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Please use my talk page rather than emailing me.

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Amongst

Hello Amatulic. I was rather surprised to see you removing "amongst" from articles with the rationale that it is archaic. Whilst it might not be commonly used in the US, it's still commonly used in the UK, and per WP:ENGVAR, is entirely appropriate. See recent usages from the BBC to confirm.[1][2][3] Cheers, Number 57 14:27, 26 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Just about every UK style guide recommends against it. For further information, see the while article. This is not an ENGVAR issue, as the word is used on both sides of the pond. It's simply correcting awkward grammar. ~Amatulić (talk) 14:30, 26 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Unless our own style guide recommends against it, I don't see the relevance of what others do. It's still widely used and perfectly acceptable. It is definitely not "awkward grammar", although I'd be interested to hear why you think it is. Number 57 14:32, 26 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Phrases like "situated amongst a region" (which I had corrected when you replied just now) is awkward and incorrect regardless of whether "among" or "amongst" is used. Furthermore, whilst the word is commonly used on both sides of the Atlantic, and therefore not an ENGVAR issue, it is also widely considered as archaic and unnecessary by professional publications on both sides. The fact that the Wikipedia style guide fails to address the topic is not a reason to leave it alone. The Wikipedia style guide also fails to address many common grammatical errors and words specifically (such as "ain't"), so does that mean we should just ignore them? ~Amatulić (talk) 14:43, 26 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, of course that's awkward, but it's because the wrong word was used (among would be equally inappropriate). I also disagree that it's "widely" considered archaic. If the BBC uses it, it's a fairly strong indicator that it's normal. Number 57 14:51, 26 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]
The BBC has no consistency, using while/whilst and among/amongst with equal frequency. The UK style guides that do address these words universally appear to consider them archaic. The BBC does have its own style guide, and while it does not address the words "amongst" or "whilst" specifically, there is no occurrence of the word "amongst" in that guide, only "among",[4] which may not mean anything except perhaps as an indicator to what the BBC considers "normal" without actually being prescriptive like other guides. ~Amatulić (talk) 15:05, 26 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Enterprise Architect (Software) Deletion

Just following up for further advice, your comment on the https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Requests_for_undeletion/Archive_138#Enterprise_Architect_.28software.29

I have contacted Tom Morris (talk) and did receive an initial response, but no follow up (over several weeks). You mentioned taking some other action, but I am a little lost as to whether to proceed with a request for un-deletion. I would appreciate any insight on the path to proceed on. Leggattst (talk) — Preceding undated comment added 05:32, 30 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

The "other action" is to open a case at Wikipedia:Deletion review, to allow the community to determine whether the administrator's deletion decision was proper in view of the arguments given in the AFD and the sources given in the article. The article's revision history would be restored for the purpose of discussion, too. ~Amatulić (talk) 14:21, 30 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]


Much appreciated. I will follow up on this. Leggattst (talk) — Preceding undated comment added 00:44, 1 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Re. David Hedlund

Hello. I noticed your message to him on his talk page, so I thought I'd let you know that he already has copied his entire article (45K bytes of it) to his talk page, to continue editing there. Which IMHO is inappropriate use of the talk page for someone who has been indef blocked. Thomas.W talk 20:31, 1 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Yeah, he did that before I warned him about it. I just removed it. ~Amatulić (talk) 20:34, 1 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Articles for creation/Eric Fisher

Hi Amatulic, You have recently informed me that I will not receive my article back until I change my username, however I am new to this site and am unsure of how to do so. Will you please inform me of the steps I need to take in order to change that? Thanks so much! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Fisherarch (talkcontribs) 14:23, 2 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]

(talk page stalker) WP:UNC the panda ₯’ 14:43, 2 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]
More specifically, go to WP:CHU/Simple and make a request there. ~Amatulić (talk) 14:46, 2 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]

I noticed you didn't create an entry for this page's copyright issues at Wikipedia:Copyright problems#:Paranjoy Guha Thakurta, which left me kind of confused. It's a moot point now, I reviewed the editor's string of edits, found enough evidence of a copyvio to warrant action, reverted back to the last non-copyvio version, and put a {{copyvio-revdel}} template at the top. Hopefully an uninvolved administrator will review it soon. davidwr/(talk)/(contribs) 00:15, 3 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]

