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Proposed deletion of Thirumurugan Gandhi

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Hi CuCl2, and thanks for your message. The article has not been deleted, it has been proposed to be deleted. Wikipedia has a very strong policy about biographies of living people. I've searched for Thirumurugan Gandhi and can find very little about him and/or the "May 17 movement" in English, Tamil, or Sinhala. Could you possibly add more references from reliable sources?
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Citation needed tags

...are never vandalism. There is never any case, whatsoever, in which specific statistical claims do not need citations. Ever. The vast majority of facts on Wikipedia need citations, but there is no doubt that statistical claims need them. Now, I agree that Blacknight shouldn't be moving the sections of the article around, but there is nothing wrong with them adding cn tags; you removing them would be considered disruptive. I have re-added the tag, in fact, adding more.

In addition, please do re-read WP:VANDAL; you will see that content disputes are not vandalism, which only refers to actions specifically designed to make WP worse. Calling good faith edits vandalism can be considered a personal attack, so you should not do so. Qwyrxian (talk) 13:56, 30 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Andaman Express

Hello, Thank you for creating the article Andaman Express. However, the article lacks citations and references. Please add the same. Milesandkilometrestogo (talk) 17:37, 30 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Sources

Just in case you missed the edit summary, you're wrong, again. Adding unreliable sources is always, in every situation, a correct reason for reverting. You cannot add sources that do not meet WP:RS. There really is nothing to "discuss" on the talk page. I suppose, if you want, you can try to argue that those sources are actually reliable...but the burden to do so always rests on the person trying to add the sources. Feel free to make some argument why those sources meet WP:RS...and we can even take the matter to WP:RSN...but you should probably re-read the guideline first, as it should be pretty obvious why they fail. Qwyrxian (talk) 06:00, 31 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I went over each of the sources on my talk page; after review, 3 are absolutely non-RS, but 1 is good. Qwyrxian (talk) 22:58, 31 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

March 2013

Your recent editing history at Bodhidharma shows that you are currently engaged in an edit war. Being involved in an edit war can result in your being blocked from editing—especially if you violate the three-revert rule, which states that an editor must not perform more than three reverts on a single page within a 24-hour period. Undoing another editor's work—whether in whole or in part, whether involving the same or different material each time—counts as a revert. Also keep in mind that while violating the three-revert rule often leads to a block, you can still be blocked for edit warring—even if you don't violate the three-revert rule—should your behavior indicate that you intend to continue reverting repeatedly.

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Help

Sorry to see that you appear to be involved in disputes so early in your Wikicareer.This is a tough neighborhood where you are editing.You can discuss this in Teahouse and they will guide you in a neutral way or here India noticeboard]. Please do not keep reverting leave it for now .Please let me know if you want any help or reference.Pharaoh of the Wizards (talk) 16:18, 31 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Yes before you do more edits, please ask around as to what you want to do and how to follow rules. This is a volunteer project but we have tobe humble enough to realize that rules are there to protect the project. I am willing to help as well. Kanatonian (talk) 16:54, 31 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you for the message. If you go through my edit profile, you'd see I did not intend to go on a revert war in any incidence. Anyways now I will only edit after reaching a consensus in the talk page. I very much understand the rules that we have here, and I most intend to be sincere to them all. I approach to be constructive and clear with my edits, thats all. And I' am always open to suggestions and your welcome to point my mistakes out if I have committed some. Thank you.--CuCl2 01:51, 1 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Don't get involved in too many articles at once. Please add content with reference at Tamil Buddhism which I created some time back. If someone reverts the sourced content, please mention on the talk page.15:57, 2 April 2013 (UTC)Shivaass (talk)

