User talk:Chubbles/Archive 3

Regarding LLN again

The list of bands... are we absolutely certain that all of these bands exist? There are certainly no sources for many of them that I can find. Blackmetalbaz (talk) 01:26, 8 January 2008 (UTC)

I've gone through, removed the links to bands without pages and deleted bands for which I could find no references at all (beyond forum posts, or more usually lists of LLN bands seemingly copy-pasted from the Wikipedia article). Blackmetalbaz (talk) 04:07, 8 January 2008 (UTC)

OK, I'll put it up for AfD then. the problem is that the material cannot be sourced reliably. It relies exclusievly on fanzines and Internet rumours. So... what happens if we put it up for AfD and the result is 'keep'? We leave it entirely unsourced ad infinitum? That's not a sensible way to run an encyclopedia. I genuinely believe my edit to include only sourced statements (i.e. an introductory paragraph) is a better option for the time being. We shall see. Blackmetalbaz (talk) 00:59, 28 January 2008 (UTC)

I de-linked the record labels on the LLN page that didn't have articles. Is the removal of the redlinks objected to? It didn't seem to be a problem with the bands list... Blackmetalbaz (talk) 19:39, 26 February 2008 (UTC)

I should clarify, I am aware redlinks are not intrinsically evil and bad and wrong, but these (much like many on the band list) were links to articles that have not been created since that of the LLN page, a significant time ago. I know that you consider notability a ruse, but I'm also fairly sure that no-one is likely in the near future to create these page, one of which is to a record label with (IIRC) only two releases; if you would like to do so, feel free... Blackmetalbaz (talk) 19:43, 26 February 2008 (UTC)

Great job!

Hello Chubbles. You wrote on your user page that many Wikipedians believe that many of the articles you write shouldn't actually exist. I disagree. I think you have done a great job for Wikipedia. I really admire you contributions. Regards, Masterpiece2000 (talk) 08:56, 3 January 2008 (UTC)

Second that. Fair enough that there's no place in Wikipedia for an article on me or my mum or the girl next door (but in years to come, who knows?), but it beggars belief that someone would – in the case of The Devastations, who you went into bat for this week (and thanks for that) – actualy want to remove an article about a band that has signed a record deal, released a series of albums that people pay good money for and toured to foreign countries. If the information exists because some obsessive has gone to the trouble to gather it and write about it, then why in God's name would you want to erase it? The answer, sadly, is probably more about power, and some pathetic urge to tell other people they're not following rules. As Basil Fawlty once said, "This is exactly how Nazi Germany started!" So keep up the good work, old son. Grimhim (talk) 10:28, 16 February 2008 (UTC)

Action Action

What part of "repost" was unclear? Reproducing a deleted page without explicitly fixing the flaws that got it deleted doesn't really work. --Calton | Talk 15:51, 3 January 2008 (UTC)

AfD nomination of Nostradameus

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Sorry for the harsh title

Sorry for being harsh labelling. I have been here almost as long as Wikipedia has been around. After 50000 edits I have zero tolerance for junk articles and nn spam pages. I don't call it sledgehammer editing. For the articles that worthless and deletable... it's called "shovel editing". You are a good editor. But we can agree that we disagree on some things. I can guarantee that we agree on many more issues as far as Wiki is concerned. I believe in the Wikipedia project and have made it a grand hobby. And I also promote that "anyone can edit" by remaining anon and not returning to the username that I had for the first 2 years of my "wiki-existence". I am much more comfortable in the "purity" of IP editing. But it has a price. I brick up against "anti-anon" bias every day. And Wiki itself... the encyclpedia that anyone is supposed to be able to edit... has it's own built in bias that prevents anons from creating AfD and CfD cases. So Speedy D is all I have. And I use it wherever I see the need. Perhaps the next time we cross paths it will be to cooperate on an GA or FA or something similar. I don't just revert vandals and rm junk. I am a librarian with easy access to all kinds of reliable sources. Occasionally I step away from vandal hunting and just edit. My co-workers are Wiki editors too (although not at the same level of participation that I am). If you see a 156.34 editor... it's usually one of us. Feel free to ask for help with a citation. I/we participate here for one reason... to create a quality/trustworthy/respected resource. Someday it will be. 156.34.221.33 (talk) 17:50, 4 January 2008 (UTC)

Chubbles if some of the entries have articles then feel free to put them back in. But do not undermine the list as a valid resource by adding in a bunch of high school bands and never-will-be's. 156.34.212.152 (talk) 14:52, 6 January 2008 (UTC)

to answer your question about being careful..

