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This cant be true[edit]

The article says:

"Irving was born in Melbourne, Victoria, Australia where his father, Drederick Irving, played professional basketball for the Bulleen Boomers."

This cant be true, can it? the Bulleen Boomers are a woman's team. Is his father a transvestite? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 60.242.167.154 (talk) 05:40, 12 April 2012 (UTC)

It is true. In Australia, the majority of the organizations have both mens/womens or boys/girls teams with matching names. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 153.48.247.250 (talk) 19:48, 22 January 2015 (UTC)

Minor Edit[edit]

Kyrie Irving was on the losing team, Team Shaq, in the Rising Stars Challenge. [1] Also, in the previous note on Irving's page, it reads as if Bonner scored 23 points. Perhaps the sentence could use some clarification.

I made a few fixes. In addition, the Rising Stars game is no longer a rookies vs. sophomores game; each team has a mix of both rookies and sophomores. Zagalejo^^^ 01:41, 7 March 2013 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 15 September 2014[edit]

Chily900 (talk) 05:13, 15 September 2014 (UTC)

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Kyrie Irving's personal life reads like a date profile[edit]

Who really cares that kyrie irving likes reading? And even if he is, he's probably reading harry potter or hunger games.

What is more important is that he posed with two black strippers on Christmas, now that is worth putting under personal life.

Semi-protected edit request on 23 December 2014[edit]

Kyrie Irving has been named the USA Basketball Male Athlete of the Year (2014), but the achievement has not been placed under his "Career highlights and awards section." While it is mentioned on Irving's wiki under "International career, it should be under his achievements, as it appears for previous winners such as LeBron James and Kevin Durant. Source: http://www.usab.com/news-events/news/2014/12/2014-usa-basketball-male-athlete-of-the-year.aspx 76.190.175.201 (talk) 16:32, 23 December 2014 (UTC)

Red information icon with gradient background.svg Not done: As you mentioned, it is already on the page, so I don't see a need to duplicate it. --Mdann52talk to me! 18:14, 28 December 2014 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 30 April 2015[edit]

Nick12failla (talk) 15:22, 30 April 2015 (UTC)

Red question icon with gradient background.svg Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format. Jamietw (talk) 15:26, 30 April 2015 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 16 July 2015[edit]

Please add his 3rd team all-NBA to his list of achivements.

68.110.181.198 (talk) 15:25, 16 July 2015 (UTC)

Done. DaHuzyBru (talk) 15:54, 16 July 2015 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 14 April 2016[edit]

I wanted to edit his personal life, I have some more resources to the past event with him and his former girlfriend and her attempt suicide. Peacode (talk) 12:33, 14 April 2016 (UTC)

@Peacode: See WP:AUTOCONFIRM for detail on when you can do so. Kyrie Irving's article is semi-protected, so in order for new accounts (like yourself) to contribute to semi-protected articles, they have to be four days old and have made at least 10 edits. DaHuzyBru (talk) 14:15, 14 April 2016 (UTC)
Red question icon with gradient background.svg Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format. — JJMC89(T·C) 02:27, 15 April 2016 (UTC)

High School Information Misstatement[edit]

The page states He had to sit out the first 30 games of St. Patrick's season due to transfer, when in reality it should say He had to sit out the first 30 days of St. Patrick's season due to transfer according to the New Jersey State Interscholastic Athletic Association, Article V. Section 4.K (Heyday442 (talk) 03:37, 25 April 2016 (UTC))

Done. DaHuzyBru (talk) 04:36, 25 April 2016 (UTC)

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Semi-protected edit request on 11 May 2016[edit]

Kryie made statements on Twitter in regards to the cheating allegations saying that Kehlani did not cheat on him, so it's inaccurate for this article to say otherwise.

This, "In March 2016, Irving was cheated on by former girlfriend R&B singer-songwriter Kehlani, as a picture of her in bed with Canadian singer PartyNextDoor went viral on Instagram." should be changed to reflect the actual situation.

