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"Willingly or were tricked into helping"

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User:Serial_Number_54129 Would you mind explaining reverting this change, or why the text is there in the first place? Do you have good reason to spell out "willingly or tricked"? I've not seen mention of that in anything I've read about this, and User:Tnorthernway is claiming the source as the bases of their edit. I'd like to understand more about this, as the current version looks like it contains opinion or assumptions. Sym24 (talk) 22:38, 18 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

It is clearly sourced and both sources are available. Cheers, ——SerialNumber54129 18:33, 22 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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Reviewer: Gog the Mild (talk · contribs) 20:07, 18 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]


  • The titles of several works are not in title case. Eg Burgess and three others.
  • Both images need a USPD tag.
  • Image captions: should "Melton's Register" and "Register" be in italics?
  • "All that is known of her life comes from a marginalia"; "Melton instructed her to return to her priory … Melton wrote" On the surface this seems a contradiction.
  • Suggestion only. Personally I would include Note 1 in the main text as a separate sentence at the end of the paragraph.
  • It seems odd that the information about Joan de Saxton is split across two paragraphs.
  • "the Registra of the Archbishops of York of 1305–1405" Optional: "of" three times in six words; replace the last with 'for'?
  • Link "Monty Python".
  • Note 2: "small, poor and yet close to the border with Scotland" I am not sure that "yet" adds anything.
  • Note 3: "The books would accompany each Archbishop on his peripatetic travels through the Archiepiscopate." Can I suggest that this either be incorporated into the main text (my preference) or given a separate note. To my eye it ties in poorly with the rest of Note 3.
  • "as usual poverty seemed to go hand in hand with laxity". Moreover the conditions of life set its stamp upon the character of the ladies"" One of the closing quotes is not needed.

Very good. I enjoyed that. Gog the Mild (talk) 20:07, 18 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Goooood morning GTM; sup? ——SerialNumber54129 11:00, 19 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  • Lead: "presumed by 21st-century scholars to be bored of her monastic and enclosed life" ; Article: "In 1318, tired of her enclosed life".
  • "Believing—or pretending to believe—her to be dead, and being deceived by the dummy". Insert 'perhaps' after "and" or something similar.
  • "which she was unable to do in orders". "orders" links to the surname. :-)
  • "where she lived with a man" is in the lead, but doesn't feature in the article.

Gog the Mild (talk) 16:59, 19 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Right, added some indecency to go with your cocoa  :) ——SerialNumber54129 18:08, 19 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Oh good, we do like a bit of indecency. Nice job; passing as GA. But could you just check whether the section header "Escape from the nunneryde" is a typo. Cheers. Gog the Mild (talk) 18:41, 19 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Cheers! (And done that, well spotted...) ——SerialNumber54129 18:54, 19 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]
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