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Revisiting an independent "multisystem proteinopathy" page

Our discussion regarding restoring an independent "multisystem proteinopathy" page seems to have fallen through the cracks again. It's now been languishing since April. If you don't have time to get back to this, can you please point me to someone else who can help? Thanks. 192.55.208.10 (talk) 17:37, 15 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

This issue needs attention. Can you please help or direct me to someone who can? Posted on the IBM talk page as well.192.55.208.10 (talk) 17:41, 12 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

We're approaching the six-month mark since this issue was first raised. If you are unable to help with this page, please let me know how I should proceed. Posting on the IBM talk page as well.192.55.208.10 (talk) 13:52, 8 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

biblical criticism

I wondered if you had seen the DYK? mention of biblical criticism--I thought you might approve. Jenhawk777 (talk) 04:43, 1 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

That's great! Jytdog (talk) 13:25, 1 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

We worked it for nearly two months, and a shortened version of the original suggestion is the best we did! Jenhawk777 (talk) 14:09, 1 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Yeah that process can really drag out. I did it once, just to see what it was like. Jytdog (talk) 14:52, 1 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

I did it one other time on the Bible and humor--Grabergs nominated that one--and it didn't drag out quite as long as this one, so maybe they aren't always that bad. Gerda nominated this one. She does lots of DYK? Mostly though I didn't think this was the best hook. Once someone has taken against an idea though, it's dead. No amount of defending it will save it. So the one I liked best came to an ignominious end. :-) I was hoping for more hits on the page as a result and maybe someone interested enough to show up and go through the FAC--so far nothing. This article was a long shot for FAC anyway, but I had to at least try--right? Jenhawk777 (talk) 16:29, 1 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Right! Jytdog (talk) 17:43, 1 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Hello again. I know you're thrilled to hear from me again, (humor) but I wanted to be sure and tell you that, in spite of the fact neither one of us is 100% satisfied with how things turned out, I think all in all, for two strong minded people, we can both be proud for persevering, for giving a little and getting a little, and for the result. I wasn't sure the two of us--working together--were capable of that. (more humor) But we did it. You kept your cool all the way through this time, which enabled me to regain mine, so I wanted to sincerely thank you for that. (no humor at all there) I also wanted to tell you that content wise, I think your addition to the responses section turned out to be more of an improvement than I thought it would be. I went back and tweaked a little of the other two sections in response to that addition, and the whole section is stronger and more interesting because of it. I am thoroughly pleased with the result. I know you adapted on that one too, so again, thank you. Jytdog, you can be so nice sometimes! And so the opposite at others! (humor) It keeps me a little off-balance where you are concerned, but I am hoping that perhaps we have turned a corner--you may actually have turned it ahead of me--which is okay since I am following close behind. If we have really moved into a new comradeship here, I would like to invite you to take a look at the next big article redo I am working on, Ethics in the Bible. If you decide to come and yell at me some there, I feel confident you will do so first at the absence of division between Old and New T. I interpreted the title to equate to "Biblical ethics" which is a field of study in and of itself, and have gone from there onto various topics. I have confidence your input would be worth having. (no humor at all) But I do know you're busy and it's okay if you can't. Anyway, I wanted to say thank you, and I appreciate how you handled things, and the final result--which is better than Brittanica's if you go look--was worth it. (no humor at all) Thanx again Jytdog. Jenhawk777 (talk) 17:16, 7 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

I am not sure we are quite done at the criticism page, but we are getting there.... You are welcome and thanks for working with me too. I will look at the biblical ethics page. Btw have you had time to dig into the Boys and Levenson pieces? This is so important. Christian salvation history defined over-against Judaism is so deeply rooted in the Christian tradition, and is all over the place in content in Wikipedia, even as it is being rooted out of the scholarly fields.... Jytdog (talk) 17:44, 7 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

I am not finished but am reading. I am genuinely interested so I will finish them. I have an Israeli friend that tells me all the time that I have a Jewish soul. :-) I think that's the nicest compliment I've ever received. I have run across several good cooperative works between Jewish and Christian writers these days. I find the fact of that collaboration as fascinating as the books themselves. One of our mutually adored writers--Tykva Frymer-Kensky--recently helped edit a book titled "Christianity In Jewish Terms" that I thought was excellent--of course everything she works on is. Things are definitely changing which is a very good thing. I'm glad I have lived long enough to see it. So--I'm almost afraid to ask--but what are you still unhappy about at BC? Jenhawk777 (talk) 21:40, 7 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Jytdog! I went to the historical Jesus page. I was going to see if I could agree you were right about moving all the historical Jesus stuff there --or not-- and what I wrote on criteria is there! When did you move it there? Why didn't you tell me? It wasn't there the first time I looked at that page! GD it all!! It does fit there, and now I'm thinking you were right along, and it is really pissing me off because now I feel really stupid and it's just because it was you and the way you have done things with me from the start. I get my back up as soon as I see your name. GD Jytdog! I just shot myself in the proverbial foot over nothing. You took what I wrote and put it in another article and I couldn't feel more humiliated if you had taken out an ad and plastered my name everywhere. You were right. GD! You were right. You should have told me, but still, you were right. The rest of it should all go there too. God bless America--I don't know what has been more of a struggle for me--you calling everything crap or you accepting what I wrote and moving it where it works the best. Do you hate everything I write or don't you? I don't know what to do now. Interacting with you turns me upside down every time. If I take this off of BC and move it into HJ will you fight me there or won't you? AArgh! This is making me crazy! Jenhawk777 (talk) 04:40, 8 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Go look please. We have ended up exactly where you set out to go. Just shoot me and put me out of my misery. I'm sorry Jytdog. Jenhawk777 (talk) 18:32, 8 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