I was polite and careful 4 years ago... along with everyone else. And English Wikipedia wound up with over 1.5 million useless understatement articles. Now it's time to backtrack. My edit motto is "turn up the good, turn down the suck". Two end results from that are 1)Some people get ticked off that I don't 'edit with hugs' and 2)An encyclopedia that will someday be a valid and trustworthy resource. right now it is a long way from that .

Also, my IP is only dynamic when I am away from my office. When I am back at my desk my IP is static. You've probably seen it show up in your watchlist. It's the IP page with all the barnstars for doing such good work around here. As a logged user I had many B_stars. I have promised a few admin friends that when my IP page reaches 20 B_stars... I will go back to using an account. I will never get one for being "lovey-dovey" though. My AGF dried up years ago. Now, for an editor to get on my 'whitelist'... they have to earn it. BTW... you are on my whitelist. I can tell when an editor is working hard to try and improve Wikipedia. Just because they disagree with me... doesn't mean I don't respect their efforts here. You could lose the anti-anon bias though... Wikipedia was built by anonymous editors, not admins. Always remember that. My nickname here is "Libs" go figure... I am a librarian Feel free to call me that.

and here's one of my old chum Sango's little tokens

		The Resilient Barnstar
		Always improving and learning as you go. An "in advance" token for an editor who resparked my long dead AGF that some editors truly care about Wikipedia. "Libs"

156.34.212.152 (talk) 02:09, 7 January 2008 (UTC)

Good work...

		The Barnstar of Diligence
		For your work on referencing and rescuing numerous articles on notable bands that might otherwise have slipped through the cracks. Keep it up! Tony Fox (arf!) 21:14, 4 January 2008 (UTC)

Secret Trial Five (band)

Hey!

Would appreciate if you could do a write-up about this band, I've been keeping up with the taqwacore scene, and this band stands out as being the only all-girl band in that genre. They were also the only females to sing at the ISNA (Islamic Society of North America) convention in its 40 year history. I've already submitted a request for creation with a bunch of publications they've been in, including Rolling Stone and The Guardian.

Thanks! Greg S. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 64.180.106.111 (talk) 17:00, 7 January 2008 (UTC)

Hasan Salaam

Hi, I found better sources for the references and cleaned up the Hasan Salaam article. Can the refimprove be removed or is there more I need to do besides expand the stub? Webhat (talk) 14:37, 10 January 2008 (UTC)

Thank you Webhat (talk) 14:57, 10 January 2008 (UTC)

Request for Article on Echovalve (Band)

I have been following this rock band for over 2 years. They were just recently signed by Rock Ridge Music and their debut CD, "helloagaingoodbye" will be released on 3/18/08 (US) & the end of 3/08 Europe & Canada. They are based out of Atlanta, GA. I also added a request for article in the music section before I found you... ;) Thanks for considering doing this! Jackie Atlbelle40 (talk) 16:16, 10 January 2008 (UTC)

User:Chubbles/Sofa (Canadian band)‎

per request. ~ trialsanderrors (talk) 16:02, 11 January 2008 (UTC)

Removal of speedy deletion notice of The Supremacy

Your reason for removing the speedy deletion notice of The Supremacy in my opinion is not valid.

Per Wikipedia:CSD#A7: "No indication of importance/significance. An article about a real person, organization (band, club, company, etc.), or web content that does not indicate why its subject is important or significant. This is distinct from questions of notability, verifiability and reliability of sources. A7 applies only to articles about web content or articles on people and organizations themselves, not articles on their books, albums, software and so on. Other article types are not eligible for deletion by this criterion. If controversial, as with schools, list the article at Articles for deletion instead."

