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July 20

Sony CMT-HPX7 disc player troubleshoot

Is there a website that deals with problems of Sony CMT-HPX7 especially with the disc player part? My one reads and skips and reads another one and skips that one. I am fed up with this jukebox. Please and thanks. Donmust90 (talk) 01:41, 20 July 2016 (UTC)Donmust90Donmust90 (talk) 01:41, 20 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]

We do not offer technical advice. If the device is still within warranty, you may want to contact Sony directly. Otherwise, the disc player may be nearing the end of its operating life.--WaltCip (talk) 13:24, 20 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Something to try is a CD cleaner. You put some alcohol solution on it and it cleans the device. You can probably buy one at a record store. Certainly no guarantee that it will fix the problem, but it's a cheap solution if it works. StuRat (talk) 14:12, 20 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]
A solution in more ways than one. Two, to be precise. -- Jack of Oz [pleasantries] 00:48, 21 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Salut ! StuRat (talk) 04:17, 21 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Na zdorovye! -- Jack of Oz [pleasantries] 08:13, 21 July 2016 (UTC) [reply]

Indian 4chan and reddit users being called "POO"

When identifiable Indian users (shown by their geolocation flag) post on 4chan or reddit, other users often follow up their posts with "POO" in all capitals. Multiple different users from all different counties do this and it is only ever targeted at Indians. What does it mean? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 111.252.137.230 (talk) 15:58, 20 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]

It may refer to sanitation issues in India. See e.g. here [1] or here [2] for descriptions of how 4chan mocks India/ Indians with respect to fecal matter.
For information on sanitation in India, see e.g. Water_supply_and_sanitation_in_India.
(P.S. 4chan is widely known for being full of racists, bigots, misogynists as well as other sorts of generally ignorant and mean-spirited misanthropes. So do your self a favor and don't hang out there ;) SemanticMantis (talk) 16:49, 20 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, D E S I G N A T E D (for "designated shitting streets") is another common phrase to see. clpo13(talk) 16:51, 20 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Agree. 4chan is a bigoted Internet hellhole. Gamergate has made it worse by validating misogyny. --WaltCip (talk) 17:20, 21 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]

How many people are known to have been hit by a ballpark's balls while outside of it?

Outside the exterior walls of any kind of ballpark except for (un)official ball catching areas like McCovey Cove. If you manage to get hit while trying to catch it that's not surprising.

What about cricket stadiums, golf courses and track and field tracks? (I don't think a field implement has gone further than "near the runners") Sagittarian Milky Way (talk) 23:28, 20 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]

I'm almost positive there is no complete record of everyone it by a sporting implement from the entire history of sport. Even just taking baseball, there are on any given day in the U.S. literally over a hundred professional baseball games. No one is cataloging every ball that hit someone outside the stadium over the course of 150 years of professional baseball. Major league stadiums, being larger, are less likely to have balls leave the stadium entirely, but even there it does happen. here is a pretty good article about famous instances of that happening in the Majors. The most recent such occurrence is when Nelson Cruz did so about a month ago: [3]. In smaller minor league baseball parks, many of which have no outfield bleachers, it happens much more frequently. Whether any such balls have ever struck a person is hard to answer, but I'd find it odd in all of the history of millions of games, it has never happened.--Jayron32 00:15, 21 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]
I concur that there's no way to know. If something really bad happened, like someone being killed, it would be a news item for a while, and it might be in public death records, so could be counted, with a lot of research. But someone merely being hit (or their vehicle being hit) probably would not get covered in the media. When major league parks were the size of today's high level minor league parks, there were lots of baseballs hit out of the park, fair and foul. Babe Ruth hit one in Detroit that went across the intersection of Cherry and Trumbull, about 575 feet on the fly. No indication anyone was hit, though that doesn't mean it didn't happen. ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots01:42, 21 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Every single one of them, they were known to/by someone. That's the answer to the question in the heading. Now, if the question had been " How many people are known to have been hit...", the answer would be different. Yeah, it's a slow day today.. Moriori (talk) 02:02, 21 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]

