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January 2

This is a list of redirects that have been proposed for deletion or other action on January 2, 2017.

GEORGE W. BUSH

No affinity for name in all caps, unlike OBAMA for example, where it is prominent on election posters. - CHAMPION (talk) (contributions) (logs) 23:25, 20 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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Donald Trump's Hair

I think more people will be looking for Donald Trump in popular culture#Hair rather than an obscure track. - CHAMPION (talk) (contributions) (logs) 21:55, 20 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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Greed is good

Taking it to discussion not because I want to delete it, but because I want to retarget it. A more specific target would be to the fictional utterer of this phrase Gordon Gekko. The current target is technically correct, but my suggested target is better. Mr. Guye (talk) 22:11, 19 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Does WP:DIFFCAPS play any part in this discussion? If so, wouldn't only Greed is good target the character that said it, and then the others should target/become a disambiguation page that Thryduulf referenced?
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💡

Pointless redirect as it's almost impossible to create this symbol using a computer keyboard Joseph2302 (talk) 18:38, 19 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Yeah, and they come up frequently enough that we have a common outcome section for them. See WP:EMOJI. -- Tavix (talk) 19:59, 19 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
FWIW, incandescent is probably the better redirect. I just searched for "light bulb", ended up at Electric light, and went with it without much thought. TimothyJosephWood 20:01, 19 December 2016 (UTC)→[reply]
  • 💡 Idea Emoji
  • 💡 Light Bulb Emoji
IMO, focusing on "light bulbs" or "electric light bulbs", much less "incandescent light bulbs"; to the exclusion of "inspiration"; misses the point of having the emoji.  Unscintillating (talk) 01:43, 26 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
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美

We don't need a Wiktionary redirect from a foreign language, they are only used for English terms. - CHAMPION (talk) (contributions) (logs) 08:29, 19 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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Blue and green planet

No indication that either of these are common names, there is a TV show by this name but is it really a plausible search term? - CHAMPION (talk) (contributions) (logs) 07:29, 19 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

  • weak keep. Describing the earth as a blue and green/green and blue is very common and there is no alternative target to point them to as the TV series doesn't have an article. The first of these redirects got regular traffic until the middle of October, but I haven't figured out what led to that change as it doesn't correspond to any change in the redirect. Thryduulf (talk) 09:47, 19 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete the TV series isn't notable to appear in News searches. There is a facebook page for Blue Green Planet which is more about some local organizations, and there's a song called Blue On a Green Planet. So hardly anything that warrants its own article. AngusWOOF (bark • sniff) 17:33, 20 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep. This is a common colloquial way to refer to Earth. -- Tavix (talk) 02:55, 31 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
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C‑SPAN

I don't know if there are Cyrillic characters in this one, but see [5]. I'm not good with other scripts. That did give some weird results, but I don't totally understand. - CHAMPION (talk) (contributions) (logs) 04:08, 19 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

  • Weak keep. No Cyrillic characters here, but the hyphen is U+2011 NON-BREAKING HYPHEN (Champion, if you use Firefox I can recommend installing the free "character identifer" addon) and it is plausible that someone will copy and paste this. Thryduulf (talk) 09:52, 19 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  • Weak delete. I can imagine this been copied and pasted from a word processor. However, it doesn't seem to have happened so far since the redirect was created. I don't think it would be of much use anyway; I've searched for pages which have a hyphen in their name and put this instead, and I got the right page as the first search result 5 times out of 5. In fact, if you replace an en-dash with this in a page title, Wikipedia automatically directs you on the right page. (I suppose we could request this functionality for hyphens too.) Daß Wölf 17:36, 22 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep  Given a choice in writing an article, a non-breaking hyphen would be preferred(?)  Compare:
As for software.hixie.ch mentioned in the op, the website says that the script is not working.  Unscintillating (talk) 01:52, 2 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]
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Ἀνάλυσις

Previous RfDs for this redirect and similar redirects:

This is a Neelix redirect listed in May, and the previous discussion was no consensus. After reading through it I find the delete arguments far more convincing, and think this is worth another discussion. Link to original discussion is here. The Blade of the Northern Lights (話して下さい) 22:31, 18 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

