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Why did you come to Japan? - Slowends (talk) 01:21, 4 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Sarumino - --gråb whåt you cån (talk) 23:06, 14 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Shizue Natsukawa – Michitaro (talk) 04:08, 21 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Taiki Murai – Bensci54 (talk) 10:25, 23 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Noboru Karashima – Bensci54 (talk) 05:50, 23 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Masatoshi Nakamura -- JoshuSasori (talk) 05:00, 9 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Chinami Suzuki -- JoshuSasori (talk) 13:37, 7 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Japan Institute of the Moving Image -- JoshuSasori (talk) 04:39, 31 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Heat Wave Island --JoshuSasori (talk) 08:16, 29 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Kokufu bamse (talk) 20:12, 20 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Nakayama Tadachika bamse (talk) 22:33, 13 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Fujiwara no Hirotsugu Rebellion, still needs copyedit, will add map to it soon -- bamse (talk) 21:52, 8 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Tsurube Shofukutei --JoshuSasori (talk) 14:05, 30 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Edo Porn --JoshuSasori (talk) 23:50, 21 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Kei Yamamoto --JoshuSasori (talk) 07:07, 20 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Burakkubōdo --JoshuSasori (talk) 01:20, 18 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Mazda K360 --JoshuSasori (talk) 01:00, 18 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Dobu (film) --JoshuSasori (talk) 01:00, 18 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Hototogisu (magazine) --gråb whåt you cån (talk) 12:55, 29 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Mephisto Award Could benefit from someone fluent in Japanese to help me translate the Japanese Wikipedia page and checkover some of my translations1Q84 (talk) 18:01, 14 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Murasaki Shikibu Diary Emaki bamse (talk) 17:50, 8 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Japan-Latin America relations (talk) 09:09, 22 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Maeda Ikutokukai. bamse (talk) 01:10, 28 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Kichō. ···日本穣^? · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe · Join WikiProject Japan! 18:49, 18 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Kanpyō Gyoki -- bamse (talk) 21:55, 17 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Tosa Yamauchi Family Treasury and Archives -- feel free to write a WP:DYK hook for it, I can't come up for anything interesting enough. bamse (talk) 14:59, 17 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

The Seashell Game (貝おほひ) – stub --gråb whåt you cån (talk) 15:34, 16 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Tōshiro Ishida – Could benefit from expansion by those who can read Japanese language sources. --88.104.47.107 (talk) 09:33, 12 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Hiroyuki Kobayashi (producer). ···日本穣^? · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe · Join WikiProject Japan! 06:02, 10 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Station bell -- could do with a few more links to it from other articles. bamse (talk) 21:58, 20 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Shōjō-ji bamse (talk) 21:42, 19 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Saijiki (book) --gråb whåt you cån (talk) 23:08, 15 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Hatakeyama Memorial Museum of Fine Art bamse (talk) 22:34, 13 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Anraku-ji (Ueda) bamse (talk) 12:26, 4 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Omura Shrine bamse (talk) 16:59, 3 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Civil war of Wa, newly created. bamse (talk) 22:41, 17 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Kiyoo Mogi, seismologist and authority on earthquake prediction. Newly created today. Needs a little extra material from Japanese language sources to meet DYK criteria. Ivolocy (talk) 11:50, 19 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Coordinating Committee for Earthquake Prediction Newly created today. Could do with a list of the 10 areas under observation (which can be translated from the referenced document) Ivolocy (talk) 14:14, 19 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Black Thunder (chocolate bar), new article, featured in DYK section on 28 Feb 2011. Boneyard90 (talk) 03:02, 1 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

List of Important Intangible Folk Cultural Properties, still very incomplete, needs a lot of work (help welcome) and images bamse (talk) 09:52, 27 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

NewGin, a pachinko machine manufacturer. ···日本穣^? · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe · Join WikiProject Japan! 00:34, 30 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Akiyama Nobutomo. Overhaul of this article on a Sengoku samurai. Boneyard90 (talk) 22:51, 1 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Hōkago no Pleiades, a joint production of Gainax and Subaru. ···日本穣^? · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe · Join WikiProject Japan! 04:53, 31 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Kokurikozaka kara, a 2011 Studio Ghibli film. ···日本穣^? · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe · Join WikiProject Japan! 07:20, 16 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Okonomi-mura. ···日本穣^? · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe · Join WikiProject Japan! 22:46, 11 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Alfons Mumm von Schwarzenstein, pre WW1 ambassador of the German Empire in Japan.--Kresspahl (talk) 10:57, 9 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Hoka Hoka Kazoku (anime series). ···日本穣^? · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe · Join WikiProject Japan! 05:33, 1 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Cosquín en Japón, the largest Andean music festival in Japan. purplepumpkins (talk) 07:30, 25 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Chris Mosdell, a writer of lyrics for Japanese musicians, etc (found; and more precisely, found in this state). Shunji Dodo and Katsuhito Nakazato, two photographers. -- Hoary (talk) 08:56, 16 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