So...it turns out I am two kinds of idiot and everything else you've ever implied about me. I went back and looked and finally clicked on that link and saw that you did tell me about moving criteria. I didn't know because I didn't look...because I am an idiot and deserve some of the things you've said. Eating crow now--and will be eating it for a long time I'm thinking. Not only were you right, but I was a putz about it from beginning to end. You have my most genuine, deepest--and most thoroughly humiliated--apologies that have ever been offered. I will do better dealing with you in the future. I promise. I am so so sorry Jytdog. I can't say it enough. I am enjoying Levinson by the way, and so far I have agreed with everything he says. If I decide to argue with something he says--I promise to leave you alone! :-) Jenhawk777 (talk) 21:40, 11 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

I am glad you are finding the Levenson fruitful and are pleased with the content at Historical Jesus. Jytdog (talk) 08:08, 12 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Oh wow, thanx! Hey, since you have participated in Biblical criticism becoming what it is now--how about doing a review at FAC? ALL your comments there can be negative! :-) Just teasing!! Jenhawk777 (talk) 19:38, 12 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Hmm

I could mistaken but I have the impression that Special:Contributions/Tuchler smells of COI? What brought it to my attention was Martin Zielke and Special:Permalink/858000802 (then also noticing this, but the latter is disclosed and seems to be someone else). Your input is welcome, —Paleo Neonate – 03:30, 6 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

This is very borderline and I am very unsure. This person may just have an interest in corporate bios. The bank rep stepping in has not helped but rather complicated things... Jytdog (talk) 22:21, 11 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, we'll see how future edits unfold, thanks again for your help, —Paleo Neonate – 04:12, 12 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Redundant one-way IBANs, etc.

Are you going to request EditorDownUnder's ban be lifted in favour of a simply community block or site ban that can be logged on their user page rather than clogging up WP:RESTRICT? They were indef-blocked one month after they were one-way IBANned, so the logging at RESTRICT was effectively useless (those logs are really only useful for long-term issues where memories are liable to fade) and there was little doubt that they were NOTHERE to begin with. I requested this guy's one-way IBAN be lifted for the sole purpose of getting my name removed from RESTRICT, and he wasn't even indef-blocked.

That said, if you want to propose a sanction on David Tornheim, who definitely seems to be hounding you (he's edited two ANI threads in the last sixteen months, both related to you, and his comments in both have been serving to undermine you, which would be suspicious enough if he had no prior history with you whatsoever), I would definitely support that.

Hijiri 88 (聖やや) 02:37, 9 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

On the first thing, no. I don't think about these people and it is not worth doing anything unless they pick up again. On the second, it is my impression that no one pays much mind to Tornheim when they do that stuff. Jytdog (talk) 11:56, 9 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Good thinking. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 17:09, 9 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Not thinking = good thinking sometimes? sounds chopra-esque! Jytdog (talk) 17:11, 9 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Well, he does make a lot of money, maybe there's something to it? Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 17:39, 9 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Something, yes. But what? "Perception transcends the doorway to photons" Jytdog (talk) 18:22, 9 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Transcend perception in one hand, shit in the other, see which one fills up first. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 19:01, 9 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Now there are some angels dancing on pinheads. Jytdog (talk) 04:23, 10 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Web economy bullshit generator

Your recent user page update reminded me of this, in case you'd like it. I don't remember what the original was, as many have created their own variants in their favorite languages (and have written two variants myself), but a search should find several. You may already know it, too... —Paleo Neonate – 07:49, 9 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Perfectly awful. :) I was not familiar with that. Similar to the Chopra generator. Jytdog (talk) 10:38, 9 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

And I didn't know that one.

—Paleo Neonate – 10:44, 9 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

"Transcendence is in the midst of potential space time events." Well, can't argue with that. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 11:37, 9 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Modafinil reversion

Hello,

I noticed you reverted an edit to the modafinil page I made because it lacked a secondary source and only had a primary source.

I have a secondary source ( a systematic clinical review) (https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16669720) that also addresses modafinil for post-anesthesia sedation. It is on page 6.

Would that suffice as a secondary source?

best wishes,

gardenofalpeh — Preceding unsigned comment added by Gardenofaleph (talk • contribs) 18:16, 9 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

In the research section, sure. Jytdog (talk) 18:18, 9 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Gardenofaleph (talk) 18:35, 9 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Okay. Can I then add the primary source for clarification of the details of the study or should I not link to it at all?

Please don't use it at all. Please just summarize what the review says. Thanks. Jytdog (talk) 18:55, 9 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Okay. I will do so now. Thanks for your clarifications. Gardenofaleph (talk) 18:59, 9 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Just in case

