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Brenda Jean Patrick

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(Renomination: the discussion from 2010 closed as "no consensus.") I don't believe that Brenda Jean Patrick fulfills the notability requirements for inclusion in Wikipedia. She is (was? I think I found an obituary) an educational consultant who touted the idea of "customer care" in school districts. Most of the information I can find about her consultant work is in the form of press releases in local papers when she held workshops for a district. I don't see independent coverage outside of her PR. Joyous! Noise! 17:58, 27 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep. There is coverage of her municipal appointment as to North Texas' Water District Board of Directors and a range of coverage of her consultation in education and other sectors (Wikipedia Library required): [1] [2] [3]. I've gone ahead and removed some unsourced information from the article and rephrased elements to be more straightforwardly neutral. Hydrangeans (she/her | talk | edits) 17:29, 30 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete‎. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 23:29, 12 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Seeds of Hope Publishers

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The organization does not appear to pass WP:GNG The only references not published by the organization itself is a trivial mention in the NYT and a profile of the editor, Katie Cook, in bpfna.org, who was (at the time) an editor of bpfna.org as well. While there is a list of articles under the "Further Reading" section, one of the articles was written by a student newspaper, one from Baptists Today, and the others all seem to be limited to the Waco Tribune-Herald. They are mostly from the 1990s- and I have been able to find no significant coverage since.

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Delete Full of primary sources and only 2 gnews hits which is surprising for an American organization. Fails GNG. LibStar (talk) 08:59, 1 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete. No evidence of notability. A mixture of references, including sourced published by Seeds of Hope Publishers, at least on not mentioning the company at all, ones which are only just mention it, and so on... JBW (talk) 20:47, 12 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete‎. Hey man im josh (talk) 13:46, 2 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

James A. O'Flaherty

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Biography of subject that doesn't meet WP:NBIO or WP:MUSICBIO or other criteria. (Article was created, seemingly, by a family member. And relies entirely on sources written by family members. Was speedy deleted in 2007. Was restored, after request from creator, shortly afterwards - on the basis that notability might be established by "news reports" and having a music retreat "named for him". However, the only news report mentioned (which doesn't appear to be verifiable) seems to be about the music retreat. Rather than the subject. And while it is a credit to the man/family/community that the event was so-named, it doesn't establish notability. Even if the event was notable (and I would question whether it is), notability isn't transferrable.) My own WP:BEFORE has returned nothing to indicate that NBIO or SIGCOV are met. WP:COI and WP:NOTMEMORIAL are also relevant. Guliolopez (talk) 13:14, 25 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete fails WP:GNG all sources seem to be related to the subject. Mztourist (talk) 03:00, 26 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete - The nominator nailed the problems with the article. It is possible that the Irish music retreat was named after this gentleman, but the retreat itself is not very notable and the gentleman's music career appeared to be semi-pro at best. This article is clearly an attempted memorial that is inappropriate for Wikipedia, where notability is key. ---DOOMSDAYER520 (TALK|CONTRIBS) 13:44, 26 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete: for the reasons outlined in the nomination InDimensional (talk) 11:06, 28 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete per WP:SIGCOV and WP:SNOW. There are literally no sources on the page independent of the subject or his family. Bearian (talk) 18:56, 30 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was keep‎. Guerillero ^{Parlez Moi} 17:57, 8 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Lauri Bonacorsi

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Fails WP:NSKATE; PROD removed without explanation. Bgsu98 (Talk) 18:42, 22 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Comment But doesn't fail BASIC because the sourcing seems to be there (Inquirer, Golden Skate, etc.). As I mentioned to you here, NSKATE is less important than GNG/BASIC. Hameltion (talk | contribs) 21:11, 25 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep. NSKATE is not as important as BASIC. This is a useful short article on a skater who was reasonably successful in junior skating tournaments. Articles on those tournaments work in their current format because there are articles on most of the medalists; there is therefore no need to say anything about the medalists in such articles (for example: ISU Junior Grand Prix in Australia). Deleting articles such as this one, has a detrimental effect on other articles.-- Toddy1 (talk) 07:44, 30 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Comment: Please familiarise yourself with WP:Arguments to avoid in deletion discussions. Your argumentation seems to fall fully within that realm. Geschichte (talk) 09:37, 30 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

That the subject of the article meets WP:BASIC is a valid policy-based reason for keeping the article. Hameltion had already given examples of significant coverage in two different reliable sources, so there was no point in my repeating them. Nothing in the essay you mentioned contradicts that.
Explaining how articles like this one support other articles is not a policy-based reason for retention. But it is nevertheless true.-- Toddy1 (talk) 10:28, 30 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

You said that BASIC is important, which looks like a general statement. What we should do is discuss the actual sources and whether they are good enough to base a Wikipedia biography about a living person upon. The rest of it more or less clutter and should therefore be toned down. Geschichte (talk) 07:46, 6 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Keep There is enough WP:SIGCOV in the sources already present in the article to meet WP:GNG. Yet another poor nomination. @Toddy1: You can see an archived version of the Inquirer article here. JTtheOG (talk) 06:06, 7 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Mittan, Barry (January 17, 2010). "Junior Dancers Off to Good Start". Skate Today. Archived from the original on 13 March 2012.	Source discusses the subject directly and in detail	✔ Yes
Rutherford, Lynn (January 20, 2009). "New partners Bonacorsi, Mager dance to win". Icenetwork. Archived from the original on September 26, 2012. Retrieved September 9, 2011.	~ Source discusses the subject briefly	~ Partial
Walker, Elvin (October 16, 2011). "Bonacorsi and Mager hope to turn silver into gold". Golden Skate. Retrieved October 16, 2011.	Source discusses the subject directly and in detail	✔ Yes
Boccella, Kathy (February 27, 2011). "Radnor High skater's odyssey takes her to world championships". The Philadelphia Inquirer. Retrieved October 16, 2011. Boccella, Kathy (February 27, 2011). "Radnor High skater's odyssey takes her to world championships". The Philadelphia Inquirer. Archived from the original on 31 January 2013.	The first one is a gallery of four photographs. The captions discusses the subject very briefly. The second one is the article that goes with the gallery, which discusses the subject directly and in detail. Amended after JTtheOG provided an archive link	✔ Yes
"Lauri Bonacorsi and Travis Mager lead novice ice dance at 2009 U.S. Figure Skating Championships". LifeSkate. January 19, 2009. Archived from the original on October 4, 2011. Retrieved August 29, 2011.	Mentions the subject in passing	✘ No
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The result was delete‎. ✗plicit 00:25, 29 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Function Health

