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Hey Teahouse! I made my signature! (do you like it?) But where are the chatrooms? Please tell me.Kid President 18:27, 23 September 2014 (UTC)

Hey Kid, not sure we have any chatrooms, but WP:IRC seems a bit similar. --Demiurge1000 (talk) 18:36, 23 September 2014 (UTC)

Is that where I go to get adopted? I want to be a good wiki person.Kid President 18:43, 23 September 2014 (UTC)

My first article may be eligble for "speedy delete"

hello, I just posted my irst article, in good faith I wanted to describe a new emerging actor that is part of my family, my username is "romaneye". I don't know why now there is a huge and very embarrassing red message concerning "speedy deleting">. I apologize for the inconvenience and if doesn't meet the criteria could I ask you to just remove immediately the all thing, as well as, if you have time could also be so kind to let me know, the nature to decline the article? Thank you Romaneye (talk) 18:16, 23 September 2014 (UTC)

Romaneye (talk) 18:15, 23 September 2014 (UTC)

Yeah, I'll do that now.Mirror Freak 18:29, 23 September 2014 (UTC)

NEED HELP .....Roaddog.771

Hi, my question is how to get my article out of the sandbox and actually uploaded to the Wikipedia site.98.88.194.77 (talk) 14:34, 23 September 2014 (UTC)

Hello and welcome

Some senior person will answer your question, I only removed blank spaces from you question as the text was over flowing to right side window.

Aftab Banoori ^(Talk) 15:18, 23 September 2014 (UTC)

Hello user with IP-number. Can you please log in and post here again. Your IP number only have this Teahouse-edit and no sandbox or article. It is so much easier to help you if we know more facts. Best, w.carter-Talk 15:29, 23 September 2014 (UTC)

Greetings...Roaddog. Make sure you are signed in with your account first to protect your IP address. If you believe you are confident in your draft then go ahead and submit for review. Sounds like you are not signed in. If you are currently working on a sandbox project there should be a box on top which you must save. If you don't see it now you may have accidentally deleted the format and will need to place the proper language codes back into your sandbox before submitting. Try this....

{{User sandbox}}

Good luck. Hope this helps. --Carbon0902 (talk) 16:52, 23 September 2014 (UTC)

Roaddog.771, I've added the template {{User sandbox}} to your sandbox at User:Roaddog.771/sandbox. Press the green button when you are ready to submit. But your article needs a lot more work first. All biographies of living persons require references from reliable independent sources. I suggest you read Wikipedia:Your first article for some guidance. Best wishes, Voceditenore (talk) 17:15, 23 September 2014 (UTC)

Problem with featured article

Hi - Today's featured article on Fluorine contains a dead image link (near the end under 'Environmental concerns'), which made me notice that the article isn't locked. I guess my question is two-fold: (1) are featured articles no longer locked and (2) how should go about reporting the dead image link? Gholson (talk) 11:56, 23 September 2014 (UTC)

Hi Gholson, welcome to the Teahouse! Currently, Today's Featured Article is treated as any other article. Protection will be added only if circumstances warrant. If you aren't able to fix the problem yourself, you can report it on the article's talk page. --NeilN ^{talk to me} 15:47, 23 September 2014 (UTC)

I spotted a malware link... how to report/delete?

I found a link to a phony website on a Wikipedia page - how do I report it/delete it?

Qbuster (talk) 05:01, 23 September 2014 (UTC)

Welcome to the Teahouse, Qbuster. Please delete the link immediately. If you will give us the name of the article, experienced editors will take a look. Cullen³²⁸ Let's discuss it 05:10, 23 September 2014 (UTC)

Can't revisit a contribution Imade...

I added some information, picture and ref about a pair of Bailey Bridges in Alrewas Staffordshire. I saved the edit and was directed to a page pointing out that I wasn't logged in - I logged in and now I can't find the edits I made.....can anyone help?

Qbuster (talk) 04:57, 23 September 2014 (UTC)

Hello, Qbuster. Edits made while logged out will not show up on your edit history. However, if you visit the page you edited, and look at the history of that page (click the link at the top of the page), you will see your edits credited to your IP address. Cullen³²⁸ Let's discuss it 05:15, 23 September 2014 (UTC)

Unfortunately the edit I added isn't in the History - in fact nothing recorded since since August. I'll just have to create it again.

Thanks for your prompt response.

86.142.160.24 (talk) 08:31, 23 September 2014 (UTC)

Neutrality Edits.

Hello,

I'm a new editor, and am still learning Wikipedia policy. So far I have been adding information to historical female figures that are short or are stubs, as well as adding information to Judy Chicago's "The Dinner Party: Heritage Floor" page. Recently, I've run into a bit of controversy about changing the dates BC to BCE, AD to CE. I feel that, so far as what I know about wikipedia's neutrality policy, this is a fair edit to make. I am not an advocate for any particular world view, but I along with many others in the academic field feel bc and ad are religiously biased, and that to reflect the rapidly changing nature of academic fields to be more neutral, fair and inclusive, edits should be made.

Perhaps not completely unsurprisingly, I have had a "couple" users (although I suspect it is the same user with multiple accounts) undo my edits and tell me my edits are in violation of wikipedia policy, or have just outright yelled at me. I don't want a flame war and have tried to hold a discussion, but they refuse to respond except by edit warring. I have found absolutely nothing in wikipedia's policy guidelines about it except for old rejected proposal pages. How best should I handle this situation? Unless it explicitly contrary to wikipedia's policy, I am quite adamant and will not be bullied by someone with what I can only assume is a religious agenda (They have not really mentioned why they undo my edits. Some nonsense about MOSDAT .. mosdat? really?). Seshata (talk) 04:31, 23 September 2014 (UTC)

Welcome to the Teahouse, Seshata. I first saw Judy Chicago's "The Dinner Party" when it was first exhibited in San Francisco in either 1979 or 1980, and have great respect for her work. I share your preference for CE and BCE in dates, but please be aware that Wikipedia operates on consensus, not the personal preferences of individual editors. Sorry, but WP:MOSDATE is not "nonsense" but is the section of our Manual of Style that has to do with dates. The relevant section reads as follows:

"The default calendar era is the Western Dionysian era system, a year numbering system also known as the Western Christian era (represented by BC and AD), or the Common Era (represented by BCE and CE).

BC and AD are the traditional ways of referring to this era. BCE and CE are common in some scholarly texts and religious writings. Either convention may be appropriate.

Do not change the established era style in an article unless there are reasons specific to its content. Seek consensus on the talk page before making the change. Open the discussion under a subhead that uses the word "era". Briefly state why the style is inappropriate for the article in question. A personal or categorical preference for one era style over the other is not justification for making a change."

Accordingly, you should discuss the matter on the article's talk page, and refrain from describing the behavior of editors who refer to established consensus as bullying, or promising to be "adamant", when instead you should have a collaborative attitude leading to consensus, not confrontation. Cullen³²⁸ Let's discuss it 05:37, 23 September 2014 (UTC)

Hi Cullen.

