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The Trial of the Incredible Hulk

For background, see this edit, et seq. The claim made is that no mention of Lee's appearance in The Trial of the Incredible Hulk should be made (I think) because it wasn't produced by Marvel Studios. Of course, there's no reason that's actually a criterion for inclusion, and if it were, that would exclude all of the Spider-Man, X-Men, and Fantastic Four movies as well. So what I'm asking is, what Wikipedia policy states that everything mentioned in Stan Lee's article has to be directly related to Marvel Studios productions?

I won't be online until later next week, but I wanted to get a discussion started before I take off. Evanh2008 (talk|contribs) 00:01, 28 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Lee Parodies/References

A Stan Lee functionary appears in an episode of Doug as an editor Doug wished to show his work to, who gave him some highly complimentary input on his "Quailman" character.

In an episode of Freakazoid Freak offers Fanboy an autographed photo of Lee to leave him alone. Fanboy doesn't know who Lee is. Neither does Freakazoid. --The_Iconoclast (talk) 11:17, 17 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Actor?

Since this hasn't been discussed here or in the archive that I can find, I'd like to get one going on whether to use the designation "actor" in the lead and infobox. His cameos wouldn't seem to be professional acting any more than Alfred Hitchcock's or the many other directors who have taken a walk-on role or a cameo in their films, nor would playing himself, as he has done in a couple of movies, seem to count, any more than any other celebrity playing him- or herself, such as Marshall McLuhan or Hugh Hefner.--Tenebrae (talk) 17:57, 8 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I support removing "actor" for the reasons you discuss. I also support removing "comedian" and "voice actor" on those grounds as well. Gamaliel (talk) 18:01, 8 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]
His roles certainly qualify him as an actor and voiceover artist. I am unaware of any evidence, however, that he has done any comedy work. I removed "comedian", but if someone can point out where he has done comedy work, I'll restore it. Nightscream (talk) 20:28, 8 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Cameos in your own franchise qualifies you as an actor? I thought acting took study and/or profession? 130.243.215.220 (talk) 14:23, 15 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Nope. "An actor (alternatively actress for a female; see terminology) is a person portraying a character in a dramatic or comic production; she or he performs in: film, television, theatre, or radio.[1] " Acting clearly takes neither skill, education or profession. Glad to have sorted that out myself. To call yourself an actor has no skill, educational or professional requirements, you just have to appear in a role on a media. To empathise for future reference, NO SKILL, NO EDUCATION, NO PROFESSION. Sorted :) 130.243.215.220 (talk) 14:26, 15 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, those same rules apply for being a singer as well, in fact most jobs. Take this one for example - most Wikipedians are not experts in the subjects of the articles they edit. Despite that, a lot of "posturing" goes on around here. Wikipedia is entirely an amateur enterprise. Its quality (or lack thereof) is reflected by that. Personally I don't rate Stan as an actor, but an excellent writer and obviously an astute businessman. I would support removing "actor" as per the Hitchcock comment above, otherwise we should add that Hitchcock was an actor also. As Stan would say "'Nuff said"! Jodon | Talk 11:03, 16 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

His role in "Mallrats" would definitely be considered comedic, and his role was much more than a cameo. Does that count? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.217.176.7 (talk) 01:40, 12 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Notable works

The X-Men are definitely more notable than Daredevil or even Thor. Please list X-Men down in the Notable Works section of the Infobox. 220.229.99.5 (talk) 01:39, 28 November 2013 (UTC) 220.229.99.5 (talk) 01:39, 28 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Done. I was waiting for someone who knows the topic to decide on this, but expert came there none, so I've done it. Hope that's OK. --Stfg (talk) 14:16, 30 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

he is awsome — Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.165.143.106 (talk) 20:31, 16 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Semi-protected edit request on 27 December 2013

For the Stan Lee page. Under FILMOGRAPHY, under FILMS, at Thor: The Dark World, for his role... please replace "Mental-war" with "Mental-ward". (The "d" was left off.) 67.253.170.63 (talk) 14:25, 27 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]

 Done Epicgenius (talk) 14:33, 27 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Video Games

The Video Games section should mention Verticus, which was narrated and substantially designed by Stan Lee. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 96.41.120.216 (talk) 21:40, 31 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]

American-Jewish writers.