If you get shafted with one of those easily gameable two-way IBANs (it's probably now reached a point where even though almost everyone is in agreement you did nothing wrong, "the community" probably won't accept your refusal if you request not to be treated to a two-way sanction "for your own protection"), a lot of experienced editors have now observed that you are the victim of hounding by an editor who has specifically gamed the system in an attempt to get you in trouble. I have no doubt that a two-way IBAN will just be another tool in Andy's shed, but if you ever see that happen you can feel free to run it by me (via email, if need be) or to ping me when you report him. Softlavender (talk · contribs) is also pretty good with these things, and while Curly Turkey (talk · contribs) has not gotten involved yet (surprisingly, given how the only thing Andy's been able to throw at you that managed to stick, and the thing everyone else who isn't just making a good-faith "I don't like one-way IBANs" argument has honed in on, is that you used foul language...) knows his way around them too, in my experience. (That said, if the gaming on Andy's part was clear-cut enough, you could probably just ask Swarm or Bish to block him; they're "involved", but performing an administrative action that only an inappropriately involved admin would not would be unlikely to cause problems.) Hijiri 88 (聖やや) 03:38, 10 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks, I am really not worried. Either way this goes, Andy will control himself, or he won't.Jytdog (talk) 04:09, 10 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry, what was I pinged for? I assume this has to do with ANI and saying "fuck" a lot? The language is an issue only in the way it's used: there's a world of difference between saying "this is such a motherfucking mess" and "you are such a motherfucker". I don't know what "foul language" Jytdog has used or in what context, I don't think I've ever made a public statement about what I think of IBANs (two-way or otherwise), and I don't make a habit of visiting ANI (which is a motherfucking mess as often as not). Curly "JFC" Turkey 🍁 ¡gobble! 04:18, 10 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

I have no idea, but fucking hell, hi! Jytdog (talk) 04:20, 10 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

@Curly Turkey: Jytdog is up for a two-way IBAN because Andy Dingley manipulated a series of events to drag him to ANI, allegedly over a number of users supposedly calling him out for his foul language, which curiously included this comment by yours truly, though (quite transparently) in reality as a result of a long-held grudge over Jytdog having filed a "fake SPI" (that was CU-endorsed) back in 2016. Almost no one on ANI actually thinks the foul language, or even the outburst in which it was used, or the blanking of content, is sanctionable, and almost all are in agreement that an IBAN to protect Jytdog from more of this bullshit is in order, but the one-way option has run up against opposition both from (a) bad-faith friends of Andy and enemies of Jytdog and (b) good-faith editors who just don't like one-way IBANs, most of whom have actually never been subject to an IBAN themselves but are convinced that two-way IBANs are less liable to gaming than one-way, despite my authoritative voice on the matter telling them otherwise. I have seen absolutely no evidence that a two-way IBAN will not immediately be gamed, just subjective statements that "I'm not a fan of one-way IBANs" from editors who, unlike me, probably have no idea what they are talking about. I assume you know what I mean when I talk about bad-faith gaming of a two-way IBAN; your on-the-record disdain for the "He said fuck! Block him!" crowd is actually kinda peripheral to why I pinged you (I don't think Softlavender shares your view on that point anyway). Hijiri 88 (聖やや) 05:03, 10 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

[1] —Paleo Neonate – 05:13, 10 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Softlavender's on the record as disliking my manner of locution, but she's never called for sanctions against it (I wouldn't know if she has with someone else). Otherwise, you're just making ANI sound exactly like the ANI I know. I know well enough that IBANs have been gamed, but I don't have an opinion on whether they should or shouldn't be used, or about one-way vs two-way. As long as WP is policed by volunteer cops and drive-by mobs, anything and everything can and will be gamed. Curly "JFC" Turkey 🍁 ¡gobble! 06:12, 10 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Hijiri88, btw.... I believe you are trying to be kind, but i don't like wikipolitics nor even the appearance of them. If i am doing the right thing i expect that people will see that, and when I fuck up i expect to hear about that. That is how I operate too. Just saying. Jytdog (talk) 04:35, 10 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

For the record, the ANI has been closed with a one-way IBAN as well as some good advice. --Tryptofish (talk) 20:43, 10 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the heads up. Jytdog (talk) 23:16, 10 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

St Paul's Church, Auckland

Hi Jytog. I think there might be some undisclosed COI editing going on with respect to this article as explained at Talk:St Paul's Church, Auckland. So, I was wondering if you'd mind taking a look at it just in case I'm reading too much into things. I was going to post something on the editor's user talk, but thought it be best to get another opinion after seeing their response to another COI notification/post at User talk:E James Bowman#Scandrett Regional Park, especially since the circumstances in that case seem somewhat similar to this one. -- Marchjuly (talk) 00:30, 11 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Friendly advice

A talented writer, which you surely are, ought to be able to select words that are functionally equivalent to "dogshit, but less controversial when assessing content. Words that may actually better describe the shortcomings of the content, so that the result of the discussions is a better encyclopedia. Words that do not scare away sincere productive young people from conservative cultures. Please select your words more carefully. Please. Cullen³²⁸ Let's discuss it 07:38, 11 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

To quote Bishonen, "I try to ration the word to where it's really, really needed. Please don't devalue a valuable expletive by overuse"

She was talking about a different word, but the principle is sound. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 10:22, 11 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Agree with Cullen328. --David Tornheim (talk) 11:06, 11 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks Cullen. Jytdog (talk) 12:43, 11 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Engaging with a new user

Hi Jytdog, I wondered if you could give me some advice about engaging with BusinessExpert99. I've had a discussion with him on his Talk page and he's clearly cross and is talking about ceasing to contribute to Wikipedia. He's a new editor and I'd like to retain him if possible - do you have any thoughts? Many thanks, Tacyarg (talk) 20:17, 11 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

That's a hard one. The person is already pretty angry.

This sort of thing happens a lot, exactly due to our open nature and the lack of any orientation process for new users. Some people come on in, start doing stuff, fail, and get angry and leave. That is how some people behave in new environments.

