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Edgar J. Anzola moved to draftspace

An article you recently created, Edgar J. Anzola, does not have enough sources and citations as written to remain published. It needs more citations from reliable, independent sources. (?) Information that can't be referenced should be removed (verifiability is of central importance on Wikipedia). I've moved your draft to draftspace (with a prefix of "Draft:" before the article title) where you can incubate the article with minimal disruption. When you feel the article meets Wikipedia's general notability guideline and thus is ready for mainspace, please click on the "Submit your draft for review!" button at the top of the page. CASSIOPEIA^(talk) 06:12, 18 July 2019 (UTC)

Ciudad Universitaria (Metro) moved to draftspace

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August 2019 at Women in Red

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DYK Nomination for Perla Farías

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DYK nomination of Assignment: Venezuela

Hello! Your submission of Assignment: Venezuela at the Did You Know nominations page has been reviewed, and some issues with it may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) underneath your nomination's entry and respond there as soon as possible. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know! Yoninah (talk) 23:05, 31 July 2019 (UTC)

ITN recognition for 2019 Altamira prison riot

On 1 August 2019, In the news was updated with an item that involved the article 2019 Altamira prison riot, which you created. If you know of another recently created or updated article suitable for inclusion in ITN, please suggest it on the candidates page.

Stephen 10:11, 1 August 2019 (UTC)

DYK nomination of Being Impossible & Patricia Ortega

Hello! Your submission of Being Impossible & Patricia Ortega at the Did You Know nominations page has been reviewed, and some issues with it may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) underneath your nomination's entry and respond there as soon as possible. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know! Yoninah (talk) 01:28, 4 August 2019 (UTC)

DYK for Assignment: Venezuela

On 6 August 2019, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Assignment: Venezuela, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that the Creole Petroleum Corporation's 1956 propaganda film Assignment: Venezuela sought to convince American oil workers that the anti-capitalist military dictatorship had embraced the American way of life? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Assignment: Venezuela. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, Assignment: Venezuela), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

— Maile (talk) 00:02, 6 August 2019 (UTC)

Assignment: Venezuela

Hey there. Good job making the article for Assignment: Venezuela. Watched that short when MST3K riffed on it. GamerPro64 00:27, 6 August 2019 (UTC)

Speedy deletion nomination of Draft:Aura Rivas

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A tag has been placed on Draft:Aura Rivas requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section G12 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the page appears to be an unambiguous copyright infringement. This page appears to be a direct copy from http://www.venevision.com/estrella/aura-rivas. For legal reasons, we cannot accept copyrighted text or images taken from other web sites or printed material, and as a consequence, your addition will most likely be deleted. You may use external websites or other printed material as a source of information, but not as a source of sentences. This part is crucial: say it in your own words. Wikipedia takes copyright violations very seriously and persistent violators will be blocked from editing.

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If you think this page should not be deleted for this reason, you may contest the nomination by visiting the page and clicking the button labelled "Contest this speedy deletion". This will give you the opportunity to explain why you believe the page should not be deleted. However, be aware that once a page is tagged for speedy deletion, it may be deleted without delay. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag from the page yourself, but do not hesitate to add information in line with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines. S Philbrick(Talk) 01:01, 10 August 2019 (UTC)

@Sphilbrick: It was a copy of the Spanish wikipedia page es:Aura Rivas, actually, and I checked, wasn't a (complete) direct translation anyway. Oops? Kingsif (talk) 13:36, 10 August 2019 (UTC)

Kingsif, Well it wasn't properly identified, which doesn't mean that it deserves deletion for a technical violation, but I confess I'm confused. It is started for a Spanish article, it's still in Spanish so what sort of translation occurred? . We don't host Spanish articles in EN WP, so what's the goal? If it exists in ES WP, then what is the value of this article? S Philbrick(Talk) 14:20, 10 August 2019 (UTC)

@Sphilbrick: It was in draftspace so I could translate it into English when I had more time and easily move it into mainspace. I meant "direct copy" where I wrote 'direct translation', as I copyvio check most things. Kingsif (talk) 14:24, 10 August 2019 (UTC)

Kingsif, I opened a discussion here: User_talk:Diannaa#Copy_within_issue_with_a_twist. I tried to include a ping, but it may not have worked. S Philbrick(Talk) 14:51, 10 August 2019 (UTC)

Kingsif, Resolved. S Philbrick(Talk) 18:30, 10 August 2019 (UTC)

dayton shooting talk

Sorry, didn't mean to address you as if you're inexperienced; I was stating that more for the rest of the folks in the convo who are quite new! --valereee (talk) 18:08, 10 August 2019 (UTC)