He is put on that category. But with that phrase of him stating that he doesn't really know if there is a God. I would think that he would qualify a a agnostic that was just raised as a Jew. Thoughts? Jhenderson 777 17:23, 1 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

I'm pretty sure the guidelines state that unless he self-identifies as someone whose focus as a writer is Jewish-American themes, or if his Judaism is an integral part of his identity, then we include his religious affiliation. Unless those things are pertinent, we don't. --Tenebrae (talk) 00:18, 2 January 2014 (UTC
Just checking. One being a Jew can be debatable but when one doesn't know if he believes a deity then I wouldn't think that is one. But of course I don't put my own opinions on Wikipedia. That's why I am discussing it. lol Jhenderson 777 01:04, 2 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Jews are an ethnic group, you can be a 'Jew' and be an atheist/agnostic/etc. ― Padenton|✉   17:22, 3 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Lee introduced Amazing Spider-Man 2 battle Clip, New Years 2014

I believe [this should added to his other "work". It's an interesting tidbit to add. Npabebangin (talk) 02:05, 23 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Semi-protected edit request on 28 January 2014

you guys forgot to credit him in mallrats as himself in 1994 he has a discussion with brody about the heroes he created and why he relates to each character 24.60.96.164 (talk) 17:47, 28 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Its listed in the filmography table Kap 7 (talk) 18:46, 28 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Semi-protected edit request on 19 March 2014

add marvel comics template 199.79.168.163 (talk) 05:01, 19 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Done Sam Sailor Sing 09:51, 19 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

"A spectator"

In the 1988 interview which I recently cited in this article, Stan comments at some length on how wonderful he finds the current comics scene, and finishes: "I might add I hate to think that things are going so well with very little help from me, but there's nothing much I can do about that. [laughs] I really miss it. I used to feel I was so much a part of it, now I feel a little bit like a spectator, but I think things are moving along beautifully!"

I think this is a good terse summation of Stan's perspective on his later career. But as I looked into adding it in, I started arguing with myself over where would be the appropriate place to put it. "Towards the beginning of the first paragraph of 'Later career'? (But wouldn't that be overemphasizing its significance?) At the end of that same paragraph? (But wouldn't that make seem like an afterthought, something extraneous?) How about in a quote box off to the side, not in the body of the text at all? (But isn't that just flashy and unnecessary?)" And then there's the matter of introducing the context, since it's not obvious from the quote itself that Stan is talking about the comics scene in its entirety. In the end I've found myself doubting that the quote should be added at all. Thoughts?--NukeofEarl (talk) 14:40, 3 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Semi-protected edit request on 1 May 2014

Requesting a simple improvement update to one line. The line is poorly worded, missing key details and inappropriately combines two unrelated appearances on one line. I have provided the existing original bulleted line below followed by the verbatim new update creating two bulleted lines from the existing line. See my notes at the bottom for additional details.

Change request located under HEADING named: "Other film, TV, and video"

Change FROM EXISTING bullet line:

  • Lee makes a guest appearance as himself in "Bottom's Up", a season seven episode of the TV series Entourage. He guest-starred in "Glimpse", a season four episode of Eureka that aired in July 2011.[147]

Change TO NEW UPDATED version of existing line by creating 2 bulleted lines with inserted text, Thusly:

  • Lee makes a guest appearance as himself in "Bottom's Up", a season seven episode of the TV series Entourage.
  • Stan Lee guest-starred as "Dr. Lee (aka: Generalissimo)" in "Glimpse", a season four episode of the TV series Eureka that aired in July 2011.[147]

Notes & explanations: The original version depicted two unrelated appearances in two different TV series on the same line and omitted key details. This appearance was hard to find and confusing in its current form. I would like to correct it to create two bulleted lines inserting the additional details as shown above. The reference [147] already exists for the existing line.

Since this is a request, I did not use the editing codes on here as I have done for previous edits. However, I believe the verbatim edit above is clear about the intended changes. The original line also includes all necessary references and links to featured Wikipedia articles; all of which can be retained while editing to create two lines and inserting new text.

It is important to include the Generalissimo Title, because his character in the episode is addressed onscreen as Dr. Lee but he quite LOUDLY & ADAMANTLY insists on being called Generalissimo. Thus, it is important to include both character names. It was a memorable and powerful role for his fans. I had a difficult time finding this particular appearance on this page, as it is currently written, despite specifically looking for it. I had to resort to a word search to find it. Hence the need to improve this line. It won't take more than 2 minutes to make the editing change.