To help save this person from him or herself, you have to engage them in conversation. You'll have to pet them a bit to soothe them -- explain that it is hard to learn and lots of people struggle at first, and that it just takes time and they will figure it out if they keep at it.

But then comes the very hard task of helping them see what we actually do here, and how we do it. Some people won't see that, and if they won't, they will be happier doing something else with their time. Some people will see it.

This person seems to be writing about a small group of people. Likely, people they know. This is not uncommon but is a bad way to start because a) there is so much temptation to "write what you know" instead of summarizing sources, and b) generally there is poor judgement about notability in such situations; and c) if they do have a COI, the conflict of interest makes it all the harder for the person to see what we do here (as opposed to seeing the opportunity to promote whatever their external interest is).

It is often useful to ask a person who has edited this way, for a disclosure of any connections with subjects they have written about, so that you understand where they are coming from - that understanding will help you help them to get oriented. I imagine people have their own ways of doing that. Mine is here.

If it is helpful to you, I wrote User:Jytdog/How which tries to explain what our mission is, and how we try to realize it. Jytdog (talk) 21:38, 11 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks very much, that's useful. This user has now been banned for sockpuppetry, but I'll remember what you say for the future. Best wishes, Tacyarg (talk) 16:32, 12 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Too far gone to help. ah well. Jytdog (talk) 16:39, 12 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Folate

can you please give an explanation why you took my paragraph down from the page? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Chrisbunbu (talk • contribs) 03:08, 12 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

my edit note said not OK per WP:MEDRS and I left you this message on your user talk page (User talk:Chrisbunbu). Did you look at WP:MEDRS or read that message on your talk page? Jytdog (talk) 05:15, 12 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Edit war warning

You have sort of opened a discussion at WT:MEDRS. Please continue there.

Your recent editing history at Familial amyloid polyneuropathy shows that you are currently engaged in an edit war. To resolve the content dispute, please do not revert or change the edits of others when you are reverted. Instead of reverting, please use the talk page to work toward making a version that represents consensus among editors. The best practice at this stage is to discuss, not edit-war. See BRD for how this is done. If discussions reach an impasse, you can then post a request for help at a relevant noticeboard or seek dispute resolution. In some cases, you may wish to request temporary page protection.

Being involved in an edit war can result in your being blocked from editing—especially if you violate the three-revert rule, which states that an editor must not perform more than three reverts on a single page within a 24-hour period. Undoing another editor's work—whether in whole or in part, whether involving the same or different material each time—counts as a revert. Also keep in mind that while violating the three-revert rule often leads to a block, you can still be blocked for edit warring—even if you don't violate the three-revert rule—should your behavior indicate that you intend to continue reverting repeatedly. Jytdog (talk) 05:19, 13 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

I was here on WP years before you got here. And the person recently and repeatedly sanctioned for edit-warring and topic-pushing, would be YOU. Do not warn me about your own editing problems. I'm fine. It's you who historically rub people the wrong way on WP. S B H arris 05:48, 13 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Scott Wagner

I'm not sure what you think I've missed in my conversations with VAndring, but the piling on is unnecessary. They have concerns about BLP violations at Scott Wagner, saying that the article has been edited by his political opponent. I am assuming good faith in my interactions, ignoring the anger and frustration that keeps coming out, and trying to get to the bottom of any concerns. I want the same thing as you do—an article that's accurate and neutral. Brad v 02:43, 14 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

You are doing great! Thanks for that. Jytdog (talk) 02:55, 14 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

While I'm not sure their efforts were entirely successful, the article is much improved. Thanks for the support. Brad v 06:19, 14 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Notice

You are involved in a recently filed request for arbitration. Please review the request at Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case#Creationism and NPOV and, if you wish to do so, enter your statement and any other material you wish to submit to the Arbitration Committee. As threaded discussion is not permitted on most arbitration pages, please ensure that you make all comments in your own section only. Additionally, the guide to arbitration and the Arbitration Committee's procedures may be of use.

Thanks, funplussmart (talk) 22:16, 14 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

This arbitration case request has been closed. For the Arbitration Committee, Kevin (aka L235 · t · c) 01:25, 15 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

AE?

You read my mind. I was wondering why an AE case wasn't filed regarding the Is Genesis History? page. The ANI discussion is too disjointed and the folks are not able to see things properly, myself included. -- Kautilya3 (talk) 12:20, 15 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

It may come to that. The ANI was a useful first step.Jytdog (talk) 16:52, 15 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Editør

See Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Editør/Archive. I think this is a spammer. What do you think? Guy (Help!) 21:57, 15 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

the quacking, the quacking! PROMO for sure. Jytdog (talk) 22:05, 15 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

A barnstar for you!

	The Defender of the Wiki Barnstar
	For calling the Wikipedia project, beautiful and for defending the project against the hordes of Visigoths that seek to corrupt, subvert and destroy it. scope_creep (talk) 10:43, 16 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Cheers, —Paleo Neonate – 11:52, 16 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Patrick Bet-David

You have reversed me adding about the ethnic background of the said person. I was just on the process of adding references, but you reversed without much time given. About his Assyrian and Armenian origin, see for example his own post in his own Facebook account post. Here is his post message to President Donald Trump : message. Just listen to the first 2 sentences where he mentions his ethnicity and the actual name of his father David Ben-David (Assyrian) and his mother Boghossian (an Armenian). werldwayd (talk) 17:28, 16 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Please discuss content on the article talk page. Please be careful in sourcing - we can discuss there. Jytdog (talk) 17:29, 16 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

I have posted the same at Talk:Patrick Bet-David for discussion and reinstating his clear Assyrian and Armenian descent. werldwayd (talk) 17:36, 16 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

undid changes to the low carbohydrate diet page

Earlier I left changes regarding the brain utilization of glucose and ketones, but it appears that this has been undone. Please explain the issue as to why this occurred. I have a PhD in neurophysiology and biochemistry. The changes I made were textbook understandings of neuronal and brain function and clarified incomplete information regarding the site. I also serve as an editor-in-chief for the Journal of Evolution and Health (jevohealth.com).

