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Wrong person.[edit]

I wasn't the one who added "feck", I added the Red vs Blue note onto "fucktard", you must've looked at the wrong editor. Thanks anyway. ;) -- Viewdrix 18:27, 6 August 2006 (UTC)

My bad, sorry about that. I should check more closely. Cheers.--Anchoress 22:03, 6 August 2006 (UTC)

Gay penguins[edit]

From ANI: Cool. Sorry to bother you guys.--Anchoress 02:34, 7 August 2006 (UTC)

Not a bother at all! It could easily have been viewed as vandalism and some rogue admin would have just deleted the redirect. Many thanks for bringing it up at ANI. Indeed, here's a few penguins. -- Samir धर्म 07:32, 7 August 2006 (UTC)
Aaawwww, my first penguins!! Thanks!--Anchoress 07:42, 7 August 2006 (UTC)

Kiki Carter[edit]

Hello. You posted a tag on the Kiki Carter page, suggesting that the article needs copyediting. Would you please be more specific as to the type of copyediting you feel it needs. Thank you. Eaglefeather11 15:51, 7 August 2006 (UTC)

Yes. As you can see, the article needs to have fixed the following: a) inconsistent abbreviation; b) missing or extra spaces; c) misplaced, missing or extra punctuation.--Anchoress 16:14, 7 August 2006 (UTC)

Thanks much!Eaglefeather11

Vandalism or carelessness[edit]

Hi, On your user page I see "My dog submissive pees for lesbians, and HATES people in motorised wheelchairs" As this doesn't make sense as a sentance (at least to me) I'm drawing it to your attention. AllanHainey 15:27, 9 August 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for the heads-up. It's neither vandalism nor carelessness, but I'm sorry it doesn't make sense to you. Perhaps if I put 'submissive pees' in quotations, because it's a kind of dog behaviour lingo that is accurate even though it's not conventional conjugation for the context. If I remember I'll change it to make it more clear.--Anchoress 15:33, 9 August 2006 (UTC)

of oars and forks[edit]

"poke a fork in it" isn't exactly the tone I was hoping for, even on talkpages. My contribution consisted precislely in moving the unhappy section out of the way because it has no place on RD. Thus, apart from stylistic matters, we seem to be in agreement. I certainly won't mind if you remove the section altogether. dab () 06:24, 12 August 2006 (UTC)

Yeah, well I guess we each disapprove of the other person's mode of self-expression? Because I thought your comments were completely unnecessary and hence inflammatory. I agree with your choice to move the section and your reasons, and I shall go ahead and delete the whole thing. --Anchoress 06:29, 12 August 2006 (UTC)
BTW, just wanted to make sure you understand that 'poke a fork in it' is a completely non-offensive English metaphor comparing an issue to dinner? As in, 'Poke a fork in him, Greg Norman's done like dinner as far as this tournament is concerned.' It isn't pejorative, and it's not akin to saying 'put a sock in it'.Anchoress 06:35, 12 August 2006 (UTC)
I'd have to agree here. Poke a fork in it is even a bit on the silly side of saying things, its not an insult in any way. I agree that removal was the best thing here. The comments didn't have anything to do with the reference desk, and hopefully their removal will allow the arguers to forgot about it. Hopefully. I'm really being hopeful since I see signs of tempers, but I'm assuming good faith until then. Good job both of you. pschemp | talk 06:57, 12 August 2006 (UTC)
Thanks for the note, pschemp. BTW, how did you ever end up in my quiet little corner of the 'pedia?--Anchoress 07:06, 12 August 2006 (UTC)
I'm a science geek. :) I keep an eye on the reference desk all the time, just don't usually post. pschemp | talk 07:16, 12 August 2006 (UTC)
Sweet! Happy editing. Anchoress 07:20, 12 August 2006 (UTC)

Ugly words[edit]

You like smegma?!??! --14:01, 16 August 2006 (UTC)

Yeah, I love the way it rrrrolls off the tongue. ;-) Anchoress 23:15, 16 August 2006 (UTC)
Oh, I can't decide if the entendre is double or triple. Anyway, when are you going to remove that comment from your user page? I'm afraid it still bothers me enormously, despite your explanations. --Dweller 09:02, 17 August 2006 (UTC)
I don't plan to remove it, at least not without a convincing reason. I suggest that if it bothers you, don't read it any more. Besides, you said above, "It's no problem for me, I'm quite broad-minded. I'm just saying how it can be read." Anchoress 09:48, 17 August 2006 (UTC)
I was trying very hard. Particularly sice from the noises you were making, you seemed reasonable and prepared to remove it. My mistake. I am trying (very) hard not to rant (honestly). But I find each of the following elements problematic (the first is the one I have most trouble with):
  • that you find a Jewish source hilarious
  • that you can't name that source
  • that referring to it as "the Jewish annals of notable Jews", makes it sound somehow "official"
  • that Google's only ref to ""the Jewish annals of notable Jews" brings up your user pages

Sorry. Actually, perhaps what bothers me most is that you seem so (otherwise) likeable. --10:55, 17 August 2006 (UTC)

  • I regret that it bothers you, and to be clear I never indicated I was going to remove it.
  • I don't recall making any noises at all.
  • I understand that you find me likeable, that is flattering but possibly inaccurate.
  • You are welcome to rant on my talk page.
  • I believe that I am not obligated to provide sources that satisfy you or other editors for content on my user page.
  • I don't doubt that 'the Jewish annals of notable Jews' doesn't turn up much, since the original is probably in Hebrew or Aramaic.
  • Perhaps the best thing for you to do would be to forget about this, since it is causing you so much distress.
  • Perhaps at some point in the future, I shall explain to you why I find it hilarious. I don't know if it will make you feel better or worse, but if you wish it and if I feel like it I may do so.
  • I empathise with you because there are some things on other people's user pages that bother me quite a bit too.
  • I find your persistence disturbing, to tell you the truth you're starting to give me the creeps.
Anchoress 11:29, 17 August 2006 (UTC)

No wish to give you the creeps. I'm still bothered. Glad you empathise. I'm gone. --Dweller 11:39, 17 August 2006 (UTC)

