User talk:Peter Ellis

For older talk, see User:Peter Ellis/Archive.

• Removed full text of Welcome by Isomorphic 05:47, 17 Mar 2004 (UTC) (Peter Ellis 12:09, 27 Dec 2004 (UTC))
• Some clean-up done.Peter Ellis 03:05, 24 May 2006 (UTC)

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Hi Peter, thanks for your note at the New user log. Your interests are impressive! BTW, Wikipedia runs on MediaWiki; the developers would certainly be pleased if they were to read your praise of the software's usability. Anyway, welcome; I hope you enjoy contributing here, as I have. Chris Roy 22:28, 18 Mar 2004 (UTC)

Brake article dup

Welcome to Wikipedia! I noticed you created a new article Brake (box and pan). I believe it's a duplicate of Bending machine and have flagged it as such at Wikipedia:Duplicate articles. Can you decide whether it's a duplicate and merge as appropriate? I'm afraid I don't have enough background knowledge to do so myself. (It's been 25 years since high school shop!) Thanks! Samw 03:04, 22 Mar 2004 (UTC)

Good call by Samw. I have incorporated Bending machine into Brake (box and pan) and fixed the one page linking to Bending machine so it can now be deleted. I can't see how this is done. however. Probably by someone with greater 'powers' who feeds on Wiki-vibes in the dark hours! (Best wishes to them :-) Peter Ellis 05:18, 13 Apr 2004 (UTC)

After merging pages, the one which is no longer necessary should get blanked and turn into redirect to the other one. Wikipedia:How to edit a page describe how to create redirects. I've done that for you. Przepla 20:01, 19 Apr 2004 (UTC)

Inquiry

You've led me to ask. Are you a Canberra resident? Also, are you in the military? You can always e-mail me if you like. Arno 08:34, 30 Apr 2004 (UTC)

Ie tried, but can not work out HOW to contact you, Arno! Peter Ellis 12:09, 27 Dec 2004 (UTC)

Mexican breadfruit

Thanks for doing that merge and adding that information to Monstera deliciosa, I think it was a good thing and improved the readability of both articles. FYI, I've gone and made some modifications I thought made the article easier to read, and separated the fruit out into its own section to make it more prominent, since I think the fruit is one of the most interesting things about the plant and thus would be more engaging to the reader. Feel free to edit as desired. I suspect you are more of a botanist than I :) Thanks again! --Jkeiser 05:35, 22 Jun 2004 (UTC)

Thanks. Please see my comments at Talk:Monstera deliciosa where I am 'outed' as simply enjoying the fruit. Peter Ellis 05:53, 22 Jun 2004 (UTC)

Fairey Gannet

Hi Peter and thanks for the great article on the Gannet - an important type not covered here for far too long! In the last week or so, WikiProject Aircraft switched over to a new way of presenting aircraft specifications and related material (after about a month of deliberation). You can find the new standard described here. If you're interested in adding more aircraft, you might like to consider listing yourself as a participant of the project (on the main project page). Cheers! --Rlandmann 06:32, 17 Aug 2004 (UTC)

Australian wikipedians' message board

Hi Peter. I've created a page (with an idea blatantly plagiarised from our Irish counterparts) where any interested Australians can get together and coordinate efforts to fill some of the (rather large) holes in Australian content. If you're interested, it's at Wikipedia:Australian wikipedians' notice board. Any assistance you could give would be appreciated. Ambi 06:03, 22 Sep 2004 (UTC)

List of Canberra suburbs

I've created List of Canberra suburbs, so Canberra can start catching up to some of the other cities in terms of articles. Would you be able to take a look at it? I'm not a resident (yet), so I could well have made some mistakes. Ambi 12:02, 1 Oct 2004 (UTC)

Well done, and I'll continue to check. May I suggest Canberra by Suburbs as a good and official reference. I've added some planned suburbs in Gungahlin, and Paddy's River--Tharwa as an obvious omission that non-Canberrans would easily miss. And, well picked up that Hall is separate from Gungahlin! Peter Ellis 06:03, 5 Oct 2004 (UTC) I have a long-term goal to complete the descriptions of the Canberra districts (e.g. Belconnen (district)) and will take this list as the template. We also have to get onboard with Stromlo and Kowen as the "next big things". Peter Ellis 06:15, 5 Oct 2004 (UTC)

I made up the list working from that very page - I think I'd have been lost without it! Is there anything around Stromlo and Kowen that should be in there? I really appreciate the help, as it's a little hard to be sure you've got it complete from 700km away. Ambi 07:00, 5 Oct 2004 (UTC)

Um... I realise that I was being too obscure. The Canberra Plan includes the Spatial Plan and it deals with Stromlo v Kowen as future growth options. Stromlo is centrally located and near where the Gungahlin Drive Extension links to the road system at Glenlock Interchange (south-west of Black Mountain). Alternatively, there is an upgrade of Fairbairn Avenue in progress past the Australian War Memorial and this will ease congestion for those travelling from Kowen when the ACT Government decides to harvest the trees. Kowen is also marvelously sited to be a dormitory for the Australian Defence Force headquarters that is to be built between Queanbeyan and Bungendore, if they get the development under way VERY soon. The wash-up of the election of 16 October 2004 will allow a government to plan, unhindered by too much politics. Peter Ellis 23:27, 5 Oct 2004 (UTC)