Perhaps I've done something procedurally wrong?? If so, please advise.

Sincerely, David C Pendergrass, PhD — Preceding unsigned comment added by Drpendergrass (talk • contribs) 22:11, 17 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks very much for your note! I left you a "welcome" message at your talk page, at User talk:Drpendergrass. Please check it out. And welcome! Jytdog (talk) 22:28, 17 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

NPR Newsletter No.13 18 September 2018

Hello Jytdog, thank you for your work reviewing New Pages!

The New Page Feed currently has 2700 unreviewed articles, up from just 500 at the start of July. For a while we were falling behind by an average of about 40 articles per day, but we have stabilised more recently. Please review some articles from the back of the queue if you can (Sort by: 'Oldest' at Special:NewPagesFeed), as we are very close to having articles older than one month.

Project news

The New Page Feed now has a new "Articles for Creation" option which will show drafts instead of articles in the feed, this shouldn't impact NPP activities and is part of the WMF's AfC Improvement Project.

As part of this project, the feed will have some larger updates to functionality next month. Specifically, ORES predictions will be built in, which will automatically flag articles for potential issues such as vandalism or spam. Copyright violation detection will also be added to the new page feed. See the projects's talk page for more info.

There are a number of coordination tasks for New Page Patrol that could use some help from experienced reviewers. See Wikipedia:New pages patrol/Coordination#Coordinator tasks for more info to see if you can help out.

Other

A new summary page of reliable sources has been created; Wikipedia:Identifying reliable sources/Perennial sources, which summarizes existing RfCs or RSN discussions about regularly used sources.

Moving to Draft and Page Mover

Some unsuitable new articles can be best reviewed by moving them to the draft space, but reviewers need to do this carefully and sparingly. It is most useful for topics that look like they might have promise, but where the article as written would be unlikely to survive AfD. If the article can be easily fixed, or if the only issue is a lack of sourcing that is easily accessible, tagging or adding sources yourself is preferable. If sources do not appear to be available and the topic does not appear to be notable, tagging for deletion is preferable (PROD/AfD/CSD as appropriate). See additional guidance at WP:DRAFTIFY.
If the user moves the draft back to mainspace, or recreates it in mainspace, please do not re-draftify the article (although swapping it to maintain the page history may be advisable in the case of copy-paste moves). AfC is optional except for editors with a clear conflict of interest.
Articles that have been created in contravention of our paid-editing-requirements or written from a blatant NPOV perspective, or by authors with a clear COI might also be draftified at discretion.
The best tool for draftification is User:Evad37/MoveToDraft.js^(info). Kindly adapt the text in the dialogue-pop-up as necessary (the default can also be changed like this). Note that if you do not have the Page Mover userright, the redirect from main will be automatically tagged as CSD R2, but in some cases it might be better to make this a redirect to a different page instead.
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Monero_(cryptocurrency)

Your wholesale revert has left the article with an inaccurate heading. You mentioned that you wanted to expand the article yourself. Do you still plan on doing that? Fireice (talk) 16:17, 18 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the unsigned edit war warning on my talk page, in my 10 years at WP I have never been to AN3 (which should not be taken that I'm more experienced, note that I have referred to you as a more senior editor couple days ago). I would appreciate a reply in the article's talk section instead though Fireice (talk) 13:58, 19 September 2018 (UTC) (redacted Fireice (talk) 19:29, 19 September 2018 (UTC), marked as such by me Jytdog (talk) 19:36, 19 September 2018 (UTC))[reply]

I'm sorry you got so fixated on the above comment. Perhaps this will help [2] ? Fireice (talk) 19:08, 19 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

What I am frustrated by, is that you are aggressively pushing for the content you want as though the world were on fire, and consistently trying to brush off discussion of the behavior issues, including with the claim above. The way you are behaving, pushing and PUSHING and PUSHING for the content you want and ignoring the behavioral discussion, is exactly how every unself-aware conflicted editor behaves. I am out of patience with you. (btw if you want to withdraw the claim above you can strike it. See WP:REDACT) Jytdog (talk) 19:17, 19 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

I amended it. On my part I feel like you are actively avoiding questions that are designed to build consensus [3]. And I'm still not sure what behavioural issues you are talking about as you have refused to elaborate beyond "RTFM". Fireice (talk) 19:29, 19 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Please stay off my talk page. You'll either mind COI and the GS or you won't, and I will deal with that at whatever board is required. I will deal with content with you at the article talk page. Jytdog (talk) 19:33, 19 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for your message here. I recommend that you take a break for a day or two, and then review your own responses to people attempting to engage politely with you on the article in question. You've been polite enough to me, but your aggression towards people who presume to work on the article itself is harmful. Please remember that Wikipedia is about the content, not about the contributors. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 88.145.104.127 (talk • contribs) 18:32, 19 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for your note. I'm fine. I urge you to review the conflict of interest guideline at WP:COI and disclose any crypto holdings you have,. as well as WP:GS/Crypto. I will give you formal notice of them on your talk page Jytdog (talk) 18:35, 19 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for the link. It's been a while since I last read Wikipedia's COI guidance, but the underlying thinking seems to have stayed the same. I do not recommend wheeling out COI as a tool for avoiding two-way discussion. If you discern COI influences in a contribution, then you should certainly point them out to the contributor; but please take care not to undermine genuine COI concerns by indiscriminately shouting "COI!". A contributor who's being accused of one COI by one editor is going to find it especially galling to be accused of a mutually opposing COI by another editor. I've read the rest the the Talk page, and I'm picking up a lot of "We don't like this person making a sound case for his edits; lets hit him with a COI complaint that's too vague for him to answer." It's a shame that Wikipedia has degenerated into this. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 88.145.104.127 (talk • contribs) 22:32, 19 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