Ok. That WP:MOSDATE is the information I needed. The original comment cited MOSDAT with no link, and nothing of value came up in a search, so I though they were pulling my chain. Well then. Collaboration, indeed. Here's to communication! Thanks for your advice. Also, you saw the original installation of Judy Chicago's piece? I'm very jealous. Have a good one.  :: Seshata (talk) 05:47, 23 September 2014 (UTC)Seshata

Yes, Seshata, I saw the Dinner Party when it was fresh and new, roughly 35 years ago. I still remember after all these years that it was displayed in sort of an improvised warehouse space, south of Market Street in San Francisco, and I had a hard time finding a parking space. I was driving a burnt orange VW Rabbit at the time, and could fit into the smallest legal space. But I also remember that I loved the exhibit, because my attitude toward art is completely different from that of Hilton Kramer, whose harsh criticism is quoted in the main article about the project. I also saw a representative selection of her work at the Crocker Art Museum in Sacramento a year or two ago, which was great but not as impressive as the original, which I consider truly groundbreaking. Cullen³²⁸ Let's discuss it 06:27, 23 September 2014 (UTC)

Yes, the over-use of obscure policy abbreviations is something that causes a great many problems, and it is one of the things this Teahouse aims to address. It's good that it's working! Arthur goes shopping (talk) 06:16, 23 September 2014 (UTC)

Hi Seshata, I know your question has been answered but I just wanted to add one bit of possibly useful info. When you want to search for a policy or wikipedia manual, essentially anything that is about editing Wikipedia as opposed to the actual encyclopedia remember that the names for those articles are in a different wp:namespace. If you don't know what a namespace is don't worry but all you need to know is to preface everything with "wp:". That's why you couldn't find MOSDATE but if you had looked for wp:MOSDATE you would have found it. The completion also works for things prefaced that way so you can type say "wp:M" in Wikipedia search box up in the right corner and see all the things that relate to the Wikipedia editing namespace and start with M, they will show up as possible completions. I find this very useful because I can never remember the exact names of policies and other things like that. --MadScientistX11 (talk) 17:46, 23 September 2014 (UTC)

Recently started article. But unsure of Notability.

Hello,

I have created a drafted article here- User:DmitryPopovRU/Alex Gilbert which Alex Gilbert was recently removed due to not enough notability. After the article was deleted I managed to find some useful sources. I really need to know if you all think these are reliable enough so this article can be moved? or I will just leave it here for the time being. Thank You!

- http://tvnz.co.nz/sunday/s2014-ep1-video-5821764 - http://www.nzherald.co.nz/lifestyle/news/article.cfm?c_id=6&objectid=11232549 - http://www.nzherald.co.nz/northern-advocate/news/article.cfm?c_id=1503450&objectid=11310534

These are all really reliable sources! Need peoples opinion. Thank You!

Dmitry. DmitryPopovRU (talk) 03:48, 23 September 2014 (UTC)

Hello Dmitry and welcome to the Teahouse. I have not looked at the video link, but the other two seem like good and useful sources to me. Perhaps you should add {{subst:submit}} at the top of your userspace draft, and then when a reviewer has time, they will assess whether it is a good idea to move it back to being an article in the encyclopedia again. Arthur goes shopping (talk) 06:14, 23 September 2014 (UTC)

Thank You for your response. Yes I have created a page up for review at Draft:Alex Gilbert but have waited for awhile now. I wanted to know peoples opinions on if this article is reliable or not so the article dosen't have a nomination for deletion again. The video link I believe can be watched here - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s8Pcuc4Hqmk which was found in this video description https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bpUZV4p-ak8 . Thanks! DmitryPopovRU (talk) 06:24, 23 September 2014 (UTC)

How long till pages go 'live'?

Hi all, I've recently created two pages and wanted to know what the usual time is for someone to review them and then have them go 'live'? Innovatepsych (talk) 01:36, 23 September 2014 (UTC)

Welcome to the Teahouse, Innovatepsych. You created these articles in main space rather than using the Articles for Creation process, so they are already fully "live". New page patrollers are volunteers, so the usual time is "when someone gets around to it". Cullen³²⁸ Let's discuss it 02:41, 23 September 2014 (UTC)

Upload an improved photo of the subject

Hello . . . I am a registered editor but with not much experience with Wikipedia. I want to improve the photo that accompanies the article on Rev. Gregg Mast, president of New Brunswick Theological Seminary. The current pic is sort of blurry and I've got a much better one. But how do I do it? There must be a template to follow somewhere. I've been fishing around the Wikipedia site but with no luck. Please help. It bugs me that I can improve this article but don't know how to do it. Thanks!Kilter1990 (talk) 23:07, 22 September 2014 (UTC)

Hi Kilter1990, and welcome to the teahouse! If the photo is your own creation, then uploading it is easy (the process becomes a bit more complex if you are not the copyright holder). On the left-hand navigation of this page, you'll see a link called "Upload file." The upload wizard will walk you through the steps to upload the image. I hope this is helpful, and come back if you have further questions. Keihatsu ^talk 00:57, 23 September 2014 (UTC)

I have a different view of this matter. If you are the copyright holder, Kilter1990, (which for all practical purposes means that you took the picture yourself), and if you are willing to freely license the photo for use by anyone for any purpose, then you should upload the photo to Wikimedia Commons, not here on Wikipedia. Most commonly, photos and images uploaded here to Wikipedia are non free, very limited, and must comply with our strict policy on non free images. If you do not hold the copyright to the photo in question, it has no acceptable use here on Wikipedia, as a non-free photo of a living person is not permitted here when we already have a photo, even if it is mediocre. You could take another photo, for example, and license it freely. Cullen³²⁸ Let's discuss it 02:58, 23 September 2014 (UTC)

help

Hi

I need help formatting an article making sure I follow the guidelines from Wikipedia so it does not look like promotional article and avoid deletion. Am doing this for a friend (it is his birthday tomorrow!) and worked hard in his career to get where he is. However am new to all this, any help is appreciated. I read quite a lot of the guides and guidelines on line. If there was a profile reference I could use, perhaps I can manage to edit his article properly.

Looking forward to hearing from you.

Many thanks Gwen G.Robbana 21:31, 22 September 2014 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by GWEN ROBBANA (talk • contribs)

It is fairly simple to create an article that is not promotional if the subject is notable. References will save it, if you can find them. For a living person we have a high standard of referencing. Every substantive fact you assert, especially one that is susceptible to potential challenge, requires a citation with a reference that is about them, and is independent of them, and is in WP:RS. I am afraid that, at present, the gentleman is shown to exist, not tbe notable. You have work to do. Find sources: Google (books · news · scholar · free images · WP refs) · FENS · JSTOR · TWL should help.

I am afraid we don't give articles as birthday presents. Fiddle Faddle 21:55, 22 September 2014 (UTC)

Hello, Gwen. There's one other thing you should consider before making a present: if you do create an article on your friend, and it is kept in Wikipedia, then neither you nor he will have any control over its contents. If there is (in the past or in the future) any controversy concerning him, or any adverse criticism, that gets reported in the press, it may get added to the article. --ColinFine (talk) 22:08, 22 September 2014 (UTC)

Hi Gwen. Have a look at Valerio Spada for an example. In that article, there are multiple independent references discussing his work in detail. --NeilN ^{talk to me} 22:11, 22 September 2014 (UTC)

Where to put information

Where should I put information about the work a specific person does and in turn is mentioned in a newspaper article? BrendaA1 (talk) 18:56, 22 September 2014 (UTC)

You put in within 'their' article and use the newspaper article as a references. Read WP:REFB for guidance on that element. Fiddle Faddle 21:59, 22 September 2014 (UTC)

Typo

Hope I'm not digging a hole..I apologize again. Text should reference typo, not type. Karen D. Hoffman (talk) 16:23, 22 September 2014 (UTC)

Hello Karen D. Hoffman

It is easy to edit correct the original question.

If you did any typing mistake in the question, you can easily correct it

by simply clicking "Edit" tab.

