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Tahmasp's Ottoman Campaign

Please remember to complete Tahmasp's Ottoman Campaign. --I dream of horses If you reply here, please leave me a {{Talkback}} message on my talk page. @ 22:51, 10 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Of course, I am doing a marathon of article writing and research and should complete all the battles/campaigns/sieges included in the Naderian wars. I think I will complete all of them by the end of this month.

Good work so far! :)

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I saw the recent load of articles you created regarding the great wars of Nader Shah. Great work. By the way, won't you forget to make more articles for his Caucasian campaign as well? Nader made three invasions in the Caucasus to squash the rebellions in Dagestan, as you know.

Regards — Preceding unsigned comment added by 94.210.203.230 (talk) 22:58, 10 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you

I was wondering if anyone at all was even noticing the new articles I was adding until your comment. Thanks for noticing and to answer your question, yes I intend to make an exhaustive & encyclopaedic narration of all his battles/campaigns/sieges especially the Caucasian ones. I should be able to finish by the end of this month before university starts. Do feel free to message me with any criticisms and advice as I would appreciate it.

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Hi, I am uncertain of why I was blocked due to my contribution to battle of bint jbeil article where I provided a reputable source to the two word contribution. However it was reverted 2 or 3 times and I decided to revert it back as no justification was given on the talk page of the article. I can guarantee I won't edit the article again as my main area of contribution is completely unrelated in any case. I would like to be unblocked so I can continue with my Naderian Wars articles which I created and in the process of completing from scratch. Thank youParsa1993 (talk) 16:15, 12 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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No I am not "vandalising" the page as I had only made one change and that is the number of ISIS killed and probably made an accidental on the ISIS strength that is all. So apologies. Thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 0ali1 (talkcontribs) 22:21, 13 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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Hi, Moeen al-Kadhimi has been mentioned in the source I provided, but the source use the spelling "Main" as his first name. I used "Moeen" because it has been used in sources more widely. Regarding al-Sadr, one of the sources I added to the article, csmonitor I guess, says Muqtada al-Sadr has sent 1,500 militiamen of the Peace Brigades to participate in the battle. Moreover, I assume the Peace Brigades does not operate under command of the Popular Mobilization Committee (I'm not sure, though, just guessing), so I thought it's important to explicity mention the name of the commander of this particular group. --Z 18:39, 15 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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Strength in Tikrit battle

Read your sources please more carefully. It doesn't say the ISF, Shiite militiamen and Sunni Tribesmen are part of the 9,000 engaged force, instead they are part of the overall force. The Al-Jazeera source does not say 2,000 in addition to 5,000 ISF & Militia. Instead, it says 2,000 arrived that day, while an official had said the previous week that 5,000 would join. So the 2,000 confirmed are part of those 5,000 predicted. I could not find absolutely any source that says 20,000 of the 20,000-30,000 force are militiamen. Only the one source that confirmed 2,000 had arrived. Also, I could not find any sources for 3,000 regulars. And the source provided confirms 700-1,000 Sunni tribesmen, not just 1,000. EkoGraf (talk) 00:39, 16 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Here [1], source clearly says the battle is lead by the ISF with the militias in a back-up role, which means there is no way the militias outnumber the regulars. EkoGraf (talk) 00:44, 16 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Added a source for the upper estimate of 5,000 Sunnis. EkoGraf (talk) 00:48, 16 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for the sources, I've updated accordingly. PS No need for so many refs hehe, one or two is enough. EkoGraf (talk) 01:16, 16 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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Casualties revert

In regard to your revert of my edit on the number of Iraqi casualties. There is nothing OR or speculative about it. Read the source more carefully please. It clearly says 127 non-militiamen were registered buried at the Najaf cemetery, while one of the militia groups reported 26 of their fighters were additionally killed. That makes a total of minimum 153 dead. As for the upper estimate. It was reported from the body collection centers that they receive on a daily average since the battle started 40-60 bodies from Tikrit. That would make an upper estimate of 840 bodies for the 14 days the battle has lasted up until the report was made and this is in line with WP: CALC. I will try some compromise wording. EkoGraf (talk) 13:39, 17 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

what do you think about this?

Hello Parsa,

I was fixing the lede in the Nader Shah's invasion of Mughal India, and I was thinking of putting this into it, but I wanted to hear your opinion first. If you agree, I'll put it between the part where it says he has invaded and defeated at karnal etc, and the part that he could affort fighting against neighbouring ottoman turkey.

Basically this;

When a rumour broke out in Delhi that Nader had been assassinated, some of the Indians attacked and killed Persian troops. Nader, furious, reacted by ordering his soldiers to completely plunder and sack the city. During the course of one day (March 22) 20,000 to 30,000 Indians were killed by the Persian troops.[1] During the massacre, the Mughal emperor Muhammad Shah had to beg Nader to grant him and his people mercy, before ceding the keys of the city and royal treasury to him.[2] In response, Nader Shah agreed to withdraw, but Mohammad Shah paid the consequence in handing over the keys of his royal treasury, and losing even the Peacock Throne to the Persian emperor. The Peacock Throne thereafter served as a symbol of Persian imperial might. Among a trove of other fabulous jewels, Nader also gained the Koh-i-Noor and Darya-ye Noor diamonds (Koh-i-Noor means "Mountain of Light" in Persian, Darya-ye Noor means "Sea of Light"). The Persian troops left Delhi at the beginning of May 1739. Nader's soldiers also took with them thousands of elephants, horses and camels, loaded with the booty they had collected. The plunder seized from India was so rich that Nader stopped taxation in Iran and all its territories for a period of three years following his return.[3]

Let me know what you think about it. I think personally it be a little bit too much info for a lede.