That's not what I am doing. You can read about my approach to COI management on my talk page if you like. The problem here is that Fireice is ignoring the COI guideline as well as the GS. If they were engaging with them they would be behaving differently, but I cannot even get them to engage on this fundamental thing. The content is slowly moving toward resolution, quite separately from these behavioral issues. Jytdog (talk) 23:04, 19 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Challenging your revert

Thanks for the welcome and the medical article guidelines.

So that you are aware, I’ve created a new discussion ‘Definitions’ on the Talk page of the low-carbohydrate diet article to ask for your revert of my edits to be reversed. As you will see, I removed the unsourced part of the first sentence and added a plain English version of the complete Definitions from Table 1 of reference 2.

The article, as it stands, is incoherent, as someone had clearly marked over a year ago. Looking at the talk history, it seems others too have tried to improve the article but been rebuffed. Can it be so difficult to write a neutral article about low carbohydrate diets? I am aware of several recent references (both positive and negative) which are clearly missing from the article. Presumably others are too.

obhi 06:15, 19 September 2018 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Dlactyol (talk • contribs) 06:15, 19 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Please discuss content at the article talk page. See WP:BRD. I will respond there. Jytdog (talk) 06:17, 19 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

ANI

There is currently a discussion at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. Fireice (talk) 22:02, 19 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Oh my. Jytdog (talk) 22:48, 19 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Phage therapy

Hello,

You wrote: Hi! It seems like you have a very strong interest in phage therapy. That is an interesting field, and our content could use some updating. But there are some problems with your editing, with regard to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines. Would you please consider creating an account, so we can talk more easily? If you do, please drop me a note at my talk page, so I can help you get oriented. Best regards. Jytdog (talk) 05:03, 20 September 2018 (UTC)

So please let me know what needs improvement. Please be specific.

Thanks.

Riffstilde (talk) 08:24, 20 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for your note. I have left some messages at your talk page. Jytdog (talk) 14:27, 20 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for your message but it does not help. I read the litterature you asked me to read. I need to know what was wrong. I guess the way to go is to use the talk page to discuss on it? I wrote to you directly because you asked me to do so. Thank you.

Riffstilde (talk) 17:57, 20 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

I asked you to let me know here, when you had created an account. Please do see your talk page. Jytdog (talk) 18:05, 20 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Speedy deletion nomination of David F. Alfonso

Good morning, I’d like to contest the Speedy deletion nomination of David F. Alfonso page based on undisclosed financial stake in promoting a topic. I am not receiving any compensation for this content. I have createdt Mr. Alfonso’s page due to his military contributions. Please let me know how can proceed to resolve. Thx — Preceding unsigned comment added by Marvinlaing (talk • contribs) 11:38, 20 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Cough cough http://laingco.com/empire-rebranded/. Indef block is incoming SmartSE (talk) 11:46, 20 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Have you any F:s to give?

Huge spelling mistake on Cathay Pacific plane Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 11:53, 20 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Abulous! Jytdog (talk) 13:34, 20 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Secondary source question

Hi there! Thank you so much for the feedback on news articles! So helpful to know about the news articles. For the advocacy organizations, this seems to conflict with some information I received here previously. This document, which we call "Evidence Updates," is what I'm referring to: Evidence Update for Clinicians You can see another one, written for patients here Is this different? Again, thanks so much for your help! Nytodc (talk) 13:25, 20 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

You made the same reply at WT:MEDRS. I'll reply there. Jytdog (talk) 14:31, 20 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Draft; Yahoshea.

Sir, thank you for your good observations on my draft on Yahoshea. Truly, I have passion to write on the Sacred Name Movement as Christians have passion to write about Christian contents. A Christian posted "Jesus Christ", a Muslim posted about Islamic figure " Mohammad". In Sacred Name Movement, "Yahshua" had been posted. But the group is having many adherent that prefer "Yahoshea". This can be proven by the independent references I have cited as well as many other available contents in the Google that preferred use of the name Yahoshea for the Hebrew Messiah. These may serve as the required authorities for the use of Yahoshea amidst Sacred Name Movement as my post presented. Sir, I didn't cite myself, any of my works or those of my organization as reference. This makes the references to be independent from me. I will still love directions on areas of my mistake so that I will make amendment. Thank you and have a good day. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Yahzitere Yahmarabhi (talk • contribs) 18:43, 23 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for your note, but the sources are two self-published books and a blog. That is not going to cut it, for notability. And no, while people do edit what they are interested in, people who come to Wikipedia only to promote something are not using their editing privileges appropriately. Jytdog (talk) 18:55, 23 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Username change Current username "Teamfrank" Requested username "Freddie at the frank agency" has been queued

My username change request has been queued and is awaiting approval from a steward or global renamer. I will be notified by email when the request is processed. Current username Teamfrank Requested username Freddie at the frank agency — Preceding unsigned comment added by Teamfrank (talk • contribs) 13:38, 25 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Complete Step 2 - dealing with the other account; making disclosure at this account.

