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I'm part time, so urgent things should go elsewhere as I may be gone days at a time without notice or checking my talk page. Dennis Brown - 2¢

NPP & AfC

A dedicated venue for combined discussion about NPP & AfC where a work group is also proposed has been created. See: Wikipedia:The future of NPP and AfC --Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 09:25, 24 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Nudge ;) --Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 07:55, 1 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]

  • Kudpung, I just haven't had anything to add. I truly have no idea what the solution is. I also wonder if the Foundation will block any technical solution anyway. I understand upholding principles, but they don't have to clean up the mess. As I've said before, there is a inverse relationship between how much money the Foundation has and how much fun it is to be here. Dennis Brown - 2¢ 08:45, 1 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Not even if they are responsible for the mess? --Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 08:53, 1 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]
It would appear not. I've yet to have a single positive experience with them, but then again, I'm just a peasant. Dennis Brown - 2¢ 09:00, 1 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 09:47, 1 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]

The Last Honest Man

Hi not emperor Dennis (The Last Honest Man told me that). Did you also see The Discloser of Truth (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · page moves · block user · block log) who was making a similar page. Cheers. CambridgeBayWeather, Uqaqtuq (talk), Sunasuttuq 13:16, 2 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]

  • I checked out the SPI page, then went and salted the page. I tried to err on the safe side with the A10, but completely understand why you G8'ed it. Either way, it didn't belong but I didn't want to CSD more than twice without more eyes on it. Looks like it was moved to Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Kingshowman, same person, older master. Thanks for batting clean up. Dennis Brown - 2¢ 13:36, 2 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Sock needs love

Your name is mentioned at Category talk:Wikipedians for Donald Trump which was created by an attention-seeker. Feel free to delete this per DENY. Johnuniq (talk) 02:36, 3 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]

  • Someone else removed it. I usually vote Libertarian, so inaccurate anyway. Dennis Brown - 2¢ 09:44, 3 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Change of block settings of User:Kingshowman

Hello, Dennis! Unfortunately, you have gave Kingshowman access to its talk page again, which means that if one of the socks know that the king has regained talk page access, the talk page will eventually become a bigger mess, since that king is autoconfirmed. Do you agree? NasssaNser (talk/edits) 05:26, 4 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Please revoke talk page access. Doc talk 07:07, 4 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Why? Muffled Pocketed 07:08, 4 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]
[1]. Is this a joke? A mistake? Doc talk 07:10, 4 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]
No, it's taking the piss. Why do you ask? Muffled Pocketed 07:12, 4 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Typically, we leave the talk page of the master unlocked, since that is the only legit account, but since he had it removed last time I've removed it. Just a simple oversight, it defaults to not taking it away. Dennis Brown - 2¢ 08:49, 4 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Block discussion of Zaostao

What is the hurry? It's been barely 6 hours since the first comment endorsing the block. Let it run for a while. Kingsindian ♝ ♚ 23:35, 5 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]

  • First, it wasn't an actual review, no one has requested it, some people just started saying they are supporting it. It was completely superfluous to the discussion. Second, it was overwhelmingly one sided, so added to being superfluous, it was just taking up time and space. If you want to formally protest it, you would normally start on Floq's talk page, then work up to a review at WP:AN. Dennis Brown - 2¢ 23:44, 5 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]
If it wasn't a block review, then you shouldn't have said that the block was endorsed in the closing summary. Am I allowed to open another block review or not (assuming I want to)? If it was a review, then let it run for a while - 6 hours is not enough time. Kingsindian ♝ ♚ 23:53, 5 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]
It wasn't a formal review. It couldn't have been, no one filed it, no one asked for it. It was just a spontaneous outpouring of support, nothing more. My close was just a reclose to cap it, it wasn't a decision by me, although obviously I put the clear consensus in the close. If you want a review of any admin's actions, you do so at WP:AN, although it is expected you will first try to approach the admin and discuss the action with him. Knowing the community as I do, I personally think you are wasting your time, but it is yours to waste. Dennis Brown - 2¢ 00:03, 6 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Ok, thanks for clearing that up. Kingsindian ♝ ♚ 00:06, 6 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]

FYI

Hello DB. As this thread Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard#Something very odd just happened is closed I thought I would let you know that the person that it was about has returned as 2600:1:B046:D820:7C2E:96B:7071:FC50 (talk · contribs). They are taking a somewhat intriguing tack in creating (with a speedy tag no less) the same kind of essay that they were tagging before. Perhaps they are done (at least with this IP) but I thought I would make you aware of the situation. Thanks for your time. MarnetteD|Talk 01:11, 6 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you and cheers. MarnetteD|Talk 17:08, 6 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]

I am shocked

Not that you closed my ANI report, because I suppose I might have done the same in your place. But at the response to it. The last person opposing the motion even said outright that they hadn't read what I wrote? Someone suggested that I be boomeranged? For what?