Nothing in the article states why the band is important or significant. You used the reason "rockdetector link asserts a sliver of notability" when the criteria states it is distinct from the question of notability.

Anything you could add to help me understand why this page is not a candidate for speedy deletion would be appreciated. Thank you, Aspects (talk) 21:29, 11 January 2008 (UTC)

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Same Name Question

Hello Chubbles. I put the following question on the Help Desk yesterday and got a response that eventually led me to you. Any and all help would be much appreciated! [FYI, if you are interested and want the references about the band--newspaper and magazine articles, TV shows, etc--I'm glad to forward them along.] Thanks!

We need help on a name question. Currently, under the listing for "The Voltaires" you have a U.K.-based band listed that formed in 2004. We would like to list our U.S. band, also "The Voltaires" in that listing, or in a different listing of its own. Our band formed in 2001; we have a CD ["all about her"] that came out in 2003, and we can be found on the website www.thevoltaires.com. What do you suggest we do? We don't really have a problem with the existing listing, but we certainly want to be included in Wikipedia. Thanks for your help!

17:43, 15 January 2008 (UTC)

Please read WP:BAND and WP:COI before creating an article on your band. If you decide to create one, I guess the obvious thing to do is to create it at The Voltaires (US band) and put a 'see also' link (created by

For other uses, see Chubbles/Archive 3 (disambiguation).

for example) at the top of The Voltaires. Perhaps The Voltaires should be moved to The Voltaires (UK band) as well, but that can wait until we see if you article avoids immediate deletion (the fate of so many new articles). Good luck! Algebraist 18:06, 15 January 2008 (UTC)

(EDIT CONFLICT)You could list the band at The Voltaires (US band) or something to that extent and put a disambig on the current page. However, I urge you to consider these things first. Please read over WP:COI as it is generally not acceptable to have someone write about a person/organization/band/company/etc if it is them, or if they are directly associated with it. If the band meets wikipedia's music notability criteria (and at first glance it looks like it does) you could request that someone else make the article at Requested Articles or Articles for Creation. Each one of these pages has its own policies and practices noted at the top so make sure to read each one and decide which one fits your situation best. --Oni Ookami AlfadorTalk|@ 18:11, 15 January 2008 (UTC)

What do you suggest? Thanks again... R.N.Goldberg (talk) 16:38, 16 January 2008 (UTC)

Here or There?

No problem on the info. Sorry for being dense but I'm a new contributor: Am I supposed to post it on your user page or on mine? Thanks! R.N.Goldberg (talk) 21:12, 16 January 2008 (UTC)

Rusty Eye

Vandalism? Someone made a mistake on a very subjective musical matter. Still, it was fixed days ago. There's no error, there's no conflict. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 64.81.43.106 (talk) 23:29, 16 January 2008 (UTC)

Rusty Eye

I understand that Rusty Eye is not a NWOBHM band (which covers British bands from 1979 to 1982), they are just NWOBHM-influenced (that was the initial conflict of interest). That error was fixed. Please stop putting the COI tag on this site or it will be deleted. There is no conflict anymore. Rustyeye (talk) 06:38, 17 January 2008 (UTC)

I think the user needs some help knowing what WP:COI actually is. Scarian^{Call me Pat} 11:29, 18 January 2008 (UTC)

So what's the conflict? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 64.81.43.106 (talk) 17:12, 21 January 2008 (UTC)

Have you read that document? Chubbles (talk) 17:23, 21 January 2008 (UTC)

I did read it. What proof do you need? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 64.81.43.106 (talk) 21:14, 21 January 2008 (UTC)

Well, pretty much everyone who has ever edited this article is convinced that you (User:Rustyeye, and 68.81.43.106 when not logged in) are a member of the band, or the band's manager, or some sort. It is possible that the band does not meet the criteria for inclusion in the encyclopedia and that the page acts merely as an advertisement, rather than an information source. This is the reason the tag keeps reappearing. Chubbles (talk) 21:17, 21 January 2008 (UTC)

I'm a music journalist that believes in these guys, like many other people in the LA music scene. I edit, add and cleanup their wikipedia article quite often so the press, fans or people that want to know what their artistic proposal is about find reliable information on a reliable source. As far as advertising, I’m not sure exactly what do you think they are selling on wikipedia since the article is just facts on their career so far, like many other articles on artists in here. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 64.81.43.106 (talk) 21:43, 21 January 2008 (UTC)

BTW... If it's about "notability and verifiability" Just do some research on Rusty Eye. Let's hope you find out why I like them so much. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 64.81.43.106 (talk) 21:54, 21 January 2008 (UTC)

Bill Flagg

Hello -

I have translated the article on Bill Flagg that you requested from the German Wiki.