Step 2 is complete - dealing with the other account; making disclosure at this account. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Freddie at the frank agency (talk • contribs) 19:47, 25 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Cannabichromene

Can I interest you in taking a look at cannabichromene with an eye toward WP:MEDRS? You seem to have a good handle on how that policy should be applied to chemical compounds. ChemNerd (talk) 23:02, 25 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

I will do! Jytdog (talk) 00:28, 26 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you. It looks like Zefr got to it before you, but thanks for your help too! ChemNerd (talk) 11:36, 26 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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Conslutant

Now that I am in process of retiring from my dietary supplement consulting business, I wanted to share a spelling error (or else a Freudian slip?) that nearly got me in trouble when corresponding with potential clients. Thank the old gods and the new for spell check! When I started my business back in 2004 my wife had a T-shirt made for me. On the front "Conslutant" (with the quote marks). On the back: Someone who gives advice away for free when they should be charging for it. David notMD (talk) 13:01, 26 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

:) Jytdog (talk) 13:06, 26 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

User talk:Egraham831

"Mandatory paid editing disclosure" seems to be a mistake here, as their edit just changed passive voice to active voice in a few sentences. It looks like some articles, including Fischer & Söhne AG, are being suggested to users who create an account (I think I've read somewhere that this was being done, but can't remember where) and here it's probably a suggestion for copy editing. Some of the new accounts are vandals, others are paid editors making edits to become autoconfirmed so they can create new articles, but many are here to contribute legitimately. Peter James (talk) 22:58, 26 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Hm. Hm. OK I will remove the disclosure thing. Jytdog (talk) 23:05, 26 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

ESME-Sudria and other schools owned by IONIS Education Group

I am wondering if this guy is not paid to do vandalism on Wikipedia. It is crazy! 80.12.27.215 (talk) 00:46, 27 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Jytdog, maybe I misunderstood you at ANI, but you may need to look at that article again. IP, that is really a dumb accusation. Drmies (talk) 00:48, 27 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

(edit conflict) 80.12.27.215 Please familiarize yourself with wikipedia's paid editing policy, and also WP:BRD, you really need to stop insisting on banning anyone who removes promotional editing. Tornado chaser (talk) 00:50, 27 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

The main problem is EulerObama is a POV, negative behavior and vandal user blocked already twice for that. And he is doing again and again. Main issues are in front of us. 80.12.27.215 (talk) 00:52, 27 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

EulerObama needs to read as well, my feeling is he is paid. And I remove nobody, this is administor who blocked him twice. 80.12.27.215 (talk) 00:53, 27 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Who is administor who blocked him twice? Tornado chaser (talk) 00:56, 27 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Have a look on the black log man, this is very easy. Have a look as well on his behavior with the history. I am putting warnings, and I am not the only one, and you choose to ignore, that is your decision. 80.12.27.215 (talk) 00:58, 27 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

I have fixed the header. ESME-Sudria is promotional garbage, and so are the pages about other schools owned by IONIS Education Group. Jytdog (talk) 01:08, 27 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Not at all, specially if you compare to other schools. But our job to write better the article, that means we don’t need a POV user doing vandalism and most probably pay to do that to be with us. That kid just my feeling. 80.12.27.215 (talk) 01:11, 27 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

You are gunning for an indef, IP. Jytdog (talk) 01:12, 27 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

I have just ask him if he is paid to do what he is doing. We will see the answer. 80.12.27.215 (talk) 01:15, 27 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

jstor

Would it be possible to get this article? [4] I would like to use it to add some more content to BC. Thanx. Jenhawk777 (talk) 01:47, 28 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

done. Jytdog (talk) 02:41, 28 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

This is totally cool of you. Thank you again. Jenhawk777 (talk) 02:53, 28 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Breitbart

Is this an unreliable source? I didn't know. Is it meant to be like the UK's "Daily Mail" or something?Eugene-elgato (talk) 12:30, 28 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

(talk page stalker) See WP:Breitbart. ᛗᛁᛟᛚᚾᛁᚱPants Tell me all about it. 12:41, 28 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

(talk page stalker) The oppose iVotes are remarkably indicative of ... something ... -Roxy, in the middle. wooF 12:47, 28 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Ah, okay thanks guysEugene-elgato (talk) 07:39, 2 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

And it made you edit My Little Pony. That's so sweet. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 06:53, 4 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Feynman close

The RfC on the Feynman Prize article expired a couple of days ago. I'm wondering how you'd like to proceed. It looks pretty clear to me by the !votes that there's no consensus to remove content, with the exception of the photographs. Would you support settling this by removing the photos and keeping the rest of the content, and avoiding waiting for an administrative close? Antony–22 (^talk⁄_contribs) 01:36, 30 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for your note. Lots of people !voted; we should wait for it to be closed. You can post at the RfC close request section at AN if you want to hasten the day. Jytdog (talk) 14:10, 30 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

The Learning by teaching article

Hi, Jytdog, how do you know, that somebody posted on the article Talk page? I just wanted to add a secondary source. But, as you know, I'm not allowed.--Jeanpol (talk) 05:48, 1 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you!

