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September 2016

You currently appear to be engaged in an edit war according to the reverts you have made on Han Taiwanese. Users are expected to collaborate with others, to avoid editing disruptively, and to try to reach a consensus rather than repeatedly undoing other users' edits once it is known that there is a disagreement.

Please be particularly aware that Wikipedia's policy on edit warring states:

Edit warring is disruptive regardless of how many reverts you have made.
Do not edit war even if you believe you are right.

If you find yourself in an editing dispute, use the article's talk page to discuss controversial changes; work towards a version that represents consensus among editors. You can post a request for help at an appropriate noticeboard or seek dispute resolution. In some cases it may be appropriate to request temporary page protection. If you engage in an edit war, you may be blocked from editing. Lysimachi (talk) 21:00, 20 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

For reference:

--Lemongirl942 (talk) 03:41, 2 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

About edits to SG articles by User:Morrisonjohn022

Hi Lemon! It is sometimes hard to define his/her edits if matching local facts & wiki rules, although I reverted some improper or useless descriptions from his/her works... Since this person is effecting many SG geo pages, could you please help on them accordingly? Thank you.Gzyeah (talk) 09:10, 21 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

@Gzyeah: Apologies, didn't see this. Yes, I had noticed the user adding some original research. Some of the edits are useful while others might be true but have no citations. There have been no responses on the talk page of the user. I guess the only way is to keep a check on these articles and change as necessary. --Lemongirl942 (talk) 03:43, 2 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Notice of Edit warring noticeboard discussion

Hello. This message is being sent to inform you that there is currently a discussion involving you at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Edit warring regarding a possible violation of Wikipedia's policy on edit warring. The thread is Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Edit warring#User:Lemongirl942 reported by User:Lysimachi (Result: ). Thank you. —Lysimachi (talk) 09:49, 23 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

For reference:

--Lemongirl942 (talk) 03:44, 2 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

LA times and SF Weekly

Can you explain why you think LA Times and SF Weekly are unreliable sources on the article talk page please? Pwolit iets (talk) 09:35, 7 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Discussion continued here. --Lemongirl942 (talk) 03:46, 2 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for your comment

Hi Lemongirl942 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log), so glad to find another Singaporean Wikipedian here! Nice to meet you and thank you so much for understanding my editing intentions! You pointed out something that many other editors have not noticed. I realised that Magnolia677 doesn't seem to be friendly when she left a message on my talk page, she warned me that I will be blocked if I continue to make unsourced edit and adding unreliable references. I was so scared of her that which is why I tried to include as many references as possible within a limited period of time to defend myself from other editors whom lack understanding in my editing patterns. Only you and Arjayay (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log) seems to truly understand my good faith in making constructive editing, and I truly appreciates it. While I understand your perspective, I just couldn't resist listing out all the entertainment events for a huge music fans like me. I believe that what I have added are useful for music fans but of course I understand that not everyone will find it beneficial or meaningful and I totally respect their opinions. I am trying my best to include as many reliable references as possible and my apology if I am unaware of how strict it is to have a reliable sources. Some of the unreliable sources I have added may appear to be reliable to me as long as it is relevant to the event that I wished to source upon in the first place. Please teach me on what are reliable and unreliable sources so that I can look at it very carefully before adding it. Lack of citacions shouldn't be the reason for my edits to be reverted since I am very busy editing many other articles at the same time. It takes time for me to include more useful references but I hated it when editors becomes impatient. I hope to hear some advice from you on that, thank you so much for putting yourself into my shoes in the first place, cheers! Xinyang Aliciabritney (talk) 13:52, 12 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Discussion continued here and at ANI --Lemongirl942 (talk) 05:08, 11 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Admin?

Are you admin on wikipedia, i want to report something (someone precisely)? a serious matter 84.255.215.13 (talk) 17:10, 14 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]

No I'm not an admin. What is it about? Is it any article? (Note: If it involves any private data, please do NOT reveal any information here). I can direct you to the appropriate forum. --Lemongirl942 (talk) 17:13, 14 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Its about admins who are involved in WP:Paid but didn't disclosed their paid work. I have proofs. 84.255.215.13 (talk) 17:19, 14 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you. You will have to email this information. The correct place to send this information is "arbcom-l@lists.wikimedia.org" (this is the mailing list of the arbitration committee who can look into your queries). --Lemongirl942 (talk) 17:25, 14 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for reference. 84.255.215.13 (talk) 17:26, 14 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]

You're welcome! --Lemongirl942 (talk) 17:28, 14 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]

(talk page watcher) Ah- trolling then. There's an admin that's repeatedly being accused of that but for the life of me can't remember who! It was at AN/I a while back though. _Muffled ^Pocketed 17:33, 14 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, I vaguely remember seeing something like that. Was it some Orangemoody related case in which they pretended to be an admin and gave assurances that their article would be kept? Regardless, the best place for this stuff is arbcom who can look into it. --Lemongirl942 (talk) 17:36, 14 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry this is slightly belated ;) but I've just realized, it was Michig. Not that it matters anyway, just funny how things remind you out of the blue. Carry on! _Muffled ^Pocketed 11:08, 11 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

