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Archive 2 (January 2010 and Earlier)

The WikiProject Novels Newsletter - November 2008

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Zabag kingdom

Heads up after your wikibreak. Take a look at this article as it falls under your area of interest. :) --Bluemask (talk) 09:40, 23 November 2008 (UTC)

I'm afraid I have very limited knowledge about the Zabag kingdom, and even fewer credible sources. And I am not yet absolutely sure how credible Paul Manansala's blog is as a source. So I'm not sure what to do with this. Any suggestions? -- Alternativity (talk) 05:20, 27 November 2008 (UTC)

Michael Tan

I have no problem with you creating a stub article about this man (I am only an admin and have only the editorial control that this implies). As I am sure you know, an artcle should be verifiable, with references and/or citations where appropriate, and should not breach copyright law. Happy wikying. --Anthony.bradbury^"talk" 12:37, 4 December 2008 (UTC)

Category:Magazines established in 1985

I notice that this category you created is unpopulated (empty). In other words, no Wikipedia pages belong to it. If it remains unpopulated for four days, it may be deleted, without discussion, in accordance with Wikipedia:Criteria for speedy deletion#C1. I'm notifying you in case you wish to (re-)populate it by adding [[Category:Magazines established in 1985]] to articles/categories that belong in it.

I blanked the category page. This will not, in itself, cause the category to be deleted. It serves to document (in the page history) that the category was empty at the time of blanking and also to alert other watchers that the category is in jeopardy. You are welcome to revert the blanking if you wish. However, doing so will not prevent deletion if the category remains empty.

If you created the category in error, or it is no longer needed, you can speed up the deletion process by tagging it with {{db-author}}.

--Stepheng3 (talk) 21:42, 10 February 2009 (UTC)

I believe I created that article and placed Sunday Inquirer Magazine under it, and then someone decided, without consultation, to merge that article with the Philippine Daily Inquirer. Much to my irritation. But there weren't many reliable sources about the Sunday Inquirer Magazine in the first place, so I didn't fight it at the time. I'm not going to fight this either, although I'd be very suprised if there were no other magazines established in 1985. What a horrible year that must have been if that's the case. If I ever pick up the energy again to create a more extensive profile of the Sunday Inquirer Magazine, I'll just recreate the article and recreate the category. In the meantime I won't complain if its deleted, and will just sit here licking my wounds. haha. -- Alternativity (talk) 04:22, 11 February 2009 (UTC)

Swords

Sorry, not too familiar with most of those weapons but I can try. I'm familiar with the kris as a stabbing weapon (mostly). The wavy pattern is supposed to increase the cutting edge without compromising the weapon's length so using it would be akin to either dagger-fighting or even close to Western fencing.. The dahong palay sounds similar to those tools used by gardeners locally, which based on their shape and handling, I'd say could either be used as throwing blades (smaller ones) and/or as butterfly swords (chinese-styled). Sounds like a smaller chinese Dao. The kampilan kinda looks like a straighter saber, although it's a lot smaller/less massive than the comparatively-shaped falchion...but I'd say it's wielded the same way. Wide, arcing swings with a lot of weight and force being committed into each strike. The panabas on the other hand looks to me like the Egyptian khopesh...a bit primitive, combination axe-blade and unwieldy. Even the lack of a pommel/cross-guard seems to suggest that this isn't a dueling/combat weapon so if it *was* used in combat, it probably had to be in conjunct with a blocking apparatus like a shield (more probable) or a parrying blade. Hope this stuff helps! :P Shrumster (talk) 19:36, 14 February 2009 (UTC)

Ooh, sorry. Might be out of town around the 20th, depending on my mom. I do all my martial stuff freestyle - no affiliation with any school or style whatsoever. Nothing formal either. :P Shrumster (talk) 15:59, 15 February 2009 (UTC)

The WikiProject Novels Newsletter - March 2009

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March 2009

I noticed that you have posted comments to the page Culture of the Philippines in a language other than English. When on the English-language Wikipedia, please always use English, no matter to whom you address your comments. This is so that comments may be comprehensible to the community at large. If the use of another language is unavoidable, please provide a translation of the comments. For more details, see Wikipedia:Talk page guidelines. Thank you. As per: "Mga repapips, wag naman na po tayong magvandal todits. Bad trip eh" in this edit summary: http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Culture_of_the_Philippines&curid=364149&diff=275776047&oldid=275770384 Actually, I can understand it, but not all can. ;) Xeltran (talk) 09:43, 8 March 2009 (UTC)