It didn't sound like it, don't worry! Kingsif (talk) 18:20, 10 August 2019 (UTC)

DYK nomination of LGBT cinema in Latin America

Hello! Your submission of LGBT cinema in Latin America at the Did You Know nominations page has been reviewed, and some issues with it may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) underneath your nomination's entry and respond there as soon as possible. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know! Narutolovehinata5 ^tccsdnew 07:51, 11 August 2019 (UTC)

Mohammad Rafiq in connection to Bærum mosque shooting

Hi,

I contested the speedy deletion of Muhammad Rafiq (retired army). What is the main concern here? Multiple sources coverage are not enough to recognize the credibility? The deeds by the person are also commented as heroic in almost all media outlet that covered the story due to the nature of what happened, so it is challenging to be competently 'neutral' in such a piece of writing. Any suggestion is appreciated. Sattar91 (talk) 13:03, 12 August 2019 (UTC)

@Sattar91: Thanks for coming to ask! I think a lot of the issues come from the level of translation/quality of writing: it's not up to WP standard, which can easily obscure meaning, or mean that you've used more powerful language than you originally intended. I could rewrite it into good English and try to improve on it, but I don't feel the biography meets WP notability anyway. Kingsif (talk) 13:59, 12 August 2019 (UTC)

Speedy deletion declined: Muhammad Rafiq (retired army)

Hello Kingsif. I am just letting you know that I declined the speedy deletion of Muhammad Rafiq (retired army), a page you tagged for speedy deletion, because of the following concern: quite possibly WP:BLP1E but also clearly covered extensively in reliable sources, so take it to WP:AFD instead. Thank you. SoWhy 13:06, 12 August 2019 (UTC)

Un célebre especialista

Hello:

I am in the middle of copy editing this as you requested at the GOCE. Would you like to wait until I am finished the copy edit or would you like me to stop?

Twofingered Typist (talk) 20:13, 13 August 2019 (UTC)

@Twofingered Typist: Oh, I didn't know you were. I know you're at GOCE, but I saw no template on the page or message on talk page saying you were going to give it a copyedit. I thought you were passing and saw something you wanted to fix. So each time there's been another edit, I've been surprised... and then gone to correct small mistakes generally about facts that you've obscured. Maybe you can ce without changing facts and stuff? Kingsif (talk) 20:22, 13 August 2019 (UTC)

There is a note on the GOCE Requests page I am working on it. Restoring the spacing of the notes is incorrect, they are not spaced like that. If you say "two otherfilms" you can use "the first" and "the second" - implies it was shown last. The word "directorship" has nothing to do with filmmaking - hence the change.

Ah, yeah I don't watch that, and I know there's long backlogs so, unexpected. Kingsif (talk) 21:51, 13 August 2019 (UTC)

"[V]ariously suggesting different likelihoods" - this is awkward English. Nothing wrong with my suggested edit.

Your last corrections "(don't think Trujillo hired a guy after he was dead, and he's not the only one; made stops around Venezuela before Colombia; "not only... also" set phrasing, and change 'for' to 'as' (for implies truth, as allows for mere appearance) because we know it isn't true even though they published it)" are just wrong. Do you mind me asking if English is your first langauge? Your corrections are making the article worse. Perhaps this is an article another editor should work on since you don't appear to accept any of my edits. Twofingered Typist (talk) 20:45, 13 August 2019 (UTC)

@Twofingered Typist: Since I was born in England, literally have an English degree (and grad cert), and teach people the language, I do mind a little, yes. Do you really think I'd be so ballsy at corrections otherwise? But I don't hold the ask against you, because that's in England, which may be why you think it's awkward, and likely why I think yours is bad - I got the grad cert in the US, and me and professors went over differences a lot. Like, I thought American was different but comprehensible, not realising there are so many places where there are opposing wrongs and rights. And, no, please continue: you are improving it and I have seen and appreciated your work before, a lot of the rephrasings I know are better, I just wouldn't have come up with myself because they're generally constructed differently to how I normally write and think (sucks that WP only likes American style); FYI I'd written out that last set of edits before I read your message, but hit submit afterwards because of a rl discussion.