C, C, & C. Boneyard90 (talk) 14:37, 7 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Inazuma Eleven (manga). ···日本穣^? · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe · Join WikiProject Japan! 23:26, 3 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

C-class. See Talk:Inazuma Eleven (manga) for comments. Boneyard90 (talk) 14:13, 7 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Rōmon, a gate. bamse (talk) 20:40, 19 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Start-class. See Talk:Rōmon for commentary. Boneyard90 (talk) 08:42, 28 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Studio Ghibli short films. ···日本穣^? · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe · Join WikiProject Japan! 20:20, 14 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Start Class. Boneyard90 (talk) 13:55, 7 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Glossary of Japanese swords, so far just a start. Please add descriptions and wikilink the glossary in sword-related articles. bamse (talk) 14:08, 12 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

B-Class. See Talk:Glossary of Japanese swords for Commentary. Boneyard90 (talk) 13:43, 7 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Motosuke Takahashi, animation director, storyboarder, director, etc. ···日本穣^? · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe · Join WikiProject Japan! 07:55, 22 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Assessed Start class. Boneyard90 (talk) 13:29, 7 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Tokushima's At-large district (House of Councillors), Kagawa's At-large district (House of Councillors), Hokkaido's At-large district; Aichi's 5th district --Asakura Akira (talk) 06:17, 11 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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Takoutaue-ike Dam

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fails WP:GNG BryceM2001 (talk) 17:55, 12 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Eita Kasagawa

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Deleted before. Career consisting of 472 minutes play time. No sources (including ja:wiki) to meet WP:GNG and WP:SPORTCRIT. Geschichte (talk) 08:01, 11 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete - no evidence of notability. If sources are found which show significant coverage please ping me. Giant Snowman 10:38, 11 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete – Fails in WP:GNG. Svartner (talk) 11:08, 11 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete - he apparently played in only 12 professional football matches in total and not in any major teams. Not prominent. starship.paint (talk / cont) 11:32, 11 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Yu Tokiwa

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When one season in Singapore is all this player has done, notability is very questionable. Sources are lacking significant in-depth information about the player as well as independence (all Gekisaka sources in tha ja:wiki version are routine), and I don't think one piece in Town News is enough to make an encyclopedic article. Geschichte (talk) 05:38, 8 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete – Fails in WP:GNG. Svartner (talk) 14:42, 8 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Delete - no evidence of notability. If sources are found which show significant coverage please ping me. Giant Snowman 17:30, 8 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Shinichi Shuto

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No sources to meet WP:GNG and WP:SPORTCRIT and not remotely close to a claim to notability, having played 2 cup games for J League teams. Creator is blocked indefinitely. Geschichte (talk) 20:49, 7 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete – Fails in WP:GNG. Svartner (talk) 14:42, 8 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Delete - no evidence of notability. If sources are found which show significant coverage please ping me. Giant Snowman 17:30, 8 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete - he played 2 professional football matches. That is not a prominent career. starship.paint (talk / cont) 14:40, 11 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Sho Kamimura

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Rightfully prodded by User:Piotrus in 2023. Played very briefly in Japan’s second league, India’s second league and in Singapore. Nothing usable in ja:wiki, no sources to meet WP:GNG and WP:SPORTCRIT. Creator is indefinitely blocked. Geschichte (talk) 07:45, 7 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete: One or two goals isn't the stuff of notability, playing in the third league is very likely non-notable. The lack of sourcing in both the Ja and En wiki articles are also indicative of non-notability. I can't find any sourcing about this person. Oaktree b (talk) 14:27, 7 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Delete - no evidence of notability. If sources are found which show significant coverage please ping me. Giant Snowman 21:12, 7 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete this footballer does not seem notable. My search yielded nothing substantial that meets the GNG.Chanel Dsouza (talk) 14:51, 8 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete. Non-notable ball kicker. Not everyone who dabbled with professional sports is notable. --_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 05:31, 9 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete. One source on the page and it is only a data entry with no significant coverage on the subject. I can not find sufficient coverage to establish notability. Fails to meet WP:SPORTCRIT. RangersRus (talk) 15:48, 9 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hiroto Arai

