Talk:List of scientists whose names are used in chemical element names

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Samarium[edit]

you've forgot Samarium in the list. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 109.64.213.16 (talk) 15:01, 11 May 2013 (UTC)

Not strictly speaking a scientist, but added him anyway. Cheers. Aaadddaaammm (talk) 03:23, 1 August 2014 (UTC)

New ZealandER[edit]

I corrected "New Zealander-English" to "New Zealand-English"(for Sir Ernest Rutherford), as the adjective for New Zealand is New Zealand. New Zealander is the noun. All other countries use the adjective form, so for consistency this should be New Zealand-English. User:Nedim Ardoğa reverted my edit with the explanation "Nationality not the country". This is illogical and I'd like to revert the revert, please. Aaadddaaammm (talk) 01:26, 31 July 2014 (UTC)

If so I apoligise. But according to WP, New Zealanders are the people of New Zealand. It is just like Germans, Austrians, Russians etc. New Zealand is the name of the country such as Germany, Austria, Russia etc. (Please check the relevant articles.) Thus I think my original classification was more consistent. Nedim Ardoğa (talk) 08:32, 31 July 2014 (UTC)
You appear to be confused. In the current list, all countries are listed by their adjective: Russian, Finnish, Polish, English, Swedish. The country names are Russia, Finland, Poland, England, Sweden. The name for a person from these countries are Russian, Finn, Pole, Englishman, Swede.
For NZ, the adjective is New Zealand (the same as the name of the country), and the person is a New Zealander. It's a bit of an exception but it's true. Have a look here if you still don't believe me List of adjectival and demonymic forms for countries and nations. We speak of New Zealand butter, New Zealand people, New Zealand dollar. If you want to have "New Zealander" in this list, it would be consistent then to change Finnish to Finn, Polish to Pole, etc. But I think we can agree that it's easier to revert New Zealander to New Zealand. Aaadddaaammm (talk) 23:42, 31 July 2014 (UTC)
Changed it back. Aaadddaaammm (talk) 23:59, 3 August 2014 (UTC)

Samarium[edit]

When I created this article back in 2011, the element Samarium was not in the list. It was added by User:Aaadddaaammm in 2014. (see above notice) After this addition I put a note stating that Vasili Samarsky-Bykhovets was actually a mining engineer. Now this addition is contested by User:Hellbus. Now lets discuss on whether or not to keep samarium in the list. Nedim Ardoğa (talk) 10:10, 6 January 2016 (UTC)

I'm OK with samarium being removed from the list. It was named after a mineral which was in turn named after a person who wasn't considered a scientist. The other option is to rename the article to a list of people instead of a list of scientists. Hellbus (talk) 01:55, 7 January 2016 (UTC)
I'm OK with whatever. Aaadddaaammm (talk) 21:28, 12 January 2016 (UTC)

Livermorium[edit]

Should livermorium be added to this list? Flerovium is on the list, and it was named after the Flerov Laboratory of Nuclear Reactions. By analogy, livermorium is named after the Lawrence-Livermore National Laboratory. Alternatively, flerovium could be removed from the list because it wasn't named after a person, per se. Zachcrush14 (talk) 21:55, 22 March 2016 (UTC)

Well the anology is not exact. Georgy Flyorov is a nuclear scientist and Robert Livermore is a landowner. You can see in the past discussions that even Vasili Samarsky-Bykhovets' name has been removed from the list because a mining engineer is not a scientist. Nedim Ardoğa (talk) 22:09, 22 March 2016 (UTC)
That makes more sense. Thanks for the clarification. Zachcrush14 (talk) 22:39, 22 March 2016 (UTC)
The lead says that fifteen elements have been named for people. Vasili Samarsky-Bykhovets is included in this count. Robert Livermore was no scientist, but he should count as "people". --Klausok (talk) 05:03, 4 July 2016 (UTC)
I think now it's OK Nedim Ardoğa (talk) 19:08, 4 July 2016 (UTC)

Speciality[edit]

A new column (speciality) has been added. But it is empty. Why do we need it ? I'll callthe editor.Nedim Ardoğa (talk) 07:29, 28 June 2016 (UTC)

It was added by DePiep as a placeholder so that the information could be added. I think it is a very helpful addition so that to easily distinguish chemists from physicists and the like. Hopefully we won't run into problems with listing multiple disciplines per scientist. YBG (talk) 07:53, 28 June 2016 (UTC)
Indeed. To me looks more relevant than say nationality. Label it "Specialism"? -DePiep (talk) 13:42, 28 June 2016 (UTC)