I have conversations with admin on freelancing site of him/her being committing that he/she is an admin , left me couple of his/her created pages. 84.255.215.13 (talk) 17:38, 14 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, it was something like that. In any case, of course your're right, Arbcom get paid for that stuff, not us... _Muffled ^Pocketed 18:22, 14 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Arbcom get paid for that stuff I like that ;) --Lemongirl942 (talk) 14:17, 15 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]

@84.255.215.13: Like I said, the best place to report this is Arbcom. They can take the necessary action if required. I suggest you email it there. --Lemongirl942 (talk) 17:40, 14 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Controversy on your talk pages

Hello again. Hopefully I don't come across as stalkish. It chanced upon me that your talk pages were very long, and I realized quite some of them have to do with disputes. Try not to be too accusatory maybe (at least don't sound so. Things like "you are" and "your" are quite incriminating. Maybe use "I think you might be")? We ourselves make mistakes too. Also, perhaps maybe some show of goodwill would be good? Like this message? I'm also one who comes across as too sure of themselves in real life. So maybe I could give a little advice as I'm learning too. Cheers mate!--Officer781 (talk) 03:35, 29 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Haha, thank you. I guess I was getting wiki-stressed with all the POV pushing. Took a break and feeling much better! Cheers. --Lemongirl942 (talk) 05:04, 11 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Cohesity

I reverted your edits as there is an ongoing discussion on the talk page about WP:PROMO - that section is about awards and accolades but it is neutrally written and referenced with third party sources. As the link you provided says (a guideline I am well aware of), "Information about companies and products must be written in an objective and unbiased style, free of puffery. All article topics must be verifiable with independent, third-party sources" - which this section complies with. I'm assuming good faith and hoping you can do the same! Garchy (talk) 22:09, 29 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]

I read your comments about WP:WEIGHT - that makes sense to me. I strongly decent the section is written in a neutral tone and is referenced to third party sources, however you are correct that for the size of the article the section is not necessary. Thank you for the insight. Garchy (talk) 22:17, 29 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Kenny y los Electricos

Thank you. I was about to lose my temper. It is true that the article as it sits -- it's a translation that was only finished about 15min ago and on which I have already spent bunches of time -- does assume that readers understand that many of the musicians it mentions are famous, but that's a frequent problem with articles from other languages, and this is how we do it.

First we translate and then we edit.... Anyway, thank you for de-escalating this. I'll make sure it's referenced and further adapted for an American readership in a timely manner, but I am burned out this second from translating the Spanish, which is not that easy for me. I do know from looking for the wikilinks that there are numerous substantive articles (mostly in Spanish though), and a lot of the former members are also important. But the band only needs to have ONE record to be notable and they have a dozen, so I kinda have to wonder what that editor was thinking, as all the releases are prominently listed and on that basis alone he shouldn't be claiming lack of notability....

Anyway, sorry to bend your ear about this but I just wanted to express my profound gratitude that I don't have to wiki-litigate the obvious tonight...Elinruby (talk) 07:13, 30 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Haha no worries! My usual way to deal with wiki-stress is to take a short break or reduce the intensity of my editing. I am just back from one. Cheers! --Lemongirl942 (talk) 04:50, 8 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

removal of sources

Your removal of sources from an article[1] was extremely bad form and reflects extremely poorly on your actions at AFD. You are much better than that Lemongirl942. Do better from now on. -- 1Wiki8........................... (talk) 08:20, 30 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]

I removed it from the article because Wikipedia is not a link farm. The further reading section is not necessary. If you actually looked at it, my very next edit was to move the links to the talk page. Whoever wants to improve it can still find those on the talk. AfD or not, there is no need to dump the sources on the article page. --Lemongirl942 (talk) 08:56, 30 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]

WikiProject Malaysia November 2016 Newsletter

List of cities and towns in Andhra Pradesh by nicknames

Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of cities and towns in Andhra Pradesh by nicknames has some error in merging. Its contents were not merged. If its merged, it will be a mistake, as towns are included in it. So, please review and make some alternative attempt. I've accepted it, but upon having a glance at the merge process, I found this.--Vin09 (talk) 04:42, 3 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Hello Vin09. I merged the contents in this diff. I added everything (whether cities or towns). However, you are right that the destination article titled List of cities in India by nicknames might refer to only cities. Just wondering if the scope should be changed to cities and towns? Alternatively, we could remove the towns from the list. (I don't really know how towns/cities are defined by the Indian government, so I would need your help). What do you think? --Lemongirl942 (talk) 04:43, 8 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Yes you are right. But if we change all the IPs start adding some WP:OR, that's why I changed my idea. However, I'll agree with what you said, change of title is a good idea. A city is a class I town with a population of 100,000 and above. All other municipalities and urban bodies are towns. Cheers!--Vin09 (talk) 04:50, 8 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Hey Vin09. Thank you for your efforts. It looks much better now. I like the idea of creating separate sections for each state. I noticed that they do something similar in List of city nicknames in the United States (except that they don't use a table). --Lemongirl942 (talk) 05:03, 11 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Redirect of Rebecca Masisak's Page?