Enjoy! Scbarry (talk) 23:48, 17 January 2008 (UTC)

I am currently in the midst of also translating a German article about Isis, an all-female jazz fusion band. If I'm lucky, I'll get that one done tonight, too. You didn't request it, but I suspect you'll be happy to see that one, as well. :-)

Have fun. Scbarry (talk) 01:02, 18 January 2008 (UTC)

Oh yeah. I'm not very good with categorizing. The article on Bill Flagg hasn't yet been proofread, but if you'd like to add some appropriate categories, that would be appreciated. I'll bet you know what should be there. Scbarry (talk) 01:06, 18 January 2008 (UTC)

Speedy deletion of Alejandro Núñez Allauca

A tag has been placed on Alejandro Núñez Allauca requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section A7 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the article appears to be about a person or group of people, but it does not indicate how or why the subject is notable: that is, why an article about that subject should be included in an encyclopedia. Under the criteria for speedy deletion, articles that do not indicate the subject's importance or significance may be deleted at any time. Please see the guidelines for what is generally accepted as notable, as well as our subject-specific notability guideline for biographies.

If you think that this notice was placed here in error, you may contest the deletion by adding {{hangon}} to the top of the page (just below the existing speedy deletion or "db" tag), coupled with adding a note on the article's talk page explaining your position, but be aware that once tagged for speedy deletion, if the article meets the criterion it may be deleted without delay. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag yourself, but don't hesitate to add information to the article that would would render it more in conformance with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines. Gromlakh (talk) 06:06, 18 January 2008 (UTC)

Alejandro Núñez Allauca

That may be true, but the article doesn't cite any references and the subject appears to be a non-notable person/musician. If you can beef it up to show his notability and add some references, by all means, please toss a {{hangon}} tag on there and do your thing. Gromlakh (talk) 06:12, 18 January 2008 (UTC)

I can clearly see you're not a newbie, and if the article was requested I'd say that's a pretty good sign that he's notable. I've removed the tag; have fun beefing it up! Gromlakh (talk) 06:19, 18 January 2008 (UTC)

I'm too busy...

with stupid deadlines and travel and stuff, but I'm fairly sure this band has enough to slip above WP:MUSIC. I opined keep last time around, and I've gone neutral on this one but provided a couple links... I'm just far too tied up to spend the time to find good refs. If you get a chance, you might want to take a look and see what you can find. Cheers! Tony Fox (arf!) 21:37, 18 January 2008 (UTC)

Thanks to the magic of iTunes, I've just grabbed some of their stuff myself. Not bad at all. Good work on the emergency referencing! Tony Fox (arf!) 06:18, 19 January 2008 (UTC)

User:Chubbles/Alesana

Good luck with this one. Spartaz ^Humbug! 21:34, 20 January 2008 (UTC)

I replied at my talk page

JERRY ^talk _contribs 05:25, 21 January 2008 (UTC)

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Carlos (singer)

There's a deletion review going on here. Feel free to express your opinions. :) GlassCobra 00:20, 23 January 2008 (UTC)

Alessandro Cicognini

The articles il, la, etc, go at the begining. The films should be from older to newer, and using this Italic text in all titles. The numeration of works is not used. I've edited your article a little. In categories, birth year and detah are missing. By the way, wellcome to Italian cinema. Rohmerin (talk) 11:42, 24 January 2008 (UTC)

Thank you!