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Played briefly in Japan’s third league. Nothing usable in ja:wiki, the longest source mentions Arai in half a sentence. Therefore no sources to meet WP:GNG and WP:SPORTCRIT. Creator (Simione) is active in AFD, what do you think? Geschichte (talk) 07:50, 7 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete - no evidence of notability. If sources are found which show significant coverage please ping me. Giant Snowman 21:13, 7 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Kim Ho (footballer, born 1998)

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Deleted before. Very weak claim to notability with 5 games/169 minutes in Japan's third league, no significant and independent sources (including ja:wiki), fails WP:GNG and WP:SPORTCRIT. Geschichte (talk) 20:12, 6 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete I don't know this user, but the deletion notices on their page suggest they had a habit of creating pages as soon as a player crossed the white line into Japanese third division football, even if that turned out to be the only time in their career. Some users were prolific under the old WP:NFOOTY guideline in creating perma-stubs like this with just a link to a database, as if notability were to be WP:INHERITED from a (still minor) league or club. Simply put, right now, any page on Wikipedia should WP:GNG or just GO. Unknown Temptation (talk) 21:52, 6 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Delete - no evidence of notability. If sources are found which show significant coverage please ping me. Giant Snowman 21:12, 7 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete – Fails in WP:GNG. Svartner (talk) 14:40, 8 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete Fails even WP:FOOTYN (third league) and does not meet WP:GNG.Marcocanol (talk) 16:45, 11 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Shinji Morita

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The claim to notability, playing 15 games in Japan's second league 10 years ago, is weak. The sources (including in the ja:wiki) are not enough to rectify that and as such he fails WP:GNG and WP:SPORTCRIT. The creator of the article is globally locked. Geschichte (talk) 08:08, 6 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete - no evidence of notability. If sources are found which show significant coverage please ping me. Giant Snowman 19:32, 6 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete– Fails in WP:GNG. Svartner (talk) 14:39, 8 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete per above, no significant success in the sport. starship.paint (talk / cont) 13:44, 12 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Ryang Hyon-ju

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Article fails WP:GNG. Simione001 (talk) 23:00, 5 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep - I've found some coverage about this player in Japanese, including this interview article 1, and two other articles from Gekisaka 2, 3. I think they're enough to pass WP:GNG, especially for a North Korean footballer. -- Lâm (talk) 03:56, 6 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep per sources above which show notability. Giant Snowman 19:32, 6 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep – Per Lâm. WP:SIGCOV from japanese media. Svartner (talk) 14:38, 8 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete‎. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 21:56, 12 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Kumpei Kakuta

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Unfortunately, I don't see this player meeting WP:GNG and WP:SPORTCRIT, spending one season in Singapore and then moving on to the fifth tier of Japanese football. Geschichte (talk) 20:13, 5 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete: fails GNG, I'm finding only passing mentions in much larger articles (and not many of them, either). AntiDionysius (talk) 20:48, 5 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete - no evidence of notability. If sources are found which show significant coverage please ping me. Giant Snowman 19:31, 6 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete – Fails in WP:GNG. Svartner (talk) 14:31, 8 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Good Day (BoyNextDoor song)

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Doesn't seem to meet WP:NSONG... b-side song, didn't chart, no significant coverage in independent sources (all the news coverage references seem to be just regurgitated press releases from the group's agency saying the song exists).

Some of the article's content could maybe be salvaged and put into a newly-created article about the song's parent maxi-single (along with information on the other 3 songs, maybe?) but as it stands it doesn't fit the criteria. RachelTensions (talk) 23:57, 22 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Redirect to Earth, Wind & Fire (song) § Japanese version per nom. Nothing came up for my search Mach61 17:13, 23 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 22:32, 29 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Keep: here's are the reasons!