(My view on the edits you mention: removing the spacing shoved all the text together, making it hard to understand since there are two languages used. In peer review, the spacing was complimented as easing readability. With the two films, it is talking about the two French ones, but there were four overall - the 'first' French film was shown first, the 'other' French one was shown fourth, not second, which is what your edit implied. Direction implies, like, artistic direction, which obviously isn't what the section is about - other words welcome. About 'likelikhood' edit: you put "likelihood or not", which is wrong, I'm pretty sure on this one no matter location, because there's always a likelihood - something can be "likely or not", but you can't qualify likelihood because it's a noun, not an adverb - "likelihood or unlikelihood" would be correct)

Perhaps we can discuss more the changes so you can assure me what I think is a mistake isn't actually wrong - this might aid my own editing, too! Kingsif (talk) 21:00, 13 August 2019 (UTC)

My apologies for asking if English is your first language, it's just that some of the phrasing is not any version of English - British, American, Indian or Canadian - in my opinion. I will go back through the article again and leave detailed notes for each correction. You can then do with the as you will. As the article stands now, it would not pas FAC. Twofingered Typist (talk) 22:07, 13 August 2019 (UTC)

What do I say to that? Glad you weren't my thesis examiner? (haha!) Maybe formal British English could be something you're unfamiliar with, then? Though I personally also have the annoying habit of using the passive voice for everything, it's how I think and thus write. Haha, I know it would not, don't worry about that. Any improvements - (as said, apologies for before, genuinely thought it was a drive-by and as primary author I should try maintain it) - would be super appreciated, thanks. Kingsif (talk) 22:13, 13 August 2019 (UTC)

DYK nomination of Perla Farías

Hello! Your submission of Perla Farías at the Did You Know nominations page has been reviewed, and some issues with it may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) underneath your nomination's entry and respond there as soon as possible. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know! Yoninah (talk) 00:36, 14 August 2019 (UTC)

Un célebre especialista...

Hello:

I've now completed the c/e of Un célebre especialista.... I have a couple of observations if I may. Despite the fact a GA reviewer liked how the Notes were set up, I doubt this will fly at an FA review. I suggest you format them as I did and if you are concerned about readability put "Review text" and "English" in bold type.

I have reinstated "Director" instead of "Directorship". I checked many online dictionaries and can find no use of "directorship" except as it relates to the running of a corporation. Perhaps a better heading would be "Production"?

In the "Modern Critical Views" section you quote Farrell suggesting the film led to many more being produced. Then this sentence: "However, Michael Chanan suggests that Venezuela was typical of Latin American nations, many of which did not follow early films with continued production." This apparently contradicts Farrell. Does Chanan mean films for entertainment rather than propaganda? Then this sentence- "Chanan also uses a case study to show that some early documentaries were missing for many decades, which suggests there may be a rich trove of hidden historical films."-where he is contradicting himself. I think adding "of films for entertainment" to the "Chanan suggests" sentence might make this clearer.

Best of luck going forward with the FAR.

Twofingered Typist (talk) 12:55, 14 August 2019 (UTC)

Thank you! Kingsif (talk) 12:57, 14 August 2019 (UTC)

Storming open doors

Hi, I posted some arguments for RM/BMS article merger on the RM TP, not being aware, until now, of the Deletion Discussion Page, fool that I am. I see most of my arguments covered in that discussion, but I'll leave the post on the TP for now. Just thought I'd save you the trouble of taking on my further education ... Have a nice day. T 85.166.160.249 (talk) 20:24, 14 August 2019 (UTC)

Thanks for the message :) Kingsif (talk) 20:25, 14 August 2019 (UTC)

Hi, re my BOLD edit on VQ: my edit is probably more in line with the facts than other versions offered. You'll find his story in the WIKI article, of course; and that should have plenty of sources. However, the point itself is minor, so no worries. All the best. T 85.166.160.249 (talk) 11:09, 15 August 2019 (UTC)

Aaand - only seconds later - the fool is back ... There's actually a separate article on the word "quisling" used derogatively (en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quisling), giving this tale of origin: "... who headed a domestic Nazi collaborationist regime during World War II". I find that precise, succinct, NPOV, and avoiding all the slightly agitprop terms of my BOLD. Work already done for editors, what's not to like. I'll leave it at that. Even more of the best. T 85.166.160.249 (talk) 11:15, 15 August 2019 (UTC)

Hey T, no keep coming, your input is valued! I don't know that corner of Nazi history, I only think that "puppet" needs a source, as much as it's likely the best term. Any version that you deem accurate and not using controversial terminology should be good. Kingsif (talk) 12:54, 15 August 2019 (UTC)

Thank you for those kind words, sir (or ... "zir", just in case, these days). I shall then proceed to speak of VQ in Wikipedias voice. Be warned, I'll also move the word "online" to the beginning of the sentence, to make it state that the BMS Baddie did things online, and not that VQ collaborated with the Nazis online. Nuances, nuances. I hope this meets with approval; in any case, pls check. Best of the best to you. T 85.166.160.249 (talk) 21:22, 15 August 2019 (UTC)