Bye-bye. Anchoress 12:07, 17 August 2006 (UTC)

There is no such book. JonathanPenton 07:35, 25 August 2006 (UTC)

Hi Jonathan; how did you come to this conversation? Especially since there's a more specific one above? Thanks for the info anyway, but I believe my friend over you, no offence. Anchoress 07:42, 25 August 2006 (UTC)
No offence taken; that is natural. I reckon at some point you'll come to the conclusion that the matter bears further investigation on your part; I would expect my input to have only the smallest effect on that eventuality. To answer your question, I happened upon this conversation when studying the Publicgirluk thing. JonathanPenton 07:57, 25 August 2006 (UTC)
OK, cheers. Anchoress 08:02, 25 August 2006 (UTC)

Reference desk comments[edit]

Regarding the question on street prostitutes: very well said. Pretty well sums up my viewpoints on the topic as well. Glad to know I'm not alone in that thinking! Tony Fox (arf!) 16:05, 17 August 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for the comment! It's a pet issue of mine. Anchoress 16:09, 17 August 2006 (UTC)


Thank you for going over the caffeine article. I've been staring at it for so long that I'm likely to miss lots of little (or not so little) errors and omissions. – ClockworkSoul 06:08, 20 August 2006 (UTC)

No probs, it looks awesome actually. I left some notes on the talk page, and if you check the edit summaries there are some explanations and questions. I'll be back to check it again soon. Cheers, --Anchoress 06:31, 20 August 2006 (UTC)
You've made some very useful observations, thank you! I'm going to do what I can to make the article as close to perfect as is possible. If you can find the reference regarding the illegality of adding extra caffeine to soda in Canada, I would be most grateful. Cheers! – ClockworkSoul 06:39, 20 August 2006 (UTC)
No probs, glad to be of help. I found the info, it's on the talk page. Anchoress 06:47, 20 August 2006 (UTC)

Hi there[edit]

Well, I've seen you at the Desks, and page histories often, and I was wondering if there was any chance you work at a university? I am looking for somebody that can send me papers because I can't subscribe to every single journal on the internet like universities do. :D Thanks, — [Mac Davis] (talk)

No, sorry. But good luck though. Is there maybe a category for that? Anchoress 22:52, 24 August 2006 (UTC)
Don't think so. User:ClockworkSoul agreed to help me. — [Mac Davis] (talk)
That's great. He'll help you I'm sure, he's a great guy. Anchoress 23:24, 25 August 2006 (UTC)


So do you want to start uploading pics of ourselves in the manner of User:Publicgirluk? I think I would do one to add to the "Anal Sex" article. What about you?Courtney Akins 01:58, 27 August 2006 (UTC)

I wouldn't mind, but I'm unpartnered at present. Good luck though. Anchoress 02:12, 27 August 2006 (UTC)

In case this isn't on your watchlist...[edit]

Do you have any thoughts on Talk:Scott Walker (singer)? Thanks. --Cherry blossom tree 22:48, 27 August 2006 (UTC)

Yeah I saw your reply but I haven't looked at the diffs yet. Hopefully the editor who you've indicated has made some sweeping edits will weigh in. Anchoress 23:25, 27 August 2006 (UTC)
Hi Cherry blossom tree: I trust you've seen my post to the talk page? I hope it meets with your approval. I think it's best to go easy with this one since it seems good faith attempts to clean up the purple prose have been reverted before, and a revert war between four editors isn't any more pleasant than one between two. :-) I hope that the prior warning of impending trimming will preclude reverts (fingers crossed!). It is regrettable that Andrew is somewhat uncivil, but IMO there's no point in belabouring it at present since he doesn't seem to hold WP policies and guidelines in high regard (at present). Let's continue to WP:AGF and keep our fingers crossed, and hopefully this article will clean up without too much agony. :-) Anchoress 10:14, 30 August 2006 (UTC)
Yeah, I've no intention of starting an edit war, don't worry. I think your approach sounds wise, especially since Andrew doesn't seem too keen on editing in a standard manner. If there's anything I can do to help, I'm happy to. I think it's probably best to just have a look over it once you're finished, to avoid getting in the way. Thanks. --Cherry blossom tree 18:42, 30 August 2006 (UTC)
Cool. He's asked me to wait until August 31, and there are other editors working on it too, I think he's got the picture now. It would be so nice to get some sources. Anchoress 01:26, 31 August 2006 (UTC)
I may be able to help out with sources - I'll see what I can lay my hands on. --Cherry blossom tree 18:40, 31 August 2006 (UTC)
That's great. Anchoress 18:59, 31 August 2006 (UTC)

What happened to the 'dense material' thread? It's totally gone, and it was only a day or two old.[edit]

?? The one about ankle weights. I can't even find it in the edit history. Anchoress 19:06, 31 August 2006 (UTC)

  • Sorry about that, transclusion error, to my knowledge, it's the first such mix up since I've taken over the transcluding, and has now been corrected. The question should now be visible under the "August 30" header-- 21:03, 31 August 2006 (UTC)

You, and stuff[edit]

Thank you sincerely for all of your help with caffeine. I would also like to state, for the record, that Severus Snape is a badass, and a worthy recipient of a crush. ;) – ClockworkSoul 15:00, 5 September 2006 (UTC)

Barnstar-atom3.png The E=MC² Barnstar
I, ClockworkSoul, hereby award you with the nifty purple barnstar for all of the work that you put into helping to raise caffeine to featured article status!
Aaw, how cool! My first barnstar!! Anchoress 15:37, 5 September 2006 (UTC)

Signpost -- Italian interwiki report[edit]


If you think that the article needs copyediting, please do it -- the usual way. If in doubt about details of the article please contact the authors (Gia.cossa and Under). Kpjas 18:25, 7 September 2006 (UTC)

OH ok thanks, I wasn't sure if it was OK to do that. Will do. Anchoress 18:52, 7 September 2006 (UTC)

== Your IQ ==[edit]

Your IQ is amazing! Is there any websites where I can do an IQ test? I have been wanting to know mine. Caleb09 01:12, 16 September 2006 (UTC)