Recent Release and Reception: "Good Day" is the first original Japanese-language song by BoyNextDoor, released on July 10, 2024, as part of their maxi single "And," which also includes Japanese re-recordings of previous hits. This context showcases its importance in the group's discography and the expanding international reach of K-pop.
Cultural Impact: The song, characterized as a hip-hop track, deals with themes of self-empowerment and enjoying solitude after a breakup. This relatable subject matter can resonate with a wide audience, enhancing its cultural relevance.
Industry Recognition: BoyNextDoor has already gained significant recognition in the K-pop industry, including awards such as the Global Rising Artist at the 2023 Melon Music Awards. This success indicates a strong fanbase and establishes their credibility as a notable act.
Source Citations: Provide citations from reputable K-pop news sites like Allkpop, Kpopping, and Kpoppie that cover the song's release and significance. These sources validate the content and add weight to the article's claims about the song's impact and the group's activities. ( https://www.allkpop.com/video/2024/08/boynextdoor-reveal-special-mv-for-good-day-b-side-track ), (https://kpopping.com/musicalbum/2024-AND2/GOOD-DAY10), (https://kpoppie.com/boynextdoor-members-profiles/)
OTHER LINKS:
https://www.allkpop.com
https://kpopping.com/musicalbum/2024-AND2/GOOD-DAY10
https://kpoppie.com

WikiNicExplorer 7:16, 31 October 2024 (UTC)

Alright so: none of these reasons assert how the song meets WP:NSONG notability criteria.
Point #2 doesn't describe any actual cultural impact, point #3 is discussing the notability of the band, not the song. Nobody is questioning the notability of the band, and point #4 is moot as none of those sources are reliable sources, and, in fact, most of them are specifically noted as unreliable sources at WP:KO/RS#UR.
Thanks RachelTensions (talk) 20:44, 31 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I have no idea why WP:Convenient Discussions is attributing the above keep vote to me, tried to fix it but anyway.. if anyone is confused it was made by WikiNicExplorer, not me. RachelTensions (talk) 20:46, 31 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
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FYI it would appear that @WikiNicExplorer's above "keep" vote was generated by AI (asking ChatGPT to generate a response for why this article should not be deleted results in almost identical text). RachelTensions (talk) 06:36, 7 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Note: WikiNicExplorer has been blocked for sockpuppetry per Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Nic.cartagena12 hence !vote should be voided. — Paper9oll (🔔 • 📝) 10:47, 9 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Kaoli Isshiki

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Fails WP:SIGCOV. No significant coverage in any of the sources. Two of the three cited sources don't even mention the subject, and the one source that does simply lists her as one of several singers in a chamber choir (she is one of four singers in the soprano section). 4meter4 (talk) 01:59, 20 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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I looked as promised, don't know yet. Solo appearance at the BBC Proms is at least something. I added some external links to check out. Her repertoire seems off the beaten track, plenty contemporary, and we might want to support that. I found the ref from which most of the article was taken and reworded. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 16:53, 21 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
adding: the French article has 24 references. I guess that some are those I also found (now in external links). Will look closer tomorrow, but someone knowing French might be more more successful. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 19:21, 21 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Keep: I haven't looked at those yet, but the English article is now referenced. For me, she is notable enough, having made interesting recordings, with notable ensembles and conductors, and only favourable reviews. She is not a diva-type soprano: that should not be a reason to delete. The article serves many links to music that is not normally in focus, both Baroque as contemporary. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:12, 22 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
For the French sources, I need help to not misread the French:
1. [1] This Le Monde article says that she won a prize.
2. [2] This is a more detailed review of her singing (not just "outstanding").
3. [3] recital
4. [4] recording --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:32, 22 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Gerda Arendt I don't think this in-depth enough to meet WP:SIGCOV. The last source is selling her CD and is not independent or significant coverage. The prod-s.com website also lacks independence. The Le Monde article spends half a sentence on her, and is a smaller not all that notable prize. The main prize went to another performer, Richard Rittelman, who deservedly is the focus of that article. Only the anaclase.com source approaches significant coverage (and honestly it isn't long enough to be considered in-depth as it devotes less than a paragraph of the article to her performance). Laurent Cuniot is the main subject of that article not Isshiki. There's not enough here to pass WP:NSINGER or WP:GNG or WP:ANYBIO.4meter4 (talk) 21:15, 22 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Is Wikipedia only for those who win first prize? - This is a performer of several unusual recordings, and performances in Paris, Brussels, Proms, ... - Aldeburgh could be added. - Deborah Sasson was kept, but achieved less in the music world. She knew how to attract the press, however. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:52, 22 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Gerda Arendt This has nothing to do with the evaluating the worth of prize winners, but evaluating the quality of coverage of Kaoli Isshiki in sources. A half sentence of text is not significant coverage, and if the award were significant we would expect more coverage in independent media or academic publications. We can only build articles based on our notability guidelines which requires that we support articles with extant sources that contain significant coverage. That does mean that what journalists and academics choose to pay attention to directly impacts the types of articles we can create because we can't engage in WP:Original Research. That is both a limitation and a strength of writing on wikipedia. The fact that you have yet to locate any sources directly about Isshiki where she is the primary subject indicates that she isn't notable for wikipedia's purposes. This indicates that a journalist or an academic researcher needs to do some work before we can have an article and it is WP:TOOSOON for wikipedia to write on this person.4meter4 (talk) 22:34, 22 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I don't believe that our coverage should depend on one reviewer's or academic's personal attention or lack of that, when her contributions to music are facts. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:45, 27 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Then fundamentally you have missed the point of wikipedia's core policies at WP:No original research, WP:VERIFIABILITY, and WP:SIGCOV. We can't build articles largely verified to primary and non-independent sources. Best.4meter4 (talk) 18:20, 27 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Informations about concerts and recordings are facts, not original research. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 18:56, 27 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