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Thrice declined at AfC prior to acceptance. While the search is hard given health functions, a search combined with Hyman's name just brings more publicity and churnalism. I don't see the WP:SIRS depth of sourcing required for WP:CORP. A merger to Mark Hyman (doctor) might be possible as the only co-founder with an article, but not sure that would be DUE. Star Mississippi 00:17, 22 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete per WP:SPAM. Although the article has independent references, it's a stub that reads like a promotional pamphlet, with minimal effort made to establish notability beyond one of its co-founders having a Wikipedia article of his own. CoolieCoolster (talk) 02:57, 22 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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vote delete. feels like a company trying to promote — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2600:1700:45F0:31E0:A5BA:C143:EE9E:F7BA (talk) 06:34, 26 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete. Per above. Avoids A7, but is a long way from N, and I do not see how it could possibly get there. Alpha3031 (t • c) 12:48, 26 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Kiolbassa Sausage

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No evidence of notability. One source was added in response to my PROD, but both it's reliablilty and the independence of its content are dubious. Previously deleted and salted as Kiolbassa * Pppery * _{it has begun...} 20:40, 19 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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I'm landing on a weak Keep. I've added a bit, checked the refs, searched for more; there's a biz journals article that looks like it might be sigcov that I can't get to, added that into a Further reading section in case someone else can. It's got two instance of coverage by Forbes former staff, which is a bit hard to assess, and obviously it would be better if it were two different non-local sources. Lots of local coverage, and coverage in an industry mag. I guess what puts me kind of over the top toward keep is the fact it's been in business independently for 75 years, which for a food business of this type is practically a claim to notability all by itself. Valereee (talk) 21:43, 20 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Valereee the San Antonio Business Journal article is sub-titled "Kiolbassa CEO talks growth opportunities, company culture and legacy" and is largely what they say about themselves. S0091 (talk) 19:31, 21 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Yeah, I saw that subtitle, but headlines can be so misleading, thanks for clarifying. It's a cusp article, I'd say. 1949 and still a family business, and of this size...that's unusual. I dunno. I will, however, definitely be having my husband look for it next time he's at the grocery. :D Valereee (talk) 21:25, 21 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete‎. ✗plicit 00:39, 7 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Stephen Barth

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Non-notable lawyer/keynote speaker. Lack WP:GNG-style direct and in-depth coverage. DepreciateAppreciate (talk) 21:25, 19 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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I lean toward delete; but I'm wondering if his textbook "has made a significant impact in the area of higher education" per WP:NACADEMIC #4 (although the discussion under that bullet point suggest that meeting notability through that path requires "several books that are widely used as textbooks"). This is an area of academic law not within my experience, so I will refrain from an actual !vote. TJRC (talk) 00:33, 20 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Delete. We are thankful to the kamikaze account who created and posted up this text, just as we're thankful to Mr Barth himself for supplying his photographic portrait. If only the text could be worthy of inclusion! It is not, due to our subject's notable lack of independent notability. We check the article and we search for sources but, alas, nothing of substance do we manage to scare up. All we catch are routine listings in trade media, such as this; online brochures, such as this; a bunch of expired links, e.g. here, here, here; and a few advertorials. And WP:NACADEMIC is spectacularly failed. -The Gnome (talk) 14:27, 24 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete. Does not pass WP:NPROF by any stretch of the imagination. An academic doing what academics do, but not notably. Qflib (talk) 19:57, 1 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete. Our article lists two books coauthored by him, but I only found one published review of one of them [4]. If both had multiple reviews, we would at least have a weak case for WP:AUTHOR (weak because both coauthored), but one review of one book is definitely not enough. —David Eppstein (talk) 06:53, 2 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete. Agree with above editors. very weak news coverage. Perfectstrangerz (talk) 16:20, 3 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was keep‎. (non-admin closure) The Herald (Benison) (talk) 10:50, 1 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Camp El Tesoro

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This camp seems to have received no significant coverage over its long history. A google brings up nothing but a couple of blogs and a press release, and a search of the newspapers.com archive only brings up advertisements in local newspapers, nothing that would contribute to GNG. Devonian Wombat (talk) 06:37, 17 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep. Seems notable in particular for their program for bereaved children. See e.g. [5][6], [7], [8], ProQuest 390323292, ProQuest 235247096. One of the camp counselors received the President's Volunteer Service Award: [9]. Jfire (talk) 13:32, 24 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Keep - I've added sources. This is a very well-known children's camp in Texas. — Maile (talk) 23:47, 24 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete‎. Xymmax ^{So let it be written} _{So let it be done} 03:39, 30 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Throne (company)

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Fails WP:NCORP, appears not notable BoraVoro (talk) 10:54, 15 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Comment: yet to match the social media networking site’s guidelines. For now its DELETE — Preceding unsigned comment added by HarshalDhotre06 (talk • contribs) 13:35, 15 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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del - nothing but adverts. - Altenmann >talk 03:36, 30 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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