ExecPE (talk) 01:18, 2 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Not done: The page's protection level and/or your user rights have changed since this request was placed. You should now be able to edit the page yourself. If you still seem to be unable to, please reopen the request with further details. Sam Sailor Sing 19:05, 3 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Semi-protected edit request on 31 January 2015

please add peggy carter template thanks 129.49.11.152 (talk) 23:58, 31 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

To where should it be added? Stickee (talk) 02:27, 1 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Daredevil (TV series)

Should Stan Lee's background photograph cameo from the last episode be mentioned? [1] — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.46.197.45 (talk) 10:43, 25 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Aliases

In the Timely years, Stan Lee used some obvious aliases like S. T. Anley, Neel Nats, etc. (84.236.152.71 (talk) 13:03, 4 June 2015 (UTC))[reply]

Semi-protected edit request on 6 June 2015

Stan Lee also appears in two (2) cameo roles in the Spiderman Ride at Universal Studios' Islands of Adventure (Orlando, Florida). First as the Driver of the Garbage Truck that the Ride Vehicle (called "the Scoop") narrowly avoids and then in the finale of the ride as a Sidewalk Pedestrian that ducks away and is narrowly missed by the Scoop as it safely lands in Spiderman's Net. 104.136.212.187 (talk) 02:13, 6 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Not done: as you have not cited reliable sources to back up your request, without which no information should be added to, or changed in, any article. - Arjayay (talk) 12:22, 6 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Stan Lee in X-Men Apocalypse

Based on the following link, should X-Men Apocalypse be added to Stan Lee's filmography section? http://screenrant.com/x-men-apocalypse-stan-lee-cameo/ 71.189.39.209 (talk) 01:46, 20 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]

TM(PU)I Too Much Perfectly Uninteresting Information

As often with descriptions of people in American Wikipedia, this article contains too much uninteresting information. This is NOT people magazine - this is an encyclopedia! It is totally uninteresting what religion a comic writer has especially since he does not deal with religion in his work. And you most certainly don't need any quotes to back this up. It is perfectly uninteresting how big the houses were he ever owned and even more so their addresses. So please remove these sections entirely to leave room for necessary information. --178.2.23.3 (talk) 20:48, 14 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Allow me to respond with your own words: This is not People Magazine; this is an encyclopedia. The standards for inclusion are notability and verifiability, not how exciting the information is.--NukeofEarl (talk) 15:19, 23 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Failing Eyesight

There have been articles in the press recently about Lee's failing eyesight. Lee can no longer see well enough to read comic books or story outlines, he dictates them.

http://robot6.comicbookresources.com/2016/01/stan-lee-reveals-the-extent-of-his-failing-eyesight/

MikeLacey 86.3.147.78 (talk) 18:32, 13 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry for the belated reply. I'm tempted to go ahead and add this to the article, but I'm a little uncertain of the notability... Failing eyesight is a common malady when one grows old, and the article gives no indication that this ailment is affecting Stan's public life and work, even if it makes it more of a pain for him. Anyone else have thoughts on this?--NukeofEarl (talk) 17:33, 26 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

I see your point but would suggest that Lee's failing eyesight and his reaction to it (he continues to work) is notable because he's an artist working in a largely visual field. It's notable in the way a deaf composer would be. Mike Mike Lacey, UK 08:12, 2 February 2016 (UTC)

He's not an artist & writing isn't a visual field. 24.14.224.157 (talk) 18:17, 12 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Children

The biographical information box states that Lee only has 1 child. However, the Personal Life section makes it clear he had two daughters. Jan may have died after only three days, but she was still his daughter. I have never seen another entry in which the biographical information box doesn't count a child because that child predeceased the subject of the entry or died in infancy. The number of children should. be changed to two.72.49.235.222 (talk) 01:56, 22 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]

1975 article about Stan Lee

While browsing through the online archives of the Chicago Tribune, I found an article about Stan Lee from July 17, 1975. For some odd reason, the graphic includes "Galactus and his son, The Silver Surfer"! No startling new information is included in the article but it's a fun read from way back in the day. http://archives.chicagotribune.com/1975/07/17/page/27/article/stan-lees-superheroes

Mtminchi08 (talk) 18:36, 16 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Stan Lee Interviews

Can we have a section listing all of his interviews ranging from Excelsior to the one he did for stars etc. Do you guys know what I mean? Fluffyroll11 (talk) 17:30, 11 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Creating an actual Stan Lee Template

Should we create an actual template for Stan Lee? Jack Kirby has one so should Stan also get one? Fluffyroll11 (talk) 19:03, 20 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]

I think we should.★Trekker (talk) 18:50, 12 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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Lead sentence format

Can we agree that "Stan Lee[1] (born Stanley Martin Lieber /ˈliːbər/, December 28, 1922) is an American comic-book writer, editor, publisher, media producer, television host, actor, and former president and chairman of Marvel Comics" is an overwrought first sentence? Any suggestions for how to trim down? 11:23, 21 June 2017 (UTC)

According to the Marvel Comics page, Lee was "executive vice president and publisher", I'm changing the lead to reflect that. LK (talk) 11:36, 21 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]
I think he is the chairman emeritus of Marvel Media. Emir of Wikipedia (talk) 17:35, 24 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Web of Stories

Hello, Wikipedians. This [2] caught my interest today, more background here [3].