Thanks. There probably are, but mine is from tests in HS. Good luck! Anchoress 01:14, 16 September 2006 (UTC)

I think I have a high one..because I was reading books about the theory of relativity and astronomy in hmmm....4th grade? lol Caleb09 01:37, 16 September 2006 (UTC)

Fiction v. nonfiction[edit]

Re: User talk:CaptainXel, that blunt "Actually you're wrong Durova" was pretty harsh, especially since my advice was correct. This editor wants to sell a novel, not a nonfiction book. Your understanding is correct for nonfiction, but an unknown novelist needs a complete manuscript.[1] What worries me about the advice you offered is that it's the sort of mistake that not only leads to automatic rejection but might prevent a novelist from getting a second chance with a publisher. Durova 20:38, 19 September 2006 (UTC)

Durova, you're absolutely wrong, I'm sorry. I am a published author, and I know from my own experience, along with many, many documented instances in reputable books on fiction writing that you do NOT have to have a completed manuscript. The quote you provided is the first time I have ever seen an expert advise that a completed manuscript is required, or even preferred. In 'The Writer's Market' and other books I've read, all the agents and publishers I've seen ask for the first three chapters and a detailed synopsis in their submission guidelines, they never ask for the whole work, and they don't ask whether or not it's finished. Anchoress 22:00, 19 September 2006 (UTC)

German Wiki[edit]

German Wiki

Some people try to delete category:Wikipedian support gay community: please help GLGerman 14:05, 24 September 2006 (UTC)

Sorry, I don't know how. Anchoress 19:01, 24 September 2006 (UTC)

Re Scott Walker[edit]

I don't agree that these are personal points of view. The discussion page is where we have been discussing this article. I don't appreciate all this work being wiped at your whim. I don't like the editing style adopted. I don't get where you are coming from in a historic literary context, which is what encyclopedic writing is based on. I will revert the text if you don't respond why you think you know better than me how to write. You did not add anything positive to the discussion while the work was in progress except your last claim about typos. You then just wiped out all that work that has been worked over repeatedly and for which there are perfectly good references provided in the discussion page. The other editors appear mollified.

To begin with, you seem to mistake PPOV with impersonal observations. That is why you presumably took out the "reportorial" observation about Walker's early recordings. This shows you don't understand literary or conventional styles of writing in this genre. A reporter does not necessarily provide a personal point of view when he reports an observation or a record of an event as it would strike any unbiased observer. That is his role, to convey clear information and impressions. This is both a neutral POV and the basis of western historical writing going back to Herodotus and Thucydides. This is a stylistic and philosphic manner(ism. Also, please don't fall into the trap of mistaking it for "original" material. It is impersonal observation that adds complexity to a report like this because it presents Walker in in another light from the general tone of the rest. It provides balance and depth. It also helps to avoid hagiography. If Karl Marx were once a devout little Jewish boy who sang regularly at Synagogue do you think that would not be a relevant fact to include in his bio?

What your edit is tending towards is reducing this report to a bland template. This is not the intent of encyclopedic writing, but one one for amateurs to hide behind. You are being officious, even if you don't intend it. This my considered courtesy response. Andrew Hanos. 08:00, 26 September 2006 (UTC)

Sorry to take so long to reply. I'm not able to put time into this right now, but a lot of your edits are just not in line with Wikipedia's editorial style. I'm sorry that you feel so negatively about my contributions to the article, I hope you can accept that I mean the best for the article, the subject and Wikipedia. Perhaps if you edited other articles, you would get a better feel for Wikipedia's editorial style and therefore for my (and other editors') editing priorities. Anchoress 02:02, 9 October 2006 (UTC)

Bend It Like Beckham[edit]

Hi Anchoress -- this is a copy of my reply to your Help Desk question at Wikipedia:Help_desk#Is there a place to post requested moves?. I don't believe a page move is needed; the specific issue with the redlink that you posted was that it needed to be a redirect to the actual article, which is at Bend It Like Beckham. I believe that is the correct capitalization. The film's own poster and web site are no help, since they both show the title in all-caps; however, IMDB, which we usually accept as canonical, shows the title as it presently is in the name of the article. I created a redirect with the redlined title you posted, so it will work as well. Best, --MCB 22:32, 8 October 2006 (UTC)

OK cool. I actually had as much of an issue with all the redirects from mis-spellings and different capitalisations, but someone said that's kopacetic, so I guess the deal's done like dinner. Thanks a heap for the reply. Anchoress 01:59, 9 October 2006 (UTC)

Airport map[edit]

Further to my reply at London Heathrow Airport. If you go to National Air Traffic Services you can get PDF maps of all registered airports in the United Kingdom. You want to look for the "AD Chart". It requires free registration but they don't seem to be spammers. CambridgeBayWeather (Talk) 01:42, 9 October 2006 (UTC)

Yeah I know. I actually have a map in my London A-Z book that shows Heathrow. I didn't post to the talk page because I need help finding Heathrow in the UK, I posted it because I think there should be a map of Greater London in the Heathrow article with Heathrow marked. Anchoress 01:58, 9 October 2006 (UTC)

Firing up about the whole MILF thing & its broader ramifications for women who contribute to the reference desk and the rest of the world generally[edit]

Hi Anchoress, I had a bit of a wikibreak (actually my activity on wikipedia really represents reality breaks) & I just wanted to get back to you and say that I really enjoyed your posts. I sometimes drop off the planet when real life leaves no gaps nad I fear that my sudden "disappearances" my seem a bit snobby, or something. I pretty much figured thats what you were talking about when you mentioned infantilisation, not the weird & slightly sick stuff that you linked to! Or at least I was relieved that what I thought you meant was correct. I realise that in many parts of the world women's rights are essentially null. In my post I was actually referring to the western world. If we worry about the whole world all at once, I think our heads will implode. But you're right - life sucks for an awful lot of women, and for no good reason. I pray it gets better. Cheerio then! Mattopaedia 12:26, 12 October 2006 (UTC)