Aftab Banoori ^(Talk) 16:37, 22 September 2014 (UTC)

Uploading company logo in the infobox

Hi all! I have recently created a company page. Now I want to upload the company logo in the infobox. The company logo is trademarked. But the company is willing to put that logo on their wikipedia page. How do I do that? WikiEditorP (talk) 16:22, 22 September 2014 (UTC)

Hello WikiEditorP, and thank you for visiting the teahouse. I have read your new page that you created yesterday. I need to ask you if you happen to work for this company? The content reads like an advertisement. I like how the page appears. How did you get permission from the company to use the logo? Best regards and happy editing.   Bfpage |leave a message  17:03, 22 September 2014 (UTC)

Actually, it doesn't matter how the company gave permission, Bfpage. Unless the company WikiEditorP is talking to is willing to license the logo under a licence such as CC-BY-SA (which will permit anybody to use it for any purpose, including commercially: rather unlikely that they will allow this), it may be used on Wikipedia only in accordance with the non-free content criteria, and their permission is irrelevant. It is common for logos to be used in this way. --ColinFine (talk) 18:31, 22 September 2014 (UTC)

Thank you for clarifying the use of the company logo, ColinFine. I have to admit I was reading this question from WikiEditorP with the eyes of a new page reviewer, welcoming committee and Teahouse hostess. Receiving permission from the company could mean that WikiEditorP may be affiliated with the company he has written about. In addition, though there are no copyright violations on this article, the text is a close approximation of copyrighted material, the article reads like an advertisement, uses peacock words and uses primary sources for most of its content. Now that is not neccessarily bad news because I have seen articles like this 'rescued' and transformed into informative articles without any of the problems I described. I like doing this a lot for new page creators. So the use of the logo is probably the least of the problems right now. I did not formally 'review' the page, nor did I attach any templates alerting other editors of potential problems with the article.

WikieditorP, I am glad that you came to the Teahouse for help. Would you like some assistance in dealing with the potential problems that I have just identified with your new article? I would hate to see something informative that you have created get deleted because you might be unaware of the guidelines for acceptable articles.

I look forward to hearing back from you. Let's work together and make sure your article becomes part of the encyclopedia and not just a 'company page'.

Best Regards, and thank you ColinFine.

  Bfpage |leave a message  19:21, 22 September 2014 (UTC)

ColinFine Thank you for your reply. As I am a new editor here, I am not able to understand the difference between CC-BY-SA and non-free content criteria. Can you please suggest me as to in which category I should upload the company logo. For your information, I am a freelancer who takes assignments from different companies and hence I am not an employee of this company. WikiEditorP (talk) 05:35, 23 September 2014 (UTC)

Bfpage Thank you so much for your interest in helping me improve my article. I have tried my level best to write the article in the neutral tone. Yet, I don't understand how it appears to be written like an advertisement. Can you please point out a few errors so that I learn and I don't make similar mistakes in the near future. I don't work for this company but I have a friend who works there and he requested me to create the company page on the CEO's behalf. I definitely need help here in editing with the article so that it doesn't get deleted. I got an email from Theroadislong this morning stating that my article might get deleted. Here is the message:

This article may meet Wikipedia's criteria for speedy deletion as an article about a company, corporation or organization that does not credibly indicate the importance or significance of the subject. Note that educational institutions are not eligible under this criterion. See CSD A7. If this article does not meet the criteria for speedy deletion, or you intend to fix it, please remove this notice, but do not remove this notice from pages that you have created yourself. If you created this page, and you disagree with the given reason for deletion, you can click the button below and leave a message, explaining why you believe this article should not be deleted. You can also visit the talk page to check if you have received a response to your message.

Note that once tagged with this notice, this article may be deleted at any time if it unquestionably meets the speedy deletion criteria, or if an explanation posted to the talk page is found to be insufficient.

Note to page author: you have not edited the article talk page yet. If you wish to contest this speedy deletion, clicking the button above will allow you to leave a talk page message explaining why you think this article should not be deleted.

How do I resolve this issue? please assist me in dealing with this problem. Thanks in advance! WikiEditorP (talk) 05:52, 23 September 2014 (UTC)

Bfpage To avoid losing my page, I just clicked on the "contest this speedy deletion" button and replied the following:

This article should not be speedily deleted for lack of asserted importance because I have created it for a company for the very first time. I agree that I might have violated some of the rules of wikipedia in creating my first article, however, I am trying to fix those issues by talking to other users in the Teahouse. Please give me some time to fix the errors as I only intend to add valuable information to the existing encyclopedia and not promote any company or organization. I apologize for any inconvenience caused.

Now how do I fix the published article? Many thanks to everyone who intend me to help. WikiEditorP (talk) 06:04, 23 September 2014 (UTC)

The article Convergence Services was just deleted by User:FreeRangeFrog. Perhaps you should start your article draft at Wikipedia:Articles for creation instead, so that it will not get moved to the main article space until it is in a state where it does not need to be speedy deleted. You could also have a look at Wikipedia:Notability (organizations and companies) to check whether Wikipedia actually needs an article about this particular company at all. If it doesn't, you could look into writing about another topic that interests you. Arthur goes shopping (talk) 06:44, 23 September 2014 (UTC)

Excuse my typo

Hi again. I just posted a question that contains a type. It should read "…additional photos of places that have already been photographed." Sorry, and thanks.Karen D. Hoffman (talk) 16:18, 22 September 2014 (UTC)

How do I submit an edit?

Hi. I have been taking picutres of some of the places listed on the National Reigster of Historic Places. I see a few places listed that are no longer in existence (torn or burned down). How do I get this information into your database? Another question, if I could. I have taken some picures of monuments that already have a photo. Is it possible, or even desireable for others to submit additional photos of places that have already by photographed? Thanks 24.196.169.86 (talk) 16:09, 22 September 2014 (UTC)

Hello, IP contributor. Wikipedia hasn't a database other than the contents of its articles. Actually, there is a database called Wikidata, but it is subsidiary, and mostly used for tying different language Wikipedias together, so I'll ignore it for the purpose of your question. If you have information that can improve an article, you are welcome to edit the article; or if you are not confident in doing that, you can make a suggestion on the article's talk page. In either case, the ideal is that all information in Wikipedia is supported by a reference to a reliable published source, so including such a source will make it much more likely that your change will be retained (or acted upon, if you've made it as a suggestion).

Pictures are a different matter. As long as you own the copyright in your photos (which you normally will, if you took them), and are willing to licence them so that anybody may use them for any purpose, you are encouraged to upload them to Wikimedia commons (see WP:UPLOAD), from which all Wikimedia projects (including in particular, all the different-language Wikipedias) may use them - I believe you need to create an account in order to upload pictures. Whether to add a further picture to an article which already has one, or indeed whether to replace a picture by another one, is an editorial judgment which any editor may make. If you think your pictures are better for the article than the ones already there, you may replace them; or if you think that there is value in having both the existing picture and your own in the article, you may add your picture (once you've uploaded it). If you make a change, it may be that some other editor will disagree, and think the original picture was better, or that only one is appropriate where you went for two. In that case, the other editor might undo your change: this is normal, and you may take it as an invitation to you to discuss the matter with them on the article's talk page. (We call this the bold, revert, discuss cycle). Happy editing! --ColinFine (talk) 16:28, 22 September 2014 (UTC)

Infobox design help

Hey

On my draft page Draft: Contentful, I am using the Template:Infobox company which has both a logo and image field. I was able to put a logo and an image in but it looked awful because the image was directly below the logo. I would like to put the image at the bottom of the box but I have no idea how.