Hi Lemongirl942, Wondering why Rebecca Masisak page was redirected to the TechSoup Global entry, with your comment about notability in mid-October? A notability discussion was opened on the talk page in July and a variety of other experienced editors voted to keep. -Bajeckabean (talk) 19:45, 7 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Hello. The reason was that the subject is not independently notable of the company TechSoup Global. Usually per, WP:BUSINESSPERSONOUTCOME we redirect these to the company article and add a one line mention in the company article. --Lemongirl942 (talk) 04:59, 11 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Notification of Incident report

There is currently a discussion at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. Thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Vile-eight (talk • contribs) 10:23, 8 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Wait what? I got dragged to ANI for stifling dissent in Singapore? The irony is strong here. --Lemongirl942 (talk) 17:20, 8 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

@LemonG, a career in local politics awaits! ;) _Muffled ^Pocketed 18:49, 8 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Hahaha. Maybe I should start trying for a seat in the parliament. :D --Lemongirl942 (talk) 19:07, 8 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Classic! I wonder what'd be the best technique- treating them like they're at WP:DRN or WP:BLPN!!! ;) _Muffled ^Pocketed 20:24, 8 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Parliamentary records of Singaporean politicians

Hi Lemongirl942, I noticed that you reverted my edits on the parliamentary record of Lee Bee Wah (specifically, changes Lee suggested in Parliament that have become national policy). Do you think that in general, parliamentary records of politicians are not suitable for inclusion into Wikipedia? I've noticed them on the pages of other Singaporean politicians, like Josephine Teo and Sylvia Lim. Personally I think parliamentary records can be included if they led to notable events or changes. These will inform the Wikipedia reader of what is notable about the subject. Wanted to hear your opinion on this issue. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Heathercai24 (talk • contribs) 04:17, 11 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Heathercai24. On Wikipedia WP:NOTNEWS is a policy which is used in conjunction with WP:IINFO. The spirit of the policy is that not everything that has happened is worth including on Wikipedia. We use due and undue weight to determine what should be included. In cases of MPs, a lot of routine coverage is generated because the press reports on parliament proceedings. We thus, try to only add information which has a certain enduring significance and has been persistently reported over a period time. Wikipedia is an encyclopaedia and we hold stuff to an academic standard here. The articles like Josephine Teo and Sylvia Lim suffer from similar problems as Lee Bee Wah. You can contrast this with, for example, Curt Clawson, a US politician about whom there was a lot of coverage, but going by weight, very little which could be included. --Lemongirl942 (talk) 04:53, 11 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

I will have a look at this article later today. What should possibly be included in Lee Bee Wah are the election records - the GRC she contested from and the vote percentage. This is encyclopaedic information which should be mentioned. --Lemongirl942 (talk) 04:57, 11 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the clarification Lemongirl942. Will look into adding more encyclopedic information there.

Can you check this vandal's edits?

FilmMakers20190 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · nuke contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log) I know all of their articles are hoaxes, but I'm not sure about edits like [2], [3] etc. Can you check to make sure they should be reverted? Timmyshin (talk) 20:47, 11 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

@Timmyshin: Thank you for getting those articles deleted. I had a look at the other edits as well and I think it is safe to revert them. For example, in this diff, the user added "Lost Soul" as a 2001 movie, but it was actually a 1999 TV series and was already mentioned in the article.

I actually did a bit of digging around and found Lost Soul (film) which was created by FilmMakers00023 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · nuke contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log) who was possibly the original sockmaster of this vandal. Moreover, the content of Lost Soul (film) was entirely copied from here.

As for these addition to Singapore films, I found most of the additions were not movies but actually Channel 8 dramas (like On the Fringe 1987) and the years were incorrect as well. For others I wasn't able to find any sources to show that they even exist. I think the revert is fine here. Thank you for letting me know about this. Cheers. --Lemongirl942 (talk) 11:25, 12 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks, someone reverted these edits already. Turns out this is a serial hoaxer with many sockpuppets: Category:Suspected Wikipedia sockpuppets of FilmMakers00023. But as long as we pay close attention to List of Singaporean films I think we'll spot him quickly if he resurfaces. Cheers Timmyshin (talk) 15:54, 12 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Your submission at Articles for creation: Loh Miaw Gong has been accepted

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Haha, thank you SwisterTwister. --Lemongirl942 (talk) 11:25, 12 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

New Page Review needs your help

Hi Lemongirl942,

As an AfC reviewer you're probably aware that a new user right has been created for patrolling new pages (you might even have been granted the right already, and admins have it automatically).

Since July there has been a very serious backlog at Special:NewPagesFeed of over 14,000 pages, by far the worst since 2011, and we need an all out drive to get this back down to just a few hundred that can be easily maintained in the future. Unlike AfC, these pages are already in mainspace, and the thought of what might be there is quite scary. There are also many good faith article creators who need a simple, gentle push to the Tea House or their pages converted to Draft rather than being deleted.

Although New Page Reviewing can occasionally be somewhat more challenging than AfC, the criteria for obtaining the right are roughly the same. The Page Curation tool is even easier to use than the Helper Script, so it's likely that most AfC reviewers already have more than enough knowledge for the task of New Page Review.

It is hoped that AfC reviewers will apply for this right at WP:PERM and lend a hand. You'll need to have read the page at WP:NPR and the new tutorial.