- LouisAragon (talk) 23:39, 26 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]

I am sure that this will make a valuable addition to the article if you can integrate it into the section under "Massacre".Parsa1993 (talk) 00:01, 27 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]

References

  1. ^ Marshman, P. 200
  2. ^ Soul and Structure of Governance in India. Retrieved 26 May 2014.
  3. ^ This section: Axworthy pp.1-16, 175-210
Aight, I agree about that. Thanks for your response. - LouisAragon (talk) 14:39, 28 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]

undiscussed move

What do you think about this? [2] - LouisAragon (talk) 00:17, 7 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

As to the proposal that we should replace Mughal empire with Sardar empire, I understand that there have been numerous names given to the empire including Gurkani, Teimuri, Sardar empire and so on. But by far the most common title bestowed upon the empire in English language literature and history is simply Mughal empire which I think is good enough.Parsa1993 (talk) 11:03, 7 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Ghafouri, History of Iran's Wars

Could you please give the ISBN of this source which you added on a number of Wikipedia articles, including Siege of Baghdad (1733). I was unable to find it on WorldCat. --bender235 (talk) 23:36, 23 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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Persian gulf campaign

Hey Parsa, the persian gulf campaign of nader only mentions the sultanate of Muscat and some unnamed pirate groups and sultanates. I was hoping you'd be able to find exactly what other sultanates nader conquered in the persian gulf. That way I may be able to expand the map of his empire in the persian gulf. Did he conquer Bahrain, Qatar or Kuwait?

Would be great if you could find out

Happy thanksgiving

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I know beyond a doubt that he conquered Bahrain and the northern rim of the Arabian peninsula from the Hormuz strait stretching all the way round to the gulf of Oman and to the Arabian sea. As to what polities and factions were involved in these regions I would need to do some thorough research before expanding the article. Currently I am pouring through books and documents for the battle of Karnal which needs a major expansion. Parsa1993 (talk) 16:39, 11 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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Nader Shah Article

Hello, i saw that on the Naderian wars article there is a bit more information about the war than on the Nader Shah Article. Should that extra information be transferred to nader shah article?Nader Shah (talk) 02:41, 4 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

P.S. could you also create the articles about Battle of Herat (1729), Battle of Andalal, Battle of Avaria, and Siege of Baghdad (1743)? And could you also expand on the articles about nader shah's indian invasion. i dont want to put load on you but i personally think these are necessary

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Hi, I think those sections of the Naderian article which expand upon the person of Nader Shah are necessary to the article and provide a better understanding of the wars. Hence I do not believe their removal to another article is necessary. As to your question about the other articles I agree that the battle of karnal and battle of kars are terribly short and uninformative articles which need to be dramatically expanded. I will be doing this soon. Parsa1993 (talk) 08:44, 4 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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Hey Parsa1993, regarding this edit, the source literally states "crushingly", but I guess we can indeed use soundly indeed as well? Just wanted to see what your opinion is, so we will both use consistent terminations for the future. Bests - LouisAragon (talk) 13:52, 11 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, the source does state "crushing defeat" but I just thought "crushingly" sounded quite odd and I've never heard that before. Soundly beaten or decisively beaten sound much more standard. That's all. Parsa1993 (talk) 13:58, 11 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

@Parsa1993:, hey man, regarding this spree, I've reverted everything back to your last edits as its simply warring from their part, while totally disregarding reliable sources given (even literally quoted) by highly noted historians. If they revert it again without actually writing something on the talk page (which I doubt) you can report them easily. Agha Mohammad khan died two years after the conquest,!and the Russians moved into Tbilisi in 1799. However, for those two years prior to his death Georgia was definetely again under Iranian rule. I have absolutely no objections against rewording if they can actually find a source that literally/specifically states that it was not (re)-conquered, but I doubt they'll ever get one of those. Rewording is an option too, if they well argumentise their concerns with the inclusion of references. Anyways, we'll see. Bests - LouisAragon (talk) 09:28, 12 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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I was hoping you could make some articles aboutthe wars of Timur. There are alot of red links in the list of battles box. thanks
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Parsa, has anyone ever recognized your efforts? Despite your amazing job on the Battle of Karnal article and battles related to Nader Shah, people seem to have a taste for reverting. Any "Barnstars"?

To be honest I was only ever interested in creating those articles because I felt that it was a shame that there were virtually no wikipedia articles on Nader's spectacular military career. All I wanted was to establish a rudimentary pool of historiography for one one the most interesting military careers of the eighteenth century for anyone who was interested in that fascinating era. I couldn't care less about any rewards or Barnstars. Just the fact that you read the Karnal article and thought it did a good job covering the events of the battle is more than good enough for me. I only hope I did the subject matter at least a measure of justice, and of course thank you for your kind words.Parsa1993 (talk) 03:38, 26 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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Found images for Nader Shah Battles

http://www.teheran.ir/spip.php?article1970#gsc.tab=0 . There are tons of paintings of Nader Shah's battles from this french site. I think they would be very useful in your articles about Nader's battles. Hope this helps — Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.71.142.104 (talk) 17:51, 17 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]

What about copyright issues?Parsa1993 (talk) 23:24, 17 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Ooooooh your right..... maybe it's old enough to be in public domain now... not sure. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.114.66.196 (talk) 05:32, 18 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]

This file: https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:%D9%86%D8%A7%D8%AF%D8%B1_%D9%88_%D8%B3%D9%BE%D8%A7%D9%87%DB%8C%D8%A7%D9%86%D8%B4.jpg from commons got away with it....