Point taken. Naasar lang ako (I just got irritated), and I ran out of space for the translation. (Naubusan ako ng espasyo para sa pagsasalingwika.) Oh well... ;-) -- Alternativity (talk) 09:48, 8 March 2009 (UTC)

Ah, don't worry, mate. The page's in my watchlist anyway. Thanks for cleaning it up. Anyway, if you like to, you can always ask for page protection should the need arises. Xeltran (talk) 09:54, 8 March 2009 (UTC)

You know, that page still needs serious work :-D The thing with protection is, it does prevent well meaning first time anon editors from making good edits. And I think that's worth the irritation brought about by the pageblanking/expletive-adding/self-advertising/general defacing crowd. :-D Hehe. Thanks for watching over this page too. I think it's a pretty darn important page. I'm sure you do too. Thanks, too, for that. -- Alternativity (talk) 10:52, 8 March 2009 (UTC)

Condolence letter

Thanks! Posted my own comment at the Tambay talk page. --Anyo Niminus (talk) 09:58, 9 March 2009 (UTC)

Kaleidoscope Pattern Barnstar

		Kaleidoscope Pattern Commemorative Barnstar
		Alternativity, I award you this Kaleidoscope Pattern commemorating the passing of Francis Magalona. It is given in recognition of your tireless efforts to improve the Francis Magalona article, and protect it from vandalism, honoring the memory of "the man from Manila" who believed in freedom and respect amidst diversity, just like the wiki way. --Jojit (talk) 03:30, 11 March 2009 (UTC) Every color and every hue is represented by me and you. Take a slide in the slope. Take a look in the kaleidoscope. Spinnin’ round, make it twirl in this kaleidoscope world! -- Francis Magalona (1964 - 2009)

Jojit! Thank you! This means so much to me. Thank you. -- Alternativity (talk) 06:06, 11 March 2009 (UTC)

On the Francis M Barnstar

Just doing my job as an editor. Thanks for the Barnstar! --Eaglestorm (talk) 04:07, 11 March 2009 (UTC)

Thanks for the Barnstar, much appreciated. --Anyo Niminus (talk) 07:13, 11 March 2009 (UTC)

well i would like to say that Francis MAgalona also hosted a show in QTV 11 that show is "FAM JAM" I believe it was co-hosted by Maxene as well..it is a contest of families showing of their talent together...so I hope you can include that on Francis' list of tv appearances/shows. Thanks. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Mushymushroom (talk • contribs) 09:12, 11 March 2009 (UTC)

You could do it yourself, if you have a source you can cite. :-D That's the entire beauty of Wikipedia! :-D I just happened to have done a LOT of editing on that page, but I certainly don't have a monopoly. People of "Every color, every hue" can edit Wikipedia. And yes, that's "Represented by Me and You." Go on... edit. :-D ("Just think, will this pen ever run out of ink? Yeah? Use a pencil." - Pen and Ink) -- Alternativity (talk) 15:07, 11 March 2009 (UTC)

Thanks. Here.

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Re: Eddie Panlilio

Lucky you. I woke up just right now (5:20 AM). In my dream I was taking up law or some other law-related subject... but sir Floro was in our class, and he was the instructor.

Well I do remember learning something, but I never expected him to manifest in my unconscious with just one comment, hehe. --Aeon17x (talk) 21:48, 22 March 2009 (UTC)

Lesser Song again

Do you have a link to the OR board regarding this source? I could remove the unreliable source but I need that link to justify it.--Lenticel ^(talk) 06:59, 26 March 2009 (UTC)

Hi! The WP:NOR discussion has been archived and can be found at Wikipedia:No_original_research/noticeboard/Archive_4#Luzon_Empire_and_Ancient_Tondo, and there's another relevant discussion at Wikipedia:Reliable_sources/Noticeboard/Archive_20#Luzon_Empire_vs_Ancient_Tondo. -- Alternativity (talk) 11:21, 26 March 2009 (UTC)

Invitation

Hello, I noticed you've made edits to University of the Philippines (UP) and UP–related articles and thought you might want to support our recent proposal to create the WikiProject University of the Philippines. We've recently revamped the proposal and started a drive to push the approval of this project. We have a lot of articles that may be under this project and we would like assistance and support for its approval. Hope we'll have a very positive response. Go Fighting Maroons!