Edit warring

Copperchloride, just two days ago you said you will not get involved in edit warring and to "only edit after reaching a consensus in the talk page". Contrary to your promise, I see only two edits to a single article talk page during the past two days ([1] & [2]), but you have made several reversions today without any attempt at discussion including [3], [4] & [5]. You are clearly involved in a content dispute on this topic, so you shouldn't go around reverting like this. You have been warned about this by three other editors on this page including an admin. Technically, I should block you at this point for edit warring. The reason I'm not doing that is because I only looked into this matter at the request of another editor (who is one of the editors who you have disagreed with), and I don't want to give you the false impression that I'm taking sides. I'm not going to get involved in the content dispute; I don't have the time to mediate that. My concern is the continued edit warring. If you feel you cannot reach consensus by discussing among yourselves, consider dispute resolution. However, please consider this a final warning; if you continue to edit war, you will be blocked or banned from editing these articles. Chamal T•C 18:03, 3 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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Don't do it.--obi2canibetalk contr 15:58, 6 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Well, at this point I'd like to clarify that I always am open for resolving disputes through dialogue. But the reason for recklessly reverting is the constant irritation I get from the lame attitude these ill-trained Sri Lankan editors show. They bump into any of my edits from nowhere, and then remove/alter everything what I've stated and what is instated already quoting a single line in the lead or so. I have no intention of warring with these people, but consider my reverts it is not cause of disagreement or anything, it is only because these simpletons vandalize a great deal of an article without being able to even communicate what disagreements they have or what wrong does my additions have. If User:Blackknight12 and User:SriSuren's edits go under the scanner, you'll realize my point all along. Every edit/view anybody makes in contradiction with their opinion, they resort to reckless reverting and POV pushing finally trying to create an environment to a point where the others can totally make no contribution to the article. I've just had enough of all my work never getting appreciated. And the reason you may notice I don't go to talk pages more often is I get ignored nor the ill-trained guys barely make sense into them. You may be fully aware of how I get over the edge, perhaps why you have actually bothered to drop in a comment, but you must know the underlying disputes are not ordinary even though my squabbles look spectacularly lame. Thanks nonetheless.--CuCl2 08:23, 7 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]
I sympathise, I have been in similar situations many times but edit warring always ends the same way - block. I have seen far too many editors getting blocked because they don't know when to stop. The first step to resolving a dispute is to discuss with the other editor(s). You have already done this. If the dispute is still not resolved try WP:DRN. And if that doesn't work, walk away. Getting blocked undoes all the good work you've done. And please remember Wikipedia's three core content polices - WP:NPOV, WP:V, WP:OR - if you follow these the Wikipedia community will always support you.--obi2canibetalk contr 14:42, 7 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Its only sheer indiscipline from this lot that is the cause for this. Either they don't want to commence dialogue, or push their POV even in the Talk Pages and when both fail they start sneaking on my edits all over or make cock and bull story about me 'hindering' their 'constructive' vandalism. Anyways, any significant case from here on, I do certainly see ANI and DRN as the only scope for solution as no reasoning can ever do with the cheap attitude they present here. Thank you again, I will do try to exercise more discretion from here on. :) --CuCl2 16:51, 7 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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Uh, you know it's supposed to be "chloride", right? I suggest you either a) make a request to have your username changed, or b) put up a notice on your userpage that says "yes, I know it's supposed to be 'chloride'; I spelled it this way deliberately". DS (talk) 13:48, 13 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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Please stop your disruptive editing, as you did at Tamilakam. Your edits have been reverted or removed.