I tried simply putting it at the bottom of the code but it didn't work. The image uploaded is Contentful Office1.jpeg. Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks!

Samsharif8 (talk) 14:54, 22 September 2014 (UTC)

Welcome to the Teahouse, Samsharif8. A fair use logo should only be used in an an encyclopedia article, not a draft. Please remove the logo, and focus on the written content of the draft now. Please see our policy on non free content for details. Thank you. Cullen³²⁸ Let's discuss it 15:51, 22 September 2014 (UTC)

Thank you for the advice. I have actually finished with the written content of the draft. I was just trying to make the page look visually perfect before moving to an article. I have now moved the page to an article so the fair use logo is not in a draft anymore. Any guidance on how I could add an image at the bottom of the infobox? Samsharif8 (talk) 16:00, 22 September 2014 (UTC)

Hello, Samsharif8. I'm pretty sure you can't. The whole point of a template is that it has a standard appearance. (It would be possible for the template to have a parameter that let you position the image, but as far as I can see at Template:infobox company, it has no such parameter). You could in principle change the template or get it changed; but because the template is used on thousands of pages, you should not attempt to do so unless you have achieved consensus to do so on Template talk:infobox company; and I don't think you're likely to get that consensus. But you're welcome to try, if it matters to you. --ColinFine (talk) 16:15, 22 September 2014 (UTC)

Hello Samsharif8! Why don't you simply put the picture after/below the infobox? I have done so in this draft that I'm working on. If you look at the code, it is simply a matter of just including the thumb picture after the infobox. Best, w.carter-Talk 20:26, 22 September 2014 (UTC)

Thanks W.carter for the helpful reply! I have done that. Good luck with your draft. Samsharif8 (talk) 12:55, 23 September 2014 (UTC)

neutral vs promotional

I just recently added two external links to a university library page and they were deleted. I told the person that they should not have been deleted because they were simply links to satellite campuses and I believed they should be included because I am employed at one of them though not the two which I included. I received a message from another user stating I should be careful about promotional material. I was not promoting anything. I was simply adding two external links to the different campuses which had not been there previously. My question is how is this considered promotional? Wthowerto (talk) 14:22, 22 September 2014 (UTC)

Welcome to the Teahouse Wthowerto. Like a lot of things on Wikipedia not every editor will agree on this. IMO the link you added was sort of on the border. At a first glance I rather agree with you that it wasn't wp:promotional On the other hand the fact that you work at the library is technically a wp:COI so a case could be made that you shouldn't be editing that page anyway. You've handled it properly, not wp:edit warring. If you want to appeal further,the first place to start is on the talk page of the article: Talk:Florida_Atlantic_University_Library. You could open a new section there saying why you think the links are a good addition. Either that or on the talk page of the editor who reverted your edit. If you still can't agree you can try this: Wikipedia:Third_opinion, that's an informal process to get an additional opinion when two editors disagree. Usually, if it gets to that point both editors will agree to abide by what the third opinion says although that isn't cast in stone, if one editor thinks they have a solid argument, arguments matter more than number of opinions. In that case there is a formal appeal process as well, that is documented here: Wikipedia:Dispute_resolution That process IS binding, it will take a lot longer and both editors must agree to whatever the resolution is. I've been editing Wikipedia for several years now and I've never gone to dispute resolution. My suggestion is to practice the Zen Wikipedia practice of not giving a fuck, since you have a slight COI here just move on and since you are a librarian there must be a zillion other things you could do to improve Wikipedia that aren't related to where you work, my suggestion is to focus on those things. --MadScientistX11 (talk) 14:47, 22 September 2014 (UTC)

thank MadScientistX11!! really good points especially about not giving a f.. about and move one to bigger and better things on Wikipedia. 131.91.187.50 (talk) 14:51, 22 September 2014 (UTC)

Signature

Hi Teahouse! I was wondering how I can make my signature look really cool! 173.78.222.115 (talk) 14:13, 22 September 2014 (UTC)

Hello! Actually, first you must log in to change your signature. --AmaryllisGardener ^talk 14:16, 22 September 2014 (UTC)

You'll need to log in to your account in order to do it, but WP:CUSTOMSIG explains how to change your signature. Yunshui ^雲_水 14:18, 22 September 2014 (UTC)

But I don't have an accownt.173.78.222.115 (talk) 14:18, 22 September 2014 (UTC)

Then you're stuck with your IP address as a signature - why not just create an account? Yunshui ^雲_水 14:22, 22 September 2014 (UTC)

I made an account. Now what?Kid President (talk) 14:34, 22 September 2014 (UTC)

For customizing your signature you will find information at Wikipedia:Signatures#Customizing your signature, there is also this page: Wikipedia:Smurrayinchester's signature tutorial where you can also find examples of signatures. It does not "replace" the four tildes, the four tildes will automatically create it when you have entered it "Preferences → User profile". Best, w.carter-Talk 14:35, 22 September 2014 (UTC)

@Kid President: You aren't Robby Novak are you? If not, you may want to indicate that on your user page. When you take the name or pseudonym of a public figure, there is a good chance people may confuse you with that public figure. --Jayron32 14:39, 22 September 2014 (UTC)

Summer of Monuments

Finding my pictures submitted to Summer of Monuments. I used a my own name and a combination of my user name (zinetv1) and real name (Lionel Martinez) to assign the copyright does this make a difference. Zinetv1 (talk) 14:03, 22 September 2014 (UTC)

Hi Zinetv1/Lionel. Because the copyright for an image you created is assigned to you, the person, it doesn't matter what name you've uploaded files under. Your account name refers to you (and only you), your real name refers to you (and probably a few other Lionel Martinezes as well, but for the purpose of copyright it also just refers to you). As a result, you are still the copyright holder of the image, regardless of what name you licence it under. Yunshui ^雲_水 14:21, 22 September 2014 (UTC)

Citing documentaries

Does anyone have much experience using Template:Cite AV media? I'm looking to cite this documentary and am wondering what conventions folks have used with regard to quoting, and what parameters are most important to include. I, JethroBT ^{drop me a line} 04:32, 22 September 2014 (UTC)

Greetings JethroBT,and thanks for visiting the teashouse. There is more than one way to cite a documentary. I just had to cite a PBS program myself and so I cant tell you what I did:

I filled out this 'form' and then added the text exactly right after the statement that I wanted to reference. I have left this blank so that you can fill in the spaces yourself:

<ref>{{cite episode | title = | episodelink = | url = | series = | serieslink = | credits = | network = | station = | city = | airdate = | began = | ended = | season = | seriesno = | number = | minutes = | transcript = | transcripturl= }}</ref>

Fill in the information that you have on your documentary after the =

If this doesn't work for you, please come back to the Teahouse for more answers.

Best Regards,   Bfpage |leave a message  17:19, 22 September 2014 (UTC)

Pizza wikipedia page

Hey everyone,

I'm working on editing the Pizza page as part of a Cornell University course. My team and I have listed our suggested changes on the talk page but would appreciate as much experienced-wikipedian support as we can get. I welcome all tips and advice.