P.S. You can look at the preliminary drafts of the project in here. Thanks! --The Wandering Traveler^{WIKIPROJECT UNIVERSITY OF THE PHILIPPINES NEEDS YOUR SUPPORT!} 06:36, 19 May 2009 (UTC)

WikiProject Novels - Coordinator Election

Hello. To begin, every member of WikiProject Novels will be getting this message (the joy of macros) so if you wish to get in touch with me, please post a message on my talk page. I would encourage anyone who so wishes, to stand in the Coordinator Elections. If you wish to stand, please do so by 23:59pm, June 27. Voting will the continue to 23:59pm, July 21. Can everyone please check-out the Coordinator Elections page. Also, the collaboration of the month is The Tin Drum, so if you have any spare time, please check it out. And I apologise to the seven of you for whom this will be a repeat message. Regards, Alan16 (talk).

Coordinator Election

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Regards, Alan16 (talk) 19:45, 29 June 2009 (UTC).

Regarding the Kingdom of Tondo

I will put the part about the tondo being the capital of Luzon Empire on the alternativity Luzon Empire page page later...Kasumi-genx (talk) 05:56, 16 July 2009 (UTC)

I also made a mirror page/draft page in my account where I will add more information,especially about Luzon Empire later onKasumi-genx (talk) 05:56, 16 July 2009 (UTC)

Hi Kasumi-genx. I'm was only keeping that archive to help me identify the sources associated with the old article as I monitor "Luzon Empire" references in other articles. (I don't speak Chinese, so to disprove the Chinese-origin theory, I had to go ask for help - I didn't want to do that again.) The proposed "Lesser Song/Luzon Empire" has been established as conjecture (a "fringe theory") as per Wikipedia:No Original Research. You're right, there's a Kapampangan, not Chinese, kingdom that existed before the arrival of the Spanish, but that is under the article Kingdom of Tondo. I suggest you bring up THE BIG QUESTION of whether Tondo was Kapampangan or Tagalog at talk:Kingdom of Tondo. But all my readings so far suggest the Kingdom of Tondo was Kapampangan, not Tagalog, and the area we now know as Tondo was just taken over by Tagalog culture later on. I deleted the rest of that archive because it just kept the Chinese origin theory alive. Hope you don't mind.

I don't know any kapampangan for now,but I believe that the people in Bataan,Bulacan and other areas where kapampangan was once spoken should not alienate their kapampangan heritage and kapampangans should not alienate the former even if they are now speaking tagalog,I don't really care what is my ethnic/tribal affiliations either (I think many pinoys think that way) but for me it is important to conserve and improve the local culture(s) of towns and areas we have,I think pinoys are more town-centric than ethnocentric..Kasumi-genx (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 06:29, 19 July 2009 (UTC).

Indigenous Tagalog Names List

please check this first please.. http://www.geocities.com/pampgen/capampangan.htm Kasumi-genx (talk)

Well, this belongs on my. talk page, but thank you. I haven't been able to update this section in a while because I settled on tentative names for the Novel's characters already, but the site will be helpful as I write. Thank you. :-D -- Alternativity (talk) 04:18, 18 July 2009 (UTC)

I am also creating a story about pre-hispanic luzon.Kasumi-genx (talk)

Wow. Wanna trade reference lists? :-D Mine's on my main page under the heading "Reference Collection." I can even update it a bit if you like. :-D What's YOUR take on it? Mine's Alternative Mythology, playing off the myths of Maria Makiling, the Lady of Laguna de Bay, Bernardo Carpio, and some of the Lower Mythology creatures in conjunction with legends of how these places came to be settled. -- Alternativity (talk) 08:08, 19 July 2009 (UTC)

Also, there's another list of Indigenous Filipino names at http://www.bibingka.com/names/ --Alternativity (talk) 08:13, 19 July 2009 (UTC)

Talkback

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The WikiProject Novels Newsletter - July 2009

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WikiProject Novels - August 2009 Newsletter

The August 2009 issue of the Novels WikiProject newsletter has been published. You may read the newsletter, change the format in which future issues will be delivered to you, or unsubscribe from this notification by following the link. Thank you. Alan16 (talk) 17:21, 22 August 2009 (UTC)

Regarding the Northern Cordilleran Languages

Northern Cordilleran Languages look like relexified Central Luzon Languages....Kasumi-genx (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 03:53, 27 August 2009 (UTC).