(Sent to all active AfC reviewers) MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 16:33, 15 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Notice

You currently appear to be engaged in an edit war according to the reverts you have made on Singapore article. Users are expected to collaborate with others, to avoid editing disruptively, and to try to reach a consensus rather than repeatedly undoing other users' edits once it is known that there is a disagreement.

Please be particularly aware that:

You have been reverted by multiple editors for edit-warring, tagging on the article. You are ignoring Wikipedia rules and have not explained your reasons, despite requests to do so at Talk:Singapore
You have been cited by @Warpslider: at [Talk:Singapore] for WP:THREATEN - Threats and intimidation

Wikipedia's policy on edit warring further states:

Edit warring is disruptive regardless of how many reverts you have made.
Do not edit war even if you believe you are right.

If you find yourself in an editing dispute, use the article's talk page to discuss controversial changes; work towards a version that represents consensus among editors. You can post a request for help at an appropriate noticeboard or seek dispute resolution. If you engage in an edit war, you may be blocked from editing.
Please do not remove templates without consensus. You apparently have some experience but prefer to ignore the rules.

At least sign it lol. Also, nice to receive a template from a someone who has absolutely no understanding of policies and guidelines. --Lemongirl942 (talk) 12:04, 17 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

User group: New Page Reviewr

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Singapore education

While I agree that the content in question is poor, I reverted your pushing forward of my edit. Appropriate discussion has begun on the matter, which was my bold edit of a piece of text that has in fact been around in various forms for a few years. This isn't something that has been discussed recently. Implementation after dispute resolution is of course a different matter, as we have seen with the recent RfC and all that, but it would be best not to conflate the various disputes as much as possible with regards to content. Best, CMD (talk) 17:45, 21 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

@Chipmunkdavis: Not a problem. I didn't realise that part of the content was there for a few years - prior to the bloating in 2015. However quite a bit of the stuff was also added recently. Regardless, I don't mind discussing. --Lemongirl942 (talk) 17:51, 21 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Certainly not all of it was there before, but the concept of the bullet points presentation was. I don't think removing the recent additions does much compared to fixing the overall presentation. CMD (talk) 18:08, 21 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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Masjid or Mosque

Hi. I believe my page moves were sufficiently uncontroversial, per MOS:PN. That is why I did not start a discussion. If you thought that my edits were controversial, you should have at least started a discussion before making mass reverts.--Peaceworld 16:04, 23 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Hello Peaceworld111. My reverts were per WP:BRD. These names had been there for a long time. I apologise for not leaving a message on your talk page though. My reason for keeping the names as "Masjid x" instead of "x mosque" is due to WP:COMMONNAME in the Singaporean context where "Masjid X" is more common. I would be glad to start a discussion about this at an appropriate forum (since it concerns a lot of articles). Thoughts? --Lemongirl942 (talk) 16:10, 23 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the reply. I would assume that MOS:PN takes precedence in cases where we are considering foreign languages. Singaporean mosques are little known outside Singapore. The case is the same with most mosques and religious structures in any country of the world, and we don't usually start adopting country-specific languages to words such as "church", "temple" or "synagogue". You are more than welcome to bring in the views of others by which ever method you consider appropriate.--Peaceworld 18:27, 23 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you Peaceworld111. I will start a discussion later today or tomorrow about this. The reason I would like a discussion about this is because it is not only Mosques but other entities (hills, rivers, islands) about Singapore where the common name is used instead of the English name. If we are having a discussion about this, we might as well fix the other articles as well in one go. In the meantime, I will have a look at how it is done for other countries (particularly neighbouring countries in Southeastasia). --Lemongirl942 (talk) 07:38, 24 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, any updates?--Peaceworld 08:09, 3 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

@Peaceworld111: My apologies. I was stressed out with some stuff. But yeah, I did look at other countries such as Malaysia and Indonesia and they seem to use "Mosques". Singapore is slightly different though because it is mostly English speaking and the term "Masjid" is widely used. This is also similar to other cases such as "Bukit" for hill and "Pulau" for island and "Sungei" for river. Thus, the WP:COMMONNAME argument might actually favour "Masjid"/"Sungei"/"Pulau" in certain cases. I am personally agnostic to the change, but I realise that other members might be opposed to such a move (considering that this has been the accepted convention for a decade). One thing which I can do it to start an RFC and propose that religious buildings in Singapore be referred to as "x Mosque" or "x Temple" or "x Monastery" and argue for WP:CONSISTENCY (instead of WP:COMMONNAME). If most of the community agrees, then all of them can be moved to " X Mosque" and so on. Would this be a good way forward? --Lemongirl942 (talk) 08:31, 3 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

@Lemongirl1942: Yes, I would assume so. Just to note however, there is no consistency among Singaporean articles themselves. While some use the term "Sungei" for rivers, not all rivers in Singapore do. Being accepted as a convention for over a decade can be a consequence of the fact that many of these are articles (Mosques, Rivers, etc) are stub articles, some of which have not had major edits for years.--Peaceworld 09:27, 3 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

November 2016 - Notice of Edit-warring

You currently appear to be engaged in an edit war according to the reverts you have made on Singapore. This is the second time you have reverted the same sourced content I posted. Users are expected to collaborate with others, to avoid editing disruptively, and to try to reach a consensus rather than repeatedly undoing other users' edits once it is known that there is a disagreement.

