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Cookie Kwan
In the episode 'Marge Gamer' at about two minutes or so in, Marge googles her own name, and visible on the screen is a reference to '"Cookie" Kwan' [sic]. This implies that Cookie is not her real name. Worth noting, or not? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.175.39.131 (talk) 19:10, 7 October 2011 (UTC)
Üter
Is he from Germany or Switzerland? The article condradicts himself on this. --84.177.254.159 (talk) 21:17, 11 April 2012 (UTC)
I see no mention of Uter's having been the first child eaten in the Halloween episode, "Nightmare Cafeteria". — Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.177.33.164 (talk) 15:17, 21 July 2013 (UTC)
Blinky-type three-eyed fish found near nuclear plant
a three-eyed fish was found near a nuclear plant for real in 2011. (according to german hackers felix von leitner and frank rieger)[1] --79.199.207.165 (talk) 21:27, 2 January 2012 (UTC). This Huffington Post article may be a more credible source. --79.199.207.165 (talk) 21:34, 2 January 2012 (UTC)
McBain
I don't get the following thing: since the Simpsons used the name "McBain" first, even if "only" for a minor supporting character, how can the McBain movie people forbid them from continuing to use it...? The Simpsons had it first, right?! BigSteve (talk) 13:13, 30 November 2012 (UTC)
- Do we have a reliable source for this even being the case? The article just link to IMDb trivia, which is not reliable. If it is true, then my guess is that Fox never copyrighted the name McBain, the film's producers did, ergo The Simpsons get screwed over despite having the name orignally. Gran2 10:30, 1 December 2012 (UTC)
- ...Sounds like a likely explanation. BigSteve (talk) 09:47, 2 December 2012 (UTC)
- Makes sense. CTF83! 04:21, 5 December 2012 (UTC)
- ...Sounds like a likely explanation. BigSteve (talk) 09:47, 2 December 2012 (UTC)
- Nope. Precedence precedes registration in copyright, and you can't copyright a name anyway. Also: The Simpsons, including the McBain segments, is formally copyrighted. You're thinking of trademark, and I'm fairly certain the movie company couldn't have used that to prevent The Simpsons from continuing to call an established character "McBain", given the prominent documentation of their precedent. Example: a company can't trademark "David Copperfield" and prevent anyone else from ever publishing the Dickens novel unless they change the name of the main character. But I'm not a lawyer. Laodah 22:23, 7 March 2017 (UTC)
Frank Grimes
no mention of frank grimes AKA grimy? or his son? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 122.109.106.75 (talk) 08:24, 24 May 2015 (UTC)
- Someone needs to add this. —DangerousJXD (talk) 08:52, 24 May 2015 (UTC)
- I added Frank Grimes. It needs expansion. —DangerousJXD (talk) 08:59, 24 May 2015 (UTC)
- Since he only appeared once, he belongs here only. —DangerousJXD (talk) 07:43, 25 May 2015 (UTC)
- I added Frank Grimes. It needs expansion. —DangerousJXD (talk) 08:59, 24 May 2015 (UTC)
Rabbi Krustofski
Can somebody kindly rewrite the biography of this character? The current version is so horribly written and full of broken English, it is illegible.
Bomb319 (talk) 11:55, 20 February 2016 (UTC)
Steve Mobbs sentence
"Steve Mobbs' death is a reference to when Steve Jobs died." I'll just let that statement stink for itself. 98.194.39.86 (talk) 01:40, 9 December 2016 (UTC)
Attribution
Copied content (reference) from Duffman to Oh Yeah (Yello song); see that page's history for attribution 7&6=thirteen (☎) 13:23, 3 January 2017 (UTC)
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Frank Grimes 2
Am I the only one who thinks Frank Grimes should have his own page? He is a very notable, prominent, and iconic character who is essential to the Simpsons in many ways, not to mention how often he is associated in the Simpsons merchandise. --Anotymous (talk) 07:56, 27 March 2018 (UTC)
He is popular with fans. But he only appears as the main character in the episode in which he debuted. After that, he is only mentioned a few times. Other more important characters like Martin Prince or Sideshow Mel do not have their own page, so a minor character should not have it. --BrookTheHumming (talk) 12:26, 8 May 2018 (UTC)
Add sections
To make navigation easier, should we create sections to divide the characters? In sections such as "Adults", "Kids", "Animals", and "Fictional characters" (the latter to add Fallout Boy, Happy Little Elves, Poochie, and Radioactive Man somewhere). --BrookTheHumming (talk) 12:53, 8 May 2018 (UTC)
The only problem would be C.H.U.M., who is none of the four things. Maybe the best place for him would be in the "Kids" section. --BrookTheHumming (talk) 13:04, 8 May 2018 (UTC)
Although we can also make a section called "Other characters", with CHUM and God (and in that same section put the subsection of "Fictional characters"). --BrookTheHumming (talk) 13:09, 8 May 2018 (UTC)