Cyclone Tracy

Hey, good work on the article. Good info! - Ta bu shi da yu 05:15, 19 Oct 2004 (UTC)

Thank you. When I was second-in-command of a Royal Australian Navy Patrol Boat, our radio operator was a 'survivor' of Cyclone Tracy. He told how the antennas at the Naval station were down, and he'd been sent out to help people after the cyclone and had worked until he dropped from lack of sleep. When the Navy ships arrived after several days sailing at high speed from Sydney, the Navy folk ashore were brought out to the ships, and he smuggled a bottle of 'booze' onboard in the small bag that was all the personal items he had recovered. He said that he slept for most of several days, assisted by the bottle. That's the kind of thing that can not go in an article, though. Peter Ellis 05:40, 19 Oct 2004 (UTC)

Image:Michael kirby.jpg

Hi there! Thanks for adding the image Image:Michael kirby.jpg. It currently doesn't have an image copyright tag, and I was hoping that you would add one as untagged images may be deleted eventually. (You can use {{gfdl}} to license it under the GFDL, or {{fairuse}} if you claim fair use, etc.) Thanks! --David Iberri | Talk 19:55, Oct 29, 2004 (UTC)

Also, Image:Fairey Gannet RAN 882.jpg and Image:Fairey Gannet AEW3 folded.jpg need to be tagged. --Carnildo 04:15, 13 Dec 2004 (UTC)

Done x 3 Peter Ellis 12:09, 27 Dec 2004 (UTC)

Article Licensing

Hi, I've started a drive to get users to multi-license all of their contributions that they've made to either (1) all U.S. state, county, and city articles or (2) all articles, using the Creative Commons Attribution-Share Alike (CC-by-sa) v1.0 and v2.0 Licenses or into the public domain if they prefer.

talk page. It's important to know either way so no one keeps asking. -- Ram-Man (comment| talk)

major snip of this entry, to save space... Peter Ellis 14:44, 26 Dec 2004 (UTC)

Nice work on Cyclone Tracy :-)

I'll help with a copyedit. Where did you get the info from though? We need to add it to the reference section. - Ta bu shi da yu 06:24, 20 Dec 2004 (UTC)

Thanks to SEMAPHORE Issue 14 (December 2004), the occasionally issued newsletter of the Sea Power Centre - Australia (Royal Australian Navy), as now referenced in the Talk for Cyclone Tracy. I fiddled with the article somewhat to make it fit a section format, and provided some not-so-obvious linkages. I believe that this is 'fair use'. Peter Ellis 21:54, 20 Dec 2004 (UTC)

Unverified images

Hi! Thanks for uploading the following image:

• Image:Laurie_oakes.jpg

I notice it currently doesn't have an image copyright tag. Could you add one to let us know its copyright status? (You can use {{gfdl}} if you release it under the GNU Free Documentation License, {{PD-self}} if you wish to release your own work to the public domain, {{fairuse}} if you claim fair use, etc.) If you don't know what any of this means, just let me know at my talk page where you got the images and I'll tag them for you. Thanks so much. Peter O. (Talk, automation script) 21:13, Dec 25, 2004 (UTC)

P.S. You can help tag other images at User:Yann/Untagged_Images. Thanks again.

medial geniculate nucleus

Hey Peter, thanks for pointing that out. Medial geniculate nucleus is indeed in need of creation; I'll start a stub, but I doubt I can contribute a great deal from memory. On the other line, I'm not sure who the good neuroscientists are here on Wikipedia :-) JFW | T@lk 08:42, 26 Dec 2004 (UTC)

U.S./Australia Parliamentary Friendship Group

It was one of a group of articles that were listed on cleanup as being necessary to move from US to U.S. namespace to agree with Wikipedia:Naming conventions. -- Graham ☺ | Talk 03:34, 27 Dec 2004 (UTC)

Graham, thanks, but... I suppose I should correct that. I not trying to be smart, just to understand. I looked through Wikipedia:Naming conventions amd can not find which convention would apply when the organisational title explicitly contravenes a Wikipedia convention; and, I can see which Wikipedia convention applies to naming the US as U.S. as in this case, either. (However, what I did find was an example of US used where the convention appears to be to use U.S..) So, more advice, please. Peter Ellis 11:38, 27 Dec 2004 (UTC)

Sorry I pointed you in the wrong direction: Wikipedia:Manual of Style says: When referring to the United States, using "U.S." rather than "US" makes it easier to search for automatically. When referring to the United States in a long abbreviation (USA, USN, USAF), stops (periods) should not be used. -- Graham ☺ | Talk 17:45, 27 Dec 2004 (UTC)

I Learned About (Burley / Burleigh) From That

I made some disambiguations today, only to find (for myself) that I done them in entirely the wrong page. Ouch. And, thanks to Francs2000 (aka Graham) | Talk who had been there before me, I was saved from a long period of embarrassment. So, I decided to confess.

The name of this section is an homage to the long-running series of articles in ´´Flying´ magazine, ¨I Learned About Flying From That¨, where pilots confess their stupid mistakes in order to help others ahead of a similar mistake.

So, dear Wikipedians, check EXACTLY which page you are about to disambiguate; again misquoting, like Santa check twice which page is going to be made naughty or instead made nice.

Peter Ellis 05:32, 28 Dec 2004 (UTC)

Some wise bloke once said...