Please be particularly aware that Wikipedia's policy on edit warring states:

Edit warring is disruptive regardless of how many reverts you have made.
Do not edit war even if you believe you are right.

If you find yourself in an editing dispute, use the article's talk page to discuss controversial changes; work towards a version that represents consensus among editors. You can post a request for help at an appropriate noticeboard or seek dispute resolution. In some cases it may be appropriate to request temporary page protection. If you engage in an edit war, you may be blocked from editing. - Shiok (talk) 06:34, 24 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

It was my mistake. I copied her template after seeing it. Shiok (talk) 06:34, 24 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

I'm curious why would you impersonate another editor. --Lemongirl942 (talk) 06:39, 24 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

I don't need to impersonate anyone. Everything in WP is logged. A genuine mistake that's all. Shiok (talk) 06:47, 24 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Regarding "This is the second time you have reverted the same sourced content I posted." Umm, please see WP:BRD. You added, I removed. You now need to get consensus. --Lemongirl942 (talk) 07:40, 24 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

November 2016

Please do not Move other editors comments as you did at Talk:Singapore, without consent. I had to copy some relevant information back to the survey section thread before you decided to move everything back to the same place. Please review the Wikipedia guidelines and policies if you are uncertain. Thank you. - Shiok (talk) 06:44, 24 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Another template by the SPA hahaha. I already moved that back long ago, but you decided to template now after all of it has been done? Really? Continue your antics. You actions show that you are WP:NOTHERE to improve the encyclpaedia. --Lemongirl942 (talk) 06:47, 24 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Actually it was yet another mistake thinking I had posted on my own talkpage. Well, will get use to it and preparing more templates, since you like it. Shiok (talk) 06:55, 24 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Why would you post that template along with that comment on your talk page? Your "mistakes" are way too many. --Lemongirl942 (talk) 06:57, 24 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Invitation to the Wikipedia Selangor Meetup 1

The 3rd Wikipedia Malaysia Meetup had now arrived on Selangor! Pack your bags and your laptop, and meet some fellow Malaysia Wikipedians in the meetup!

Date: Sunday, 11 December 2016
Time: 12:00 - 2:00 pm
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Roll call of WikiProject Malaysia for 2017

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Hira Public School

Hello Lemongirl942, as you have been responding to recent edit requests for this article, just a quick info: I have opened a new SPI at Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/AdnanAliAfzal, as this is probably another sock of a recurring problem editor. Regardless of this unfortunate issue, your good-faith help on the article's talkpage is appreciated. GermanJoe (talk) 15:28, 25 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Hi

Hello Lemongirl942,

I understand you live in Singapore, which is a beautiful country (which I've visited).

I'm wondering if you have ever read a copy of The Reader Magazine and if so, how many?

I'm wondering why you would eliminate the work of contributors to this page who actually have lived in the region where this magazine has been published for more than ten years?

You have eliminated neutral, descriptive text such as it's business model, which I contributed and so did others, who quite possibly also live in the region where the magazine has been distributed.

Recently, you added a link to a headline concerning The Reader at the Poynter web-page, a headline which states that most or nearly all of The Reader is plagiarized according to the CJR article.

This is quite a damning statement-- and it is also false.

The CJR article contained no actual numerical analysis of the proportion of articles they alleged The Reader plagiarized. And yet the headline you linked to states The Reader is mostly plagiarized. To use the term "most" or "a lot" or "half" you would want to normally make the case by determining how many articles were original, properly attributed or improperly attributed. Ms. Fry never even came close to this. She simply made a statement without showing any numerical evidence. She went as far as to call the business model of The Reader based on plagiarism-- because she says so, not based on evidence.

Unfortunately, this is how falsehoods become perceived as real. In this case, you placed a link at The Reader Magazine page on Wikipedia that people from all over the world would see that connects these people to a headline that is patently false and quite injurious.

In her article, you may also notice that to make her case "compelling" Ms. Fry did not distinguish between her allegations of copyright infringement and allegations of plagiarism, which are two very different things.

Hopefully, your sense and pursuit of fairness will be affected by this rather large omission of actual evidence in Ms. Fry's article which did not stop her from making blanket and sweeping allegations-- and didn't stop others from repeating them as if they were the truth.

If you can, please read her article for yourself. The Reader addressed Ms. Fry's article at www.readermagazinefactcenter.com.

Please consider allowing those of us who know this magazine and are doing our best to describe it accurately, neutrally and fairly to contribute to the page. I am personally doing the best I can. WikiBalandina (talk) 09:01, 26 November 2016 (UTC)

And thanks for reading this!

All the best,

WikiBalandina (talk) 09:13, 26 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

User blocked. Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/WikiBalandina/Archive. --Lemongirl942 (talk) 00:53, 12 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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Spec Property Page deletion

Hi Lemongirl942

Im writing to ask you to reverse the deletion of the Spec property wiki page. Im not to clear after reading the reasons why it was deleted how the sources were not credited to be reliable.

