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Needs coverage of those with allergies

Article needs expansion to cover the problems/conflict this creates with those who have allergies. Allergies/asthma can constitute a disability, and are quite common. 66.212.65.6 (talk) 00:54, 28 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Currently ADA regulations[1] do not consider allergies to pet dander be grounds for denial of access, but do mandate that the allergic person should likewise be accommodated by given them a place away from the animal. E.g. with college dorm roommates where housing is assigned, if one person has an ESA and other an allergy, they should not be placed in the same room, and college could get in trouble if they did so.Legitimus (talk) 19:24, 29 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]

ADA regulations are not applicable to this article. Emotional support animals are not covered under ADA law. Begone with your flim flam, Jack!

Proposed merge from Emotional support cat

I don't see why this should be separate from the main article - is there something special about cats as apart from other support animals? ... discospinster talk 01:41, 10 August 2017 (UTC) ... discospinster talk 01:41, 10 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

No reason at all; let's merge. Happy days, LindsayHello 12:36, 26 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Other countries

Do emotional support animals exist in countries other than the United States? ParticipantObserver (talk) 16:35, 17 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Service Animal Vs. Emotional Support Animal

This article seems to fail to hilight that the mere fact that the disability is a mental illness doesn't mean that the animial is an ESA vs. a Service Animal. Rather, it needs to be reinforced that if the animal is trained to do something other than exist that mitigates a mental illness, then the animal is a service animal under ADA. 67.78.69.82 (talk) 00:38, 11 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Different animals

I added "According to emotional pet support[1], the different types of ESA (emotional support animals) that can qualify are: rats, rabbits, small pigs, birds, dogs, cats, ferrets, etc. These animals can be of any age. "

References

  1. ^ https://www.emotionalpetsupport.com/2017/02/type-animals-can-esas/. {{cite web}}: Missing or empty |title= (help)

But I believe it was removed? What was wrong with it or how can I improve that statement?

When there is no restriction within the definition, a list of possible animals could effectively list all animal species. But even if the consensus view is that a list of some sort is helpful, you should support it with a reliable source. Arllaw (talk) 21:02, 23 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Stephanieannb5 (talk) 08:56, 23 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Delta

The name of Delta Air Lines has a space within it - see both https://www.delta.com/ and Delta Air Lines, or https://news.delta.com/corporate-stats-and-facts, or even https://www.bloomberg.com/quote/DAL:US

In any event, names are capitalised, and "Delta airlines" is definitely not correct.

Mauls (talk) 15:03, 5 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

new edits

Replaced, In some US states, providing a letter, registry, or certificate to a person who is not disabled is a crime with, In some US states, providing a letter, registry, or certificate to a person who is not disabled is a crime. As of 2016, there were only 18 states that make it a misdemeanor to make false claims stating that your animal is an assistance animal or to say that you are a handler training an assistance animal, from...https://heinonline-org.libproxy.unm.edu/HOL/Page?collection=journals&handle=hein.journals/jael8&id=94&men_tab=srchresults Mmontana61 (talk) 20:17, 3 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Replaced, In the US, disabled people with emotional support animals are exempted from certain rules against having animals in most housing and travel situations. To be afforded protection under United States federal law, the owners of emotional support animals must meet the federal definition of disability and must have a letter from their healthcare providers stating that they are being treated for a disabling condition and that their emotional support animals improve or benefit some component of the disability. (citation needed) with, In the U.S., people with emotional/mental disabilities can be exempted from certain federal housing and travel rules if they own an emotional support animal. To receive that exemption, they must meet the federal definition of disabled and they must present a letter from a certified healthcare provider, stating that the animal provides significant benefits to the person and their emotional health. https://esadoctors.com/esa-laws/. Providing clarity and citation. Mmontana61 (talk) 20:20, 3 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

replacing photo

Replaced black and white photo of a person with a mental disorder, to one of a little girl w/ESA, to better reflect the current caption. https://www.pexels.com/photo/black-dog-beside-little-girl-1364756/ This photo is free use. Mmontana61 (talk) 20:25, 3 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Moving a sentence to a more appropriate section

Moving this section, While an airline is allowed to require a passenger traveling with an emotional support animal to provide written documentation that the animal is an emotional support animal, the same is not true for a service animal.[36][37], to Required documentation for airlines. Mmontana61 (talk) 20:34, 3 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Added to Fair Housing Act Amendments