Thank you indeed, for your comment. [1]. I wish what is basically simple common sense wasn't quite so extraordinary around here. DGG (talk) 16:48, 25 January 2008 (UTC)

Carlos (singer)

Thank you very much for creating this article. I'll have a look at it. Korg (talk) 23:35, 25 January 2008 (UTC)

Sleepy LaBeef

You've gotta be kiddin' me! I was just patrolling new pages; I can not believe that this article is only just now being created. I salute you! Precious Roy (talk) 20:48, 29 January 2008 (UTC)

Makes sense—the country that graced us with Bear Family Records... Best, Precious Roy (talk) 21:35, 29 January 2008 (UTC)

Sofa (Canadian Band)

Hi Chubbles,

Check out my response to the nonsense tha Khukri wrote regarding your sofa entry - hopefully you can restore the entry now! If not send him another message backing mine up so that we can move forward on restoring the Sofa entry :-)

Cheers! —Preceding unsigned comment added by Sentinal9 (talk • contribs) 12:47, 30 January 2008 (UTC)

Sofa

Hi Chubbles,

Nice one! Yes, it will surely help restore the page. Thanks so much for getting it back on track with those additions! Let's hope it gets reposted asap :-) cheers Sentinal9 (talk) 16:10, 30 January 2008 (UTC)

so re: the band page you've made - i guess all you need to do now is post it to the deletion review page as suggested by Khukri in the thread on his talk page...

thanks again chubbles :-) Sentinal9 (talk) 17:57, 30 January 2008 (UTC)

Thanks

Chubbles, didn't mean to cause any conflict about the link on the GP page. I know you were doing what you thought was best as did I. But other items that conflicted were also removed, so the resources remaining are all of a different caliber.

br —Preceding unsigned comment added by 212.227.114.171 (talk) 21:53, 1 February 2008 (UTC)

Grayson Hugh page

I am a friend of Grayson's and want to let you know how much he appreciates the wiki article you created for him. He is releasing a new CD soon, so we will keep you informed about its progress.

I also deleted an external link on his page that points to a MySpace/GraysonHugh page which was created by someone unknown to Grayson. It is not affiliated with Grayson Hugh at all, has little or no information about him and appears to be filled almost entirely with blinking clip art and possibly malicious links. If you know different, let me know, otherwise, please leave the link off his Wikipedia page. Edit: We are working with Myspace to get it deleted and so he can put up his own page there. I'll keep you informed about that.

Again, many thanks.

WJ Porter The Grayson Hugh Team Katsmeowie (talk) 21:56, 3 February 2008 (UTC)

Richard Ayres

Hello Chubbles. How are you? I have created the biography of Richard Ayres, a British composer. This is my first music-related article. Ayres received the Matthijs Vermeulen Award and the Gaudeamus International Composers Award. You have created many biographies of musicians. Can you 'rate' the biography and add few stuff? I am asking you because you are probably the most qualified person in music-related articles on Wikipedia. Regards, Masterpiece2000 (talk) 05:06, 4 February 2008 (UTC)

Thank you for the reply. Regards, Masterpiece2000 (talk) 08:58, 4 February 2008 (UTC)

All Music Guide

Thanks for the advice. I may want to bear that in mind in the future. Having said that, there are really very few truly notable artists in the English-speaking world at least that don't have All Music Guide entries - right? Equally, there are many artists in the AMG that are clearly non-notable.--h i s ^{s p a c e} _{r e s e a r c h} 18:44, 5 February 2008 (UTC)

You could be a very helpful editor to me, given that I have a very broad interest in popular (and not so popular) music in many different forms. For example, I created the article Pooh-Man, having not heard of its subject less than half an hour before creating the article - but I established that it met WP:MUSIC criterion 5, so I created it after finding that it was missing from Wikipedia (previously speedily deleted because the author didn't know how to present its actual notability). Thing is, though, I don't see it being anything more than a stub, ever, due to lack of reliable sources. Thoughts on this particular case?--h i s ^{s p a c e} _{r e s e a r c h} 19:02, 5 February 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for expanding the article.--h i s ^{s p a c e} _{r e s e a r c h} 19:29, 5 February 2008 (UTC)

A similar recent case of something I've created is Manolo Muñoz. Would you care to assess that one?--h i s ^{s p a c e} _{r e s e a r c h} 19:31, 5 February 2008 (UTC)