The sources referenced used a lot of Australia media that operates in both the Financial and Property areas. The business Spec Property has built over $1b in apartments in Melbourne, Australia. [4] [5]

thanks Tom Specpropertydigital (talk) 01:07, 29 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Nomination of Kepompong for deletion

A discussion is taking place as to whether the article Kepompong is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia according to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.

The article will be discussed at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Kepompong until a consensus is reached, and anyone is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on high-quality evidence and our policies and guidelines.

Users may edit the article during the discussion, including to improve the article to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the article-for-deletion notice from the top of the article. ArdiPras95 (talk) 04:06, 29 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

November 2016 - Harassment Notice

You appear to be sending another notice to harass, even when the original tag editor has not done so. Please note that:

the tag was unexplained and unwarranted
You have been cited for WP:THREATEN - Threats and intimidation on other editors previously.

You may be reported and blocked from editing the next time you do it again. Shiok (talk) 13:52, 29 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, another template by an SPA. Go ahead and show me the diffs of my harassment!. --Lemongirl942 (talk) 18:41, 30 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Correcting the founding date of Rajah & Tann Asia

Dear administrator,

I am writing to inform that the founding date of Rajah & Tann Asia is inaccurate. Could we get permission to correct the year to 1976 please? Accurate information: Rajah & Tann Singapore LLP (then known as Tann Wee Tiong & TT Rajah) was founded in 1976.

Thank you and best regards. — Preceding unsigned comment added by RTAfan88 (talk • contribs) 07:53, 1 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Hello RTAfan88. On Wikipedia we need reliable sources for that information. The current citation states the founding date as 1954. I would request you not to change it unless you can find a reliable source for the information. Btw, are you affiliated with Rajah and Tann in any way? --Lemongirl942 (talk) 10:55, 1 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, I am an employee. We have documents to support our claims, may I check how I can pass them to you for verification? Best regards. — Preceding unsigned comment added by RTAfan88 (talk • contribs) 12:43, 1 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

RTAfan88, I will take this discussion to the article talk page then. Usually we don't rely on documents, but published sources. So for example, if a newspaper has published a report saying that the Rajah and Tann was founded in such and such yeah, it can be used to support a claim. --Lemongirl942 (talk) 01:54, 7 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Personal attacks and frustrations

Lemongirl, I find it difficult to read this diff as anything other than a personal attack. I suggest you redact/remove or modify it. I understand you may be frustrated, but simply linking to CIR is not helpful for anyone, nor does it move conversation forwards in any way. Best, CMD (talk) 18:11, 1 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, I am sorry for that. I have redacted it and I deserve to be trouted for it actually. --Lemongirl942 (talk) 18:27, 1 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Regarding RfC non-admin closer talk page

Any interactions between us should be on our respective talk pages for now. So please to not obscure my questions to the closer. Wrigleygum (talk) 11:23, 3 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Hello! I am perfectly free to reply wherever I want. You have a problem, you can choose not to reply there. --Lemongirl942 (talk) 11:27, 3 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Taking this to WP:ARBCOM?

I see you are really frustrated dealing with Singapore articles and the users. And also seems like WP:ANI doesn't work for that matter. I suggest taking this to WP:ARBCOM and naming it "Singapore" (if you are opening). Remember to read WP:A/G and if you request one I may be there commenting. Good luck! NgYShung ^huh? 04:07, 6 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Hey NgYShung. Thank you for your concern

. To be honest, while the ANI didn't have a lot of comments from editors, quite of few editors did stop by and help fix the article and participated in talk page discussions. That helped to provide a diversity of opinions, which ultimately improved the article! Yes, I was a bit frustrated, but I guess as long as more editors keep it on their watchlist, it is fine. ARBCOM is more for behavioural issues rather than a content dispute. Now, this case is partly a behavioural issue, but it hasn't risen to the level of disruption that ARBCOM needs to step in (that would involve multiple ANI threads and blocks). I guess the best solution is for editors to keep monitoring the page and ensure that future edits follow NPOV. Thank you! I appreciate your concern. Btw, congratulations for your recent GA! ;) --Lemongirl942 (talk) 11:38, 6 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Well, glad to hear that. I will help as much as I can if I have free time for the article. Thanks for your comment and happy editing! NgYShung ^huh? 13:10, 6 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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Your opinion

I would value you opinion on User talk:TheMagnificentist#Category additions. I may be way off base, but I'd appreciate your opinion. Thanks. Magnolia677 (talk) 03:25, 9 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Dictionary of non-notable artists

Thanks for linking to this book at AfD. Pretty clever—hadn't seen it before and actually laughed out loud a few times. By the way, there's a PDF here. czar 20:02, 10 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Haha Czar, thank you. I had seem that earlier on the talk page of WP:AFD or WP:DELETION (can't remember the exact page). It was pretty entertaining to read actually! ;) --Lemongirl942 (talk) 05:54, 11 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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Daniel Son; Necklace Don

If you want the sources for Daniel Son; Necklace Don, here you go. I just find it odd that you'll revert my edits from weeks ago though, weird. JayPe (talk) 1:53, 14 December 2016 (UTC)