Thanks a lot, I really appreciate it. Yeah, I should start looking at unfamiliar articles before linking to them lol. Hope your sojourn on Wiki goes well, look forward to bumping into you soon. Anchoress 12:39, 12 October 2006 (UTC)

Reference Desk[edit]

Hola! I'm sorry about seeming fired up on the reference desk, it's just that I've only had an account for a day, and I think I'm doing a lot better than most newbies I've seen. I need help, don't I? AMP'd 22:33, 13 October 2006 (UTC)

Hola, que tal? Hey, you don't have to apologise. I think you're doing great, but I get fired up when people answer questions incorrectly. Sorry if I seemed abrupt, it's my way. Happy editing. Anchoress 22:36, 13 October 2006 (UTC)

Margin setting answer on ref desk[edit]

Great tips. Thanks. (Though it wasn't me that asked the Q). --Dweller 09:19, 26 October 2006 (UTC)

Cheers! Anchoress 09:20, 26 October 2006 (UTC)

List of songs featured in The Simpsons[edit]

I've been tinkering with Talk:List of songs featured in The Simpsons and notice you mention on talk page about an Excel sheet you have. I'd be happy to take and juggle it if you like. I'm thinking for this page there has to be a better way than to list by song and by episode, duplicating the data (and errors) as we go, but no idea what it is. But for the moment, happy to collect any data on offer :) --Mortice 22:43, 26 October 2006 (UTC)

Yeah, sure. Email me at my username at ***, and I'll send it to you. Anchoress 00:12, 27 October 2006 (UTC)

Upcoming template changes[edit]

Hi, I've just noticed that you recently left a templated userpage message. I'm just bringing to your attention that the format and context of these templates will be shortly changing. It is recommended that you visit WikiProject user warnings and harmonisation discussion pages to find out how these changes could affect the templates you use. We also would appreciate any insights or thoughts you may have on the subject. Thanks for your understanding. Best regards Khukri (talk . contribs) 14:47, 27 October 2006 (UTC)

Will do, thanks. Anchoress 14:47, 27 October 2006 (UTC)

Misc error[edit]

Hi - I've replyed on the desk - thanks for bringing it to my attention. It was to do with the bot, and was probably a mediawiki error, or my internet connection. This is one of thr reasons I'm testing on your connection tonight! Thanks, Martinp23 14:37, 29 October 2006 (UTC)

Hey, no probs. So that turnover will be happening at midnight UK time? I'll be asleep then (it'll be 4:00 pacific time but I usually sleep during the day). Should I make a point of getting up to check it? Cuz I can, it won't be a problem. Anchoress 14:45, 29 October 2006 (UTC)
You don't really need to bother to be honest :) - I may (or may not) be online at midnight (UK time) tonight - depends on various things which I won't bore you with! Thanks again for doing this :) Martinp23 14:51, 29 October 2006 (UTC)
K, no probs. I'm totally happy to help in any way I can. Anchoress 15:13, 29 October 2006 (UTC)


I'm sorry I removed some of your text from your user page are you okay with that, oh yeah next time don't you ever call me okay--Cowboy From Hell 16:11, 29 October 2006 (UTC)DJ BatWave

LOL that's funny. But please don't disrupt Wikipedia to make a point. And... let me get this straight. You post your phone number on a public page that potentially millions of people could see, but you don't want people to call you? That doesn't make sense to me. Anyways, happy editing! Anchoress 16:16, 29 October 2006 (UTC)

IE windows[edit]

Thanks very much for the great advice at Wikipedia:Reference desk/Computing, despite my unwittingly rather vague question. --Dweller 16:59, 30 October 2006 (UTC)

Hey, you're welcome! Anchoress 01:23, 31 October 2006 (UTC)

Age in Sig?[edit]

I recently supported your suggestion in the Child Protection debate, and now I'm wondering what you might think about this sig:

I'm not sure this is a real problem, but i don't see it as a good idea at all. --Doc Tropics Message in a bottle 05:52, 31 October 2006 (UTC)

It looks like trolling. I notice a couple of editors commented and the response was kind of hostile, so I think s/he is trying to get a rise. Anchoress 06:11, 31 October 2006 (UTC)
I almost wonder if it's because of the Child Protection debate and recent publicity. Trolls know a hot-button issue when they see one :) --Doc Tropics Message in a bottle 06:16, 31 October 2006 (UTC)
Yeah, could be. Anchoress 07:22, 31 October 2006 (UTC)

Invitation to join WikiProject Environment[edit]

Hi there, I notice your continuing work on recycling. I am seeking to expand the membership of Wikipedia:WikiProject Environment to create a more informed vibrant environmental community on wikipedia. Would you be interested in joining? If so please put your name down on the project page --Alex 13:49, 31 October 2006 (UTC)

Hey thanks for inviting me, I'll definitely join. Anchoress 13:56, 31 October 2006 (UTC)
Welcome to the WikiProject, your support and contributions will be appreciated.--Alex 14:01, 31 October 2006 (UTC)

Reference on Cauliflower[edit]

Thanks for the reference. WVhybrid 19:47, 6 November 2006 (UTC)

NP. :-)) Anchoress 19:59, 6 November 2006 (UTC)

Re: Reference desk[edit]

Thank you! I was pleased to help. The supplement you describe sounds promising. I hope that additional studies will be able to confirm the link that you have found, that side effects can be measured, that efficacy can be measured and doses computed, and that eventually it will be able to reach a much wider population as a pharmaceutical agent. — Knowledge Seeker 07:18, 9 November 2006 (UTC)

Thanks, that's the plan! Anchoress 16:56, 9 November 2006 (UTC)


Why do you think that is the case madame? Hizzizzle 06:45, 11 November 2006 (UTC)

Huh? Anchoress 07:15, 11 November 2006 (UTC)

Guglielmo Clintone[edit]

I sure hope you weren't thinking I was upset by our discussion on WP:ANI. User:Zoe|(talk) 20:14, 12 November 2006 (UTC)

You seemed agitated. Anchoress 21:09, 12 November 2006 (UTC)
I'm sorry if I came across that way, because I truly wasn't. User:Zoe|(talk) 22:28, 12 November 2006 (UTC)
Hey, no problem, and thanks for mentioning it. I was perplexed but not upset by your responses. Cheers. Anchoress 22:30, 12 November 2006 (UTC)