  • Ehh. Someone searching for "Ἀνάλυσις" will find what it means at the target (The word comes from the Ancient Greek ἀνάλυσις (analysis, "a breaking up", from ana- "up, throughout" and lysis "a loosening"), so it's a helpful redirect from that perspective. I'm not that attached to it though, as it's not really being used. -- Tavix (talk) 19:35, 30 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
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Shikshanirman

Not mentioned at target, and a google search doesn't reveal any association between the two organisations. There used to be an article at this title before, but it got deleted at AfD as not notable. It was later recreated by a member of a sock farm that specialised in bypassing new page patrol. This is also the likely source of the redirect's two incoming links (which I've now removed). – Uanfala (talk) 17:30, 2 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

East Pakistan Coast Guard

Delete. There is/was nothing named East Pakistan Coast Guard in the history or at present. This is a way of dishonouring the Bangladeshi organizations and other things by Pakistanis. SRS 00 (talk) 17:25, 2 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Potika

Delete both. I've categorised some other redirects to this target, mentioned in the lede, as {{R from other language|hr}} (or pl or sk), but these are not listed there, these are not at the target at all, and if we're going to have R's from other languages we should at least say at the target what language it is: otherwise it's WP:RFD#D2 confusing and jsut leading people up the garden path. Not all languages mentioned have had redirects created for them, for the simple expedient that we don't need them. Specific types of this cake are very popular in Hungary, for example, but we don't have Hungarian-language redirects to this target: instead Kalács and Bejgli are linked in the lede and redirect to more-specific articles. Si Trew (talk) 14:36, 18 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Keep both. The reason to keep them is that those terms are the "native" terms for them in parts of the United States. I originally added the Potiza redirect because I was looking for information on it and did not know that the generic term was a "nut roll", having only heard or seen variations of potiza/potica/potika used throughout my entire life as an English speaker in an English speaking country. Moreover, citing WP:RFD#D2 is specious in this case because the article specifically lists those as the regional names for them. If potiza (or whatever regional spelling is appropriate) was sufficiently different from a nut roll generally, it would warrant it's own article, but that doesn't make sense since it's just a nut roll, hence the redirect to the main article. There's no confusion here--the only confusion would occur if someone was looking for information on potiza/potica/potika (again, terms sufficiently commonly used in an English speaking country) and nothing came up. DNewhall (talk) 20:47, 18 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Putting WP:RFD#D2 confusing is not specious. When a term is not used at the target, a reader not knowing what a potika is finds themselves at "nut roll" thinking right, that's a nut roll, but what's it got to do with a potika? Wiktionary doesn't have that spelling, and Google search results certainly don't favour the idea that it means "nut roll", although www.pinterest.com/pin/211950726187348608/, which was my tenth result, uses it (that means Google thinks nine other things that are not nut rolls are more relevant than this). Dictionary.com doesn't list it. It is perhaps an {{R from incorrect spelling}} but it's certainly not "specious" to say that this was confusing when I was confused by it. I could't find that any language uses this as its spelling or term: it exists in Malagassy, but means something else (particle). It's probably WP:RFD#K5 ("if someone finds it useful, it probably is") but an argument from WP:RFD#D2 confusing, not at target and also WP:RFD#D8 novel or obscure synonym are perfectly reasonable arguments, too. Si Trew (talk) 23:46, 18 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
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Scott Disick

Delete -- redirect created after 4 AFDs w/o being requested as closing admin directed (see here); also see [6] and [7]. Given the animus and odium this individual evokes, with a record of four successful AFDs, this redirect was not handled properly.but rather through obsessive fan manipulation Redirect creator notified on talk page (see [8]). Quis separabit? 04:23, 18 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