I thought the duplication detector report was enough. It was similar to earlier revisions of the article that had been deleted in accordance with WP:CSD#G12, but I didn't renominate as G12 because I felt there was sufficient original material in the article. ~Amatulić (talk) 00:44, 3 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]
The template that you put on the article specifically linked to the (non-existent) discussion. The discussion has to be started by the person who applies the template. In any case, it's a moot point for this particular article. davidwr/(talk)/(contribs) 01:35, 6 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]

User:Heather handpicked/The Handpicked Collection, a page you substantially contributed to, has been nominated for deletion. Your opinions on the matter are welcome; please participate in the discussion by adding your comments at Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/User:Heather handpicked/The Handpicked Collection and please be sure to sign your comments with four tildes (~~~~). You are free to edit the content of User:Heather handpicked/The Handpicked Collection during the discussion but should not remove the miscellany for deletion template from the top of the page; such a removal will not end the deletion discussion. Thank you. Whpq (talk) 17:41, 7 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Deletion of Avi Nir

Hi,

Just wanted to know the reason behind the deletion of the page I have created for Mr. Avi Nir, the CEO of Keshet Media Group. Avi Nir, is a very well known TV executive, heading Israels Keshet Broadcasting for the past 12 years, Mako and Keshet International, the international production and distribution arm of Keshet Media Group. Nir, is in charge of very well known local and international shows like Hatufim (Prisoners of War) that has become Homeland, he is also executive producer on Homeland, which granted him a prime time emmy award. He was named Israeli cloture most influential person. As a leading international TV executive and since Keshet International expanded globally with shows like Rising Star, Allegiance, Homeland and many more and formed international production outposts this profile and the profile of Keshet Media Group and Keshet International are highly relevant to understand where many shows originated from and produced by, who this company is and who its top executives are . Nir also serves as Executive Producer on all the US productions that originated from Keshet (over 10)

we made sure we back up everything with relevant links to media sources.

Im a director at Keshet International and we updated the last profile. As a person who uses Wikipedia constantly as a reliable and trusted source of information- i understand and appreciate the importance of the quality of the information. im writing you, since i would like to upload an informative and respectable profile as i imagined we did I wouldn't like to upload our profiles again without getting the inputs from the person who deleted it first on the content and the updating form.

Your response would be highly appreciated

Many thanks in advance

Limor - Keshet International

91.240.235.225 (talk) 09:17, 8 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Hi, none of that matters. What matters right now is that you are blocked, and you are evading the block by continuing to participate without logging in. The only page you are allowed to edit is your user talk page.
Please read Wikipedia:Conflict of interest, because if you are associated with Avi Nir, you should not be writing about it. Articles written by people with a conflict of interest are not written from a neutral point of view, and are often deleted as unambiguously promotional.
Your first priority is to get your account unblocked. Do not attempt to create other accounts. You have one account, and you must use it. At this moment, you cannot do anything else until it is unblocked and renamed. Follow the instructions in your block notice, and be sure to read all the links in it.
The article was most recently deleted due to promotional tone and copyright violations. Wikipedia cannot re-publish material that has already been published elsewhere. ~Amatulić (talk) 13:57, 8 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Amatulic, I have been nothing but WP:CIVIL and to the point.

It is the other editors (like Dave S and many more) that are uncivil. They repeatedly mischaracterize my position and the talk page is full of invective toward me, every time I say something. WP:AGF does not mean we're chumps. And these people are not intellectually honest. It is completely clear on that talk page and how this article has been edited and maintained for at least 8 years. What I wrote is completely legit. Censoring it is not. 71.161.194.233 (talk) 04:23, 10 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]

While I personally agreed with much of what you wrote, the behavior of others does not excuse your own. You were not civil, commenting on contributors rather than content. You were doing "my" side of the argument no favors with your comments. ~Amatulić (talk) 04:47, 10 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for your advise

Dear...

Thanks for your advise.

As an experienced Editor , please guide me to host those wiki page again.

As for my concern, those links are genuine. I checked few separately.