Thank you! Abs296 (talk) 01:25, 22 September 2014 (UTC)

Welcome to the Teahouse, Abs296. I will repeat what I think is the best advice you have been given on that talk page: Identify and use the highest quality reliable sources for your expansion of the article. The reliability of a source depends on many factors, such as the publisher, the author and the context. Accordingly, respected food writers of the past like James Beard or Julia Child (there are many others), or very early published Italian-American cookbooks are far better sources for the early history of pizza in America than some 21st century journalist dashing off a newspaper column on the "history" of pizza. My other recommendation is to focus on the dish itself in this main article. There are many related topics, including pizza cutters, pizza ovens, chain pizza restaurants, pizza delivery, frozen pizza, take and bake pizza, and so on. Most are deserving of their own articles, so should just be touched on lightly in the main Pizza article. Please do not take my comments about pizza in America (indisputably important) as a recommendation to ignore the spread of pizza to other countries. I ate pizza with my wife , ChesPal, at an outdoor restaurant in Egypt on our honeymoon 33 years ago, and remember that an egg was cracked onto the center just before it went into the oven, just as I remember the feral cats who hung around waiting for a morsel. So, well referenced information about pizza in countries other than Italy and the U.S. is welcomed. This is a world-wide encyclopedia, after all. Cullen³²⁸ Let's discuss it 04:24, 22 September 2014 (UTC)

Pizza is this weeks Wp:TAFI article, which is actually awesome as it means you will have a lot of help editing the article. If it has to be edited only by you, please let TAFI know about your university assignment. @NickPenguin:--Coin945 (talk) 09:33, 22 September 2014 (UTC)

Is my content acceptable (List of videos related to ...) ?

Hi,

On Wikipedia there are articles that are list of books about different subjects. Here are two examples: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_mythology_books_and_sources. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_books_about_nuclear_issues

I would like to create something similar but for videos instead books. There would be no copyright issues with this list because all links would open to original videos uploaded by the copyright holder. But I'm afraid that it might get deleted, not because it doesn't fit the guidelines but because something similar doesn't exist yet.

Here is an example why I think such a list is needed in popular subjects: Imagine you want to watch video interviews of Bill Clinton according the date they were recorded. If you try to do that you will find out that it is impossible. There are many identical and unauthorized copies uploaded of the same videos. If you try to sort them by upload date it doesn't help because videos from years ago are re-uploaded this year. If you spend a long time you could find all the original videos you want. But even then you will realize that some original videos don't mention when it was recorded. You would need to do more research to find that information for each video.

The list I want to write would link to original content. It would also show when it was recorded. These type lists require continuous updates and contribution from many people. Therefore other websites can't easily create or maintain such lists which is why this information is missing and it would be good to have it here. Here are some examples of the type of lists I would like to create:

"List of videos about Elon Musk" "List of videos about Tesla Motors" "List of videos about electric cars"

I don't want my article to be deleted. I never wrote or edited an article on Wikipedia. What should I do? T78 (talk) 00:49, 22 September 2014 (UTC)

Hi T78. A fairly fundamental requirement for list pages on Wikipedia is that the items on the list should be notable in their own right. With lists of books, this is fairly easy. With videos, however, I doubt it would be so simple - how many of the videos you're proposing to add have their own Wikipedia articles already? Wikipedia isn't intended to be a collection of useful links; it's supposed to be an encyclopedia - we don't host lists of every book, person, company, TV series etc., only lists of notable books, people, companies, series etc. What you're proposng is a sort of extended External Links section, which, whilst it might be useful, would not be encyclopedic. So in short, the answer to your question, "What should I do?" is, I'm afraid, "something else". Sorry to disappoint, but I'd rather you were disappointed up front than that you put in lots of work only to see it deleted. Yunshui ^雲_水 08:03, 22 September 2014 (UTC)

Thanks. That sounds like a fair requirement. T78 (talk) 09:56, 22 September 2014 (UTC)

Why was my article denied posting?

Hey! My name is John and I've just joined Wikipedia in the past week. I attempted to create and article concerning a band of which I am a member and I was "nixed" for publication on the site. I would love to know the specific reason and perhaps what steps I could take to ensure it's possible admittance on to Wikipedia.

Thanks! 76.10.64.54 (talk) 18:18, 21 September 2014 (UTC)

Hello John and welcome to the Teahouse. You have to give us the name of the article so we know what you are talking about, since there are no edits visible at your IP-number. Did you have an account when you wrote it? If that was the case, please let us know that too so we can search. Best, w.carter-Talk 18:45, 21 September 2014 (UTC)

(edit conflict) Hello @76.10.64.54:. The very first, and as yet, only edit you have made to Wikipedia under this identity is the question above. Perhaps you forgot to log in to your account before posting the question. It would be most helpful to know which article is giving you trouble, so we can look it over and try to help you. The only thing we can do is answer your question very generally. The best advice I can give you is to read Wikipedia's policies on conflicts of interest. Generally, we tell people that they do not try to create articles (or edit existing articles) about themselves or about groups or organizations they are members of. Instead, if you want your band to have a Wikipedia article, the best thing you can do is just keep playing music, getting better, and sell more records. Eventually, as more people write about you all over the world someone you have never met will just write a Wikipedia article about your band. That's how Wikipedia works: people who are interested in things write about them. The danger, however, in writing about subjects we are too close to, like ourselves or organizations we belong to (like your band) is that OUR interest (in promoting ourselves, or increasing the visibility of ourselves, or making ourselves look good) is in CONFLICT with Wikipedia's interest of having a neutrally written article about that subject. So, it's best if you just went about playing your music, becoming more known around the world, and eventually someone will just write a Wikipedia article about your band. Good luck! --Jayron32 18:50, 21 September 2014 (UTC)

Username on top the page I created

Why is it that my username appears on top of the page I created? Is this a temporary thing? Childrenofheart (talk) 14:55, 21 September 2014 (UTC)

Hello Childrenofheart and welcome

I guess because it is still in "Draft" state, It hasn't been accepted as a article yet.

Aftab Banoori ^(Talk) 15:17, 21 September 2014 (UTC)

Thank you, is there a time frame for it to be accepted or rejected?

Childrenofheart (talk) 15:47, 21 September 2014 (UTC)

@Childrenofheart: The earlier answer was not 100% correct. The page Draft:Omar Imady exists, as does Childrenofheart, and they seem identical. The former was not submitted for review and has not yet been. If you believe it to r]be ready then please go there and submit it. There is a notice at the head now showing you how to do this. The latter is not appropriate use of a user page and needs to be blanked, ideally by you, please Fiddle Faddle 15:57, 21 September 2014 (UTC)

Thank you.

Draft is now submitted for review and Childrenofheart has been blanked. I have a comment on removing inline links - not quite sure what that means?

Childrenofheart (talk) 16:19, 21 September 2014 (UTC)

Am I being asked to remove text that is hyperlinked? Many wiki pages (some notable ones - e.g. JF) have words and terms that are linked to other sites. Forgive me for being confused.

16:24, 21 September 2014 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Childrenofheart (talk • contribs)

Hello Childrenofheart, sorry for the confusion, it happened to all of us when we wrote our first article. You are not being asked to remove the hyperlinked text from the article, just move them from the main text area and use them as references instead. Links in the text area should only be links within the Wikipedia, not external. I see that you have not really understood what references are and how they should be treated, so I suggest you read this: Help:Referencing for beginners. You could also benefit from reading Wikipedia:Your first article. There are so many new things for you right now, but we've all been there. :) Some more to think about: When you write something here or at any other talk page, please remember to sign your post with ~~~~. Also take Fiddle Faddles advice and clear the article from your user page. That page is only meant for some Wikipedia related information about you. You can look at the user pages of some other users and see what they can look like. Please ask again if you need further help. Best, w.carter-Talk 16:46, 21 September 2014 (UTC)

Are there any statistics for how many people visit the talk pages for articles?