JayPe Unsourced information can (and should be removed) particularly if it is has been recently added (within a few weeks). That is how we maintain the quality of Wikipedia. Thank you for the sources. What I don't understand though is that you can search for the sources but you somehow never add them to the article. Adding them (inline) is what is sorely needed. Anyway, I will source this article later today and you can see how I do it. Later you can source others article similarly. Btw, please please do not add any more unsourced content. I get a feeling that the admins will not listen this time. So when you add content, add sources. If you don't have sources, then don't add content. --Lemongirl942 (talk) 02:05, 14 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

@Lemongirl942: Thanks for that, just know that edit was made before I was getting into blocks and arguments between you and Magnolia, so you won't have to worry about this next time. JayPe (talk) 02:09, 14 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, I understand JayPe. But this was recent and although a minor edit, was still modifying the same unsourced content. On Wikipedia we generally WP:AGF, but after someone has been blocked, the editor needs to Demonstrate good faith. As such, you could do that by going over some of your previous edits and adding sources to them. Or if you can't find sources immediately, at least add a {{cn}} template so that others are alerted to the unsourced data. --Lemongirl942 (talk) 02:16, 14 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

This Edit

I would be interested to know which parts of the article do not have reliable sources as per your reinstating the notice. TIA Tushi Talk To Me 03:18, 14 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

The problem is notability, not RS itself. It requires significant secondary coverage in reliable sources, independent of the subject. Source in which the subject is talking about themselves are not good enough. --Lemongirl942 (talk) 03:22, 14 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

I thought notability is conferred by RS. The sources are not affiliates of the subject from the sources I could find online. A source like today.com has been referenced to more than 2K times on English Wikipedia alone and more times in other language Wikipedias. The fact that such a source would publish about the subject is quite something. Tushi Talk To Me 03:33, 14 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Depends. "Publication in a reliable source is not always good evidence of notability". The source you added is a contributor article which is not considered an RS. The article also went through an AFD where is was not determined if the subject is indeed notable. --Lemongirl942 (talk) 04:00, 14 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Please explain what you mean by contributor article. See the subject interviewing Wozniak too * http://www.bizjournals.com/phoenix/news/2016/11/17/apple-co-founder-steve-wozniak-talks-happiness-and.html Tushi Talk To Me 04:22, 14 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Hey @Lemongirl942. Would you mind to respond? Thanks Tushi Talk To Me 15:48, 15 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Ah sorry. Well, the subject interviewing Wozniak is immaterial - notability is not inherited. The "contributor" articles refer to those which are not written by full time staff writers. These are not subject to the same level of fact checking and hence are not considered RS for the purpose of notability. --Lemongirl942 (talk) 15:53, 15 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks. Tushi Talk To Me 16:03, 15 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Hello and thank you

Just wanted to drop by and say thanks for leaving the Exceptional Newcomer Award on my page for Iskandar Ismail! I'm a music student currently based in the USA, but I grew up in Singapore and would love to keep contributing to articles pertaining to Singapore's music scene in the future. I created the page for a school project and it was an honor to do it for Mr. Iskandar. Limjlcm (talk) 16:39, 14 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

You are welcome Limjlcm. I liked the article you wrote - well written, to the point and most of the content was quite well sourced. There are actually quite a number of articles about Singapore's music scene already but many of these need additional sources for verification. When I find time I try to add sources. You can always chip in!

Happy editing and if you need any help, feel free to let me know. --Lemongirl942 (talk) 16:51, 14 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Illuminating perspective barnstar

	Illuminating perspective barnstar
	It's not too often that I'm gobsmacked by information from someone else, but your points about churnalism has resulted in one of those rare moments where I see the nuances of a situation very differently. Thanks so much for your patience in explaining it to me. CaroleHenson (talk) 05:47, 15 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you CaroleHenson. I am always glad to be of help!

--Lemongirl942 (talk) 06:41, 15 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Need your help at COI board

Hello Lemongirl,

I see you are a helper at the COI board. If you have a moment could you please read the report about the article Charlie Zeleny. there is a SPA ip editor who is acting very aggressively toward me. I think he has a conflict either being the subject himself or a friend or family member. He denied it to me, but he has taken ownership of the article and says he is going to ban me from wikipedia. Look at the talk page with all the threat and calling removing weasel words as vadalism. Thank you. Pauciloquence (talk) 13:55, 17 December 2016 (UTC) 13:55, 17 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Apologies Pauciloquence. Was occupied for the last few days. I have placed the article on my watchlist and will keep an eye on it. --Lemongirl942 (talk) 14:52, 24 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Narelle Kheng

Discussion continued here and here. See also section below titled "Narelle Kheng and User:CO16" --Lemongirl942 (talk) 14:49, 24 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

Can you please set it back and do not redirect it to The Sam Willows? Please? I do not understand why you have to do that. Please just make it a standalone page. Please do not delete it or do anything to it. Please please? Can you reply me? CO16 (talk) 01:59, 18 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Hey CO16, I had already explained it to you at User_talk:CO16#Narelle_Kheng. That is your "talk page". Please comment there from now on. (I have it on my watchlist and I can see it). --Lemongirl942 (talk) 18:01, 17 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