Thank you for your message. I'm relatively new to editing and was not familiar with "Talk" pages or "Edit wars". I will proceed as advised. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Foodtraveller (talk • contribs) 14:12, 1 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Great! Thanks. Jytdog (talk) 14:14, 1 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Nomination of Patrick Bet-David for deletion

A discussion is taking place as to whether the article Patrick Bet-David is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia according to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.

The article will be discussed at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Patrick Bet-David until a consensus is reached, and anyone, including you, is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on high-quality evidence and our policies and guidelines.

Users may edit the article during the discussion, including to improve the article to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the article-for-deletion notice from the top of the article.

Thank you for also including my response to the COI thread. I appreciate that

I hope you took the time to read through it. I firmly stand by what I am saying and who I am. Please take into account all of my actions, especially in context. No matter what, I believe you are just trying to do your best for the community, so there is no ill will. Thanks very much x Soulman1125 (talk) 21:33, 2 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

thanks. Jytdog (talk) 21:44, 2 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

About the Braeden Wright article

basta. Jytdog (talk) 15:34, 4 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

Hi jyt,
I think you have done yourself a disservice here. By cutting the article down to something that resembles his Models.com profile - and believe me, if there is ever a chance to turn a redlink into an article, I'll swoop down on it like a seagull on discarded chips in a bin on Manly Beach - you have left no room to start a second WP:AFD highlighting all the unreliable/promotional/primary sources that you removed.
As I would have WP:A7-d the article in its first appearance, it would be wrong for me do to make any WP:ADMIN-ish actions about the article.
Oh crumbs: "Apprehended bias" redirects to something in Canadian administrative law. Guess I should be looking up secondary sources via CanLII ... etc, etc. Pete AU aka --Shirt58 (talk) 09:45, 3 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for your note. If the speedy is declined I will start another AfD. I can't believe anybody !voted keep on the first go-round. Why people want to keep blatant digital marketing in WP is very hard for me to understand. Jytdog (talk) 13:57, 3 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

I'm as keen as you are on searching out spammers and getting rid of them, but do try not to get too hung up on it. Saying it once is sometimes more effective than saying it fifteen times. Deb (talk) 20:28, 3 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Please explain why you are encouraging somebody who edits fraudulently and lies in order to abuse WP for promotion. My question at AfD was real and I am interested in what you might say. Jytdog (talk) 20:48, 3 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

I don't know what question you are referring to. I just feel that the heat needs to be taken out of the situation, otherwise, you know, WP:BOOMERANG. Deb (talk) 07:54, 4 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Of course you don't. I asked you two questions at the one

Following up on this I re-recognize and re-affirm that we have no rights here, just editing privileges granted at the discretion of the "Wikipedia community". That said, in my opinion, some of your speedy deletion requests seem to look like throwing chimpanzee poo at other editors.-

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

Wow

You are not a dog, but I'm a fish, and that's quite the fireworks display, albeit hidden, that you just had here. I'm just dropping by in a friendly way to say that I'm sorry that you got hit by that. --Tryptofish (talk) 16:38, 4 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks. This person or people thought WP is like social media, but it isn't. Through page protections, blacklisting, and revdels this stuff doesn't fly for long, nor stick around. I'm grateful to all the admins who have been responsive.Jytdog (talk) 16:41, 4 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Yeah, someone really needs a hobby. Sorry Jytdog. Drmies (talk) 16:43, 4 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for saying that. I didn't take it personally but I (like, I am sure, most people who saw all that) am dismayed that we live in such dark times, where that kind of hate rolls around. Jytdog (talk) 17:33, 4 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Queen's course

Thanks for the comments and feedback. I have to run out the door and will be offline until tomorrow (most likely). If you have any suggestions, I welcome them at anytime. You can email me or continue to chat via WikiProject Medicine. Talk later. JenOttawa (talk) 18:26, 4 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

OK! Jytdog (talk) 18:28, 4 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Got sucked back to my computer. Thanks again for touching base. The plan is for students to make content suggestions on the talk pages first, hopefully this will help. Do keep in touch with any other thoughts.JenOttawa (talk) 00:19, 5 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Closing/Archiving

Hi, I partially agree with your approach to closing articles but I am concerned it could become a tactic for editors to prematurely shut down debates. I don't believe Wikipedia guidelines https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Closing_discussions#Closing_vs_archiving support closing discussions which are still active. What do you think? Keith Johnston (talk) 08:51, 6 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

The purpose of talk pages, is to work out concrete changes to the article based on reliable sources and the P&G. Please identify the closed discussions at Talk:White privilege where that was happening.

If you want to change the article, please do the work of finding high quality sources, reading them, and providing content proposals summarizing them. Jytdog (talk) 12:53, 6 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks, I take this advise seriously. I have made an attempt following the suggestions you have outlined.Keith Johnston (talk) 13:25, 6 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Close

Please re-open that discussion. Humanengr (talk) 03:47, 7 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

done.Jytdog (talk) 13:33, 7 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Neuralink

I readded the second part of the page that I expanded, it is information on the founders taken directly from the Wait But Why article on Neuralink. The first part was just a clarification of what the company claims to be - do you consider this to be a problem because the description is taken from Neuralink's official website? AntonSamuel (talk) 17:44, 8 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Please discuss content at the article talk page. Please be aware that it is WP:BRD and BRRD. Jytdog (talk)

Response?

Hi, Jytdog. It is a mystery to me, what you think was wrong with my edit, but it is not a perfect world. I'm available to address your concerns. No telepressure ;-) [5] --87.170.195.154 (talk) 17:34, 9 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]