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Lead too long!
Apparently the maintenance template with links to the guidelines wasn't enough of an explanation to why they were added, so I re-added them and am making a note in the talk page about this.
The lead is too long for this article. I would alter the lead myself, but I feel it is best to leave that to the people who know what information is best to have in the lead. Thanks. {MordeKyle} ☢ 20:12, 29 November 2016 (UTC)
I also agree with this. I am no expert on Ike so I won't be doing anything with it but I highly recommend a person experienced in the field of U.S. Presidents and WWII Generals to edit this so that it is suitable. This article in my opinion is nearing good article class it just needs a bit of improvement here and there (introduction) and then I believe it will be promoted. So yeah anyone who can fix it please fix it! CnocBride (talk) 11:58, 31 December 2016 (UTC)
1960s Military service
Hi,
Eisenhower's sidebar states that his military service resumed in 1965 until 1969 but there is no source or mention of this in the body of the article. Can anyone shed any light on this?
Hypnoticmonkey (talk) 15:37, 18 January 2017 (UTC)
- I checked on this earlier. The info is mentioned and sourced in the last paragraph of the "End of presidency" section. —ADavidB 22:31, 18 January 2017 (UTC)
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Add citation for "The Eisenhower Golf Club at the United States Air Force Academy, a 36-hole facility featuring the Blue and Silver courses, which is ranked No. 1 among DoD courses, is named in his honor."
From Air Force site: http://www.goairforcefalcons.com/facilities/eisenhower-golf.html Aconner3 (talk) 00:40, 5 April 2017 (UTC)
Not done for now: Could you find a better source? It doesn't appear to support the number-one ranking you claim. Even if it did, it's the "Official Site of Air Force Athletics", which suggests it isn't an independent source. Who does the ranking, anyway? RivertorchFIREWATER 05:16, 5 April 2017 (UTC)
Strange contradiction
Why did Eisenhower support European imperialism in Iran and Vietnam, yet oppose it in Egypt? (86.144.85.72 (talk) 09:04, 15 May 2017 (UTC))
- He strongly supported an independent South Vietnam and kept pressuring France in that regard. In Iran the question was the legitimacy of the Shah's rule Rjensen (talk) 18:26, 21 May 2017 (UTC)
- South Vietnam was a product of Western imperialism. The people wanted a united Vietnam. Eisenhower intervened in Iran to prevent the British-owned oil industry from being nationalized. (FarnuBak (talk) 15:09, 22 May 2017 (UTC))
- which people wanted a united Vietnam?? how did their vote work out? Rjensen (talk) 15:14, 22 May 2017 (UTC)
- When was a vote held on partitioning Korea, Austro-Hungary, the Ottoman Empire, the United States, Czechoslovakia, Poland, Germany, and Ireland? The majority of people in Vietnam wanted a united country, which is why the US illegally invaded after the French were driven out. (FarnuBak (talk) 15:18, 22 May 2017 (UTC))
- This is not a forum for individual thoughts on the article. If constructive changes to the article are sought, please state them specifically and provide reliable sources to support those changes. —ADavidB 16:12, 22 May 2017 (UTC)
- The article needs to make clear why he supported colonialism in Iran and Vietnam, but not in Egypt. (FarnuBak (talk) 16:18, 22 May 2017 (UTC))
- Then find reliable sources that explain the motivations of his various actions and edit the article accordingly. Nobody's stopping you from improving the article, provided that you have reliable sources to cite while doing it. LacrimosaDiesIlla (talk) 16:28, 22 May 2017 (UTC)
- This historian's analysis provides a lot of details and notes that U.S. policy goals toward Egypt in the 1950s conflicted with themselves. What other sources are there? —ADavidB 16:37, 22 May 2017 (UTC)
- The article needs to make clear why he supported colonialism in Iran and Vietnam, but not in Egypt. (FarnuBak (talk) 16:18, 22 May 2017 (UTC))
- which people wanted a united Vietnam?? how did their vote work out? Rjensen (talk) 15:14, 22 May 2017 (UTC)
- South Vietnam was a product of Western imperialism. The people wanted a united Vietnam. Eisenhower intervened in Iran to prevent the British-owned oil industry from being nationalized. (FarnuBak (talk) 15:09, 22 May 2017 (UTC))
- He strongly supported an independent South Vietnam and kept pressuring France in that regard. In Iran the question was the legitimacy of the Shah's rule Rjensen (talk) 18:26, 21 May 2017 (UTC)
- European imperalism was far from the most important issue for Eisenhower's foreign policy (though it was a factor), so there isn't much of a contradiction here. I think the article makes it fairly clear that managing the Cold War was at the center of his foreign policy. These were also three very different situations: Vietnam involved supporting a colonial power against a left-wing insurgency in its colony, Egypt involved stopping an invasion by foreign powers, and Iran involved supporting an internal coup. Orser67 (talk) 01:43, 26 May 2017 (UTC)
- The Iranian coup was by the British Empire and the Vietnam conflict was by France, yet Eisenhower opposed those same imperialist/colonialist polices in Egypt? (FarnuBak (talk) 10:59, 26 May 2017 (UTC))
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