Meaning of up coming means .. He had already achieved few things and trying to achieve few more records.

I think you misunderstood it that he had not arrived anything. His name is already associated with so many pages with others in Wikipedia itself.

His movies, albums were already released in theaters.

So, he had already arrived his status.

Any how , as you say I will contact the Admin.

Once again guide me to recreate the pages. --Praisewinner (talk) 00:52, 16 July 2014 (UTC)--Praisewinner (talk) 00:52, 16 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]

You may contact the deleting admin as I suggested, and if you are still convinced that the deletion decision was wrong, you may make a case to Wikipedia:Deletion review. Deletion review is not to argue about the merits of the article, but to discuss whether the deletion decision was valid in light of the discussion that already took place.
If you want to create new articles, your best approach is to use your sandbox or a sub-page in your user space. You may create any page as a sub-page, for example User:Praisewinner/Thomas Rathnam. That way you may work on it as a draft without worrying about it being deleted. Then you should submit it to Wikipedia:Articles for creation, where it will be reviewed for suitability before acceptance for publication in main article space. ~Amatulić (talk) 15:26, 16 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for your adivice sir..

Thanks for your advice sir.

I will try to put it in my sand box and send it to you. --Praisewinner (talk) 13:32, 20 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Fresh set of eyes

A pic used to illustrate food and wine pairing in the Merlot article

Hey Amatulic, I'm taking Tomas' advice to seek out a fresh set of eyes about what is going on at the Merlot article. Essentially we have an editor who objects to any images that have a wine bottle involved--even the image to the left that was previously in the article. While I've been trying to work with him to encourage him to replace the images with better free-use alternatives, he prefers to just cast bad faith accusations of advertising and is now threatening to go on a POINTy deletion rampage through all of our wine articles. While there is another editor involved in the discussion that I feel is more amendable to working towards a middle ground in finding acceptable images, I'm becoming more concerned with the behavior of this other editor now that he feels "fueled" by the partial agreement with his POV by another editor. AgneCheese/Wine 18:00, 22 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Actually, his POINTy deletion spree wasn't a new threat from him. I forgot about this edit summary. AgneCheese/Wine 18:24, 22 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]
I have to agree that in most cases, an image works just as well without a depiction of a wine label. Wikipedia is not to be used as a publicity medium, even if that publicity is unintended. In articles that aren't about specific wines or wineries, if a wine label is present in an image, the bottle should be rotated to obscure the label partially. Particularly in the picture you included, just the wine glass would have been sufficient although the wine label is somewhat out of focus (and I must say, whatever gooey concoction is on the plate sure looks unappetizing to me; maybe a plastic cup of white Zin would be more fitting there).
One compromise that might satisfy everyone is to apply digital blur and contrast reduction effects to the label and continue using the existing image. For example, in my image File:Jug wine refills.jpg in which the labels were unavoidable, that's what I did: I hazed the labels out to the point where one cannot identify my uncle's winery. I also made sure the image was fairly low-resolution. One can digitally obscure the labels (using blurring, contrast effects, resolution reduction, or a combination) so that they don't look purposefully obscured yet the brand remains unidentifiable. Any "offending" images could simply be re-uploaded to the same name instead of being deleted. That might be a solution that satisfies all parties in the dispute. ~Amatulić (talk) 02:51, 23 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]
I would be completely amicable to that compromise. As you know, I am one of the most ardent anti-spam wine editors out there so I have no worries or objections about blurring the winery name or what not. I just don't have the technical skills to do that (though I've already tried my best with some of the pics I edited and re-added). My objective is to have fully developed articles that are illustrated with relevant free-images. The key details for me are the color of the wine in the glass, the identification of what the wine is (Merlot, Chard, etc) and the wine region. The winery name can be cut out or obscure in whatever way. That is 100% A-okay because the winery is wholly irrelevant IMO. I was just working with the best of what I had with the best skills and avenue at my disposal. I would be thrilled to death if Drmies or NewTestLeeper were willing to work with me to implement this compromise rather than go on a wholesale deletion spree that leaves our wine articles unillustrated and less developed. AgneCheese/Wine 03:31, 23 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]
I can try my hand at obscuring logos and winery names, although I won't be fast. My first day on a new job is tomorrow and I expect I'll be swamped with that as I get up to speed. ~Amatulić (talk) 03:48, 23 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]
I'm totally fine with that because I know that in the end the articles will be better off. There is no deadline or rush on my part. I just hope that NewTestLeeper will cool down and not go on his mass deletion spree across a broad swath of wine articles. That's my only worry. :/ Best wishes with the new job. I know it can be both an exciting and stressful time. AgneCheese/Wine 03:54, 23 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Occasionally edited, not frequent. Lower to PC-protection? --George Ho (talk) 08:53, 27 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Done. Sorry for the delayed response. ~Amatulić (talk) 23:11, 5 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Last one