According to the AFD discussion, closing admin User:Drmies recommended salting this page name. Did that not happen? Delete as WP:G6, result of a previous discussion. I'll try that now. Si Trew (talk) 14:18, 18 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Hmm, the redirect is fully page protected so I can't add the WP:G6. (Probably why it's not tagged with {{rfd}} either.) This will have to be escalated to... somewhere... I don't know where, WP:ANI is probably not the right place. Perhaps an admin reg at RfD, such as User:Thryduulf or User:Tavix, could advise? Si Trew (talk) 14:21, 18 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
@Si Trew: Note that neither G6 nor G4 speedy deletion are possible here as this has only been previously deleted as an article, the redirect has never been discussed. Thryduulf (talk) 09:00, 19 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  • Note RfD tag now added. Quis separabit?, in future if you cannot add an RfD tag to a nomination you make please note this in your nomination statement and/or make an edit request on the redirect talk page for an admin to do it for you. Thryduulf (talk) 08:57, 19 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  • Refine to Kourtney Kardashian#Personal life and keep protected. The nomination and comments above have some significant inaccuracies. Firstly, Drmies did salt the page after the most recent RfD, see the log entries for 24 June 2005. The following day, user:Anna Frodesiak left [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Drmies&oldid=668547593#Scott_Disick_2 a message on Drmies' talk page asking about whether to make it into a redirect, Drmies stated they had no objection and so AF created the redirect (as an administrator they were able to do this despite the page being salted), very helpfully linking to the request on Drmies talk page (Quis separabit? - it is always a good idea to look at the history of a redirect before nominating it). Just under 9 hours after the redirect was created, user:JohnCD fully protected it, and it has remained that way since.
    The consensus of the second AfD was to delete and redirect to Kourtney Kardashian#Personal life, which is where Mr Disick is discusse, and I propose that we refine the redirect to point there. The redirect got over 74,000 hits in November, which almost certainly puts it in the top 1% most visited redirects, so it is unarguable that this is something people are looking for and the history of recreation also backs this up. I can find no evidence of any other person with this name who is mentioned on Wikipedia - indeed it's difficult to find anybody else with this name on google, so there is no question the target is correct. Thryduulf (talk) 08:57, 19 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
@Thryduulf, @Si Trew (and any others concerned) - I apologize. I read @Drmies comments/instructions at the last AFD (there were 4 altogether!!) and it appeared that he indicated any Disick redirect would require an official request for redirect. I apologize for my misunderstanding. Quis separabit? 02:58, 20 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
No need to apologise to me, but thanks all the same. Si Trew (talk) 02:19, 24 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
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Bitchuu Kojiro Station

(eubot). This one's been bugging me for a while but I better list it. Ive tried to find whether "uu" is a reasonable transliteration for "ū", I only did basic Japanese for a couple of years, and so I didn't do this kind of transliteration, I only did kana and stuff and vocab. From those basics it seems unlikely to me but it's probably OK, just not many English words end in "uu". (muumuu does, but that's Hawaiian.) Si Trew (talk) 00:15, 18 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Why would they do that? What would they do if they wrote it that way and found it was red? As for WP:RFD#K2, in my opinion we don't need that kind of accidental linking, in general, as it just makes articles worse (spell it right in the article in the first place): K2 largely applies for frequent misspellings, and considering that this has had two hits in the ninety days before this discussion, it's not frequent. I can't see that WP:RFD#D3 is very strong since a search is likely to find it whether there's a redirect or not, and WP:RFD#K5 has not been demonstrated, nobody here has said they find it useful, and if a mere creation is deemed to mean someone finds it useful – someone on this occasion being a bot – then we might as well shut up shop. And arguing "I find it useful because of WP:RFD#K5" – not that anyone has – would be rather circular. Si Trew (talk) 11:30, 25 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
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Second Cataclysm

note: I put a note about needing step 1 done at Talk:Second Cataclysm if anyone wants to do that, can't due to a ban on redirect-editing.

I would either like to re-target this to Cadillacs and Dinosaurs: The Second Cataclysm or else have it changed into a disambiguation page if we can prove it has any relevance to the "Dragons of Summer Flame" novel in the Dragonlance series. I'm not sure if this was a phrase used in the book or not, but the phrase is not mentioned at the article. User:DoomsDay349 originally pointed it at Chaos War in 2006 and a robot changed it in 2012 due to that now pointing to the DOSF page. I'm a little confused at how this happened since CW was an article about a Marvel Comics event since 2010 but maybe it got moved sometime overtop of something else previously there? Maybe only a mod could answer that... where is the page history of Chaos War from 2006 to 2009? If it was over-wrote could we possibly restore it to Chaos War (Dragonlance) so it's viewable but then redirect that to Dragons of Summer Flame? That way the history of DL's CW could be checked to see if it uses the phrase Second Cataclysm anywhere, and if so, which books it is derived from.