HEY!

im not vandalizing man im fixing the pages that is not my intent the red jumpsuit apparatus is not an emo band they are post-hardcore —Preceding unsigned comment added by Postcore (talk • contribs) 17:56, 7 February 2008 (UTC)

RE: Request

There are two versions. 1 deleted as nonsense (which it was) and an A7 which is below Spartaz ^Humbug! 06:57, 10 February 2008 (UTC)

Beverly Bremers is best known for the 1972 top-40 hit "Don't Say You Don't Remember" which was her only major recording. She also appeared in numerous major stage productions including "Hair" and has been a voice coach and actress in Los Angleles area. The song "Don't Say You Don't Remember" was written specifically for Ms. Bremers by xxx, who also wrote yyy and zzzz.

Template:This article is currently a stub which should be complete no later than December 15 , 2007

[edit] Headline text http://www.beverlybremers.com

Retrieved from "http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beverly_Bremer"

Thanks!

For bringing back the Colour Revolt article. They're a great band, and on the rise, so I think it'll stick around. —Preceding unsigned comment added by WildhockeyTroJan (talk • contribs) 08:15, 10 February 2008 (UTC)

Popular culture in Cameltoe

None of the events described in this section are notable, none of them are sourced and all of them fail the relevant sections of WP:NEO and WP:TRIVIA. That a character shares a name with the article title or that a word is employed by a character in a movie does not make that information relevant. Moreover, articles cannot exist because they are a "pop culture phenomenon" since that directly contradicts WP:NEO. Relevant, sourced information can be added into other sections of the article but should not be readded to a "popular culture" section. Cumulus Clouds (talk) 04:22, 12 February 2008 (UTC)

• Is there a source that describes the effects of the song "Cameltoe" or the movie "Weatherman" on the prevalence of this term in the modern vernacular? Cumulus Clouds (talk) 04:26, 12 February 2008 (UTC)

• That article addresses the development of the song "Cameltoe" by the group Fanny Pack, but doesn't mention anything about the etymological development of the word "Cameltoe" in popular culture. Cumulus Clouds (talk) 04:30, 12 February 2008 (UTC)

• We cannot infer any information about the New York Times' article that isn't printed within the text since that would qualify as unpublished synthesis. The information about Fanny Pack isn't really relevant since it doesn't do anything to explain the term itself. The guideline on neologisms is pretty clear, sources should be used which describe, but do not employ the term. The article about Fanny Pack can stay, the sentence about Fanny Pack's song should be rewritten and moved into another section. If there isn't a source on the effect of Weatherman's use of the term, it too should be deleted. Cumulus Clouds (talk) 04:35, 12 February 2008 (UTC)

• Again, just because a review mentions that part of the plot -but does not expand on its effect on popular culture- doesn't mean it's relevant to the article. This would still fail the guideline on neologisms. The instance about Fanny Pack should be moved somewhere else, the sentence about Weatherman should be deleted and the section should be eliminated. Cumulus Clouds (talk) 04:40, 12 February 2008 (UTC)

• Like the New York Times argument before, the fact that the Weatherman synopses was picked up by Google News is unpublished synthesis, since there aren't any published sources to support statements about this movie affecting this term in popular culture. It should therefore be removed since it isn't notable. I read the article on FannyPack, and mentioning the song only within that article should be fine, because without a source it's still synthesis in Cameltoe. Cumulus Clouds (talk) 05:12, 12 February 2008 (UTC)

• True, but inserting that information into articles fails WP:NEO, specifically To support the use of (or an article about) a particular term we must cite reliable secondary sources such as books and papers about the term—not books and papers that use the term... editor's personal observations and research (e.g. finding blogs and books that use the term) are insufficient to support use of (or articles on) neologisms because this is analysis and synthesis of primary source material (which is explicitly prohibited by the original research policy). Cumulus Clouds (talk) 05:28, 12 February 2008 (UTC)

• The current revision looks much better (though we still disagree about keeping that material there). I won't challenge that improvement, thank you. Cumulus Clouds (talk) 05:30, 12 February 2008 (UTC)