Since I prefer not to edit war, i'd appreciate if you use any of these sources to dispel any controversy:

  • Mystical Dimensions of Islam - Page 34, Annemarie Schimmel - 2011: "Jesus, the last prophet before Muhammad according to Koranic revelation ..."
  • My Soul Is a Woman: The Feminine in Islam - Page 22, Annemarie Schimmel - 1997: "... Mary, or Mariam, the virgin mother of Jesus, who was the last prophet before Muhammad"
  • Islam in Iran - Page 7, I. P. Petrushevsky - 1985: "Whereas in Islam's teaching 'Isa al-Masih (Jesus the Messiah) was human; he was one of the great prophets and the immediate predecessor of Muhammad..."

Thanks. Nons3r (talk) 07:35, 10 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

You are missing the point. MOS:ISLAM is Wikipedia's guideline regarding how we present articles on these subjects. In such articles, we do not refer to Muhammad as a "prophet"; at most we refer to "the Islamic Prophet Muhammad" but only when such disambiguation is absolutely necessary. We don't refer to Jesus as a prophet either. Therefore, it is inappropriate to imply that Wikipedia regards these individuals as prophets by putting this information into an infobox. ~Amatulić (talk) 13:30, 10 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Alcohol and health

Hello, Amatulic! Am I remembering correctly, that you were one of the people who dealt with the problem of alcohol related articles by David Hedlund? Sorry for my faulty memory; I can't remember who all contributed to fixing the "Alcohol (drug)" article, and I can't go back and look because the page has been deleted so its talk page is gone. If this is a subject of interest to you, I just discovered another one: Alcohol and health. It was called to my attention by a new addition someone added (which is also problematic). But then I noticed the section "Pregnancy and alcohol" which is horrible: it cites a single study instead of a review article, and mis-states the results of the one study it cites. Then I looked at the article more generally, noticed its strong anti-alcohol bias and general incoherence, and had a hunch it was David Hedlund's work. Sure enough, it turns out he contributed most of the content, much of which is copied from other articles. I'd appreciate it if you would take a look and maybe discuss on the article's talk page. The first question is: can the article be fixed, or would it be better to simply merge any salvageable content to some other article and then nuke it? Also, who else should I contact about this? Thanks for any comments! --MelanieN (talk) 18:48, 15 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

The original "Alcohol (drug)" page wasn't deleted. It was moved to Draft:Alcohol (drug), along with its talk page, because it has salvageable content but couldn't remain in main article space.
I had started looking at other articles David Hedlund touched, and remember coming across Alcohol and health and realized it would be a significant effort to clean it up and re-merge content back to more appropriate places. Then I got a new job which has significantly limited my Wikipedia time to minor gnome work. ~Amatulić (talk) 23:24, 15 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks, that's helpful! I learned from that (draft) talk page that this article was originally spun off from Alcoholic beverage. When I have a little more time I'll go through the article section by section and analyze what has to be done. I understand about your new job, you are excused! 0;-D --MelanieN (talk) 23:57, 15 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

amanda eliasch

why was the Amanda Eliasch page deleted? unfair and incorrect — Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.22.228.31 (talk) 05:28, 21 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

I didn't delete it, I restored it and then it was deleted again. The page's deletion log shows pretty clearly that it was deleted for copyvio and promotional reasons. Take it up with an admin who did delete it, and if you are not satisfied, take your case to Wikipedia:Deletion review. ~Amatulić (talk) 05:47, 21 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Amatulic, you remove the link of ThinkingRock from the Getting Things Done article because it was external only, which I understand. Could you help me to re-instate the original wikipedia ThinkingRock page which was written by an independent author? An administrator deleted it as in his opinion, there were not enough external references. I would like now to add these references but I need the original page back. I have tried to contact that administrator without success.