Hi, I noticed you added the BLP template to this page. You probably did this without thinking and you might realise now it was a mistake. But if not, just wanted to tell you it was unnecessary as he was already dead (indeed I believe the article was only created after his death) so obviously it was not a BLP. While we still have to observe BLP when it comes to other living people discussed on his page and we also should obviously try to avoid unsourced material as with all wikipedian articles we don't add the BLP unless the article is itself a BLP. Cheers Nil Einne 03:17, 13 November 2006 (UTC)

Ugh, boy, do I feel like the biggest fucking moron on the face of the planet. And I was so proud of myself for remembering the template name. :-(( Sorry. Geez it wasn't intentional. :-(( My first really big, stupid mistake. Anchoress 04:16, 13 November 2006 (UTC)

RfA thanks[edit]

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Thank you for the Support

I'd like to express my huge thanks to you, Anchoress, for your support in my recent RfA, which closed with 100% support at 71/0/1. Needless to say, I am very suprised at the huge levels of support I've seen on my RfA, and at the fact that I only had give three answers, unlike many other nominees who have had many, many more questions! I'll be careful with my use of the tools, and invite you to tell me off if I do something wrong! Thanks, Martinp23 14:58, 18 November 2006 (UTC)

Hey congrats, I am sooooo happy for you! That's an excellent result, and I'm sure you'll do great. Anchoress 21:39, 18 November 2006 (UTC)

hi :)[edit]

I'm 14. How old are U? Isitcozimblack 04:04, 20 November 2006 (UTC)

Everything I'm comfortable revealing about myself is on my userpage. ;-) Have a good nite! Anchoress 04:08, 20 November 2006 (UTC)

Age ain't nuttin' but a thang! Why the long face, pussycat? Isitcozimblack 04:13, 20 November 2006 (UTC)

Thanks back to you[edit]

Well thank you Anchoress. I've seen nothing but clarity from you at the 'RD in some of our contentious moments and if others have benefited from your perspectives as have I well then, the RD has been mightily enriched. You have been able to capture the essence of our discourse and have demonstrated an excellent sense of timing as to when to submit your thoughts and ideas. I don't know if it's cleverness or just natural wisdom on your part; you just seem to provide the right tone at the right time and I thank you for that ability to "calm the waters". See you 'round I'm sure, --hydnjo talk 04:29, 20 November 2006 (UTC)

Blushes: Those are extremely kind words, and I thank you so much for them! I'm so flattered my fingers aren't working. :-))) Anchoress 04:39, 20 November 2006 (UTC)
Damn, I didn't mean for that to happen. ;-) --hydnjo talk 04:43, 20 November 2006 (UTC)
~Typing laboriously with elbows~ lol. It's OK. An excuse not to respond to junk emails. ;-) Anchoress 04:51, 20 November 2006 (UTC)
Now that's an interesting image! --hydnjo talk 05:10, 20 November 2006 (UTC)

Correct ethnicity terminology[edit]

In response to your comment on my talk page, I put New Zealander as ethnicity in the Max Hardcore article because it says he was born in New Zealand. If you don't consider New Zealander an ethnicity, then you can put White or White American, although technically those are just skin colours, not ethnicities. I tried to change the description to "skin color" but it wouldn't show up in the preview. In any case, Caucasian is a disambiguation page, and is a technically incorrect, out-of-date and USA-centric term when referring to all types of white people. The term Caucasian is only technically correct and universally understood when referring to Peoples of the Caucasus, which is a very specific group of people. Spylab 11:39, 22 November 2006 (UTC)

I don't disagree with removing Caucasian, I have no opinion about that either way. But the article doesn't just say he's from New Zealand; in the very infobox you changed, it lists his birthplace as Wisconsin. Furthermore, on IMDb it lists his birthplace as Wisconsin. That's why I mentioned it, because I don't think it's clear that he's a New Zealander. I thought I made that clear enough in my original message to you, I guess you didn't understand. Anchoress 19:59, 22 November 2006 (UTC)

Olive branch[edit]

I think you probably deserve a a slightly expanded explanation for my grumpiness, to which you, unfortunately, have been subject. Some recent discussions by the 'schoolboy' or 'toilet wall' tendency have been annoying the hell out of me (I know you made some attempt to delete one thread before it got underway), but beyond posting a brief and acidy comment, there is not really an awful lot more I can do about this. So your escort posting was all that was needed to tip me over the edge; but, on reflection, I do not think it was that unreasonable. Clio the Muse 09:58, 25 November 2006 (UTC)

Hey, olive branch accepted. Good luck! Anchoress 10:26, 25 November 2006 (UTC)

Help with Editor Review[edit]

Many thanks for looking into my editor review problem. After posting the comment on the administrators noticeboard I quickly had a brain wave and reverted my edits back to the last edits. I think what I had done is altered something on the page so new edits couldn't be added but luckilly it was quickly sorted. Guess you could say that after that edit it was probably a good thing that my editor review didn't get put on!!! Ryanpostlethwaite 22:06, 25 November 2006 (UTC)

LOL. Good on ya. Glad it got sorted. Good luck with the ER. Anchoress 22:19, 25 November 2006 (UTC)

Troll discussion[edit]

Thanks for pointing the other username block out. Gah. I suspect we have a case of self-fulfilling prophecy and I'm not sure its reversible. Dina 23:01, 25 November 2006 (UTC)

Yeah, I get you. I'm following the convo on CC's page, will jump in with more comments if they occur to me. I mean, seriously the editor is probably a troll (see this diff and the convo on my talk page), but I still say it's a dubious username indeff. Anchoress 23:09, 25 November 2006 (UTC)


Ok, I'm fine with that. Will readd if it hasn't been already. semper fiMoe 01:19, 30 November 2006 (UTC)

Cool, thanks for the quick reply. Anchoress 01:22, 30 November 2006 (UTC)

Ref desk cleanup, help needed[edit]