Just something I was wondering. Are there any statistics of the average number of people who visit a talk page for articles? I don't mean any specific article, just all articles in general. 86.21.101.169 (talk) 03:50, 21 September 2014 (UTC)

Hello and welcome to the Tea House

On the left side in "Tools" heading you will see "Page Information" click it, then at the bottom of the page you will see "Page view statistics" under heading "External Links" click it to view for article traffic.

Aftab Banoori ^(Talk) 04:10, 21 September 2014 (UTC)

Just in case you are interested in total statistics for Wikipedia, a good place for that is a page called Wikimedia Statistics Search. Item No. 3 on that page is a tool called "Wiki Viewstats". If you click that, there is a button on the left called "Talk", which will show you the most popular Talk pages. That should give you a rough idea of how popular Talk pages are compared to article pages. --Margin1522 (talk) 22:28, 21 September 2014 (UTC)

Well those statistics were interesting. Thanks to the both of you and thanks Margin for pointing me to that tool. --86.21.101.169 (talk) 01:15, 22 September 2014 (UTC)

Use of Internet Archive images (flickr stream)

Hi. Hopefully someone has thought about this before. I'm interested in using the millions of images recently uploaded by Internet Archive, but I'm not sure if I can freely use them on Wikipedia. https://www.flickr.com/photos/internetarchivebookimages/ is the URL. If I click on a random image, it says "No known copyright restrictions" and "Public". But if I do a search, say for "fish", there is a License filter near the top of the page which has following options, Any License; Creative Commons only; Commercial use allowed; Modifications allowed.

Basically, do I need to apply this filter every time I search for images, so that I only use "Commercial use allowed" images? Annoyingly, the individual image pages don't mention the Creative Commons status of the image (Commercial use allowed, or Modifications allowed).

• confused* Marvinthefish (talk) 20:10, 20 September 2014 (UTC)

Hello Marvinthefish, I don't know everything about copyright licenses or this archive, but I would be very careful about using it. Just to check it out I did a random seach (Gothenburg) and right away spotted two pics that would be inadmissible on the Wikipedia for copyright reasons since the things in the pics were copyrighted. One was a fairly new stamp and the other one was a toy. And you must have had some sort of luck when you clicked on random pics to get the "No known copyright restrictions" or "Public". When I clicked at random, I got all kinds of "All rights reserved" and other copyright notices. Hopefully some more experienced editor will come along and add to this answer. Best, w.carter-Talk 20:55, 20 September 2014 (UTC)

I explored a bit more, and I think that the more correct link to the old pictures is this and the search box is a bit down the page. The link above is to all of the pictures at Flickr. But a picture still have to have all of the license boxes ticked, or marked with the "No known copyright restrictions" to be used on the Wikipedia. w.carter-Talk 21:18, 20 September 2014 (UTC)

Heya @Marvinthefish:! You might want to ask this same question at Wikipedia:Media copyright questions which is a place designed exactly for questions like the one you asked; it is patrolled by people who tend to have a bit more knowledge about copyright issues and the like. Good luck! --Jayron32 21:06, 20 September 2014 (UTC)

Great! Thank you so much for those answers. I'll definitely try over at Wikipedia:Media copyright questions. With so many images available, it would be important to know if we can use them on WP. Marvinthefish (talk) 08:05, 21 September 2014 (UTC)

Namaste, Marvinthefish. You may freely use the material of Internet Archive's collection. If in doubt, simply review the excellent descriptions provided by IA and look for the license information (commonly located on the right side of the page). Wikimedia Commons would be the appropriate place to upload such material, and we've already a substantial number of them (see commons:Category:Files from Internet Archive Book Images Flickr stream.) -- dsprc ^[talk] 12:27, 21 September 2014 (UTC)

Who is < https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Mean_as_custard > ??

Who is < https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Mean_as_custard > ?? Microtexnano (talk) 17:09, 20 September 2014 (UTC)

Hello Microtexnano and welcome to the Teahouse. Mean_as_custard is an editor who joined the Wikipedia on 7 nov 2009, 17:43, and has so far made 83 763 edits here. That is all anyone knows. All users identities are unknown unless the user wants to reveal it their self. There is no "hidden record" of user names and identities. If you want to know anything about a user, go and ask at their user page. Best, w.carter-Talk 17:27, 20 September 2014 (UTC)

Thank you for the information regarding mean custard.

Mean_as_custard a British?Microtexnano (talk) 17:34, 20 September 2014 (UTC)

We don't know, and it is totally irrelevant; however, he or she is a very experienced editor, and I would take their advice, rather than continuously adding vast amounts of highly promotional material to Grace Christian College - which appears to be your only interest here. - Arjayay (talk) 17:41, 20 September 2014 (UTC)

How to correct spelling of a name?

In the "List of Historic Buildings in Klamath Falls, Oregon, the builder's name is listed as Willard B. Miller, which should be Willard D. Miller, or as he was most often called, W. D. Miller who operated the W. D. Miller Construction Co. and built numerous structures in Klamath Falls. He was my father. How do I correct his name?71.214.80.22 (talk) 16:21, 20 September 2014 (UTC)

Looks like someone has fixed it [1] . Keihatsu ^talk 17:08, 20 September 2014 (UTC)

(edit conflict) Hello user with an IP-number and welcome to the Teahouse. In order to change something in an article, you have to come up with a reliable source to back it up. Even if he was your father, and I'm sure both you and he are honorable men, that is not enough for an encyclopedia. However, I went source-hunting and found a form about the building from the United States Department of interior, which must be considered a reliable source, and it clearly states that "The building was built by W.D. Miller...". So, with the source in place as a reference I took the liberty of correcting your fathers name in the list. I only had to add (builder): Willard D. Miller (builder) to his name since there is another man with the same name who has an article here on the Wikipedia: Willard D. Miller. Hope that's ok with you. Best, w.carter-Talk 17:13, 20 September 2014 (UTC)

And I've de-linked Willard Hotel as that was a "false-link" which redirected to Willard InterContinental Washington - Arjayay (talk) 17:24, 20 September 2014 (UTC)

Links to Wikipedia in other launguages

I'm a complete beginner and intend making a contribution on the same subject to the English version and the Italian version of Wikipedia. My contribution includes a list of people who are on or the other, but not both and other people who are (for example) on the Spanish or German version When I requested help on the Italian Wikipedia, I was told in that it was against the rules to include links to other language versions (although I attemped an it works), but I should create a "red" link to a page that says there is no page on the person in question (which theoretically should encourage another contributor to create the missing page). Are the Wikipedia rules not the same worldwide? If so is the sort of link I'd like to include (Interwikilink?) allowed or not? ScozzeseVolante (talk) 16:00, 20 September 2014 (UTC)

Hi, ScozzeseVolante and welcome to The Teahouse. Each Wikipedia has its own rules. I think it's possible for you to include a link from the English Wikipedia to other language versions. The answer to how is in here somewhere and I'll have to look.— Vchimpanzee • talk • contributions • 18:02, 20 September 2014 (UTC)

Okay, I see you asked the question here, and you received an answer. Please don't ask a question in more than one place unless it takes you a long time to get an answer.— Vchimpanzee • talk • contributions • 18:04, 20 September 2014 (UTC)

(edit conflict) :Hi ScozzeseVolante. I see you've also asked this at the help desk where you have answers. Let's continue the conversation there. --NeilN ^{talk to me} 18:06, 20 September 2014 (UTC)

How to edit the Wikipedia page?

Dear Team, I am new to Wikipedia, and I have some questions (my user name is: Lotus Flower in the Modern Art). I would like to add new information about new movement in the art and information about contemporary artists.