The OP's question is was worded rather awkwardly. ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots02:53, 21 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]
The question reminded me of Miller v Jackson, known to generations of law students for Lord Denning's opening "In summertime village cricket is the delight of everyone...". Though I'm not sure anyone was actually hit by the cricket balls in question. --PalaceGuard008 (Talk) 11:13, 21 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]
If they had, it could knock the de-lights out of them. ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots11:32, 21 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]
The earlier case of Bolton v Stone (1951) is also relevant. Our article also quotes a US case: "Rinaldo v. McGovern (1991) ruled that two golfers, one of whom hit a golf ball which struck the plaintiff's automobile, were not liable to the plaintiff. The court opined that golf is a game in which even the most skilled players cannot avoid hitting shots off target on some occasion, and a player would be liable for a mis-hit ball only if the player had 'aimed so inaccurately as to unreasonably increase the risk of harm.'" Alansplodge (talk) 16:33, 23 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]
This article and the ones linked from it seem to indicate that even grossly inaccurate golfers may escape liability in various US jurisdictions. Tevildo (talk) 19:29, 23 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]

July 21

Very important, please read

Unanswerable - see details inside. -- Jack of Oz [pleasantries] 08:04, 21 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]
The following discussion has been closed. Please do not modify it.

What should I wear tomorrow? Seeing a really hot girl.--Armanikoka (talk) 00:26, 21 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]

@Armanikoka: The reference desk is not for opinions. If you asked "what are some currently popular styles of clothing" or "how would I dress in (whatever style)," we'd be better able to help you. There's also the problem that we don't know what you have and you probably don't have time to go out and buy a new wardrobe. Ian.thomson (talk) 00:32, 21 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]
An air conditioner. ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots01:35, 21 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]
A wonderful ice cream suit. (The poster formerly known as 87.81.230.195} 2.123.26.60 (talk) 03:14, 21 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]
It is difficult to answer this question as your gender is not defined. Richard Avery (talk) 06:57, 21 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Reasons for hatting

  • This is completely out of the scope of this desk, because it's not something we could ever find a reference for.
  • Even if it were something we could tackle, we have no idea of the OP's sex, sexuality, location, age, size, taste in clothes, budget, yada yada yada. We should actively discourage such questions being asked here. A RL ref desk would simply say "Sorry, we can't help".
  • Some questions should just be left alone after the OP has been informed we can't help. -- Jack of Oz [pleasantries] 08:04, 21 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Jack of Oz: I don't know if your hatting was right or wrong, but nicely done - Reasons for hatting... -- Apostle (talk) 05:39, 22 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]

July 22

What is a "silent cheer"?

This story has been making the rounds recently - an Australian school has banned applause in its assemblies: instead, the pupils students service users recipients of education must perform a "silent cheer". But what does this involve? A preliminary Google search is only coming up with this news story, and metaphorical uses of the term. Tevildo (talk) 00:44, 22 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]

It's described right there in the article you linked. "If you've been to a school assembly recently, you may have noticed our students doing silent cheers," it said. "Instead of clapping, the students are free to punch the air, pull excited faces and wriggle about on the spot.
Deaf people often 'clap' by putting their hands in the air, with fingers stretched out, and rotating their wrist back and forth, and/or wiggling fingers. (short example) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.20.193.222 (talk) 02:04, 22 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks, I didn't immediately make the connection. Do we know if it's something this school has devised independently, or does it have a separate origin? Tevildo (talk) 21:36, 22 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Does the "excited face" you "pull" have to be your own? Edison (talk) 23:33, 22 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Is article 50 of the Lisbon treaty reversible?

The Independent newspaper makes a claim that Article 50 of the Lisbon treaty is reversible:

10. Triggering Article 50 is reversible! Not many people know this. But the UK can formally trigger its Article 50 request and then withdraw the request before Brexit actually takes place, if the country wants to.