As a user who has expressed interest in dealing with misuse of the reference desk, you may be interested in my comments at Wikipedia talk:Reference desk#Where we stand and my new strategy for dealing with the problem at User:SCZenz/Reference desk comments. It will take help from many people in order to make it clear which behaviors aren't appropriate. -- SCZenz 03:13, 3 December 2006 (UTC)

Women and Photography[edit]

Thank you for raising this, Anchoress. I felt that if I did it would almost certainly have been misconstrued. Besides, I might say that I have such a low opinion of both the intellect and the 'contribitions' of the user in question, that further comment would be superflous; if, that is, I was the kind of person inclined to such remarks. But, of course, I know this would be interpreted as a personal attack and a breach of 'assume good faith;' so I do not. I apologize for the tortured prose. Clio the Muse 19:55, 5 December 2006 (UTC)

Hey, no probs. I think, on another note, that you should be cautious about personal comments directed towards (if not addressed to) other editors; they could be considered a personal attack, even though you're being quite mild. My plan is, rather than letting such people get me down, I just ignore them and stay out of their way. It's a big Wiki, lots of places to contribute without building up too much bad blood. Anchoress 02:07, 6 December 2006 (UTC)
The trouble is they tend to lay themselves across the paths I choose to tread, and I have claws, I must confess. Clio the Muse 06:17, 6 December 2006 (UTC)
LOL well, we all have our buttons, that's for sure. I've lost my head a couple of times. Good luck with the good fight. Anchoress 06:36, 6 December 2006 (UTC)

Rules for deletion[edit]

Would you care to comment on my proposed Ref Desk Rules for Deletion: [2] ? I would like to build a consensus on which rules should be followed. StuRat 07:51, 7 December 2006 (UTC)

Under attack[edit]

I'm under attack, Anchoress, and it is quite malevolent. Since you have expressed an interest please see my response under the relevant section on the RD talk page. Not to worry: I am young, tough and smart, and I will survive. Clio the Muse 20:46, 8 December 2006 (UTC)

OK, I'll check it out. Remember, stay frosty and contribute. Life's too short to make enemies online, and being positional cuts off the flow of good edits. Anchoress 20:51, 8 December 2006 (UTC)

Conflict of interest guideline[edit]

Regarding your response to my comment at the help desk, I was curious whether you were just admonishing me that WP:COI is a guideline rather than a policy, or was there some other aspect of what I wrote that you thought was problematic? Thanks, Newyorkbrad 02:15, 9 December 2006 (UTC)

No, there wasn't any hidden meaning to my question; I just was pretty sure there wasn't a conflict of interest policy, so I was wondering what you were talking about. I didn't know there was a conflict of interest guideline, by the way. I wasn't being faux naif. :-) Thanks for the reply. Anchoress 02:23, 9 December 2006 (UTC)
You're welcome, I was just wondering. I assumed at first you just hadn't heard of WP:COI but I didn't want to presume that because you're been editing more than twice as long as I have. Newyorkbrad 02:26, 9 December 2006 (UTC)
Lol twice as long, but with half as much attentiveness, no doubt. On another note, I was disappointed to find faux naif isn't a WP article. Maybe it's a regional thing. Anchoress 02:31, 9 December 2006 (UTC)
No, but it's on Wiktionary here. Newyorkbrad 02:36, 9 December 2006 (UTC)
Sweet! Anchoress 02:49, 9 December 2006 (UTC)


May I vandalise your userpage? This way, you can turn that "11" into a "12" =). Jamesino 02:57, 12 December 2006 (UTC)

Nobody has my permission to vandalise my userpage. And you're a vandal fighter? You should be careful, cuz my page is on a heap of watchlists, if anyone sees you do it they'll drop a warning on ya. Anchoress 03:03, 12 December 2006 (UTC)

Please vote on attempt to delete new Ref Desk rules[edit]

Vote here: Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Wikipedia:Reference desk/rules. StuRat 01:45, 13 December 2006 (UTC)

Chess ?[edit]

I see you are a chess player, would you care to play a game some time ? StuRat 01:46, 13 December 2006 (UTC)

Yeah, I play mostly speed chess on Yahoo. My Yahoo ID is anchoresse. If you see me online and you want to play just IM me. Anchoress 01:55, 13 December 2006 (UTC)
Oh, I'm no good at speed chess, I play with about 20 mins on the clock. I usually play at Pogo, but I've played at Yahoo, too. StuRat 02:37, 13 December 2006 (UTC)
OK. Well I'm not so good at long games, but I'd do a 20 minute game with you. Shorter is better, but I don't care that much. Anchoress 02:49, 13 December 2006 (UTC)
Do you have a Pogo account ? StuRat 14:45, 14 December 2006 (UTC)
No sorry, what is that? Anchoress 16:21, 14 December 2006 (UTC)
Pogo is a major free game site (although they also have a premium membership, called Club Pogo), which includes free chess. I find it easier to use than Yahoo chess. StuRat 18:05, 14 December 2006 (UTC)
Oh OK, I think I've heard of it. I dunno, I don't imagine myself getting an account any time soon. But look for me if you're ever on Yahoo. Anchoress 12:09, 15 December 2006 (UTC)
Would you like to set up a specific time to meet there for a game ? I'm "sturatthegreat" there ? StuRat 13:51, 15 December 2006 (UTC)
What time zone are you in? Anchoress 13:54, 15 December 2006 (UTC)
US Eastern Time Zone, it's just after 9 AM here. StuRat 14:02, 15 December 2006 (UTC)
Oh, ok, well how bout some nite? Any time I'm on WP and you want to play just let me know and I'll open up a room and invite you. Anchoress 14:21, 15 December 2006 (UTC)
OK, what time range would that be for me ? I can play now, if you like. StuRat 14:30, 15 December 2006 (UTC)

(unindenting) Well I'm going to bed now. I'm up all nite usually. I'm on the compy and available probably from 7pm your time until 8am your time usually. I don't like to play in the morning tho. Anchoress 14:32, 15 December 2006 (UTC)