• What rules must be followed to edit page (for example: Contemporary Art or Expressionism)?

Thanks, Lotus Flower in the Modern Art 134.90.0.217 (talk) 02:31, 20 September 2014 (UTC)

Hello and welcome Lotus Flower in the Modern Art.

Some senior person will guide you about editing.

I only removed blank spaces in your message.

Aftab Banoori ^(Talk) 06:34, 20 September 2014 (UTC

Hello there, Lotus Flower in the Modern Art. At Wikipedia, we doesn't have specific editing guidelines, just make sure than your change is constructive (helpful to the encyclopedia). I have left a welcome message at your talk page, which you could read the useful links in it. Thanks for making the encyclopedia better! Romtam^TalkToMe 06:57, 20 September 2014 (UTC)

Hello, IP editor. Editing Wikipedia can be very complicated, but the core principles are relatively simple. In my opinion, the most important thing to keep in mind is that our job as Wikipedia editors is to summarize what high quality, reliable independent published sources say about a topic. It is not to inject our own opinions, judgments and conclusions into articles. If you keep that basic principle in mind, you can be a successful Wikipedia editor. Cullen³²⁸ Let's discuss it 07:17, 20 September 2014 (UTC)

Namaste, Lotus. You may be interested in reviewing the standard Wikipedia:Tutorial or, you could check out the interactive tutorial over at WP:The Wikipedia Adventure. Both of these should offer guidance on your first steps in Wikipedia and both are excellent resources for new contributors. They each present information in a unique way but the lessons are largely the same. -- dsprc ^[talk] 07:54, 20 September 2014 (UTC)

Is it conflict of interest?

I am the curator of a museum in a historic building. I understand it would be inappropriate for me to edit an article discussing the building's use as a museum while working here, but is it a COI if I make edits to an article about the history of the building before its present use? Thanks, Carlaldrich (talk) 21:56, 19 September 2014 (UTC)

The challenge you face is whether the building is, of itself, part of the exhibits in the museum. If so then the history is also about a museum exhibit. But you will drive yourself nuts here. The real question is, "Can you make the edits in an entirely WP:NPOV manner, and, where necessary, with citations/references?" While other editors may differ, my view is that,. if you can do this, and do not succumb to WP:OWN, then you can make these edits with a good heart.

Declaring what you intend to do on the talk page before you do it is appropriate.

If you cannot do it then there are mechanisms to request others to consider the edits you wish to make. Fiddle Faddle 22:35, 19 September 2014 (UTC)

Thanks for your insight. I'll definitely be careful with what I write and request edits as needed. It's more clear the way you explain it. Carlaldrich (talk) 22:59, 19 September 2014 (UTC)

As long as it's NPOV there should be no problem whatsoever and keep in mind that NPOV does not mean that one has to source everything, for example : adding information and noting that the package is orange is not considered NPOV but saying that the product itself is the "best in the universe" is. So, is it orange? Or a fabulous building? Orasis (talk) 09:26, 22 September 2014 (UTC)

Article for deletion?

Hi! I hve been editing a few pages and I recently came across this article:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Danie_Cortese_Entertainment I have been contemplating whether to request this article for deletion or whether to improve it. What must I do? The page has been deleted a few times, but it ends up either being edited like an advertisment or with less information. Thanks King Cobra (talk) 20:31, 19 September 2014 (UTC)

@6033CloudyRainbowTrail: Hey, thanks for your question. On its face, the article is probably a good candidate for speedy deletion as an unremarkable company, so you could nominate it if you were thinking about it. Just be sure to notify the article creator as well. If the article has been repeatedly recreated with no attempt to address the issues, the reviewing administrator will probably protect the article from being recreated until evidence that the company is notable comes to surface. I, JethroBT ^{drop me a line} 22:05, 19 September 2014 (UTC)

@6033CloudyRainbowTrail: Well done for spotting this. I've deleted the article and protected it from recreation by anyone other than an admin.  Philg88 ^♦talk 09:05, 20 September 2014 (UTC)

Thanks! And I meant to say "the page has been edited a few times" not deleted. Sorry. King Cobra (talk) 19:10, 21 September 2014 (UTC)

Short story with same title as short story collection

There are a number of first edition short story collections by Mark Twain named the same as one of his famous short stories. These are COLLECTIONS and contain many other stories as well.

Short story articles already exist for most of these on Wikipedia, and someone has linked photos of - in many cases the wrongly-attributed covers of the short story collections (ex. the photo of the British first edition saying it's the American first edition), etc. I'd like to correct the attributions and find no way to edit the data on the right hand side of the page.

ALSO - it seems silly to create entirely new pages for the COLLECTIONS containing the titular short stories. I'd like to add the collection data to the short story article. Is that considered good Wikipedia form? It seems having two entries, one for the story and one for the short story collection would just create page proliferation issues.

What to do? Create a new page for the short story collection, or add info on the collection to the short story page of the same title. Sa magnuson33 (talk) 20:29, 19 September 2014 (UTC)

Welcome to the Teahouse, Sa magnuson33. It seems that your question has two parts, one practical and one more philosophical. As for editing "the data on the right side of the page", I assume that you are referring to the infobox. Those are generated by a template at the very beginning of the wikicode. If you edit wikicode "the old fashioned way", it is very similar to any other editing, although you have to be very careful about the syntax. The Visual Editor has some quirks, and in all honesty, I do not use it. One way or another, you edit the infobox.

As for whether Wikipedia should have separate articles about Twain short story collections, as opposed to just articles about the eponymous short stories, that is a question of notability. If reliable sources devote significant coverage to the collections as a topic separate from the title stories, then the answer is "yes". Although not a Mark Twain expert, I believe that he is indisputably a major author, and that an encyclopedia comprehensive enough to offer 4.6 million articles to its readers probably should have an article on every book, including short story collections, published under the Twain byline. Cullen³²⁸ Let's discuss it 07:35, 20 September 2014 (UTC)

Wrote an article but only parts of it show up in preview

Hi there, I've wrote an article in my sandbox but when I preview it only part of what I have written is showing up. Could you help me with this? Innovatepsych (talk) 02:31, 19 September 2014 (UTC)

Welcome to the Teahouse, Innovatepsych. There was a misplaced slash in one of your references. I fixed it for you. This is a common syntax error that has the unfortunate side effect of suppressing display of the content that follows. Cullen³²⁸ Let's discuss it 02:57, 19 September 2014 (UTC)

Thanks so much! Didn't realise it could be something so small. Innovatepsych (talk) 06:12, 21 September 2014 (UTC)

Mentoring

Hey teahouse, So I need some peer-review. I'm trying out mentoring new users and I want to know if you guys think I'm doing a good job or not. Here's my adoptee's adoption page. Please look through the lessons and task's I gave and let me know if I'm doing good. I am extremely open to constructive criticism. Thanks!Mirror Freak 13:19, 18 September 2014 (UTC)

You appear to have joined on July 15 of this year and you shouldn't be mentoring anyone. Your response here as well as this one and this one today suggest that you could use a mentor yourself as these are unacceptable. You should strike them and apologize.
 — Berean Hunter (talk) 14:42, 18 September 2014 (UTC)

I accept responsibility for that. Did you look at the lesson's I'm giving my adoptee though?Mirror Freak 14:51, 18 September 2014 (UTC)

All I really want to know is if my lesson's are good or bad and how can I improve them.Mirror Freak 15:01, 18 September 2014 (UTC)