See WP:PSTS which states, Wikipedia articles should be based on reliable, published secondary sources, and to a lesser extent, on tertiary sources and primary sources. Secondary or tertiary sources are needed to establish the topic's notability and avoid novel interpretations of primary sources. The issue here is that there is not enough secondary coverage of her performances and recordings to establish the notability of those performances and recordings, and to make sure the "facts" are presented in an encyclopedic and neutral manner. Building an article from primarily primary materials and sources closely connected to the subject does not match the policy language at PSTS. At this point we have found zero secondary or tertiary sources with significant coverage. That makes the topic both not notable, and any article built from the current sources in evidence a violation of PSTS policy on the no original research page. Best.4meter4 (talk) 21:15, 27 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

(Please educate me on my talk, not here. - Edit conflict, response only to the beginning of the comment above.) I didn't write this article, and probably would not have created it. But now it's there. I don't think we need "research" to agree that The Proms are notable, and that singing all of Monteverdi's Vespers (not just solos) is an admirable feat. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:29, 27 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Quoting policy language here isn't about educating you Gerda (although if it does that is a bonus). It's relevant policy language to the discussion. Providing textual evidence for an WP:AFD argument is what we are supposed to do at an AFD for the benefit of all participants. I have provided a detailed source analysis below, showing how none of the references constitute independent significant coverage as required by WP:Notability.`4meter4 (talk) 01:11, 28 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Wikipedia:Deletion process#Relisting discussions
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 01:29, 27 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Liz, could you please notify relevant projects, such as Opera and Women (in Music, in Red), - Song is not relevant. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:48, 27 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Source	Significant?	Independent?	Reliable?	Secondary?	Pass/Fail	Notes
Le Monde	N	Y	Y	Y	N	Non-notable award that receives only a half sentence of coverage in the article. The article is mainly about another person who won a different award which is notable. Fails WP:SIGCOV.
Anaclase.com review	N	Y	Y	Y	N	Article is primarily a review of Laurent Cuniot and the TM+ ensemble at the Maison de la musique. Isshiki is only mentioned in passing, and the paragraph she is in is primarily not about her performance but about the song cycle by Jonathan Harvey. Fails WP:SIGCOV.
recital at prod-s.com	N	N	Y	N	N	The PROD-S company is the production company which produced the recital concert by Ishki. As they are a production team directly connected to the recital, and promote their events on their website this lacks both independence and significance. Fails WP:SIGCOV.
recording	N	N	Y	N	N	Vendor selling Isshiki's CD. Does nothing but verify a recording exists. It does not provide any information on the recording, and the website also lacks independence as it is selling a product featuring the subject. Fails WP:SIGCOV.
KAOLI ISSHIKI at ruhrtriennale.de	Y	N	Y	N	N	Artist bio at the website of Festival der Kunste which employed the singer. These bios are usually written by the subject or their paid talent management agency. Lacks independence. Fails WP:SIGCOV.
Ensemble William Byrd	N	N	Y	N	N	Isshiki is listed as one of four sopranos in a chamber choir on the website of the choir itself. This is either neither independent or significant coverage. Fails WP:SIGCOV.
KAOLI ISSHIKI at ludusmodalis.com	Y	N	Y	N	N	Artist bio at the website of the Ludus Modalis website which employs the singer. These bios are usually written by the subject or their paid talent management agency. Lacks independence. Fails WP:SIGCOV.
Review at musica-dei-donum.org	Y	Y	N	Y	N	Review from a WP:SELFPUBLISHED non-notable blog. Not a reliable source. Fails WP:SIGCOV.
Philharmonie de Paris	N	N	Y	N	N	Performance archive of the Philharmonie de Paris. Verifies she performed with the orchestra in a primary source, but this is neither significant or independent. Fails WP:SIGCOV.
BBC Proms	N	N	Y	N	N	Performance archive of the BBC proms. Verifies she performed with the BBC proms in a primary source, but this is neither significant or independent. Fails WP:SIGCOV.
Voce.de	N	?	N	N	N	Voce.de is a WP:SELFPUBLISHED personal website of Hans-Josef Kasper. Not reliable. May or may not be independent. No way to tell with a self-published source. Fails WP:SIGCOV.
Brusseks Philharmonic	N	N	Y	N	N	Website of the Brussels Philharmonic. It's the orchestra's performance archive and is both a primary source and lacks independence from the subject as the orchestra employed her. Can be used to verify the performance but is not usable towards proving notability. Fails WP:SIGCOV.
Res Musica review	N	Y	Y	Y	N	This is an independent secondary source, but Isshiki's performance is only given a half sentence of attention. It is not in-depth enough to be considered significant. Fails WP:SIGCOV.
conservatoire-orchestre.caen.fr/	N	N	Y	N	N	This is an advertisement with ticket sale pricing and links for purchasing. It is not a review, not independent, and not significant coverage. Fails WP:SIGCOV.
musicweb-international.com	N	Y	Y	Y	N	This is an independent review of album on which Isshiki performs on a couple songs as a guest artist. However, her performance was not reviewed at all by the reviewer who did not mention her at all in the review. She is only listed as a performer on the couple songs to which she contributed. Without any text reviewing her work, this is not in-depth coverage. Fails WP:SIGCOV.
French Anthologies	N	Y	Y	Y	N	This is an independent review in a reliable secondary source. However, the review of Isshiki's performance is only a half sentence long. It's not in-depth enough to constitute significant coverage. Fails WP:SIGCOV.
www.recordsinternational.com	N	N	Y	N	N	This is the website of a record label selling one its albums. Not independent nor significant. Fails WP:SIGCOV.
Total qualifying sources					0	There must be multiple qualifying sources to meet the notability requirements