ThinkingRock is a product similar to the ones listed as software implementations and I find it unfair that the other software are listed but not ThinkingRock. ThinkingRock is one of the rare implementation which is multi-platform with the security to be able to keep the data on desktop and not in the cloud.

Thank you for your help.

Claire — Preceding unsigned comment added by ClaireLem (talkcontribs) 11:02, 21 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Please read the replies to your post at Wikipedia:Requests for undeletion#ThinkingRock. The article was restored 3 days ago to your user space at User:ClaireLem/ThinkingRock. Please continue to work on it there, and do not move it back to main space yourself.
Becaause you have a conflict of interest regarding this subject, you should not be contributing content about your company or product in main article space. At the top of the article in your user space, you will see a button to submit it to Wikipedia:Articles for creation when you believe the article is in compliance with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines, particularly Wikipedia:Notability. ~Amatulić (talk) 16:04, 21 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

ChexSystems

Moved to Talk:ChexSystems where it belongs

Your submission at Articles for creation: User:Marcosvr/ProMetic (August 22)

Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed! Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. Please check the submission for any additional comments left by the reviewer. You are encouraged to edit the submission to address the issues raised and resubmit when they have been resolved.

and click on the "Edit" tab at the top of the window.

~Amatulić (talk) 16:49, 22 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Just a note that I have moved this notice to User talk:Marcosvr, along with your signature and timestamp. Sorry if you are not happy with that, feel free to revert. Zhaofeng Li [talk... contribs...] 11:38, 23 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks, that's weird. The tool must have figured I was the author since I did some clean-up edits before declining the submission. ~Amatulić (talk) 17:04, 25 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

You appear to have a conflict of interest

No, I have not association with Infiniteconversions.com

Please don't jump to conclusions. I read the site, yes, and I find it to be a well-informed site with suitable writing style and tone.

Why did you remove the links?

— Preceding unsigned comment added by FrankZappa14 (talkcontribs) 2014-08-23T15:26:05 (UTC)

Your sole purpose on Wikipedia is to add links to infiniteconversions.com. This is obvious based on your own contribution history, and strongly suggests that you have some association with the site.
Also, this is a blog site, and blogs are generally to be avoided as sources except in special circumstances. Particularly in this case, the whole site including the blog is designed to sell consulting services. Wikipedia is not to be used for publicity or promotion purposes.
I suggested to you on your talk page that WP:RSN is the proper place to discuss the reliability of that source. ~Amatulić (talk) 17:11, 25 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Hello Amatulic…Thank you very much for the comment on the (rejected) submission I made on Dorri Olds. You mentioned the award she won, which is in fact noted on the New York Press website: http://nypress.com/summer-writing-contest-non-fiction-winner-9-lives-for-a-weeble/#respond

I am wondering if this might be sufficient (or at least help) for an article on her, noting she is not just known for a single event.

Your input is greatly appreciated! Thank you!Minusminority (talk) 22:33, 25 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

That's a nice piece, but it doesn't do much to convince me that she's known for more than a single event. She won a writing contest and her essay was published in a local-circulation publication. Is that a notable award, or something nationally recognized? It also says at the bottom that her work has appeared in some regional magazines and some books. That's fine, but her work appearing in other publications doesn't help either, because her own works do not constitute coverage of the person. For someone to be notable we need to see coverage about her.
If she were a "high profile" individual, then WP:BLP1E would no longer apply. Right now she seems to be low-profile. Wikipedia:Who is a low-profile individual offers some clarification of the distinctions. ~Amatulić (talk) 23:19, 25 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you for your quick reply, Amatulic…I appreciate your help - - and will do more work when time allows…(Also, want to mention that though NY Press was local publication in New York City - it was widely circulated and notable (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_York_Press) …Once again, thanks!Minusminority (talk) 00:41, 26 August 2014 (UTC)Minusminority (talk) 00:43, 26 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, you're right. No problems with the notability of the publication. However, even if she published a piece in the New York Times, which has wider circulation, it still wouldn't be coverage about her. The New York Times has plenty of reporters who write for the paper who aren't notable either, by Wikipedia's way of defining it. "Notable" doesn't mean "famous" or even "well known". For Wikipedia, notable means significant coverage about the subject in verifiable and reliable sources. ~Amatulić (talk) 16:38, 26 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Coconut Article Corrections