Tis better to err and to learn from it, than to do nothing and to learn nothing at all.

-- Graham ☺ | Talk 02:13, 30 Dec 2004 (UTC)

French Communes

Hi! I have given some comments at Talk:Communes of the Calvados département. I checked Communes of the Cantal département and noticed that you left some "dust" behind. I guess it would be helpful to preview your changes before saving. Anyway, no big big deal. Cheers. olivier 05:04, Dec 31, 2004 (UTC)

australia

what do you mean by "royal anthem"? i didnt think we had that. "god save the queen" is the national anthem of the united kingdom of great brittain and northern island. i have never heard of its use a a "royal anthem" for australia.

where do you claim to source this from? Xtra 11:28, 4 Jan 2005 (UTC)

Reference: NATIONAL SYMBOLS PARLIAMENTARY HANDBOOK of the Commonwealth of Australia, 29th EDITION 2002, Australian Parliament House Library, third sentance: "Advance Australia Fair is used on all occasions other than those on which the royal anthem or the vice-regal salute is used." Under that, paragraph (d) of the proclamation by the Governor General of Australia dated 19 April 1984 (of Advance Australia Fair as the National Anthem) says: "that the National Anthem shall be used on all official and ceremonial occasions, other than occasions on which either the Royal Anthem or the Vice-Regal Salute is used;" Peter Ellis 22:34, 4 Jan 2005 (UTC)

Continuity error in Lost's first episode

Hi! I noticed your edit to Lost (2004 television series): "A continuity error ended the first episode. See article on Continuity." I was wondering if you could add information to the article on what the error was. I'm curious to know what this error was and I'm sure others would find it interesting, too. Thanks! Carrp 16:35, 5 Feb 2005 (UTC)

Okay. I was unsure which place to put it, under Continuity (where I put it), or under Lost (2004 television series) or both which seems un-Wiki. As it's topical I guess both is okay: Its debut in Australia was this week. Peter Ellis 22:16, 5 Feb 2005 (UTC)

you patronising message

where do you get off being so patronising. the thing i reverted was clearly POV without any evidence to support it, and by a vandalising anon, none the less. see [1] and [2]. check your facts before you let your mouth run next time. Xtra 11:15, 13 Apr 2005 (UTC) Xtra 06:30, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Wow. I'm sorry that you took my message as patronising. I am in raging agreement with you, and thought I'd said so emphatically, by saying, "It's a bit like the Do Re Me song: Revert, a note to follow "So?" There appears to be a bias in some of the matters that need reverting, such as your recent one on JH. It's like there is an amateur hour going on, with far-from-inventive changes that allow anyone to see the lack of subtlety. Peter Ellis 09:47, 13 Apr 2005 (UTC)" (Retrieved from User_talk:Xtra) However, my attempt at humour must have been too dry (with the "So?" being the reader looking at the silly comment) to tell that, for which I apologise. The change I referred to was SO OBVIOUSLY SILLY that anyone could see it needed reverting. Which you rightly did. Is my point clear, now? Peter Ellis 01:00, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)

i am sorry for misinterpreting that. i am a bit off my game at the moment. please accept my appologies. Xtra 06:28, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)

The vote

In a way I felt bad leaving that vote, but 14 edits to user talk pages is a bit low, LOL! Sorry, 15. Being out and about smelling the roses is a healthier, more human, thing than sitting around typing on talk pages, mind you. ;-) SlimVirgin ^(talk) 07:03, Apr 12, 2005 (UTC)

Okay, I need your advice. Do "minor" edits get counted in the statistics? In some ways, I can hope not. However, I know that quite a few of my comments have been left as "minor". Should I instead be un-checking the minor box to get the count climbing? For instance, should this reply be a minor, or not? Peter Ellis 01:28, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Minor comments do count, but your reply above is not a minor one. A minor edit is one that doesn't change the meaning of the text, doesn't delete, and doesn't add any text. Correcting punctuation or spelling would be a minor edit. But if you add words, then it's almost never minor, and it's best not to check the minor box if you do add words, because sometimes it can make people think you're trying to cheat (not you personally) by attempting to slip a substantial edit through without anyone checking on it. The best rule of thumb is: if in doubt, don't check as minor. ;-) SlimVirgin ^(talk) 04:02, Apr 14, 2005 (UTC)

You're quite welcome. I think you have had enough experiences with other users. --Merovingian (t) (c) 14:06, Apr 14, 2005 (UTC)

Okay... as I sort-of asked at Wikipedia:Requests_for_adminship/Peter_Ellis, what happens now? (Should I expect an email, or to be told here?) Peter Ellis 06:00, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)

The vote failed consensus at (10,8,0) or 56%. Consensus is minimum 75%, preferabley 80%+. You can try again in a month, if you like. Cheers, Cecropia | explains it all ® 07:21, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Thank you. My generalised question remains: How is the candidate informed, usually? I can not see anything, anywhere, about this last act in the drama; however, I'm happy to be told where it is. And, I am not telepathic as is obvious by my asking. Peter Ellis 07:58, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Adminship

Hey Peter, you got a respectable result in the end, and I'm pretty sure you'll get it when you reapply if you've mixed with people just a bit more. In the meantime, if there's anything I can do to help you on that score, I'd be happy to, so let me know. Best, SlimVirgin ^(talk) 16:10, Apr 21, 2005 (UTC)