Those tweets have since been deleted, but they still stand. https://twitter.com/CLEsportsTalk/status/715364632228204544/photo/1 http://www.foxsports.com/nba/story/cleveland-cavs-kyrie-irving-rumors-girlfriend-kehlani-cheated-on-him-rapper-partynextdoor-033016 198.189.249.63 (talk) 18:24, 11 May 2016 (UTC)

I've gone ahead and removed it all together. No need for that BS anyway. DaHuzyBru (talk) 00:30, 12 May 2016 (UTC)

Pending changes[edit]

Can an admin please remove pending changes from this article? Because the article is indefinitely semi-protected, pending changes is useless because all edits are automatically accepted. —MRD2014 (formerly Qpalzmmzlapq) T C 02:31, 28 May 2016 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 9 June 2016[edit]

Given the text in the article indicates he has joint citizenship, this article should show his citizenship as American/Australian (he was born in Australia) 124.150.36.20 (talk) 08:02, 9 June 2016 (UTC)

Red information icon with gradient background.svg Not done: Per MOS:BLPLEAD: "Similarly, previous nationalities or the country of birth should not be mentioned in the lead unless they are relevant to the subject's notability." Australia isn't a core part of his notability, and he hasn't played for their national team either.—Bagumba (talk) 08:28, 9 June 2016 (UTC)
@124.150.36.20 "Being born in a stable does not make one a horse". Irving was born in Australia, yes, but that does not automatically make him Australian. Both of his parents were American, and he has lived in the US since he was 2. He's American, simple as that. DaHuzyBru (talk) 09:02, 9 June 2016 (UTC)

Kyrie Irving Nationality[edit]

"Read previous. nationality not based on just where a player was born. many cases of when someone was born in a country when a parent was working in that country like in this case. represents USA. nationalty is american. his aus cit is mentioned in article"

I think you are taking a very narrow approach to what constitues nationality. Nationalty and citizenship are synonymous....and he is a citizen of both the US and Australia, hence he is also an Australian and American National. He has never given up or renounced his Australian Citizenship.just because he chose to represent USA does not lesson the fact that he was equally as entitled to represent Australia. The current sports team a player represents does not exclude his other nationalities. If going by the strictest definition of nationality (place of birth) then Irving is Australian only, not American. Thevetran (talk) 03:52, 8 January 2017 (UTC)

I'm somewhat on the fence on this one. While I was an initial user who reverted your "Australian" additions, I can let it go based off such references as this that cites his dual citizenship. I do agree with you, Thevetran, that just because someones chooses to represent a nation internationally, that doesn't change the fact that he/she is a dual citizenship and/or has dual nationality i.e. if Irving had chosen to represent Australia, would we list him as solely Australian – I don't think so. I'm happy to have "American / Australian" listed in the infobox. We have to come to a consensus though and stop this silly back and forth. DaHuzyBru (talk) 04:13, 8 January 2017 (UTC)
Per MOS:BLPLEAD: "Similarly, previous nationalities or the country of birth should not be mentioned in the lead unless they are relevant to the subject's notability." Australia isn't a core part of his notability, and he hasn't played for their national team either. See similar case of Steve Nash being listed as Canadian despite being a dual citizen.—Bagumba (talk) 04:41, 8 January 2017 (UTC)
So that's just for the lead, yeah? Should/could "American / Australian" be listed in the infobox? That's the issue here – "Australian" has so far not been added to the lead. DaHuzyBru (talk) 04:45, 8 January 2017 (UTC)
I consider the infobox as part of the lead (see WP:LEADELEMENTS). If these trivial nationalities aren't notable enough for the lead, I'd say it shouldn't clutter the infobox either.—Bagumba (talk) 06:27, 8 January 2017 (UTC)
Fair enough. I have striked my support for having Australia in the infobox based off your rationale. I do not agree with User:Underbelly 50's rationale for not having it, but per Wikipedia guidelines and an example like Nash, I swing my support for not having "American / Australian" in the infobox (or opening sentence). DaHuzyBru (talk) 06:49, 8 January 2017 (UTC)

As DaHuzyBru mentioned as per wikipedia guidelines is why i am strongly for keeping his nationality on this page only as American as it has always been. And as someone else also mentioned Steve Nash was born in South Africa and left there at one or two years old and grew up in Canada his whole life after that he is only considered Canadian, Tony Parker born in Belgium and at two years old went to France and lived there his whole life and is only considered French, Robert Griffin III born in Japan while parents in military left there at one or two years old but only considered American. DaHuzyBru makes a good point Kyrie has lived his whole life/grew up in USA and represents them. Different if he spent a large part of his life in Australia. I strongly agree that it should stay as it's always been. As per Wikipedia guidelines let's leave it at that. User:Underbelly 50