Do not continue to make edits that appear disruptive until the dispute is resolved through consensus. Continuing to edit disruptively may result in your being blocked from editing. You've been warned several times before to discuss you're making edits on the boundaries etc; the thread is there on the Talk Page, with contributions by several editors; you're the only one eluding this discussion. Next stop is ANI. Joshua Jonathan -Let's talk! 09:33, 21 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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Thanks for your appreciation. I think you also should have a look at my edits at Indian religions, for example [7]. Greetings, Joshua Jonathan -Let's talk! 07:54, 24 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Your the most welcome. I'm less knowledgeable on religion-related articles, especially the Vedic Hinduism. I'm more interested in linguistic and cultural evolution that has taken place over the years, in South Asia and China; also somewhat involved in political and geographical articles. Anyway its always nice to have a non-Indian taking interest(While Majority of us do not) in South Asian religions and affinities, it'll be sometimes bizarre, certain stuff as you come across them, what we do and used to do. --CuCl2 (talk . contr . mail) 12:12, 24 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]
I try to be fair in my edits. So, I'm critical about Tamil nationalism, but I'm also critical about Neo-Vedantins who try to erase the influence of Dravidian culture. And yes, editing on India-related articles is quite different from Buddhism-related articles. Muuuuuuuuuuuuch more disputes... Greetings, Joshua Jonathan -Let's talk! 16:14, 24 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]
'Tamil Nationalism' is a matter of how you perceive it. We in mainland India do not care for even studying the traditional dialects properly cause we have equality and our rights as a population have been protected with. This often tends to be the thumb rule for all ethnic groups here, except for probably the Kashmirirs and the North-Eastern population who are an religious and ethnic minority(whose rights have been infringed in the past). But in Sri Lanka, as a unitary state, Tamils as a community was systematically defranchised and destroyed to the extent of a genocide that has totally blacked us out on our own lands we have inhabited since time unknown. Neo-Vedantins are same as the Hindi chauvinists and the pro-Sri Lankan editors I find here, whose greater motives would lie upon disempowering Tamils and other minorities(and their culture, history, tradition and cause) to the wider masses. Anyhow, wish you Good luck with your edits, not many actually tend to be interested. We have had great civilizations and regal ancestries only to become uncivilized,corrupt and immoral standing where we are today while progress and development rest upon the other hand.Greetings.--CuCl2 (talk . contr . mail) 18:44, 24 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

3 revert rule and your disruptive behaviour and Chelvadurai Manogaran and Vatteluttu and Kuccaveli inscription

On what grounds are you reverting my edit?

What are the credentials of Chelvadurai Manogaran? Is he an epigraphist or a linguist for his political pamphlet called "Untold story of ancient Tamils in Sri Lanka" to be used as a reference for a this and not the one given in Epigraphica Zeylanica Epigraphica Zeylanica III; pp. 158 - 163? Manogaran is also claiming that the Brahmi script used all over India is derived from Vatteluttu, which is not acceptable, as Vatteluttu first apears around the 5th-6th century (See Mahadevan Tamil Epigraphy for example). Can this script be used to write Sanskrit? Please learn some basics before reverting and editing these articles.

While the reference was clearly given in my previous edit summary at 22:36, 23 July 2013 - "Monogaran is not a reliable source for this. This inscription is in Sanskrit. See Epigraphica Zeylanica III 158 - 163. Vatteluttu cannot be used for Sanskrit".

You reverted my edit with this summary " Oh did you? I didn't see it in SOURCES. like the one you removed. Show some discretion please" at 14:22, 24 July 2013

What exactly do u want references for, when this inscription is not in Vatteluttu and is not even Tamil!! What does this inscription have to do with this article at all? I have given the reference in my edit summary for the reason to remove it. Manogaran is not an epigraphist or a linguist or an historian of any kind to accept his deciphering over the one given in my reference. Does any known epigraphist cite him even? WP:RELY, WP:SCHOLARSHIP

This is what Edward Müller writes about the Kuccaveli inscription in his "Ancient Inscriptions in Ceylon":

"Kucchawelli, 22 miles north of Trincomalee, on the sea side. There is a solitary rock inscription close to the sea which bears a fragment of an inscription in the characters of the seveth century. The country is now inhabited almost exclusively by Tamils, but that time must have been Sinhalese, as we can see not from this incription but also from the remains of a buddhist temple found at at Nattana kovil, about three miles west Nilawelli (8 miles from Trincomalee), and close to the bund of the Periyankulam tank. One or two other places north of Kuccawelli which are also said to contain buddistical remains, I was unfortunately not able to visit".

This is a screenshot of the text and reading from Epigraphica Zeylanica, Vol III. Does it sound Tamil?