Hi, ... I'm sorry to see your RFA failed. Had I seen that you were up before it was over I would have voted in support. I don't see any reason why our administrators must all be socialites. I appriciate your quite, get down and work, editing practices. Should you go up again, make sure you ping my talk page. :) --Gmaxwell 01:25, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Thank you both for the +ve comments. As you'll see from my comments above, in the end I was more confused that educated by the process. Perhaps this is now turning around; but, no-one has yet "formally" advised me... unless it was deputised to Cecropia per the message at 07:21, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC). Or, did I miss something in the pages about how these things are decided and people advised? It's immaterial, for now. Perhaps, though, it reflects that I've gone to "the dark side" -- by working in an organisation with ISO 9000 accreditation where laid-down procedures are followed. :-) Peter Ellis 04:42, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Oh but Peter, this is a wiki; you've got to expect and, indeed, embrace a certain degree of chaos. ;-) The note from Cecropia was your official confirmation: he's a bureaucrat, which means he's one of the people who decides on promotions. SlimVirgin ^(talk) 06:27, Apr 22, 2005 (UTC)

Well, knock me over with a feather! I looked at the Cecropia and I'd never know he was a Wikipedia:Bureaucrat. Perhaps a simple, "As the Wikipedia:Bureaucrat in this case, ...." And, guess what? The procedure that I longed to find IS laid down, at the bottom of the Bureaucrat list/page. However, in the interests of clarity, I think that it needs to be links and hence I'll do just that. :-) Peter Ellis 18:37, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)

I concur with the advice of SlimVirgin. The Wikipedia community is a lot more than the sum of its component members, but we aren't always the optimum of everyone's strengths, to say the least. The result isn't all that surprising, although IMO it is a bizarre decision. Jimbo himself said that being an admin should be no big deal. But we're a democracy, and as Heinlein said, Democracy is based on the principle that a million men are more likely to be right than one man. How's that again?

If you're still keen on it, why not start doing some housekeeping on VfD? Most people don't seem to realise that much of the admin of VfD can be done by non-admins. The only decision that needs an admin to action it is delete; If the decision goes any other way it can all be done by anyone, even an anon. This would beef up your edit count in the Wikipedia namespace, and bring you into contact with lots of new users who nobody seems to welcome (it seems many people find it more fun to list a newbie's first attempts on VfD than to talk to them about it first). I think you'd enjoy doing some of the welcoming, and that would beef up your edit count in the user talk namespace too. And there are lots of opportunities there to comment on talk pages, again this possibility seems underused to me, I guess it's more fun to comment where lots of people see it, and the fact that it's far better for Wikipedia if only the right people see it doesn't seem to be high on people's priorities. I think your participation would lift the tone of VfD, and there's always lots to do there. It might also lead you to decide you don't want to be an admin after all! Think about it. Andrewa 10:29, 2 May 2005 (UTC)

VfD vote

I have removed this vote, not sure how you did it but I think it's in the wrong place. Probably best if you reinsert it, I think it goes here. Andrewa 17:03, 9 May 2005 (UTC)

Andrew, I think that I made the silly assumption that by clicking on the Edit link below where the comment was intended then I would append the comment to the field above that. Well, yes and... no! :-) Peter Ellis 01:49, 10 May 2005 (UTC)

Just checking in

Hi Peter, I'm just wondering how you're doing and whether you're managing to negotiate your way around talk pages and the like for your next admin nomination. I thought it might help if I were sometimes to alert you to polls, or to pages where opinions are sought. If I do, don't feel you have to respond; feel free to ignore, and if you'd rather not be invited at all, please say. There's a vote going on at the moment to decide whether we should use BC/AD in dates or adopt a policy of using BCE/CE instead. If that interests you, it's at Wikipedia:Neutral point of view/BCE-CE Debate; scroll down to see the vote (it's point 6.4 roughly). There's another proposal at Wikipedia:Conspiracy theory, regarding whether to stop allowing the term "conspiracy theory" to be used in titles. Some people argue that it's inherently POV; others say it can be a factual description. The vote is at Wikipedia talk:Conspiracy theory. If I come across any content disputes you might be interested in, I'll alert you to those too. Best, SlimVirgin ^(talk) 08:06, May 16, 2005 (UTC)

Hi, Slim. Thanks for the concern, and I'll look over these matters. At the suggestion of another Admin, I now make it my business to look over Articles for deletion and I have chosen to look for certain keywords that interest me; then, I have a general look over the topics. Occasionally, there is something that screams for comment and I do. Mostly, I pass. I have also put in quite an effort to document a certain part of my city's social fabric -- the category Australian military memorials and cemeteries is almost all me at the moment, after I spent a few weeks on ANZAC Parade, Canberra and its memorials. I'm quite proud in my own way, but it's only a start and there'll be someone to improve it in time. In short, I'm not "bitter and twisted" over the adminship, and I'm not resting on my laurels. I am also a little unimpressed with the process, and said so on the Bureaucrat page with my suggestions as to how the process could be clarified for all and (speaking to their self interest) simplified for them. Life goes on. :-) Peter Ellis 13:53, 16 May 2005 (UTC)

Vote about Government of Australia

Peter, you might be interested in a vote proposed by Adam Carr, in response to Skyring trying to insist that Australia is a republic. See details here Wikipedia:Village_pump (policy)#Vote on contents of Government of Australia. SlimVirgin ^(talk) 05:09, May 25, 2005 (UTC)

And the vote itself is here Talk:Government of Australia#Vote on contents of Government of Australia. SlimVirgin ^(talk) 05:17, May 25, 2005 (UTC)

Planet Shakers edits

Hi Peter... Thanks for your effort with Wikipedia, and the Planet Shakers article, however I'm not sure that your changes really enhanced the quality of the article. Perhaps you could reply to Talk:Planet_Shakers and explain some of your reasoning. — SimonEast 05:05, 13 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Simon, see Talk:Planet_Shakers. Peter Ellis 06:43, 13 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Danish orders of Chivalry

Hi!