Too bad, I'd have preferred you to be sleepy for the game, LOL. StuRat 14:35, 15 December 2006 (UTC)
Gee that's not very nice. You need to win that bad, huh? I think I'll say thanks but no thanks, then. Anchoress 14:58, 15 December 2006 (UTC)
No, I don't need to win, that was just a joke. Specifically, it was self-deprecating humor by implying that the only way I could possibly win is if you are fatigued. StuRat 15:39, 15 December 2006 (UTC)
Oh. :-( Well, I dunno lol. I've had reeeeeeally bad experiences with players who talk like that. Anchoress 00:54, 16 December 2006 (UTC)
I'd think somebody who really wanted to win at all costs wouldn't tell you they are hoping you're tired, as that would give away their strategy. StuRat 08:03, 16 December 2006 (UTC)
lol maybe, I don't know. Anchoress 11:41, 16 December 2006 (UTC)
I see you're a fellow Simpson's fan. Up for that game of chess now ? StuRat
How about in about an hour? I'm just getting dinner. If you log into Yahoo I'll invite you. Anchoress 01:51, 17 December 2006 (UTC)
OK, see you there ! StuRat 01:52, 17 December 2006 (UTC)
OK, I'm there now (in Social + Camel Club). StuRat 02:54, 17 December 2006 (UTC)


Thank you for the accolade regarding the Activism at Ohio Wesleyan University page. You noted that you enjoy copyediting. I was wondering if you might help me with some copyedit for the Ohio Wesleyan University page, a page for which I have taken the lead to get it to FA quality. Thanks again for the comment! I appreciate it! WikiprojectOWU 02:54, 13 December 2006 (UTC)

Yeah sure, I'll take a look at it in the next couple of days. Anchoress 02:59, 13 December 2006 (UTC)

RD question-medical advice[edit]

You said that bacterial infections are not contagious. I strongly disagree, having known strep throat to be passed from person to person. Please revise or delete your answer about tonsillitis. Many sore throats are dangerous and the bacteria causing them are highly transmissable. Other sore throats are mononucleosis also highly contagious. Thanks.Edison 17:41, 14 December 2006 (UTC)

Well what I said is that to my knowledge most bacterial infections aren't communicable, at least not as much so as viruses. But I'm happy to remove the post, no problem. I also see though, that you suggested getting a doctor's opinion. I don't think, given the nature of the question (could the original poster get tonsilitis from his friend despite not having tonsils) is worth bothering (and possibly paying) a doctor for. Anchoress 17:50, 14 December 2006 (UTC)

Child policy edit[edit]

Thanks for pointing that out. That account has no useful contribs, and that remark in the edit summary was way out of line. I've indefinitely blocked it, and added a note on ANI. Yours, (Radiant) 17:49, 16 December 2006 (UTC)

Cool, NP. Anchoress 00:21, 17 December 2006 (UTC)

IQ = 156; Career = ?[edit]

You have a super high IQ ( mine is just 103 checked on internet ) . Are you like a Neurologist or a Heart Specialist or a Scientist? --Jones2 00:32, 17 December 2006 (UTC)

LOL no, I managed to avoid that type of career, despite my whole family being in the hard sciences. I'm 38 and managing a Barnes and Noble, lol. No actually, I'm a science writer (emphasis on the writer), and in my spare time I make synergy. And books on how to cheat at bridge. And btw about those online IQ tests, they tend to lowball. Have it done properly and you'll get a better idea. Anchoress 01:09, 17 December 2006 (UTC)
Thanks for making me feel better regarding my IQ, I was feeling rather depressed because I had a low IQ compared to you. Anyways good luck publishing your book on How to cheat Bridge & publishing your science articles i.e. Science Experiments by Anchoress. --Jones2 01:23, 17 December 2006 (UTC)
LOL that's cute. But I'm making a joke about myself using a couple of Simpsons episodes dealing with high IQ. I was poking fun at myself as a classic dilettante, an archetype that was mocked by Eric Idle in a conversation with Lisa Simpson where he suggested that, despite her high IQ, she would find herself '38 and managing a Barnes and Noble'. In another episode, a female Mensa member, when asked by Lisa what she made, said 'Synergy. And books on how to cheat at bridge.' Like many brainiacs without a high-powered career to distract us, I'm preoccupied with minutae. Cheers! Anchoress 01:33, 17 December 2006 (UTC)
What does minutae mean? Is it an english word? --Jones2 02:18, 17 December 2006 (UTC)
Sorry, typo. I wondered why my wikilink didn't work lol. Anchoress 02:25, 17 December 2006 (UTC)

You are a very interesting (in a good way) person. I noticed you are very willing to help your fellow Wiki users. Are you a writer who knows some science? Or a scientist who enjoys writting? 15:56, 17 December 2006 (UTC)

I'm a writer who knows a bit of science. Among other things. ;-) Thanks for the kind words. Anchoress 17:44, 17 December 2006 (UTC)

Editor review[edit]

The homework-related question clearly seemed like vandalism from first look through Vandal Proof and far from every vandal-reverter investigates each revert he makes. The warning was made automaticly using templates and had nothing to do with not being gentle to newcomers. As for the discussions, they were not removed, but rather moved to a different subpage. It was an obligation of mine to notice other users of the move. I hope your can reconsider my editor review comment and be less quick to make negative judgment on other users. Thank you. Michaelas10 (Talk) 22:04, 18 December 2006 (UTC)

I understand that it seemed like vandalism, but I gave you (on your talk page) a valid other interpretation, which IMO (and my experience both with this user previously and the general tenor of the ref desks) was more plausible than your interpretation. I don't know what other term besides 'removed' would work for our conversation, which was in progress. Whether or not it appeared elsewhere, it was removed from your talkpage. And if it did appear elsewhere, where? I think it is discourteous to make editors trying to work out an issue with you tool through your subpages looking for their thread. Which I did, by the way, and I didn't find it. And no, I'm sorry, I won't be reconsidering my editor review. Best wishes, though. Anchoress 22:11, 18 December 2006 (UTC)
I see your point, and I've removed the warning from the talk page of the IP, but you may also read the header of the subpage. Moving messeges to subpages is a very common practice here on Wikipedia and discussions may be continued through there as I will keep it on my watchlist. Michaelas10 (Talk) 22:18, 18 December 2006 (UTC)
Well good for you for removing the warning. I think you should also restore the question you deleted. And as for the sub-page, perhaps it is common, but I have never seen it in practice, and more importantly, I would not have known where to go to find my thread, so how could I have continued to participate? I think moving a completed conversation is completely appropriate; I also think it is appropriate to move a conversation in progress with sufficient notification to participants; but I don't think the way you did it was OK. Anchoress 22:25, 18 December 2006 (UTC)