• Well, I personally don't think these terms are notable enough to have their own standalone articles. This, like Whale tail, Muffin top, Handbra and the now redirected Mom jeans are (in my opinion) generally unsuitable because most of the information in them is original research. They're also generally magnets for sexually illicit or degrading pictures of questionable origin and utility, and while I understand the policy on censorship, some care should be taken to make sure these articles look professional. Case in point, there are two picture on Cameltoe which illustrate the exact same phenomenon, one of them is some guy's girlfriend and the other one is some guy's mistress. This information may be better suited in a central article about terms used for body parts or something along those lines, so we can condense much of the extraneous and otherwise impertinent information from these articles. At least, in my opinion. Cumulus Clouds (talk) 05:47, 12 February 2008 (UTC)

RE: Revelation Theory

Doesn't really need cleanup, just a lead paragraph. --LAX 21:57, 14 February 2008 (UTC)

Speedy deletion of Leo Treitler

A tag has been placed on Leo Treitler requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section A7 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the article appears to be about a person or group of people, but it does not indicate how or why the subject is notable: that is, why an article about that subject should be included in an encyclopedia. Under the criteria for speedy deletion, articles that do not indicate the subject's importance or significance may be deleted at any time. Please see the guidelines for what is generally accepted as notable, as well as our subject-specific notability guideline for biographies.

If you think that this notice was placed here in error, you may contest the deletion by adding {{hangon}} to the top of the page (just below the existing speedy deletion or "db" tag), coupled with adding a note on the article's talk page explaining your position, but be aware that once tagged for speedy deletion, if the article meets the criterion it may be deleted without delay. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag yourself, but don't hesitate to add information to the article that would would render it more in conformance with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines. Biomedeng (talk) 03:35, 15 February 2008 (UTC)

Accusation of sockpuppetry

Please remove the disgusting accusation of sockpuppetry you leveled against me from that AfD. Blast Ulna (talk) 02:41, 16 February 2008 (UTC)

Blacklace

Huh? What are you trying to say? The fact that the band is on metal archives says a lot if they were a rock band they WOULD NOT be allowed on. The site is VERY strict on what constitues as "metal". [2] AMG is WRONG in this case, we cannot accept their classification for this metal band but why are you removing the entry altogether? −₪ÇɨгcaғucɨҲ₪ ^kaiden 19:44, 17 February 2008 (UTC)

About a band from Canada?? Where are you looking? Did you even look at this link? −₪ÇɨгcaғucɨҲ₪ ^kaiden 19:52, 17 February 2008 (UTC)

Of coarse Encyclopaedia Metallum is not reliable but it's sometimes the best "source" you can find for metal discogs. It's respected amongst metal fans nonetheless. I'll be on the look out for sources but I must mention that one of their albums were produced by Ross the Boss. −₪ÇɨгcaғucɨҲ₪ ^kaiden 20:07, 17 February 2008 (UTC)

Well I've found some sources that are reasonably long [3] [4] so it looks more writable now. −₪ÇɨгcaғucɨҲ₪ ^kaiden 04:47, 24 February 2008 (UTC)

Alesana

I went to DRV and had it restored. Also, it has a raft of sources. What gives?

Where? I don't see any link to WP:DRV, just WP:AFD. --Calton | Talk 03:58, 20 February 2008 (UTC)

Sky eats airplane

Here you go: User talk:Chubbles/Sky. We need an assertion of notability and significant mainstream media coverage of this group if they are to ahve a page here. Cheers, yandman 09:38, 27 February 2008 (UTC)

My bad

About the undo to that kite band.. forget the name. I know I just saw it.. but anyways. The ip that made the edit had a long history of vandalism, so I just assumed without thinking. Sorry. Daedalus (talk) 20:55, 28 February 2008 (UTC)

DYK

On 3 March, 2008, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Bobby Lee Trammell, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

--Daniel Case (talk) 23:44, 3 March 2008 (UTC)

