your input at the Village Pump. Thanks, Maximiliankleinoclc (talk) 18:44, 18 June 2012 (UTC)

Thank you for attending the second SF WikiWomen's Edit-a-thon

	Great work!
	Dcoetzee, thanks so much for attending the edit-a-thon. You were rocking it - lending a hand to the newish editor's and taking photos (can't wait to see them!). Myself and San Francisco's own Lillie Hitchcock Coit thank you =) Sarah (talk) 21:14, 18 June 2012 (UTC)

Thanks for the thank you, Sarah. :-) Unfortunately I didn't really dedicate enough time to taking photos so they all turned out fairly awful, might be able to choose one or two decent ones, but I hope to get better ones at the next such event. Dcoetzee 22:29, 18 June 2012 (UTC)

SF Article Review Party! Fun times (and food) for all.

Hi, Derrick! As I told you last Saturday, the Education Program team is hosting an Article Review Party at the SF Wikimedia Foundation office on Sunday, June 24th (from 11ish–3ish). We'll provide food, drinks, music, and laughter. You just provide your brilliant mind and acute eye for reviewing articles. If you can spare an hour or two, please sign up and join us on this mirthful occasion. Hope to see you there! JMathewson (WMF) (talk) 18:23, 19 June 2012 (UTC)

The botany class is back

Derrick,

It looks like another semester of the botany class is back and posting new articles. I had an idea to deal with the privacy issue that came up last time. Since the botany articles generally don't get very widespread attention (alas), we could strip off the identifying information from the list of students, list me as contact, and I can relay feedback to the TA. Sound like a plan? I'd like to know more about the parameters of the assignment, which has been producing fairly decent material, but the TA didn't sound very...engaged, last time. Choess (talk) 18:03, 4 July 2012 (UTC)

Hi Choess, that sounds like a good idea, but I suggest you first talk to the instructor about it. I'm sure they would be happy to have a volunteer Wikipedian helping out their course. Make sure you explain it in terms of how it would benefit their students. Dcoetzee 22:40, 4 July 2012 (UTC)

The Wikipedia Adventure

Hi Dcoetzee, what is the timeline for work on The Wikipedia Adventure? Pine^✉ 08:26, 5 July 2012 (UTC)

Are your ears burning?

[5] :) Seriously, every day I get to volunteer, I have reason to be grateful for you. --Moonriddengirl ^(talk) 12:57, 5 July 2012 (UTC)

I appreciate it a lot :-) I'm glad it's helpful and hope to do more to help in the future. It's tragic though, that an unwatched article can face such dramatic degradation with no one to intervene on the poor soul's behalf. Perhaps a tool could be created to help monitor such things... Dcoetzee 04:11, 6 July 2012 (UTC)

Mass bot-generated feedback cheats

AFT5 allows everyone to post feedback without proving that they are human. This gives a possibility of mass bot feedback cheats. Could you consider adding a CAPTCHA check, at least for IPs? Could you also think about blocking blank feedback comments? --Николай95 (talk) 06:48, 21 July 2012 (UTC)

Hi, I'm not a developer on AFT5. I think this concern is reasonable though. Please visit Wikipedia_talk:Article_Feedback_Tool/Version_5. Dcoetzee 07:42, 21 July 2012 (UTC)

Followed users working?

I have not seen any updates to followed users for about a week. Is the server working ok? Jojalozzo 03:36, 22 July 2012 (UTC)

This is probably Toolserver replication lag. See [6] for current stats. Sorry about that, it'll hopefully be fixed soon! Dcoetzee 08:36, 22 July 2012 (UTC)

I don't understand how those stats would explain no updates since July 14. Are you able to make sense of it? Jojalozzo 16:02, 24 July 2012 (UTC)

Yup, to clarify, it says the current replication lag is 700,000 seconds, or about 8.1 days. July 24 minus 8 days is July 16, so about right. Dcoetzee 06:01, 25 July 2012 (UTC)

Wikicommons

Please check your Wikicommons account for the very serious message--and request--I left you regarding certain images from archaeowiki. Thank You and Goodnight from Canada, --Leoboudv (talk) 08:49, 22 July 2012 (UTC)

EduWiki Conference 5-6 September in Leicester, UK

I am writing to you as you have signed up to the Education Meetup at Wikimania 2012 and perhaps are interested in how Wikipedia links to education. Wikimedia UK is now running a education related event that may be of interest to you: the EduWiki Conference on 5-6 September in Leicester. This event will be looking at Wikipedia and related charitable projects in terms of educational practice, including good faith collaboration, open review, and global participation. It's a chance to talk about innovative work in your institution or online community, and shape the future of Wikimedia UK's work in this area!

The conference will be of interest to educators, scholarly societies members, contributors to Wikipedia and other open education projects, and students.

For details please visit the UK Chapter Wiki.

Please feel welcome to register or promote within your network.

Thank you, Daria Cybulska (talk) 16:27, 25 July 2012 (UTC)