You seem to be the original author of Order of the Dannebrog and Order of the Elephant. The original text seems to borrow heavily from [3]. Could you let us know which source you used for the original text -- perhaps you have just used a common public domain source. The discussion is at Talk:Order of the Elephant. Rasmus (talk) 10:59, 1 September 2005 (UTC)

User Categorization

You were listed on the Wikipedia:Wikipedians/Australia page as living in or being associated with the Australian Capital Territories. As part of the Wikipedia:User categorisation project, these lists are being replaced with user categories. If you would like to add yourself to the category that is replacing the page, please visit Category:Wikipedians in ACT for instructions. Rmky87 22:22, 19 September 2005 (UTC)

Copyright and Laurie Oakes

An anon IP has just claimed that the article you wrote on Laurie Oakes was largely ripped from the NineMSN site. Comparing the two, while it's not close enough, IMO, to request deletion, it might be nice if the resemblance was eliminated altogether. Would it be possible to over this again and give it a bit of work? Ambi 08:46, 1 October 2005 (UTC)

Thanks, Ambi. See amended version. Peter Ellis 05:56, 16 October 2005 (UTC)

Two content deletions

These two images were, by then, of historical interest only, as the presictions of these election results had both been incorrect in at least the detail. Nonetheless, Malcolm Mackerras continues to analyse politics in both Australia and the USA and predict elections. I said as much in their deletion pages, and did not object to the process. Peter Ellis 07:28, 19 October 2005 (UTC)

Image:Kippax Fair2.JPG

Is there any chance you'd be able to add copyright and source information for this image? MarkGallagher and I would like to use it to illustrate the Kippax Centre article, and we'd rather it wasn't deleted if avoidable. :) Ambi 10:52, 11 November 2005 (UTC)

Happy to oblige. Of course, Kippax Fair has had a revamp since then, and I'll amend the article when I've put up a new picture. Peter Ellis 08:28, 13 November 2005 (UTC)

MarkGallagher has already taken some, so there shouldn't be any need to take more. Your photo, though, provides a really useful comparison of the old and new. :) Ambi 12:11, 17 November 2005 (UTC)

Base Maps

Unfortunatly I don't have access to any copyright free maps, other than what I upload to wikipedia. Rather than starting from an opensource dataset and using gis software my maps are all hand drawn (in illustrator) based on a wide variety of sources including arial photos, satelite images, AU government maps, US government maps and commercial maps. So I don't have any detail other than what I have included in the maps I have created.

The closest thing I have to what you are after would be Image:ACT-Jervis Bay-Sydney-MJC.png which probably doesn't cover enough area or have enough detail. --Martyman-(talk) 00:51, 17 December 2005 (UTC)

Cosgrove

Hi, is Image:General Peter Cosgrove.jpg your own photo? If not could you please provied information on the image source on the image page. Thanks. --nixie 03:36, 20 December 2005 (UTC)

Nevermind, I uploaded the offical ADF image over the old phot and added the correct copyright info.--nixie 03:44, 20 December 2005 (UTC)

For interest sake, only, now, it was an official Australian Department of Defence photograph, taken at his take-over ceremony when he became CDF. Peter Ellis 02:42, 29 December 2005 (UTC)

Names of minor planets

G'day Peter!

Happy Christmas and (foreshadowed) New Year!

I'd appreciate any comments you care to make at Talk:657 Gunlod about whether or not the article names should have diacritics. Also if you manage to find anything in Wikipedia:Naming conventions that would help here. Andrewa 23:23, 29 December 2005 (UTC)

Hi, Andrew. I have come in late on this and see that it has been concluded... by realising that bots have their limitations :-) so I'll leave it to posterity. Best wishes for 2006. Peter Ellis 01:41, 4 January 2006 (UTC)

Yes, that was part of it, the computer doesn't hate you, it just acts that way sometimes. Concluded? Hardly! It's now proposed (among lots of other things) to have a naming standard for astronomical objects. Diacritics in English turns out to be a subject on which when all is said and done there has been much more said than done, owing to lack of consensus. (Do I sound surprised?)