I guess I'm asking for advice from a fellow admin who's been around the project as long as I have. What do you do with someone who (with a history of disrupting) is being disruptive and then brusquely dismisses your concerns when you bring them to his talk page in good faith? A Traintalk 12:12, 6 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]

  • I can't speak for Hijiri88. He interjects a lot at ANI where he isn't involved, probably too much, but since the one comment isn't a policy violation, I'm leaving it alone. And no, I don't want to see arguing by either you here either. Dennis Brown - 2¢ 15:33, 6 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Inability to work with proposed mentor

Dennis, I am afraid I cannot work with TTTMF. I have noticed his highly negative comments personally aimed at me at the ANI, and the user obviously has animus towards me, despite my defending him and strongly criticising TTTMF's actually very problematic block record, and the behaviours shown being brought up at that venue. I sincerely felt that was a highly inappropriate venue to bring them up, but I was metaphorically spat in the face for my pains. Regards, Simon. Irondome (talk) 16:16, 6 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  • We started with him volunteering, so I have to go with that if I'm impartial. I understand if you don't wish to help this time. Dennis Brown - 2¢ 16:54, 6 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]
I understand your position Dennis, and fully respect the decision you made. I fear the mentor is unsuited for the role, and there is already a lack of confidence evident in TSD's reaction to the original mentorship offer. However the individual did volunteer first. We shall see how it pans out. I believe TSD to be a basically decent colleague, and can be helped. My main concern is him. Regards, Simon. Irondome (talk) 17:03, 6 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Don Salien - John Saline

Where do you get off thinking this is some kind of vandalism redirect. It was a real redirect- I was watching Jim Henson's funeral and the name came up but I heard "Don Saline" came up but I couldn't find it when I searched so I had to do a lot more research to find it. Once I found it... I added the redirect in case anyone else had the same problem. It was a completely good faith edit and should be kept. All the "vandalism" redirects are from actual nicknames of people... this is ridiculous. I'm actually trying to make wikipedia a more user firendly place and you clearly have a preconception about me that I'm never going to live down. You owe me an apology. --Dr who1975 (talk) 17:25, 6 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]

  • You have it backwards, and spelled wrong (Don Sahlin is the real guy) so that doesn't even make sense. You are bordering on getting blocked at the discussion. That is where it needs to stay. Dennis Brown - 2¢ 18:56, 6 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  • You're right I had it backwards... kind of illustrates my point that a redirect is needed doesn't it. Also, apologies for putting this on your main page instead of your talk page. That was a mistake.--Dr who1975 (talk) 19:03, 6 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  • Why am I bordering on getting blocked at the discussion page? If that's where this needs to stay how can I discuss if I get blocked?--Dr who1975 (talk) 19:21, 6 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]
    • The discussion page is where the discussion on the article should take place. The reason I *almost* blocked you myself is because of behavior. Instead I just nominated the redirect. Did you read WP:POINT? Do you understand the policy on WP:DE? If you don't like being here and just want to trash everyone here, why are you here pushing the limits of policy? Just to make a point and disrupt? Are you capable of even understanding what I'm getting at? Dennis Brown - 2¢ 19:24, 6 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Help:Edit summary

Can you please explain why you deleted this page? עוד מישהו Od Mishehu 19:30, 6 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Help:Edit summary?

Did you really mean to delete Help:Edit summary as "spamming hate"? I know Wikipedia documentation is controversial, but I think this might be overkill. Rebbing 19:30, 6 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Psst! I heard you can't really delete the main page. Rebbing 19:32, 6 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]

I am an idiot and I deleted stuff

The problem is now fixed. I would have fixed it earlier, I delete 3 articles, but the database barfed and preventing me from fixing for a few minutes. I'm sorry. Dennis Brown - 2¢ 19:33, 6 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]

  • The database keeps barfing.This kind of thing is usually funny, except when you are the dolt that accidentally typed:

rm -rf /wikipedia

I think I have finally repaired all the damage. The logs are blue links, I will leave to others to revert his edits. So many deleted backlinks. It wasn't THAT huge, but it was the largest and most boneheaded thing I've done in the 10 years that I've been here. I need that beer now. Dennis Brown - 2¢ 19:43, 6 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]

