Talk:Capability Brown

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Image needed[edit]

We need to find a public domain image of the old chap.  Done

Potential links[edit]

An interested editor could add to Brown landscapes that have Wikipedia articles by looking through "What links here." --Wetman 23:26, 28 October 2006 (UTC)


Headstone photo[edit]

I stumbled across a headstone for Brown at Fenstanton (I had no idea he was there, so reading the article has been rather interesting). If thought useful, i'd like to add my photo to his Wikipedia page. Take a look at my photo. Subfonic 08:43, 27 April 2007 (UTC)

Please upload it to commons and include it in the article. 7&6=thirteen () 17:26, 12 March 2012 (UTC)

Popular Culture[edit]

Perhaps some reference to Capability in popular culture, notably Terry Pratchet's nod to him in the form of "Bloody Stupid" Johnson? 14:48, 11 December 2006 (UTC) appropriate as a reference to Monty Python's "Pantomime Princess Margaret" and the predatory tea tray in Princess Margaret, Countess of Snowdon.

Lancelot Brown Vs Capability Brown[edit]

This page should be under Lancelot Brown, not Capability Brown. His name was Lancelot, Capability was only his nickname. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Daniel Newman (talkcontribs) 12:20, 3 November 2007 (UTC)

No. Wikipedia policy is to use the name by which the subject is most commonly known. This is done so that the article will be easy to find by people who are otherwise unfamiliar with the subject. For examples, see Babe Ruth, Peter Sellers, or Mae West (among hundreds of others). You wouldn't expect to find these people under the headings George Ruth, Richard Sellers, or Mary West, would you? —Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 01:18, 10 November 2007 (UTC)

Willy Shakespeare or William Shakespeare??[edit]

I do not agree. This is not the case of Mae West or Mary West. If you wish you kan always add the “popular” name of Capability Brown to redirect to the article. Wikipedia is an encylopedia, not a pocket book. Most landscape architects including myself know him by the name - Lancelot ”Capability” Brown. And of course his name was in fact Lancelot Brown.

See for example this article from the Wikipedia

“The term landscape garden is often used to describe the English garden design style characteristic of the eighteenth century, particularly with the work of Lancelot 'Capability' Brown.”

Warrington (talk) 11:27, 4 August 2008 (UTC)

Most people aren't landscape gardeners.Dancarney (talk) 08:42, 22 October 2008 (UTC)

Requested move 1[edit]

Not All Good[edit]

I believe that it is important that we remember that not everything Lancelot Brown left a positive legacy. There is no mention this article, or the Cardiff Castle article, that he was responsible for tearing down medieval structures which had stood since Norman times. —Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 12:16, 9 February 2009 (UTC)

Yes, he got some criticism as well.

Warrington (talk) 16:54, 9 February 2009 (UTC)

William Kent vs Capability Brown[edit]

From the opening summary section, I would conclude that Capability Brown's foremost achievement is that he overshadowed William Kent. My understanding is that Capability Brown is primarily known for achieving an unprecedented scale in landscaping. He went well beyond what his mentor had accomplished in this regard and thus is genuinely entitled to his fame. I think this should be an entry about Mr. Brown's notability, not a platform for promoting Mr. Kent's. Underalms (talk) 15:20, 29 August 2009 (UTC)

Gardens and Parks[edit]

Many of the links in this section don't seem to link to quite the right page. It feels as if someone took the list from or or equivalent and just simplly linkified all the words. I've started to go through and amend the links to ones that seem more appropriate if I can find them. Some of the attributions seem a bit suspect though given the information available on the internet; I don't have any suitable reference books on the subject to check anything more authoritative. Can anyone help:? Ones I haven't been able to find any other evidence for (so far) include

HelenBr (talk) 23:19, 27 November 2009 (UTC)

please insert reference to Terry Pratchetts hommage "Bergholt Stuttley "Bloody Stupid" Johnson"[edit]

no comment. see headline. fans would appreciate it and the original Brown would be proud of the "HoHo". —Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 22:22, 25 May 2010 (UTC)

Leeds Abbey[edit]

This article states that Brown was responsible for landscaping Leeds Abbey when the mansion was build after the dissolution of the priory there. Can any editor supply a reliable ref for this and add the info to that article? Mjroots (talk) 15:51, 7 December 2010 (UTC)

Requested move 2[edit]

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The result of the move request was: rename to Capability Brown. -- BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 02:09, 14 February 2014 (UTC)

Lancelot "Capability" BrownCapability Brown – Per WP:COMMONNAME and WP:STAGENAME. As our article says, and as the references support, this person was most commonly known as Capability Brown. STAGENAME says to avoid "adding a nickname, or a contracted version of the original first name(s) in quotes between first and last name." No, it's not an outright prohibition, but there's no need for this practice when there's a perfectly good name that hits all of the WP:CRITERIA without resorting to the nickname-in-quotes approach. BDD (talk) 21:27, 10 February 2014 (UTC)

  • Support of course. I have no idea why it was ever at this dreadful title. We never usually add nicknames in this way, so there's no need to make an exception for Brown, whose actual name isn't even particularly well-known. -- Necrothesp (talk) 14:44, 12 February 2014 (UTC)
  • Support 7&6=thirteen () 16:00, 12 February 2014 (UTC)
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  • You seems to forget that the page was called Lancelot Brown once upon a time. Considering this Lancelot "Capability" Brown was an improvement. Hafspajen (talk) 03:25, 14 February 2014 (UTC)

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