It has been suggested before that consensus could be sought on particular subject areas, and this might be the first one to actually happen. With a mimimum of fuss of course, and many sus aeronauticus. Andrewa 15:59, 4 January 2006 (UTC)

Additions to Canberra

Hi Peter. I notice you have been making some recent additions to Canberra. Canberra is a featured article and therefore should be held to a higher standard than the average wikipedia article. It would be great if you could provide proper references for any additions to featured articles. For example do you have a reference for the snow on Christmas day? --Martyman-(talk) 21:54, 19 January 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for that. Martyman. Apart from saying that I remember it happening (snow falling on Christmas Day), because it was so unusual for Summer (and, consequently, it being covered on the national news), I can't recall the year (in the last 15) and can't find a reference... yet. As for the Campbell and Southwell references, I have met a man here in Canberra where I live with the name Robert Campbell, who is a descendent of Robert Campbell of Duntroon, and he is a local histiran\, and he explained the Scottish connection; and, my children have gone to the Weetangera Primary School in Southwell Street, Weetangera (the suburb named after the grazing properety of that name that covered our area of Canberra.) Peter Ellis 05:51, 20 January 2006 (UTC)

Category for amateur radio operators

We need your help regarding Amateur Radio!

Please come by Category_talk:Amateur_Radio_Operator where we are discussing how to organize the identification of Amateur Radio Operators written about and who are users on Wikipedia. Steve Kd4ttc 03:28, 25 January 2006 (UTC)

Hi Peter, yes its me

Actually I saw your edit on one of the RAN related pages and meant to get in touch, but work has this habit of intruding!

We should catch up. My e-mail address is <firstname>.<lastname>@eds.com (gotta watch those e-mail address harvesters.

Nick Thorne

Visoko article

Yes, i appreaciate the assistence, becuase i am self-taught english speaker. I can understand everything but can't talk or write fluently, becuase I never attended to some english school, curse or whatever. Just wathcing TV and reading articles on Internet. You didn't make any mistakes at all, i freqently check article for new correntions someone would made so i can check it. Till now nobody made mistake, it's mainly semantical and gramatical mistakes that i make... and about your last sentence - i didn't undestand it well :) Anyway, bes regards, --HarisM 10:33, 6 May 2006 (UTC)

Haris, I said, "I have so little any other languages that it is embarrassing." I'll say it like this: "I do not speak any languages other than English; but, as a school child many years ago I learned French and German; and, I have listened to some other people speak their own languages." Peter Ellis 08:13, 7 May 2006 (UTC)

Crossbar switch image

Hi Peter, do you remember where you got the image of a crossbar switch you uploaded, Image:Crossbar2.jpg? It will eventually be considered for deletion if the source is not found. It would be a shame as the image adds considerably to the article. Thanks for seeing on this one. –Mysid^(t) 08:20, 13 June 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for the suggestion. I have provided as much justification as I could discover. Cheers, Peter Ellis 03:28, 20 June 2006 (UTC)

Soldier Crabs

Awesome photo of the soldier crab army. That looks like one hell of a healthy beach. Good work. --liquidGhoul 07:53, 19 August 2006 (UTC)

WikiProject Amateur radio

Hello. I see that you have listed yourself as a licensed Amateur radio operator. Please consider taking a look at a proposal to setup a WikiProject Amatateur radio. Thank you. --StuffOfInterest 19:38, 22 August 2006 (UTC)

Naval Chapel, Garden Island NSW

Hello. Just a brief point: when you write "In the 1800s, the island became"... do you actually mean the 1800s, as in 1800-1809, or "the 19th century" (in which case the latter term would be more appropriate)? Biruitorul 06:03, 19 November 2006 (UTC)

Thanks. I took the opportunity to clarify some other wording, also. Peter Ellis 23:26, 19 November 2006 (UTC)

My pleasure. Biruitorul 05:17, 20 November 2006 (UTC)

Wikipedia:WikiProject Radio

The project is now officially active. Thanks for signing on, and I look forward to working with you. Badbilltucker 16:30, 12 December 2006 (UTC) Hi ya, I just joined into the Project. I have been tiding up, and adding to community radio articles, very timid at the moment. Jacketed 21:04, 17 December 2006 (UTC)

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The cc-by-2.5 license sounds like the best one to use. You might also want to ask at Wikipedia:Media Copyright Questions, they will be happy to help you out. —Pilotguy (ptt) 21:04, 2 January 2007 (UTC)

Resolved. See the image file attribute page (per title) for details. Peter Ellis 10:23, 5 January 2007 (UTC)

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Corbeau

I'm not sure what you change clarfies - can you explain? Thanks. Guettarda 20:03, 15 February 2007 (UTC)

I came across this by hitting Random Page. Corbeau means nothing to me, so it was only after I realised that it was the colour (taking black to be a colour) that was the thing that ties these together. I felt that the aspects of this distinction needed to be provided on the disambiguation page, and a little more of a description, when several of the terms used were in foreign languages and had no description. Peter Ellis 02:08, 16 February 2007 (UTC)

My knowledge of French is deficient - are you saying that "corbeau" means "black" in French? As phrased, it's confusing, because it seems to suggest that the use of "corbeau" for black vulture is related to black rather than to Corvus. If that's the case, I would need a source, since that contradicts what I have read. Guettarda 06:30, 16 February 2007 (UTC)

STADAN

Peter, I took the liberty of updating the picture of the STADAN control panel you put in. Hope that was OK. I was pretty close to that operation in the late 60's in Tananarive.