No, the red flags that I saw precluded looking further. Thank you for striking those comments. Another suggestion would be to not call people dude as I have been seeing in your communications. You will come across as more professional and garner more respect that way.
 — Berean Hunter (talk) 15:06, 18 September 2014 (UTC)

But if he's not being paid to edit Wikipedia (yet?!?), then does he need to appear more professional? Or is it merely to avoid the ire of individuals such as Salvatore Rivieri? (The only versions of the original Rivieri video still on YouTube appear to infringe the brave young citizen journalist cameraman's copyright, so I won't link them here, but they do explain the relevance...) --Demiurge1000 (talk) 21:16, 18 September 2014 (UTC)

@Demiurge1000: Behaving in a professional manner is not about whether or not one is being paid. How you choose to behave should be informed by the effect you intend to have on others; when someone is saying to behave "professionally", they are merely asking you to behave in a manner which elicits a certain emotional response from the receiver. The words we choose to use, the way we choose to interact with others, the way we treat others all establish an atmosphere within a working environment like Wikipedia; and that's why we want people to behave "professionally". Behaving professionally is done because you want to establish an atmosphere and because you are cognizant of how your own behavior influences the behavior of others. It has nothing to do with being paid. --Jayron32 12:22, 19 September 2014 (UTC)

behave in a manner which elicits a certain emotional response from the receiver - sounds almost manipulative. I much prefer spontaneity; when engaging in unpaid volunteer work, anyway. Happy editing! --Demiurge1000 (talk) 22:15, 19 September 2014 (UTC)

@Demiurge1000: EVERY interaction you have with someone elicits an emotional response of some sort. It has nothing to do with manipulation. It has to do with the fact that when you say something, there is a real person who is hearing it, and that real person will have a real response to it. You can either fumble through life, being constantly shocked and befuddled by the way people respond to you, or you can take some responsibility for your own actions, and take some understanding of how the way you deal with people (such as behaving professionally in certain contexts) will have an effect on how they then view you, and how they respond to your behavior. It's entirely up to you, but to claim that people don't have the right to react naturally to boorish, unprofessional behavior isn't going to get you far. People will still react that way. That's why you should behave with decorum and professionalism: because we want Wikipedia to be the sort of environment people want to contribute to. Being willfully ignorant of the effect of one's actions does not excuse one from culpability for those effects. --Jayron32 18:22, 20 September 2014 (UTC)

No-one is suggesting, nor indeed recommending, "boorish" behaviour. Where did that come from? I also hope that no-one is suggesting any has occurred. What has occurred is a suggestion that a newer editor should purposefully change the way they normally communicate with their peers (an informal friendly manner of communication, such as might be appropriate at a Teahouse, though perhaps not a formal Japanese tea ceremony) in order to mimic a supposed "professional" tone of how much more experienced editors write, to fit in better at Wikipedia. That's not a good thing, not least because Wikipedia should aim to be welcoming, not a place where we force people to standardise how they talk and interact to fit our mould. There are also lots of ways in which pretending to be something one is not can cause problems. You may be able to think of a few in this particular context, but one is what happened to User:Wikicology at ANI recently after they copied - on numerous occasions - distinctive phrases used by one of Wikipedia's oldest and most experienced British admins.

I'm a professional in real life, and have been for longer than some Wikipedia editors have been alive. And no, I don't "fumble through" it. But being a lawyer in real life doesn't mean I play one on TV or on Wikipedia. I'm not paid to provide my professional skills here, and thus I'm not going to address people as "Dear Sir" here, and if I choose to call someone "dude" on Wikipedia, then they will just have to live with it. Or they could, as you put it, "react naturally" in the same manner as the police officer in those videos I mentioned reacted according to his nature, but that isn't going to get them very far on Wikipedia.

I think we've now strayed rather far from what the Teahouse is for - and your comment immediately above is particularly not appropriate here - so if you want to discuss this further then I suggest my or your talk page. (Or the Village Pump if it's really that important!) --Demiurge1000 (talk) 18:47, 20 September 2014 (UTC)

Alright. I got that down. So what do I do about my adoptee? I can't just drop him.Mirror Freak 15:11, 18 September 2014 (UTC)

Hello MirrorFreak, I know that you have grown considerably since you joined the Wikipedia (this is shown by the way you take your responsibility towards your adoptee) and while you may not be ready for an actual adoptee, you can still be a friend and guide to him/her and give advise on how to do simpler editing, how to find things at the Wikipedia, stay out of trouble, and so on. It is sometimes easier and less intimidating for a newbie to have someone who is closer in "Wiki-age" for basic questions. Just guide "your" newbie to a page where s(he) can be adopted by a senior editor the same way you were once adopted. And stay friends! Btw, being called "dude" always puts a smile on my face, but not everyone has my quirky sense of humor^^, and you should always be correct and polite when addressing a stranger. Save the puns for your friends. Best, w.carter-Talk 19:52, 18 September 2014 (UTC)

First article

I am new and recently created an article which is a history of a company for which there was no entry in Wikipedia. I created the text and references in my sandbox and selected "Press your draft for review". I later found a hyperlink to an abbreviation of that company however this had no content. So I decided to add to the hyperlink. I revised the article and again selected "Press your draft for review". I think I have created two lots of content for the same topic but I don't know where to check. Thank you for your assistance. Cala Munda (talk) 02:05, 18 September 2014 (UTC)

Hi @Cala Munda: You can always view a history of your contributions by clicking on the "Contributions" link at the very top-right corner of each page. Alternatively, you can head to Special:Contributions/Cala Munda. By the looks of it, you do indeed have two drafts for the same article: User:Cala Munda/SAGASCO and User:Cala Munda/sandbox. If you'd like to have one of them deleted, you can request speedy deletion under U1 criteria by placing {{Db-u1}} at the top of the page (which is how you request the deletion of pages in your userspace). An administrator should delete the page for you in due time.

Also note that if you intended to submit the drafts for review, you haven't actually done so yet. After you click the green "Submit your draft for review" button, you have to scroll to the bottom and click the "Save page" button, as you would do for any other edit. Hope this helps! ~SuperHamster Talk Contribs 17:16, 18 September 2014 (UTC)

Hi @SuperHamster. Thank you for your advice. Cala Munda (talk) 08:05, 21 September 2014 (UTC)

Entering photos from my Wikipedia account into the 'Wiki Loves Monuments' contest.

Hi I would like to know whether it's possible to enter a photo into the monuments contest that I've already added to an article on Wikipedia. First of all I'm not sure whether this is allowed and if it is I would like to know how to do this? I'm an absolute newbie so I'm a bit stuck and can't seem to make it work. Or should I just upload the same photo again with a different file name or something like that? Thanks! Joyen69 (talk) 23:33, 21 September 2014 (UTC)

Hi Joyen69, the 'Wiki Loves Monuments' contest is hosted by Commons and you have to ask at the Commons Help desk for this. Nice picture by the way!. Best, w.carter-Talk 23:51, 21 September 2014 (UTC)

edward (ted) kennedy historians

I opened an account to try to get in touch with some of the editors to find Edward (ted) Moore Kennedy historians. I was hoping to be able to speak, chat with them 1 on 1. How can I get intouch with Ted Kennedy historian. Is it possible to do so here? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Saggem10 (talk • contribs) 05:25, 23 September 2014 (UTC)

Hello Saggem10, welcome to the Teahouse. Wikipedia is not the type website through which you can contact people directly. But the helpers at the Wikipedia:Reference desk/Humanities forum are very knowledgeable: If you ask there, they may be able to tell you how to contact them. —teb728 t c 08:19, 23 September 2014 (UTC)