In short, there is something called Web of Stories (that article is COI-edited, though), and they have this [4], which I think is a good EL for this article, so I BOLDLY added it. I see WoS is used as a source already. As an EL for this article, good or bad, opinions? Excelsior! Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 06:33, 6 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Personal Life Section Problem

In the article section "Personal Life", it mentions the death of his wife, Joan Lee, twice. Once talking about them living on Long Island, then again in a separate paragraph at the end of the section. They both contain roughly the same information and one should be removed for redundancy.69.127.99.109 (talk) 00:14, 8 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Sexual abuse allegations.

I'm guessing this is being left out of the article as we don't have a tactful way of approaching it just yet? I thought I'd set up this section so we can discuss the best way to integrate it into the article. Lynchenberg (talk) 00:27, 14 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

It was left out due to low quality sourcing. Emir of Wikipedia (talk) 10:46, 14 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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Semi-protected edit request on 31 January 2018

the line for ant-man and the wasp is malformatted in Filmography->Film. Not correctly sitting inside the table. 220.253.127.24 (talk) 09:42, 31 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

 Done feminist (talk) 10:54, 31 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Semi-protected edit request on 22 February 2018

why is there a spiderman homecoming - nba finals? Someone please delete that 12.167.102.50 (talk) 22:49, 22 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

 Not done as explained by following the wikilink, or as seen here - Arjayay (talk) 12:21, 23 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Semi-protected edit request on 25 February 2018

Stan Lee makes a cameo in Marvel's Runaways, it is listed in Filmography, but not in Film and television appearances — Preceding unsigned comment added by LateDuck (talk • contribs)

 Done Eggishorn (talk) (contrib) 18:52, 25 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Semi-protected edit request on 27 March 2018

I would like to edit this because I am an author 108.25.82.248 (talk) 13:23, 27 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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Semi-protected edit request on 28 March 2018

I found an IMDb citation for his cameo in L'An 01. The credited role is Récitant / New York's Narrator (voice). Is this a sufficiently credible source to remove the [citation needed] tag from that section? —Satou4 (talk) 07:40, 28 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

 Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. IMDb is not an RS, please see WP:RS/IMDB for more info. Emir of Wikipedia (talk) 18:39, 28 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Issues related to elder abuse

Three key articles I see: THR on 4/10 describing Lee being victim to elder abuse and other issues, Lee's response via the NYTimes on 4/13, and Deadline.com today with notice of a lawsuit filed by Lee against a former manager regarding elder abuse. This seems to be a touchy subject, so I would urge caution in what details to include, but I think this should be included, given the rather lengthy NYTimes piece. --Masem (t) 21:26, 16 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Semi-protected edit request on 22 May 2018

Can someone with access tidy this ignorant use of "given name" thanks. Someone obviously thinks it means the same as "birth name". It doesn't. "Given name" is your first and middle names, i.e. the names your parents choose to *give* you, not the family name that you inherit by default. what's being discussed in this sentence is the use of "Lee" or "Lieber", which is nothing to do with his given name. "Lee later explained in his autobiography and numerous other sources that he had intended to save his given name for more literary work." 118.92.222.221 (talk) 06:10, 22 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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I noticed this problem too. The request is to change "given name" to "birth name".Gwideman (talk) 00:26, 23 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Stan Lee change She to He in Personal life

In https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stan_Lee#Personal_life

last sentence from:

She was 95 years old.

To:

He was 95 years old. DimeDroll (talk) 20:08, 8 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

 Not done: It is referring to his wife's age. RudolfRed (talk) 20:23, 8 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Semi-protected edit request on 12 November 2018

Add date of death: November 12, 2018 70.49.117.5 (talk) 18:51, 12 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Stan Lee dead... tomorrow?

There's apparently some sources claiming Stan Lee died (Cobicbook.com for instance), but I am not sure how the Wikipedia page is indicating he died tomorrow. I am unable to research to confirm and then fix this at the moment. Will check later in case no one else has. https://comicbook.com/comics/2018/11/12/stan-lee-obituary-dead-marvel/

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