Talk:Kobe Bryant

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Former good article nomineeKobe Bryant was a good articles nominee, but did not meet the good article criteria at the time. There may be suggestions below for improving the article. Once these issues have been addressed, the article can be renominated. Editors may also seek a reassessment of the decision if they believe there was a mistake.
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"maintain" v. "belief"

Hello, I'm merely pondering as to why "maintain" is the word used in the lead when describing Bryant's response to the sexual assault allegation. Reading his apology it seems like "belief" might be a better word. Because in the way I read and understand his statement, he apologizes and accepts that she sees in differently than he does.

He wrote, "Although I truly believe this encounter between us was consensual, I recognize now that she did not and does not view this incident the same way I did".

My opinion is that the sentence in the lead should say be:

  • "Bryant issuing a public apology and admitting to a sexual encounter he believed to be consensual"

Which is separate from what it is now which is:

  • "Bryant issuing a public apology and admitting to a sexual encounter he maintained was consensual".

I'm saying this because from my understanding of my statement, he accepts her version of the events saying despite his belief that it was consensual he recognizes she did not. The One I Left (talk) 14:06, 11 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

My concern is that "he believed to be consensual" can be misinterpreted to mean that after his apology, he no longer believed it to be consensual. However, that would be inaccurate. Essentially, it seems he said "we agree to disagree" or what some might call a non-apology apology. —Bagumba (talk) 14:24, 11 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
I guess the "apology" is vague enough, but in writing the apology it seems as a though he changes his stance. The phrase, "I recognize now" signals to me despite his belief that it was consensual, he recognizes what he hadn't before.The One I Left (talk) 15:13, 11 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
The present tense use of "I truly believe" in his apology is most telling of his mindset. He still held the belief that it was consensual despite acknowledging the accuser felt differently. CalDoesIt (talk) 15:44, 11 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
His statement is such a high wire act. I feel as though he confirms her view and admits guilt by apologizing. Bryant says, "I want to apologize to her for my behavior that night", If he believes it was consensual, why apologize for his behavior? The One I Left (talk) 16:22, 11 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Semi-protected edit request on 2 February 2024

kaori reynolds was his niece keysha reynolds daughter. 12.91.138.226 (talk) 18:48, 2 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

 Not done Not clear what change you want made. I searched "keysha" and nothing came up. We don't include non-notable distant relatives in articles. ~WikiOriginal-9~ (talk) 18:56, 2 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Move discussion in progress

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Bryant page main photo

Although the “Kobe Bryant 2014” file has been the longstanding picture for this page, the “Kobe Bryant 2015” file is a better fit for that specific photo because it captures his face-to-face profile as Bryant is facing the camera and it is also a more recent picture. MhcL947 (talk) 21:24, 3 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I think the current shot from 2014 of him playing meets MOS:LEADIMAGE:

Lead images should be natural and appropriate representations of the topic

It's preferable and to show a basketball player playing basketball in a "natural" shot with the ball and his facial features visible. Giving precedence to a "more recent photo" only applies to living people. For someone who's dead, we want the best representative shot of their life, which is not necessarily tied to the image's date.—Bagumba (talk) 05:25, 4 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]