  • No worries. FYI: K.e.coffman and myself reverted the ip added "book" edits. Kierzek (talk) 19:49, 6 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  • Honest mistake, for sure! On the cusp but not quite worthy of the village stocks, I don't think :) Would you mind sharing how this happened? If there's some safeguard we could put into Twinkle, for instance, it might be worth looking into — MusikAnimal talk 19:49, 6 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  • We've all been there. I once ran rm -rf /lib/ libfoobar.* on a production server—while my boss was giving a live demo. Miraculously, he had finished his presentation by the time I goofed, and I was able to put everything back together (nc and tar from another machine) before he found out, but I still remember the panic. Rebbing 19:53, 6 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]
    The problem was simply a lack of blood flow to my cerebellum due to my sphincter putting pressure on my jugular veins. I meant to nuke his edits, a new script I had downloaded, and instead I had a major brain fart and D-batched them, thinking that would just nuke the edits, and instead that nukes every article. No where near big enough for the stocks, just three pages, talk pages and a bunch of redirects, but some of the pages were large, which choked the server and slowed me down. The faster I went, the slower the server got. Now that it is over, even I'm laughing a bit, as no real damage was done. That is why I started this section. If you can't laugh at yourself.... Now I'm off to do the commute home and drink that beer that I didn't earn. Dennis Brown - 2¢ 19:57, 6 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]
    Got it. I'll try to add some checks into both the speedy and d-batch tools, where it will require confirmation before deleting any page that has say, over 100 backlinks. I'm willing to bet your mistake was not the first of its kind and won't be the last :) — MusikAnimal talk 20:22, 6 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]
    There wasn't that many backlinks, it was mainly that I had deleted a large page and the server barfed on restoring a couple of times. So I'm like "hurry up! hurry up!" and of course, that never works with software. Nothing like that sinking feeling you just screwed up and nothing you can do about it as you watch the files disappear. I was rushed, the fault was mine, not Twinkles. Dennis Brown - 2¢ 21:02, 6 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]
    One more fixup needed! I think the edit- and move-protection of Help:Edit summary has been lost. -- John of Reading (talk) 21:06, 6 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]
    Jeez, thanks John. I didn't even think about protection. I have definitely learned something today. Dennis Brown - 2¢ 21:11, 6 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]
    Help:Edit summary has at least 500 backlinks [2] (not redirects). I think the number of backlinks is a good indicator that deletion might not be intentional, or at least perhaps the visibility of the page might have been overlooked — MusikAnimal talk 21:19, 6 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]
    Ah, you know that voodoo much better than I. I just mash buttons here. I save playing with code for Perl on for my Linux servers. Sounds like an opportunity for an improvement though. I'm still feeling 50% really bad, and 50% laughing at my own stupidity. Dennis Brown - 2¢ 21:24, 6 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Please restore this page: Talk:Gregor Strasser...

...Minus any of the IP added hate speech, of course. Cheers, Kierzek (talk) 19:35, 6 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]

(talk page watcher)  Done. ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 19:45, 6 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]

A beer for you!

Because sometimes we all need one. TimothyJosephWood 19:35, 6 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]
*Pats Dennis Brown on the back*. Don't let it stress you, dude. It happens; nobody is perfect. Hell, look at all the mistakes I make. That'll make you feel tons better :-P ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 19:46, 6 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Yeah, but that is the first time I wiped out thousands of edits over many articles in one button click. That is why the database barfed when restoring. It wasn't epic, but it was embarrassing enough that I bet you I don't make THAT mistake again. Dennis Brown - 2¢ 19:49, 6 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]

LasTimelord

That quote is in the article? Interesting guess anyway. FYI. -- zzuuzz (talk) 21:50, 6 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]

  • I didn't see the quote marks. OS is in the loop, we will see what they say. Hmm. Dennis Brown - 2¢ 21:59, 6 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  • Cautious bunch they can be. If it was me, knowing what we know, I'd turn it down. Regardless, I hope you could reconsider the block. -- zzuuzz (talk) 22:07, 6 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  • Email me, or if you are that convinced I erred, I'm not going to say anything if you revert, zzuuzz. It wouldn't be the first mistake I've made, today even. Dennis Brown - 2¢ 22:09, 6 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]
I went ahead and unblocked. That is one weird first edit, but very likely, my mistake alone. Dennis Brown - 2¢ 22:14, 6 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Much obliged. Interesting to see what the second edit might be.. -- zzuuzz (talk) 22:15, 6 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]
No, thank you. I'm not too proud to admit a mistake. That isn't a new editor, so yes, it will be interesting to see. Personally, I've made enough mistakes for one day, going to go do something else besides Wikipedia. I left a short note on their page. Dennis Brown - 2¢ 22:16, 6 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]
I don't know about the other times, but this time you were in good company :) Talk about obscure... -- zzuuzz (talk) 07:22, 7 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Plus it was a pickup from me (I deleted) off of AN from a non-admin, so 3 of us. Dennis Brown - 2¢ 10:16, 7 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Redact

Just as you redacted this edit, could you do the same thing for the naming of my primary account? I will also ask the user who created it as it can simply be edited, as it just needs to be removed from being visible though deleting it is better. I freely tell people what it is in private but not in public. Thanks. Apteva (talk) 06:51, 8 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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