Dave

Strange. I looked, and my picture still seemed to be in use at STADAN. Did I miss something? Was it also used elsewhere? Peter Ellis 19:34, 26 February 2007 (UTC)

Copyright for university certificate

I hate to nitpick, but can you really release a scan of a document under a GFDL/cc copyleft? After all, isn't the layout and the logo copyright to the university? Guettarda 20:04, 8 March 2007 (UTC)

Fair call. I looked further at the available image tags and changed the licenses. See now. Peter Ellis 20:18, 8 March 2007 (UTC)

Testing - [[User:Peter_Ellis|Peter Ellis - [[User_talk:Peter_Ellis|Talk]]]] 21:17, 13 April 2007 (UTC)

Canberra Theatre

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Thank you for the nomination. I'm honoured! I've added some detail, and will look for more. - Peter Ellis - Talk 19:34, 19 April 2007 (UTC)

But, it expired.- Peter Ellis - Talk 01:28, 24 April 2007 (UTC)

Margaret Fulton

lol, well done. Rothery 22:27, 1 May 2007 (UTC)

Thanks. This came about because it was mentioned on ABC Radio National Breakfast, on Tuesday 1 May, that there was no article on Margaret Fulton. It was a simple thing, really; then I sent the show an email; and, that email was mentioned by Fran Kelly just before sign-off today. Happy daze. - Peter Ellis - Talk 02:08, 2 May 2007 (UTC)

Nerds FC

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Fine, but... mangling Forest Gump, "Public is as public does." I just found the stuff, and in your case you'd made it easy once you'd done your thing on the page. My life is, increasingly, an open book on the net, too. (Yes, using my name on Wikipedia was deliberate from the start.) I guess I'll "join up the dots" of my several personas at some time under one site. - Peter Ellis - Talk 17:09, 13 May 2007 (UTC)

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AHS Centaur

Back in the long-ago days of June 2005, you started an article on AHS Centaur. A large chunk of that article detailed the creation of a memorial at Danger Point in Queensland.

Fast forward to 2007, AHS Centaur is currently under A-class review. One of the points raised was the lack of sources for the "Memorial" section, which is largely made up of your initial effort. My searchings have been unable to unearth a relaible source dealing with the opening of the memorial. Would you, by any slim chance, recall where you pulled this information from? -- saberwyn 03:15, 16 May 2007 (UTC)

I have inserted this on the article's talk page: "I started this article in June 2005. This followed a visit I made to the site of the AHS Centaur memorial, during which I photographed the site in general and memorial plaques in particular. The article was begun by transferring some of these details to the article." I will look through the images I have, in the hope of finding an 'opened by' plaque. - Peter Ellis - Talk 03:28, 17 May 2007 (UTC)

Can't find your email address or how to email you, so if you could send the image to "removed for privacy", I would be much appreciative. -- saberwyn 23:07, 17 May 2007 (UTC)

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I think the same image was on commons under the same name and so the one that was uploaded here was deleted so that one could be used instead. // Pilotguy hold short 20:13, 22 May 2007 (UTC)

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Your article on Peter Openshaw violates BLP

Your article on Peter Openshaw was cited by the New York Times on June 4, as an example of how the Internet can be cruel. It's not funny, and your article violates WP:BLP in every conceivable way. You may want to take it down. --Daniel Brandt 69.150.79.43 03:48, 4 June 2007 (UTC)

Sir Charles Peter Lawford Openshaw is notable for other matters than just this "mis-speak" or what ever it was.- Peter Ellis - Talk 21:23, 4 June 2007 (UTC)

Peter Openshaw

I put it up for both your AFD and Speedy delete for attacking the poor man. Cornea 17:19, 6 June 2007 (UTC)

Corpus Christi College

Hi Peter. I'm the webmaster of Corpus Christi College, Carlton. This weekend is our patronal feast, and as part of our celebrations, we are observing 40 hours of adoration of the Blessed Sacrament, an hour of which I am leading with a theological reflection. This led me to do some research on the feast. I was very surprised, but also gratified, to find the seminary turn up in the Wikipedia search for "Corpus Christi." Good on you mate!

I'm a little curious though. You mention you are a Christian, and also a Freemason. I assume you're not Catholic then, though even that assumption is presumption these days. In any event, you have obviously never felt conflict between the two. I am very interested in your comments -- or links -- on this topic!

God bless, -- "Raphael Hythloday." 22:30, 9 June 2007

Thanks, Raphael. I visited the Victoria Police Academy on Saturday 2 June 2007 and was amazed at the Chapel there. (The wing that was the former seminary still has many CC cyphers in the decorations, by the way.) So, recognising that the feast was this week I also took the opportunity to create the College article. (Please also note that the dimensions given on your site's history page for Glen Waverley have a mis-placed decimal place. I used the Chapel's brochure.)

As for Freemasonry, I am a Christian, a member of the Uniting Church in Australia, and a Freemason -- in that order. Before I joined I asked for the specific assurances of four men whose judgement I trusted, all Christians and Freemasons, that I would find nothing in Freemasonry that would counter my faith. In turn I assured them that I would be "out like a rocket" if I found something in Freemasonry that was incompatible with my faith, and that this would also shatter my faith in them. I got their assurances; I have not found "it", yet. Meanwhile, I have been in lodge with Muslims, Hindus, Roman Catholics, Jews, many Christians, and even a Wiccan. All can profess in their own way a belief in a "Supreme Being" and therefore be a Freemason; and, I know perfectly well what I mean when that term is used. You would be well served to look over the many Grand Lodge web sites for further discussion of this matter, such as Freemasons Victoria and click the obvious link. Also see here. But, looking at the Wikipedia article I found this reference. You must read Christianity and Freemasonry and Catholicism and Freemasonry.