So I see you have taken to calling me a "troll" for some reason. I want an apology. You have no need to call me that. Systemex 03:04, 19 December 2006 (UTC)

Sowry. ;-) Anchoress 13:45, 23 December 2006 (UTC)

Reference on Coffee Pot[edit]

You have accused me (or my IP address, actually) of "defacing the Coffee Pot" page of wikipedia. Honestly, lady, I have no fuckin idea what you're talking about. I'd never even SEEN that page, let alone changed or defaced it, before you challenged me about it. So don't threaten me with "blocking my access" or some other shit like that, because IT'S NOT ME. GET IT? So sod off. And I love coffee pots, anyway. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by (talk) 04:50, 23 December 2006 (UTC).

Well if you look at the diff, your IP address DID deface the Coffee pot article. See, this is why it's good to get an account. If you yourself didn't make that edit, then you are suffering the consequences of someone else's vandalistic actions, which is what often happens when one edits from an IP. And when you communicate with other editors, please try to assume good faith, and be more civil; such rudeness as what is included in your post to me is considered a personal attack and may result in a warning similar to the one you just complained to me about. And FWIW, I love coffee pots too. :-)) Thanks for communicating with me, and happy editing! Anchoress 13:51, 23 December 2006 (UTC)
OK I checked the "diff" file and saw that the picture of a coffee pot was replaced by a file named Vulva11.jpg . I can guess what that is, and I KNOW I didn't do that; so someone else must have used my computer and done that. Probably one of my kids. Sorry for my rude tone. I'll get an account, as you suggested. And thanks for all the editing work you've put into this user-powered encyclopedia.
Thank you very much for the reply, the thank you and the apology. Re; the other edit, you should know that IP addresses can rotate, so don't be too quick to blame your kids until you know that your computer was using that IP at the time. Anchoress 16:10, 23 December 2006 (UTC)

Happy Holidays ![edit]

You may want to consider endorsing this petition: User_talk:Friday#Petition_to_recall_User:Friday_from_the_position_of_admin. StuRat 12:23, 24 December 2006 (UTC)

Merry Christmas![edit]

Happy Holidays from AndonicO!
You're welcome. :-) By the way, how come you removed most of the template? Was there a problem with the coding? Please tell me if there was. | AndonicO Talk | Sign Here 01:42, 27 December 2006 (UTC)
Nope, nothing wrong with the coding, I just like the slimline version. But I appreciate it! Anchoress 01:56, 27 December 2006 (UTC)

New ISBN System?[edit]

Below are items from the Berne Trial article.

Notice that now has a numeric suffix right after the "ISBN" acronym.
Please advise.
Below is what I've done (put up the parentheses, and repeated "ISBN").
Yours truly, --Ludvikus 18:27, 25 December 2006 (UTC)
   (ISBN-10) ISBN 0853035954
   (ISBN-13) ISBN 978-0853035954
Hi, Ludvikus; I'm not sure why you've contacted me as it appears I have neve edited the Berne Trial article, and I don't have any particular expertise with ISBN numbers. If you can give me more info about what you need, I would be happy to try to help you. Anchoress 15:02, 26 December 2006 (UTC)

Tennis Images[edit]

I noticed that on WP:RP you requested pictures of female Tennis players. Since you are probably much more knowledge about the article than I (and hence know where to place/replace the image), I'm just going to link you to a few images I found pre-existing on Wikipedia for you. And because this request has been fufilled, I'm going to delist it from WP:RP.

--YbborT 23:32, 26 December 2006 (UTC)

I don't know anything about the article, and I don't know anything about how to add pics to an article, sooo... are you going to add them? Cuz that's usually what happens, I think. Anchoress 23:35, 26 December 2006 (UTC)

Weird edit[edit]

Thanks for bringing that weird edit to my attention. Please review my explanation at my talk and add whatever you want to aid my understanding as to what happened. --hydnjo talk 23:49, 28 December 2006 (UTC)

non admin[edit]

Where is the non admin template? SqueakBox 21:25, 29 December 2006 (UTC)

I don't know, I had to ask on the help desk to find the anti-admin one. Anchoress 21:28, 29 December 2006 (UTC)

Besides which that page is not in your user space, so if you keep reverting we are likely to have an edit war. Why not put what you want in your personal space, but dont think wikipedia/ belongs to you, please, SqueakBox 21:30, 29 December 2006 (UTC)

It belongs to User:Wikipedia which itself is a template. i need a user box that states I am not an admin without any corrolaries, SqueakBox 21:31, 29 December 2006 (UTC)

Cheers and have a nice holiday break, SqueakBox 21:35, 29 December 2006 (UTC)

Hi, SqueakBox. I agree that the template is not in my userspace, I'm sorry you misunderstood me. I was meaning to suggest that POV is allowed on the userpages of editors who wish to indicate that, not only do they not wish to be administrators, but that they do not ever wish to be one. I fully support your goals to have a userbox that indicates lack of interest in being an administrator without the qualifications. You have no need to be concerned about reversions, I would not dream of getting into a revert war with you. And you may be fully reassured that I do not think Wikipedia belongs to me. Happy editing! Anchoress 21:37, 29 December 2006 (UTC)

Get Down Tonight[edit]

Back in August, I asked a question regarding the song "Get Down Tonight," and what instrument was used in its introduction. I searched and found a source which told me what really happened. I thought you might be interested, since you tried to answer my question then. Mike H. I did "That's hot" first! 19:31, 30 December 2006 (UTC)

Neat, that's interesting. Thanx! Anchoress 19:36, 30 December 2006 (UTC)