Political pamplets like the one written by Manogaran is hardly a reliable source for this. If u revert my edit again, without giving references from an acknowledged scholar in the subject matter, I'll take this to ANI, because this is not the only instance you keep reverting without reason. You are deliberating trying to prevent information getting in, when u know that this Manogaran character is not a scholar in the field, and you have been given references as to why Manoharan's claims have no scholarly backing. You already have an issue at ANI. Your editing pattern and the arguments you throw around in each and every comment you make, without any scholarly backing, is distrupting articles getting developed. The latest of your absurd statements is:

"it is well and widely known Sanksrit borrowed its fundamental script and grammar from Tamil language"

I am posting this here, as a warning as its required by wikipolicies that the editor has to be warned about breaking the 3 revert rule. So, please give references from a third party scholar in the field that this inscription is in Vatelluttu, without throwing in irrelvant absurd claims, such as the above absurd one about Sanskrit. SriSuren (talk) 21:53, 24 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Stop your disruptive editing and abuse of warning templates

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Please stop your disruptive editing. WP:DISRUPT. Do not revert without reason (WP:RV) and do not add fake references to articles to support your fake claims and then keep on reverting, as you did in the Maldives article. Also do not abuse the warning templates.

Please adhere by guidelines for citing, and add only references relevant to the sentence immediately preceding the point at which your are inserting the citation. This reference of a list of names does not support this sentence - "None of these names is mentioned in any literature, but classical Sanskrit texts dating back to the Vedic period mention the "Hundred Thousand Islands" (Lakshadweepa), a generic name which would include not only the Maldives, but also the Laccadives, Aminidivi Islands, Minicoy and the Chagos island groups.". A list of names does not support the above sentence. (But its a good link for information on present day names for Maldives in different languages.(WP:CITE).

Your reference is fake as I have proven with links to the book in your warning to me at my talk page.

You are exibiting an extreme case of disruptive editing. You give fake references and revert and ask other editors to prove it wrong, knowing very well that the reference is fake, and constantly avoid adhering to proper citing according to the citing guidelines, as you have done in other articles and talk pages too. This is all disrupting editing and I soon will report you at ANI, since it doesn't seem that you are going to change your behaviour. SriSuren (talk) 09:06, 27 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

To CopperChloride, You had deleted this warning and the my comments. You cannot do it, since it is part of an ongoing dispute, which is also discussed in my talkpage. Whether this is justified or not is not for you to judge, but has to be handled by other editors/Administrators. SriSuren (talk) 10:50, 27 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Please move it to the article's talk page(we cannot get a third opinion over here) and put forth your views.--CuCl2 (talk . contr . mail) 11:24, 27 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]
What views do you need more? Views and analysis of published sources, is just original research, and what you are trying is to get your own original research into the article, by using the talkpage, as you have been doing especially in the article Tamilakam for sometime now. WP:SYNTHESIS, WP:STICKTOSOURCE Why can't you simply give a reference? And really, you alright? I mean, look at what you have written there? Its an article talkpage, not ANI or another noticeboard to complain about editors. I was looking forward to references and suggestions as to how to improve that section....
Well, anyway that post of yours is nothing but a total admission that you didn't have references for the content you added and that your actual intention is to give the impression that the word Maladvipa is derived from Tamil or Malayalam or that Tamil/Malayalam has something to do with the derivation.
What you need is a reference which says that Maladvipa is derived from Tamil and/or Malayalam (one would do since Tamil and Malayalam are closely related), and if you do not have that reference you must not add that sentence in the section about the derivation of the word Maladvipa, since the source you keep adding does not have a single occurance of Tamil or Malayalam in it, which you have already admitted, and if you do not have a reliable source, please do not disrupt Wikipedia, with any more commotions, and please delete the unreferenced content immediately as you yourself have admitted that it is not in the source.
I have left a detailed explanation in there and also a short note on my talkpage, in case of the need for future reference. SriSuren (talk) 07:26, 28 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]
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