Added new information to the Fair Housing section...It is important to note, that though in most cases, landlords do grant ESA's the same reasonable housing accommodations as a service animal, there have been instances where they do not. There are some court cases, such as, In re Kenna (https://caselaw.findlaw.com/wv-supreme-court-of-appeals/1357837.html), where the court has said it is not a violation of Fair Housing rules for a landlord to require an assistance animal to have some form of training.  https://heinonline-org.libproxy.unm.edu/HOL/Page?collection=journals&handle=hein.journals/jael8&id=94&men_tab=srchresults Mmontana61 (talk) 20:45, 3 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

added new sub heading

Added ESA's in the Workplace. Mmontana61 (talk) 20:59, 3 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Added photos

Added photo of college girl studying with her ESA cat next to her. [1] Mmontana61 (talk) 21:33, 3 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Added photo to show an example of different types of emotional support animals.[2] https://www.shutterstock.com/image-photo/english-bulldog-puppy-2-months-old-113944555?src=Bx-h6O6zrOetzjJTxXZwlA-1-64 Mmontana61 (talk) 21:44, 3 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Added photo of dog in the workplace.[3] Mmontana61 (talk) 21:50, 3 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

added some new information on laws

I added a list of the states that have laws about misrepresenting service/assistance animals.[1] Mmontana61 (talk) 22:20, 3 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Merger proposal

I propose merging Emotional Support Animal Letter into Emotional support animal, specifically with a link to Emotional support animal#ESA letters. As a stand-alone article the Emotional Support Animal Letter article seems unlikely to ever develop beyond a stub. Arllaw (talk) 16:03, 17 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Issues with Recent Changes

In relation to recent changes to the article, please keep in mind that this article is about emotional support animals, not service animals in general. The place to add content about service animals other than emotional support animals is the service animals article.

Editors should not delete content from Wikipedia based upon a personal belief that it the content, otherwise supported by a reliable source, is incorrect. See Wikipedia:No original research. If the reference provided for the claim is a reliable source, editors should not attempt to independently assess whether or not there is a flaw in the source or its study design. If you can find additional reliable sources that question the referenced sources, you can add those new sources and their findings to the article to document the problems with the prior source and its conclusions.

Significant deletions from an article that are poorly explained or unexplained are likely to be reversed, and we need to be careful with deletions that may cause an article to become biased in one direction or another. See WP:NPOV. Arllaw (talk) 17:31, 20 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

A link to the front page of the HABRI website does not constitute a reliable source. There may be content elsewhere on the site that constitutes a reliable source, or perhaps that identifies other sources that are reliable and could be used in the article, but the front page is not an informational page. Arllaw (talk) 17:50, 20 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]
When making changes to the lead of the article, please keep in mind the purpose of and appropriate content for an article lead. Wikipedia:Manual of Style/Lead section. Thanks. Arllaw (talk) 18:00, 20 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Significant Issues With This Page

The information on this page is inaccurate and does not comport with federal law. I have been adding legal statutes as well as HUD and DOJ guidance memos which clearly state the legal requirements. [1]

Many of the academic articles (the ones written by attorneys) were written before major changes in the law that occurred on April 25, 2013. The study cited by the therapist is not a reliable source. He sits on the committee that publishes the journal, cites to his own work, and uses the incorrect legal standard that confuses the legal standard with standards applicable to diagnosing a patient and prescribing medicine.

Please use the applicable legal sources and I won't have to keep correcting the inaccuracies on this page. AbbyNormal17 (talk) 18:07, 20 October 2019 (UTC)AbbyNormal17[reply]

There is already an open discussion for the changes. We do not need two.
You have been adding general information about service animals. This article is about emotional support animals. General information belongs in the article that is specifically about service animals. Further, the lead is not a place for such an exposition.
You have been making unexplained deletions based upon your personal disagreement with the subject matter. You have not been providing reliable sources that support your positions, nor have you provided a valid basis for your deletions.
It is not up to you to decide whether or not a claim supported by a reliable source is appropriate, and your personal analysis is not a basis to delete content from an article. As was explained above, you should look for reliable sources that contest the position, then document the disagreement with those reliable sources.
Please make sure that your edits comport with Wikipedia's policies. Arllaw (talk) 18:56, 20 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Please review Wikipedia:Manual of Style/Lead section. Please stop adding off-topic information to the lead. Also, please keep in mind that the lead is a place for basic facts. Further details and examples can be placed within the body of an article. Arllaw (talk) 19:08, 20 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

I am adding the legal requirements for assistance animals, of which emotional support animals are but one type. If a cat can detect seizures and alert his owner to them, that is an assistance animal, not an emotional support animal and not a service animal because it is not trained nor is it a dog. Please read the 2013 HUD memo. [1] The concept that an emotional support animal is but one type of assistance animal allowed under the Fair Housing Act is a significant area of confusion that I am attempting to untangle. AbbyNormal17 (talk) 20:54, 20 October 2019 (UTC)AbbyNormal17[reply]