Arnie Pye
Isn't there a running joke, namely that the news station refers to the man's helicopter-based segments as "Arnie in the Sky" -- as if they're clueless enough to overlook the obvious "Pye in the Sky"? Or was that used only once? WHPratt (talk) 14:47, 14 June 2018 (UTC)
- @WHPratt: You have any reliable source for that? Regards SoWhy 14:54, 14 June 2018 (UTC)
- No. It was just a suggestion for further research. WHPratt (talk) 19:47, 14 June 2018 (UTC)
Jimbo, Dolph, and Kearney Age Information
Is someone able to confirm the ages of Jimbo Jones, Dolph Starbeam, and Kearney Zzyzwicz? Their current information imply that they are 18, 17, and 19 years old respectively. While it does sound plausible, the problem is that it is debatable how they are. Their respective articles on the Simpsons Wiki on Wikia/FANDOM imply that they are 16, 14, and 29 years old respectively. Kearney's age information is the most debatable, as his age information on Wikisimpsons implies that he is 23 years old. ― C.Syde (talk | contribs) 07:52, 31 March 2019 (UTC)
Why does searching stampy bring me here
Almost everybody who says Stampy refers to Joseph Garrett, a YouTuber who’s known under the name stampy. I think that the redirect Stampy should go for Joseph Garrett, not List of recurring the Simpsons characters. Metric Supporter 89 (talk) 21:00, 29 June 2019 (UTC)
- The article says that he is known as stampylonghead with Stampy Cat the name of one of his characters. By searching "Stampy" in the search engine, the top results points to Joseph and not the elephant. The two bolded names are redirects to the YouTuber who appears to be more popular than the fictional elephant. Iggy (Swan) (What I've been doing to maintain Wikipedia) 22:56, 25 November 2019 (UTC)
Encyclopedic value?
I love the Simpsons as much as the next guy, but I'm not sure this article has encyclopedic value. It would be much more at home in a fan website. Also I think it's too detailed to be useful, but that's beside the point. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Kot8 (talk • contribs) 19:13, 11 July 2019 (UTC)
- I agree, Kot8, I don't think it has encyclopedic value.--Jack Upland (talk) 09:34, 23 November 2019 (UTC)
Proposed merge with Snake Jailbird
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- Merged by Iggy on 11 December 2019.
He is certainly a recurring character but is not as notable as articles such as Mr. Burns or Bart Simpson. He does not have many main roles in most of the episodes he appears in.
In recent times, Hans Moleman was redirected into the article and Otto Mann is currently in discussion as both do not feature as much as the Simpson family members. Iggy (Swan) (What I've been doing to maintain Wikipedia) 22:16, 17 November 2019 (UTC)
- Merge — not a major character, his article has no value to an encyclopedia.--Jack Upland (talk) 19:18, 18 November 2019 (UTC)
- I see the discussion has not been expanding for the last couple of weeks, shall this now be merged? Iggy (Swan) (What I've been doing to maintain Wikipedia) 14:57, 10 December 2019 (UTC)
- Yes, according to the rules, after a week, if it's unanimous, anyone can do the merge.--Jack Upland (talk) 19:15, 10 December 2019 (UTC)
- I see the discussion has not been expanding for the last couple of weeks, shall this now be merged? Iggy (Swan) (What I've been doing to maintain Wikipedia) 14:57, 10 December 2019 (UTC)
- Merge. Not seeing anything to warrant keeping this as a stand-alone article. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 05:46, 11 December 2019 (UTC)
Proposed merge of Dr. Nick
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- Closed as Merge--Jack Upland (talk) 22:24, 25 November 2019 (UTC)
As discussed at a recent AfD, Dr. Nick is a minor character who doesn't need his own article. I propose it be merged here.--Jack Upland (talk) 19:16, 18 November 2019 (UTC)
- Merge - Dr. Hibbert has more of a main role in the series than Dr Nick. Dr Hibbert is regularly seen with the Simpson family and others while Nick usually has part-time roles in episodes he appears in. He does have a major role in the second half of Homer's Triple Bypass where he saved Homer Simpson with the life changing operation. Iggy (Swan) (What I've been doing to maintain Wikipedia) 19:27, 18 November 2019 (UTC)
Proposed merge of Dr. Hibbert
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- Merged by 96.232.112.252 on 26 December 2019
I propose that Dr. Hibbert be merged here. There is no reason for him to have his own article. He can adequately be documented here.--Jack Upland (talk) 09:40, 23 November 2019 (UTC)
- Seems large to merge. He has a very important job in the hospital in keeping everyone well but some of the content is currently unsourced. Might as well merge it if the added unsourced content may well be original research, particulary if it came from a fandom Wiki. Iggy (Swan) (What I've been doing to maintain Wikipedia) 22:56, 25 November 2019 (UTC)