I find this rather dubious. Unless there is some other rule or regulation that controls this it seems quite clear that there are three possible outcomes of invoking the article; ; extension, leaving with a deal or leaving by default after two years. I would argue that deciding to stay would be a negotiated agreement, requiring a qualified majority vote. However I can see an argument that it would be a change to articles and procedures, requiring a unanimous vote (I suppose if this was the case a country could always make an agreement that is almost the same as remaining to get a majority rather than unanimous vote). Is there some other way that a country could withdraw invocation of the article? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Q Chris (talkcontribs) 07:18, 22 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]

REad this - http://uk.businessinsider.com/brexit-how-does-article-50-work-2016-7 - and decide if you still think it is doubtful. The House of Lords got legal opinion about this, which agreed that it could be reversed as long as the final agreement, or the two year deadline, has not passed. Wymspen (talk) 07:47, 22 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Do we know whether that reflects consensus? This is what the actual report says:

"Can a Member State’s decision to withdraw be reversed? 10. We asked our witnesses whether it was possible to reverse a decision to withdraw. Both agreed that a Member State could legally reverse a decision to withdraw from the EU at any point before the date on which the withdrawal agreement took effect. Once the withdrawal agreement had taken effect, however, withdrawal was final. Sir David told us: “It is absolutely clear that you cannot be forced to go through with it if you do not want to: for example, if there is a change of Government.”10 Professor Wyatt supported this view with the following legal analysis: “There is nothing in the wording to say that you cannot. It is in accord with the general aims of the Treaties that people stay in rather than rush out of the exit door. There is also the specific provision in Article 50 to the effect that, if a State withdraws, it has to apply to rejoin de novo. That only applies once you have left. If you could not change your mind after a year of thinking about it, but before you had withdrawn, you would then have to wait another year, withdraw and then apply to join again. That just does not make sense. Analysis of the text suggests that you are entitled to change your mind.”11 11. Professor Wyatt clarified that “a Member State remains a member of the European Union until the withdrawal agreement takes effect”, so would continue its membership on the same legal terms as before the decision to withdraw.12 12. Both witnesses drew a distinction, however, between the law and the politics of such a scenario. While the law was clear, “the politics of it would be completely different”, according to Professor Wyatt.13 Likewise, Sir David did not think that the politics “were as easy as saying, ‘The negotiations are over and we are back to where we started’”.14 13. We note in this context that the Conclusions of the 18–19 February 2016 European Council, at which the terms of the ‘New Settlement for the United Kingdom within the European Union’ were agreed, stated that “should the result of the referendum in the United Kingdom be for it to leave the European Union, the set of arrangements referred to [regarding the ‘New Settlement’] will cease to exist”.15 In other words, the outcome of the recent renegotiation of the UK’s membership terms will, in the event of a vote to leave the EU, fall the moment the result of the referendum is known." --PalaceGuard008 (Talk) 09:22, 22 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Sub-categories of pedophiles

Do pedophiles fall into sub categories in terms of their preference, such as little boys or little girls? Does that make them straight or gay?

Are pedophiles more likely to take a seme sex preference, or are interests evenly distributed? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 190.207.186.185 (talk) 12:58, 22 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Our article Pedophilia discusses this a bit, you might find more relevant statistics in the references. SemanticMantis (talk) 15:10, 22 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]

unable to login

i am trying to login to my account. i have forgotten my password. the prompt is asking for my email. i am entering it but you are not sending me a link to reset my password. richard davies — Preceding unsigned comment added by 107.77.231.229 (talk) 19:44, 22 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Richard. First, it is not any of us specifically that would send you a link, that is handled by an automated script. As for the email, I'm not sure what the problem might be, but you could try checking your email's "junk" or "spam" folders, sometimes password reset messages get caught there by accident. Also you may have signed up with a different/older email account, so make sure you check all email addresses you can. Finally, it might be easiest to just make a new account. SemanticMantis (talk) 19:56, 22 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Do you mean the account User:Richardlilijon? If you do manager to reset the password, do you need to declare a WP:conflict of interest in your editing? Dbfirs 14:23, 25 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]