All changes to the Coconut Oil article are discussed and justified in the talk section. Please explain why you reverted these corrections when there were errors in the existing piece and my corrections were based on scientific research data that was properly cited in the talk section. I removed the erroneous statements, so there was no place to cite in the article itself. Blonz (talk) 19:04, 28 August 2014 (UTC) ER Blonz, Ph.D.[reply]

You failed to use an edit summary to describe what you were doing or why. You did this twice, and you were reverted twice. Talk:Coconut oil contains disagreement about your removal of the statement and accompanying citation. In such cases, it is better to discuss the issue than engage in an edit war, as you seem to be doing. See WP:BRD for guidance. ~Amatulić (talk) 23:19, 28 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Help for editing page

Conversation moved to Talk:Achraf Baznani (photographer)

ContentBridge

Hey, just giving you a head's up just in case. I've nominated ContentBridge for deletion but I'm kind of worried about the assertions the original article creator was making on the article's talk page. They're a paid editor but I think that their COI is getting in the way of their editing when it comes to this article. I'm not asking you to participate in either the talk page or the AfD, but I would like for you to kind of keep an eye on this editor for a while. I've tried talking to them about the various issues on the article but they essentially replied that the article should remain "as is" and that they didn't see why the sources were unusable to show notability or why (for example) that the staff member section would be seen as promotional and give the staff undue weight. That really, REALLY concerns me since that kind of makes me think that their COI is too great to really edit neutrally- especially since they were trying to say that someone being quoted in a Variety article shows notability for the company. (They argued that since he was asked, that means he is important, which means that the company is notable since they asked him because of the company.) Again, just asking you to keep an eye on things in general and at most, just try to give the editor some advice. Tokyogirl79 (。◕‿◕。) 10:52, 4 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

FYI

Redirected Parx Racing to the proper article, Parx Casino and Racing. Should solve the problem of the newbie who keeps redirecting it to his/her userapsace. It's a plausible redirect, so hope that ends the problem!  ;-) Hope that helped! Montanabw(talk) 20:47, 5 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Request on 14:53:52, 11 September 2014 for assistance on AfC submission by Marcosvr

Hi Amatulic,

Sorry to take up your time but would you mind allowing me a copy the Prometic Life Sciences draft so that I may fix the issue and resubmit it?

I asked Revent and he suggest I ask the administrator which I think is you?

Many thanks for any help Marcosvr (talk) 14:53, 11 September 2014 (UTC) Marcos[reply]

@Marcosvr: FYI, that draft was moved to Draft:ProMetic Life Sciences. Since I'm not an admin, I can't actually look at the deleted draft, but the copyright violation was a press release... as I remember, the 'description of the company' was taken directly from there. Even if a section of text is copyrighted by the subject of the article, it still cannot legally be reused unless it has been released to the public domain or under a WP:Compatible license. You can get a copy of the draft from the administrator who deleted it and resubmit it once the issue has been fixed. Revent
I cannot restore a draft that is a copyright violation.
I would email it to you, but you don't have an email address enabled here. You can set that in your user preferences. ~Amatulić (talk) 16:21, 11 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

DYK nomination of Clarence N. Hickman

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List of 12 step groups discussion

Howdy Amatulic. A experienced editor has proposed to change the standard for inclusion of List of twelve-step groups from being a list of wikipedia articles, to being a list of 12 step groups (without the necessity of having an article attached to the entry). The discussion is currently on the talk page. I am contacting you because you have participated in the maintenance of that article. If you have no opinion, please feel free to disregard this notice. Cheers! Coffeepusher (talk) 05:04, 15 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