Best wishes, - Peter Ellis - Talk 17:14, 9 June 2007 (UTC)

Adriane Knoppix nominated for deletion

Hi. This looks like a good topic, but it lacks significant sources to demonstrate notability per WP:N. I looked through search engine results and could not find enough info. to make a case for a keep. Maybe you can. Good luck. --Kevin Murray 13:31, 16 June 2007 (UTC)

Image:Phillip Aspinall 20070629.JPG

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Okay, ShakespeareFan00, but I chose the "It is entirely my own work" option[4]; so, why did you send this message?- Peter Ellis - Talk 13:21, 29 June 2007 (UTC)

Apologies,mistagged it would seem. It Would be helpful if it could be clear it was your own photo in the images summary

as well as the licence tag, by indicating self created (as opposed to self-copied) in BOTH places it make the image status more watertight. ShakespeareFan00 13:31, 29 June 2007 (UTC)

You say, "by indicating self created (as opposed to self-copied) in BOTH places", but I chose ONE license option; so you are saying that I should then edit the template-created descriptions and put in extra info? Or, am I missing something?- Peter Ellis - Talk 13:40, 29 June 2007 (UTC)

The user edit to say self-created should be in the image summary, the license tag already says what it needs to

and doesn't need editing. :) ShakespeareFan00 13:46, 29 June 2007 (UTC)

Okay, but I do not build the "image summary", the template does that. If information is needed by you in the "image summary", apart from what is in the license tag, then fix the template (or propose that someone does it, such as the last serious editor of the template.) - Peter Ellis - Talk 13:54, 29 June 2007 (UTC)

ADFA Userbox

Peter, is it at all possible to fiddle with the design (particularly) the colours of the ADFA user box. That purple is a tad horrible!! Mathew Randall 12:15, 7 July 2007 (UTC)

Mathew, please correct my correction of the userbox "Template:User ADFA" to your heart's content. Also see "Wikipedia:Userboxes/Military#Australian_military". - Peter Ellis - Talk 04:04, 8 July 2007 (UTC)

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Rudd ministry

Hi Peter - could I please request that you move this section to somewhere more appropriate, as there was no 'week 7' of the 6-week campaign. Thanks. Timeshift (talk) 10:45, 25 November 2007 (UTC)

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"Template:Non-free use rationale" added, but also see Summary.- Peter Ellis - Talk 20:02, 2 January 2008 (UTC)

Sassafras 'wildfire'

Moved from top of page:- Peter Ellis - Talk 10:52, 21 January 2008 (UTC)

Hi Peter, just read your update of Sassafras and was wondering why you chose the term "Wildfire" instead of the Australasian English term "Bushfire".

Kind Regards,

Karl (Titus Vespasian) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Titus Vespasian (talk • contribs) 12:17, 20 January 2008 (UTC)

Probably because of the reference; Wildfire History in the Dandenong Ranges, Olinda Rural Volunteer Fire Brigade (accessed 18 January 2008).- Peter Ellis - Talk 10:52, 21 January 2008 (UTC)

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Image:Einstein-Questacon.JPG

I notice that on this image you give no credit for the sculptor. Does that mean that you are the sculptor? Or is it just your photo? —teb728 t c 04:07, 19 April 2008 (UTC)

I admit that, to my dismay, my phone camera did not resolve the separate image I took of the signage with enough definition to remind me of the artist's name. This also applies to Image:Yale-Columbia_statue_Questacon.JPG. I'd planned to revisit to get this information. - Peter Ellis - Talk 01:07, 20 April 2008 (UTC)

Image:Einstein-Questacon.JPG does not have the artist credited anywhere; I will be contacting Questacon through the working week to speak to a curator and clear this up. "The Astronomer" (Image:Yale-Columbia_statue_Questacon.JPG) is by Tim Wetherell (2005), per the weld-plate on the statue. - Peter Ellis - Talk 07:45, 20 April 2008 (UTC)

DefCom Australia

Hi, just a courtesy note that I have listed the above entry for deletion. I don't believe the entry is a notable loyalty program, rather a non-notable example of an employee benefits scheme, albeit a large one. Murtoa (talk) 13:28, 28 April 2008 (UTC)

WF (aka Working family)

At the end of the day it's not the basis for an encyclopaedia article anyway - that kind of thing (dicdefs) is the domain of Wiktionary, which is like Wikipedia but aims to be a dictionary anyone can edit. The term was used a lot during the 2007 Australian election campaign but after reading the article I could see no reason why it would be able to pass A7 in its own right (rather than as part of another article). Orderinchaos 12:35, 11 May 2008 (UTC)

Thanks. I do not agree, as I believe the term "has a history", has changed over time, and that the term will 'develop', which is more than a dictionary is expected to cover. You think it should be wound into another article; then, suggest one. I'll look, too. Meanwhile, can you please resurrect the content and put it here? Thanks, - Peter Ellis - Talk 21:59, 11 May 2008 (UTC)

Thanks, all. I see that it has been reinstated, and had a rapid development, to which I have added my 13 cents (one for each mention in the Federal Budget (Australia) presented on 13 May 2008.) :-) - Peter Ellis - Talk 11:03, 15 May 2008 (UTC)

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