Hor Ying Ying

Can you please restore the page, and avoid doing anything to it? I am in the midst of improving the page and trying to add any reference as soon as there is more published, and since the page is still in its preliminary stage, I strongly encourage others to add in more information rather than have it speedy deleted. The page I created is on a relatively new star, whose popularity is on the rise. LMX97 (talk) 12:56, 18 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

LMX97 The article was deleted after a discussion. See Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Hor Ying Ying. The subject doesn't satisfy the notability guidelines. See WP:N. --Lemongirl942 (talk) 14:43, 24 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Narelle Kheng and User:CO16

Discussion continued here and here --Lemongirl942 (talk) 14:47, 24 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

Then why don't you help to improve it? Rather than despising on other noob Editors? Talk so much might as well help. Why can't the singers have their own page? You can have a user page which are not any important or famous person while at least those Singers are famous or to you they are not. Talk only, why don't you help improve. I know I suck i know but all you do is despise, can't you improve? Does 1 more or in fact 4 more articles kill you? No right? Can't you just leave it? If you can't, then ignore it. CO16 (talk) 23:57, 18 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Besides deleting are you sure there is nothing that we can do? All you do is delete people's work, can't you help to improve it? 1 article would not kill you la please. Why would it want to delete it when there is no harm. Even there is something wrong, can't you help the editor to improve? Please la aiyo. CO16 (talk) 00:17, 19 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

I answered on your talk page. Let's keep the conversation at one place. --Lemongirl942 (talk) 16:27, 18 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Kk then just delete it. But I have another question, if I create a page, how Long must I wait before it appears on the Google search page? Sometimes when I create a new page, when I head to google and search the page I created, it doesn't appear. Help answer this question.User:CO16 (talk) 16:34, 19 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Walao answer leh. You say must be polite then is it polite to ignore people?. Walao eh — Preceding unsigned comment added by CO16 (talk • contribs)

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

Season's Greetings!

Hello Lemongirl942: Enjoy the holiday season and winter solstice if it's occurring in your area of the world, and thanks for your work to maintain, improve and expand Wikipedia. Cheers, Mona778 (talk) 03:18, 19 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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The "China" issue to be at WP:move review

Do you plan to have the closures reviewed at MRV? --George Ho (talk) 06:25, 20 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Help re. undeclared COI

Hi @Lemongirl942:, I notice you're an expert with COI issues and wonder if you could take a look at this page and it's archive #3. I'm at the end of my tether with trying the gentle approach, and it's now interfering with improving/editing this page. I would truly appreciate your advice. I think it should probably go to COIN as it's interering with good faith editing, but I'd appreciate a second opinion. Thanks in advance Luther Blissetts (talk) 19:32, 23 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Hi LutherBlissetts. Sorry, was a bit busy for the last few days. I had a look and I'm not sure what exactly is the conflict of interest. There is also quite a lot of text in the page. In addition, has the editor declared a conflict of interest? Or has the editor been trying to promote/POV push a certain viewpoint? --Lemongirl942 (talk) 07:13, 24 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Editions war

You currently appear to be engaged in an edit war according to the reverts you have made on Singapore Tamils. Users are expected to collaborate with others, to avoid editing disruptively, and to try to reach a consensus rather than repeatedly undoing other users' edits once it is known that there is a disagreement.

Please be particularly aware that Wikipedia's policy on edit warring states:

Edit warring is disruptive regardless of how many reverts you have made.
Do not edit war even if you believe you are right.

If you find yourself in an editing dispute, use the article's talk page to discuss controversial changes; work towards a version that represents consensus among editors. You can post a request for help at an appropriate noticeboard or seek dispute resolution. In some cases it may be appropriate to request temporary page protection. If you engage in an edit war, you may be blocked from editing.
Please stop edit warring and adding content sourced to unreliable sources. If you continue to do so, you might be blocked. Winnan Tirunallur (talk) 15:34, 24 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

I'm going to preserve this warning

Apparent retaliatory template for this
Word to word copy of even the custom message "Please stop edit warring and adding content sourced to unreliable sources"
"Editions War" - that's the first time I have heard this term!

Sequence of edits for reference later 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6. --Lemongirl942 (talk) 15:48, 24 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Please assume good faith in your dealings with other editors. Assume that they are here to improve rather than harm Wikipedia. Winnan Tirunallur (talk) 03:51, 25 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

AGF can only go so far. And this inappropriate warning you left on another editor's talk page doesn't make me want to AGF any more. At this point, you need to demonstrate good faith and slapping inappropriate templates is clearly not the way to go. I suggest you contribute to the encyclopaedia, particularly outside some South Asian topics, and learn more how WP:RS and WP:NPOV is applied in practice.--Lemongirl942 (talk) 04:20, 25 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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Why are you deleting my references?

Who are you and why are you deleting my references? They are valid and not spam! — Preceding unsigned comment added by H4km4k (talk • contribs) 16:14, 27 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Please see WP:RS for what are accepted as reliable sources. The links you are adding are not reliable sources for the purpose of Wikipedia. The best sources are news websites with a proven editorial oversight. --Lemongirl942 (talk) 16:59, 27 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Correct they are the best links but the links I posted are also relevant and I'm pretty sure people would appreciate the reference and information.

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