...has ended up as a redirect to itself. You know the history and can probably disentangle it better than I can. Cheers, JohnCD (talk) 20:41, 16 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Oops, I thought I took care of that last step. All that needed to be done was revert the last edit. ~Amatulić (talk) 21:32, 16 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Amatulic. I wanted to check with you whether adding the following 3 citations for the captioned Wikipedia page would resolve the notability concern?

http://books.google.com/books?id=Yoq2kOiSkEEC&pg=PA240&lpg=PA240&dq=happy+ward+la+samanna&source=bl&ots=uJBmmFGE_B&sig=nIYRyTxi9sK2ln3GlQDTMEPMMpA&hl=en&sa=X&ei=26IYVKGNLoeQyASjo4GAAw&ved=0CGAQ6AEwCg#v=onepage&q=happy%20ward%20la%20samanna&f=false

http://www.marc-michaels.com/recognition/featured-publications/robb-report-vacation-homes-january-2008/

http://rolandrichardson.com/lasamanna3.html

Thanks for your advice. Laurashaikh (talk) 21:31, 16 September 2014 (UTC)Laurashaikh[reply]

The first one you cite above is basically a travel guidebook. Their purpose is to provide comprehensive information on the subject matter. This is routine coverage, analogous to a wine review in Wine Spectator or a restaurant description in Zagat.
I don't know what to make of the second one. An architectural firm with a review of a resort? They seem to be referencing (or reproducing) an article from the Robb Report Vacation Homes publication, so I don't know why that source wouldn't be cited directly. In any case if Vacation Homes is in the business of profiling resorts, then that would be routine coverage also.
The third one is an artist's own web site, and the page features his gallery that happens to be located at the resort. That doesn't constitute "coverage" in the spirit of WP:SIGCOV. The source clearly isn't independent of the resort, and independence is required.
Therefore, I do not believe these sources resolve the notability concern.
Finally, I must ask, what is your connection with the subject of that article? Your contribution history suggests an association. You are required to disclose any association publicly, and you agreed to do so when you accepted the Wikimedia Foundation's Terms of Use. You seem to be engaging in paid advocacy, public relations, or marketing, so please read WP:NOPAY also.
Please put a conflict of interest disclosure statement on your user page User:Laurashaikh. ~Amatulić (talk) 21:56, 16 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for sorting the history merge on this page. --nonsense ferret 22:35, 16 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

I am working on a better version of the poor unsourced stub that you had to A7 speedy back in November 2012. I'll invite you to take a look before I take in to mainspace. Cheers, Schmidt, Michael Q. 10:23, 22 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Looks much better -- however, as a biography of a living person, the article won't last long in main space without references showing coverage in reliable independent sources. Also it isn't clear from the draft, which part of WP:NACTOR is satisfied by the subject. Her past roles don't appear to be significant although I am unfamiliar with The Twilight Saga and her role in it. ~Amatulić (talk) 13:56, 22 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]
The Twilight Saga is a pretty big deal film-wise, though I admit to personally being bored with it. However, her recurring roles in Part 1 and Part 2, and enough other principle roles have her meet meet WP:BIO though WP:NACTOR and enough media attention to meet WP:GNG. BUT the draft is no way ready yet and I ain't done yet by a long shot. Like I wrote above, I'll invite you when ready. Just wanted to let you know. Schmidt, Michael Q. 22:52, 22 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]
In that case, I'd say the draft will be ready if you can add a few reliable sources as references. It's certainly a lot better than the deleted version. ~Amatulić (talk) 23:05, 22 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Could you keep an eye...

I am about to go away for a couple of weeks. Could I ask you to keep an eye on two items at REFUND which might need follow-up?

Thanks, JohnCD (talk) 17:52, 22 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Will do. ~Amatulić (talk) 18:32, 22 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]


DeTao

Hi, Dear Amatulic I just want to ask about my page Beijing DeTao Masters Academy that you deleted due to some copyright reasons. Is there anyway I can restore this page? and how should I do it? Please help! Much appreciated!Detao (talk) 05:22, 23 September 2014 (UTC)-[reply]