July 23

import a value(in a specific field) from an external url

I'm new here and would like to know if my project could be possible on wikipedia. My goal is to import values from an external web page listing live water flow measurement of various rivers. I've searched à couple of hours now and don't really find what I'm looking for.

here an example of the flow measurement, the value of the first line on the last collumn is the number needed (under flow in m3/s) http://www.cehq.gouv.qc.ca/suivihydro/tableau.asp?NoStation=061024&Zone=Saguenay&Secteur=Kenogami

I think I've found something useful on mediawiki (Extension:External Data) but it seems to works on personnal server, something I'm not planning to use.

Thanks for your help! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 216.228.220.55 (talk) 02:06, 23 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]

WP: Help desk or WP: Village pump are better places for this sort of thing. 2606:A000:4C0C:E200:9D03:2DE0:AA61:B599 (talk) 04:36, 23 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]

July 24

Identify this printing feature?

Look at this page scan from Wikisource, specifically the "B 2" in the footer. Another Wikisource user called this sort of thing a printing artifact which should not be transcribed. But what is it called and what purpose does it serve? BethNaught (talk) 12:06, 24 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]

It's a Signature mark. Nanonic (talk) 12:20, 24 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Wiki markup font

What font is MediaWiki markup in? ThePlatypusofDoom (talk) 23:25, 24 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]

The literal answer to this question is "whatever font your text editor uses". The markup is what you see in the editing box when you click on "edit", not what it generates. The font you see will depend on your stylesheet - for Monobook and Vector, it's Courier 13 point. See Wiki markup, WP:CSS, WP:MARKUP and WP:TYPE. However, I don't think that this answer is what you're looking for. Tevildo (talk) 01:02, 25 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]
@Tevildo: I actually was looking for the font of the source code itself. Thanks! ThePlatypusofDoom (talk) 01:38, 25 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]
As Tevildo says, it's not in any font. I suggest you read the introduction to our article on plain text.--Shantavira|feed me 06:08, 25 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Right, but, if you're talking about using a MediaWiki site in a browser, the browser will use a font to display the page source, following the stylesheets if possible. What Tevildo probably meant to ask was, "What is the default font for the MediaWiki edit window?" --71.110.8.102 (talk) 13:48, 25 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]

July 25

International civil codes - regulations on at-cost and free-of-cost cooperation agreements

Hi, I know this borders on a legal topic, but I am just wondering on if I can find a database on global civil cooperation agreements, and am not seeking advice of any sort. Is such a repository available? 27.115.113.102 (talk) 01:35, 25 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Dating birthday card

Hello:

I'm trying to date this birthday card, likely printed sometime between the mid 1980s and the early 1990s in the UK. Apart from the maker's mark and the art (neither of which I am expert in and which I have no clue how to even begin to research) there are no contextual clues that are immediately tipping me off. Long shot, maybe, but I would be very grateful if someone could narrow it down to a year or two. Thanks! Evan (talk|contribs) 10:56, 25 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]

One of "Sharpe's Classic Greeting Cards", with the artwork signed by "Robin", printed in England. I have no idea where to go from there. Is that company still in existence? Someguy1221 (talk) 11:06, 25 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]
WHAG here but it looks to date from the very early days of supermarkets in the UK, so maybe sometime before 1980?

--TammyMoet (talk) 12:28, 25 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]

The cartooning style to me looks more like 1950s. ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots15:12, 25 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]
One can search Victoria and Albert Museum Sharpe's -- Classic Greeting Card collection online, but your card isn't there:[4] --2606:A000:4C0C:E200:58E2:3708:C2A3:B874 (talk) 16:42, 25 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]