I am travelling, and busy with other subjects, sorry for a late reply. Thank you for diligent analysis of sources, 4meter4. My issue is that it sees every item only on its own, not in context.

Of course there are, in general, biographies around that were written by the person in question or by a publicity specialist, but in this case I see the things mentioned there (studies in Europe, award, performances, recordings) also supported by trustworthy other references. I also don't see any items in the biography (which is repeated by other sites) that I'd consider far-fetched or sensational claims.

I see a singer performing in high quality and in teams, be it ensemble or with other soloists. I like that approach. I see her performing the lesser-performed music, both old and new, and would like to showcase that instead of deleting it. As John pointed out (below), there are different ways to establish notability according to Wikipedia:Notability (music). --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:49, 29 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I found this Amazon listing which has her credited on all but one track. The main artist seems to be Pascal Dusapin. Then I found that her artist page at Amazon has four albums listed, one of which is under her own name. Here is another listing, from the Ensemble Vocal de Pontoise.Wikipedia:Notability (music) says our benchmarks for a standalone article on a musician include "Has released two or more albums on a major record label or on one of the more important indie labels (i.e., an independent label with a history of more than a few years, and with a roster of performers, many of whom are independently notable)." Maguelone (her record label) claims to have released work by Reynaldo Hahn and André Jolivet, who are independently notable, and to have been around since 1993. Overall, (and the coverage of her prize in a major French media source counts too) I think that this artist (just) meets WP:NMG, so I think this is a (fairly weak) keep from me. John (talk) 20:59, 28 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: I'm giving this discussion another relisting. But right now, I see no support for deletion other than the nominator.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 02:53, 3 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Delete: The article lacks mention of significant coverage or critical acclaim. There is also no information provided regarding the subject's record sales, chart placements, or awards, despite claims to the contrary. Fails WP:SIGCOV.--— MimsMENTOR ^talk 07:44, 10 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Record sales, chart placements: not relevant for classical music. Recordings are, and recordings are there. Gerda Arendt (talk) 11:03, 10 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The SNG is tied to the notability of the record label. Albums made with an obscure small record label probably aren't notable. It's not like she recorded for a significant classical music label like Decca, Naxos, or Deutsche Gramophone which have international distribution. We don't even have an article on the label she recorded with which is telling. It looks to me like she is only active with a tiny French independent record label that doesn't appear all that notable. 4meter4 (talk) 17:49, 10 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Final relisting. Comments on the sources provided would be helpful.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, voorts (talk/contributions) 02:14, 11 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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