Flat Earth Proponents[edit]

There is a category for people with this affliction, and Irving belongs in it. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Flat_Earth_proponents — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2604:6000:CD46:C900:9497:B1DE:2D7:C03F (talk) 00:50, 19 February 2017 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 20 February 2017[edit]

Kyrie believes the earth is flat. I want to put this in his section of history. Hunterstring32 (talk) 19:14, 20 February 2017 (UTC)

Not done: requests for decreases to the page protection level should be directed to the protecting admin or to Wikipedia:Requests for page protection if the protecting admin is not active or has declined the request. JTP (talkcontribs) 19:19, 20 February 2017 (UTC)
Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. Sir Joseph (talk) 21:49, 14 March 2017 (UTC)

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Semi-protected edit request on 22 August 2017[edit]

Change Kyrie Irving's team to the Boston Celtics due to trade Lebronjames92 (talk) 23:28, 22 August 2017 (UTC)

Not done: Marking per Natg 19 jd22292 (Jalen D. Folf) (talk) 00:19, 23 August 2017 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 23 August 2017[edit]

On August 22, 2017, Kyrie Irving was traded to the Boston Celtics in exchange for Isaiah Thomas, Jae Crowder, Ante Žižić and the a future 1st round pick. 70.180.248.171 (talk) 00:20, 23 August 2017 (UTC)

Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. jd22292 (Jalen D. Folf) (talk) 00:38, 23 August 2017 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 23 August 2017[edit]

2605:A000:8042:3200:9D0A:75E3:C3EE:7F59 (talk) 01:26, 23 August 2017 (UTC)

Celtics

Already done jd22292 (Jalen D. Folf) (talk) 01:33, 23 August 2017 (UTC)

Was he or was he not traded?[edit]

This whole mess is unprecedented, but it brings into question exactly when a player is officially a member of a team. Say the trade is voided; we'd have to remove things from the article such as Category:Boston Celtics players, a category which by nature should never be removed once it's (correctly) added. Same with the infobox, we can't have him playing for the Celtics if he's never played for the Celtics. So it'd have to be removed as well. If the trade is being held up it clearly must mean it hasn't officially happened. Unless it's possible for a trade to be reversed after it happens, in which case Irving's infobox would have to list (by our conventions) that he was a member of the Cavaliers from 2011–2017, the Celtics in 2017, and the Cavaliers from 2017–present. Which would obviously be silly. Lizard (talk) 22:35, 29 August 2017 (UTC)

He is listed as with the Celtics as of now. If the deal is voided then we switch it back to Cavs as if the trade never happened. The category shouldn't be in place yet anyway (they are applied after the player appears in a regulation game), but yes, the Celtics would come out of the infobox. It actually isn't all that complicated. Rikster2 (talk) 23:42, 29 August 2017 (UTC)
Ew. If that's how it works then. Lizard (talk) 00:51, 30 August 2017 (UTC)
@Lizard the Wizard: There have been voided trades before i.e. Donatas Motiejūnas was traded to Detroit in February 2016, but after a failed physical, the trade was voided/rescinded and he was sent back to Houston. It doesn't look like this Irving-Thomas trade is going to come to that as neither team want the other back (Irving burnt bridge with Cavs; Celtics burnt bridge with Thomas). See the latest here. DaHuzyBru (talk) 04:41, 30 August 2017 (UTC)
Yeah, I also saw this. It would be the most awkward situation on this flat earth we're living on if the trade fell apart and those two had to be sent back. Lizard (talk) 06:18, 30 August 2017 (UTC)
As far as I know, there usually isn't much coverage after teams announce trades about whether players pass their physical. Therefore, it wouldn't make sense to hold up updating on 99% of trades when most of the time we wouldn't know about when the physicals were passed. In the rare instance that it happens, we just make another update that the trade fell through.—Bagumba (talk) 07:17, 30 August 2017 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 30 August 2017[edit]

Kyrie might still be a Cav. He is still following the Cav's twitter account along with Iman Shumpert and Channing Frye about five days after the "trade" that i was already skeptical of from watching almost every Cav game from the last three years. Mattgo90 (talk) 00:41, 30 August 2017 (UTC)

Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. — nihlus kryik  (talk) 00:51, 30 August 2017 (UTC)