I'm not actually any kind of language expert... care to give me the links that will demonstrate what you mean? :-D I AM curious. :-D Have you gotten in touch with Chritopher Sundita, btw? -- Alternativity (talk) 04:20, 27 August 2009 (UTC)

Not really but I had seen similarities between Kapampangan and Ibanag or other Northern Cordilleran languages,I had seen more similarities between Northern Cordilleran Languages on grammatical side or on the particles although many words of of Northern Cordilleran are similar to Ilocano,I even think that Northern Cordilleran and Kapampangan had a dialect continuum you can check on Gaddang and Kapampangan,I once classified Philippine Languages on basis of Pronouns and Northern Cordilleran Languages fit on the same classification as kapampangan...

Kasumi-genx (talk) 08:04, 27 August 2009 (UTC)

I discovered the answer, the philippine idioms had a dialect continuum that is the reason why adjacent idioms tend to be similar.--Kasumi-genx (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 10:37, 10 December 2009 (UTC).

Usage of Kita?

1.Kita-I_You
2.Kita-They,dual pronoun

I think Kita is an an analogy of Daka that is used by the Northern Tagalogs who used to speak Kapampangan.Kasumi-genx (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 08:37, 27 August 2009 (UTC).

Speedy deletion nomination of Carlo Caparas

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2009 National Artist of the Philippines controversy

Bizarre, worthy of WP:ODD. Bearian (talk) 22:53, 2 September 2009 (UTC)

Manila 5

You're going? --Bluemask (talk) 03:58, 7 September 2009 (UTC)

Looks increasingly unlikely -- just got back from a long trip yesterday and my post-trip health seems to indicate I won't be able to make it to another manila trip that soon after travel. :-S

So sad. I can't do another VA again. --Bluemask (talk) 09:28, 9 September 2009 (UTC)

I have lots of ethnic Phil. swords, just tell me what you need :)

Hello :)

I'm new here in the world of Wikipedia editing (and I'm in Manila by the way). And my passion is collecting ethnic (antique and vintage) Philippine swords and knives. Thus my plan is to write as many articles as possible about them in Wikipedia, and use as photo references the ones in my collection (or any other legitimately available resources in the Internet).

So in case you need any pics or images, just please tell me and I'll find out if I have them, or alternatively where I think you can find them.

For one, this international ethnic swords and blades forum is a very good resource.

The antique Filipino ethic blades recently displayed for instance at the Macao museum exhibit came from the collectors in that forum.

Me ["migueldiaz", in that forum] and a few other Pinoys and Fil-Ams are active in that forum. Some of the threads there I contributed a lot are: Origin of the Kampilan?; Origin of the kalinga axe; and Of bolo rush & bolomen.

There's a lot of things to be rediscovered in the Philippines' past. And I thought that one area to focus on would be the wonderful world of Philippine blades.

And I hope that we can do some form of collaboration in developing articles related to those :)

Lorenz Lasco Email: filhistory@gmail.com Mobile: +63.917.582-1208

PS - By the way, my own little contribution to enlarging the consciousness of Filipinos to their past would be through this website I've just started. Hope you can visit it.

--Filhistorydotcom (talk) 01:06, 23 September 2009 (UTC)

Hi, it's me again. I've just uploaded under this category Krieger's important 1926 work on Philippine swords and blades, i.e., the 21 'plates' or photos of ethnic Fil. weapons. Just fyi =) --Filhistorydotcom (talk) 23:42, 25 September 2009 (UTC)

Hello, more antique and ethnic Philippine swords just uploaded here --Filhistory.com is my blog on Philippine ethnic weapons 11:19, 3 October 2009 (UTC)

Hi. Wow, this is good news. Unfortunately "real life" and a few other projects have kept me occupied lately. I hope to be back from my wikibreak soon, and will be able to return to give the much-needed attention due to pre-colonial Philippine history articles. In the meantime, I do congratulate you on your good work. The pictures are excellent and I feel gratified that someone is also doing work on articles I very much care about. Thank you.

Yours, R.E. de Leon, Alternativity (talk) 18:18, 12 October 2009 (UTC)

Luzon is not the original name of Luzon

http://theislandsofpearls.blogspot.com/2009/10/sulu-original-luzon.html -Kasumi-genx (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 10:35, 10 December 2009 (UTC).

If that's a well-documented enough theory, I think the creation of sections in relevant articles would be in order. I don't quite buy it yet myself, but if this has been put forward by reliable historian in refereed journal, then I think you should create the relevant sections. Mind you, though, refereed history journals.-- Alternativity (talk) 10:54, 10 December 2009 (UTC)

Unreferenced BLPs

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Proposed deletion of Luções

The article Luções has been proposed for deletion because of the following concern:

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