- Merge. Not seeing anything to warrant keeping this as a stand-alone article. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 05:46, 11 December 2019 (UTC)
Proposed merge from "Lenny and Carl"
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Another minor recurring characters about which nothing can be said except WP:PLOT summary. Ping editors who commented on merges here recently (User:Iggy the Swan, User:Jack Upland. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 05:49, 11 December 2019 (UTC)
- Merge as per nom.--Jack Upland (talk) 08:32, 11 December 2019 (UTC)
- Merge too much unsourced content.-TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 14:43, 11 December 2019 (UTC)
- Merge per my reasoning in the second sentence for Dr Hibbert above. Iggy (Swan) (Contribs) 17:42, 20 December 2019 (UTC)
- Merge as per nom. A-NEUN ⦾TALK⦾ 21:28, 29 December 2019 (UTC)
- Merger complete. Done by interested party. GenQuest "Talk to Me" 18:44, 17 January 2020 (UTC)
Merger proposal of Edna Krabappel to here
A formal request has been received to merge: Edna Krabappel into List of recurring The Simpsons characters; dated: January 2020. Proposer's Rationale: She is not a series regular, just a recurring character like Dr. Hibbert and Lenny and Carl, which were recently merged too. User:96.232.112.252. Discuss here. GenQuest "Talk to Me" 20:07, 15 January 2020 (UTC)
- Merge: per nom.--Jack Upland (talk) 22:05, 17 January 2020 (UTC)
- Keep there is enough real world information about the character to keep the article as is. Rhino131 (talk) 16:29, 20 January 2020 (UTC)
- Keep per above. 83.70.54.143 (talk) 17:16, 22 January 2020 (UTC)
Snake not having his own page anymore
Fine, Snake is not that major of a character to have his own page. So why do Troy McClure and Lionel Hutz have their own pages? Yes they were both voiced by the late famous Phil Hartman but regardless of that neither of them have appeared in over 20 years and they're not that iconic. And then there's Mona Simpson, again, nowhere near being an iconic character; she may be the mother of the main character but that doesn't mean she is a main character herself, so why does she have her own page? --Anotymous (talk) 06:50, 19 January 2020 (UTC)
- I agree. All those should be merged here.--Jack Upland (talk) 07:45, 19 January 2020 (UTC)
Ok so should we make a start on it? Any admins or whoever got any objections to the three characters I listed above being moved to the recurring characters page?--Anotymous (talk) 08:21, 20 January 2020 (UTC)
- See WP:MERGE. You need to follow the same procedure as those above. If there are no objections after a week or so, you can complete the merge.--Jack Upland (talk) 08:25, 20 January 2020 (UTC)
I would caution you against doing this. Having an article is not about the character's importance within the show, but whether there is enough real world information about the character from outside sources to justify an article. You will notice Mona Simpsons is a GA and Try McClure is a FA; that alone should tell you there is no need to merge the articles. Let's just leave the articles we have as is. Rhino131 (talk) 16:34, 20 January 2020 (UTC)
- According to WP:N, having independent reliable sources does not mean a topic has to have a standalone article. In the case of those articles most of the sources are Simpsons episodes or DVD commentaries. They are not independent at all.Jack Upland (talk) 04:21, 21 January 2020 (UTC)
- If that was an issue it would have been brought up during the GA and FA review. Troy McClure has even been featured on the main page. There actually used to be probably 12-15 more characters with articles, and over the years they have been whittled down to what we have now (which has made this recurring page quite lengthy). It seems to me there is no need to merge entire articles into this page. I would be opposed to any further merges. Rhino131 (talk) 13:53, 21 January 2020 (UTC)
So Rhino131 if what you're saying is true does that mean all the characters who were recently merged to the recurring pages (Snake, Dr. Nick, Dr. Hibbert, Cletus, Lenny & Carl, Otto) don't have enough real world information from outside sources to each have their own articles? Surely most to all of them do?--Anotymous (talk) 08:00, 22 January 2020 (UTC)
- I don't know for sure, but The Simpsons probably has had more written about it than any other TV show, so who knows what information is out there. Let's just not get into the subjective game of character importance and merging existing articles because other characters don't have one. Rhino131 (talk) 15:42, 22 January 2020 (UTC)
Yeah I know, I'm going along with what you're saying, I'm talking about the characters that were recently merged and if we should revert them back to having their own articles?--Anotymous (talk) 03:03, 23 January 2020 (UTC)
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