I am wagering on disambiguation page because I do notice that while DOSF doesn't use the SC phrase, the Prisoner of Haven article mentions "It is set in the year 421 AC (After Cataclysm), also known as 38 SC (Second Cataclysm)." in the opening.

Since there is not a chaos war article for Dragonlance anymore, I think a disambig could serve not just to mention the Cadillacs and Dinosaurs game, but also to explain whatever it means in respect to the dragonlance novels, rather than directing to the article of just 1 book which doesn't even explain it. Ranze (talk) 10:34, 2 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Toby Onwumere

Articles for actors should not be redirected to a singular article of their works, as they take part in multiple works. Alex|The|Whovian? 05:56, 2 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Delete and delist redlink. Sounds like a WP:TOOSOON case for Onwumere. Toby isn't strongly associated with only this part for his entire career. AngusWOOF (bark • sniff) 19:22, 2 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

A.V. Software

Ambiguous, in IT, the abbreviation A.V. can also refer to audiovisual, and note we don't have AV software itself. - CHAMPION (talk) (contributions) (logs) 04:04, 2 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Domates

WP:RFOREIGN no significant affinity for Turkish. - CHAMPION (talk) (contributions) (logs) 03:56, 2 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

A sandwich

Per the precedents of redirects of this kind, nobody will search for this unless there is a topic with this exact name as an alternative name for something that already has an article, then retarget there, but this is implausible. - CHAMPION (talk) (contributions) (logs) 03:43, 2 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Chocolate crust

Not mentioned in target, except Raspberry_pie in a hatnote, so WP:R#DELETE 10, as it will not be helpful to a reader. These are far from implausible search terms, but the current situation is misleading. - CHAMPION (talk) (contributions) (logs) 03:37, 2 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Raspberry pie should definitely point to Raspberry Pi somehow, either as in the current situation, or a redirect to Raspberry Pi, or a DAB page. I think the latter is perhaps the best. CapitalSasha ~ talk 06:50, 2 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Niyog

Possible retarget to Niyoga and remove the hatnote there per WP:NOTDIC because from what I can gather, this is a synonym for Niyoga [9], not sure exactly if it is the case, though, we don't have an expert on these matters who is a regular at RFD, AFAIK. - CHAMPION (talk) (contributions) (logs) 03:30, 2 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Niyok

Not sure if this is a valid name in any language, Google translate does not help, mostly get results for a character in some video game, not sure if notable (I highly doubt it, though). - CHAMPION (talk) (contributions) (logs) 03:26, 2 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

It does appear as a local-language term for "coconut" in texts that have to do with Guam [10] – but that's deletable as a standard WP:RFOREIGN. – Uanfala (talk) 14:37, 2 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Purple bananas

Broken anchor, just one instance of "purple" in target, IDK what it may refer to specifically. - CHAMPION (talk) (contributions) (logs) 03:22, 2 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Ndisi

Not related to whatever language this is, but from my little bit of research, this isn't a word in any language, but there is an article on the Swedish Wikipedia about a town in the Congo with this name, so perhaps a WP:REDLINK deletion, people looking for that would be mislead. - CHAMPION (talk) (contributions) (logs) 03:20, 2 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Apples and teachers

WP:XY. - CHAMPION (talk) (contributions) (logs) 03:13, 2 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Green apples

This set is in a mess right now, there are multiple green apples other than Granny Smith, e.g. Michelin (apple) etc, I am happy with any outcome except keeping these. FYI, there are certain tracks in albums with some of these names as well, so maybe a dab page. - CHAMPION (talk) (contributions) (logs) 03:06, 2 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Retarget to Granny Smith as primary topic. Create dab page for the apple cultivars, Green Apple Books & Music, and Mrs. Green Apple, Green Apple Festival (music festival). AngusWOOF (bark • sniff) 19:46, 2 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Toowoomba Chronicle and and Darling Downs Gazette

The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more redirects. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the redirect's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the discussion was speedy delete per WP:CSD#G6. Thryduulf (talk) 21:25, 2 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Please delete as double "and" is an apparent typo. It is an implausible term for searching and has now been replaced by a move to a re-direct page without the double "and" typo to The Toowoomba Chronicle. Loopy30 (talk) 02:57, 2 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the discussion. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page.
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