MEA musical groups suggestions

Hey there, Chubbles. I'll let you know when I come across them. I think there are some Spanish-language groups currently on the Spanish list (not necessarily ones that are known in English-language countries and thus would be hard to find in English-language sources, but of course they would still be notable); I'm not sure if you meant them. A terrific tool for finding some that are missing of whatever genre/nationality/etc. is the Suggest articles from interwikis tool, which searches through a category in whatever Wikipedia and subcategories to whatever depth looking for articles that have other interwikis but none to English (or whatever language you like). For example, this is what happens looking for articles on the Spanish Wikipedia about American bands. (In this case, right now, there are only songs, since some of the subcategories are for songs which are missing; sometimes it also picks up bands which have articles in both languages, and are just missing the link). The articles without interwikis tool is useful too. Rigadoun (talk) 19:45, 4 March 2008 (UTC)

Pika

Hi Chubbles - I thought this would be a novel way to contact you. When are you going to teach me how to use this thing? Love, Pika. (ps. remember to up the vandalism counter.)

Sorry

I'm sorry for reverting that last edit to this page! In the midst of vandal patrol, somehow my "ignore user talk pages" became unchecked. Again, my apologies. Tanthalas39 (talk) 17:44, 5 March 2008 (UTC)

Is this how?

I can't tell. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Beguiles (talk • contribs) 17:54, 5 March 2008 (UTC)

Is that what I was? I couldn't remember. I will go back to that. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Beguiles (talk • contribs) 18:30, 5 March 2008 (UTC)

Spencer Rice

Hi, I saw you deleted this title twice for a copyright violation; it's now protected, but it's unclear to me why it's being protected (Rice is the co-host of Kenny vs. Spenny). Is there further need to keep the title protected? Chubbles (talk) 18:30, 6 March 2008 (UTC)

I believe it was protected because it kept getting re-created with material that violated Wikipedia:Copyright. If that's not going to continue, then the article can be unprotected. I'll keep the copyvio material edits deleted if so...just let me know if you'll be handling the article's contents and I'll unprotect it. I think there were also concerns about notability. Dreadstar † 18:52, 6 March 2008 (UTC)

I've unprotected the title per your request, but did not restore any of the deleted material. Good luck! Dreadstar † 19:04, 6 March 2008 (UTC)

Santogold

I was going to create the article myself (which I found out was impossible anyway, as the title had been protected), but then I saw your great draft! A bit amusing though—we seem to have very similar tendencies in writing; essentially the only thing I do here is write start or stub class music articles…but you have a lot more. --Kakofonous (talk) 05:13, 7 March 2008 (UTC)

Just noticed something else: I also have (and use, very frequently) the great Biographical Encyclopedia of Jazz. --Kakofonous (talk) 05:16, 7 March 2008 (UTC)

Ambiguous link

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WikiProject hip-hop

• Hey fellow. I saw that you flagged up this Project as inactive. i agree that this is a preposterous state of affairs, and as a member of the project, i wondered if you had any ideas about how i/we/somebody else might give it a bit of a kick. Cheers in advance, tomasz. 22:14, 7 March 2008 (UTC)

In terms of regular editors whose usernames i recognise, etc., i'd say 4 or 5. Dunno if i include myself in that figure, probably though. The rest is an awful lot of article creation & editing by IPs and irregular editors who tend to generally be fans of a given artist, etc. I think i'm gonna start at the project talk page and make a general appeal, then start hitting up members on their talk pages to see if they're still here and are interested in a revival. Thanks for your ideas, lemme know if you want help defibrillating the whole topic of jazz any time ;-). Best, tomasz. 22:27, 7 March 2008 (UTC)

Thorns (band)

I see you removed the {{Notability}} tag from this article, apparently because the band has articles on other language versions of Wikipedia. Did you notice that none of the articles in other languages have any references either? The band needs to pass WP:MUSIC to meet notability criteria for inclusion here, and the article gives no indication that they do meet those criteria, hence the tag. If you feel the band is notable, perhaps you could improve the article to demonstrate this rather than just removing tags? Thanks.--Michig (talk) 19:05, 9 March 2008 (UTC)

I did go through the List of black metal bands, not because I have anything against the genre, but because I noticed that there was a pattern of dubious notability, and most articles were completely lacking in references, and many had no real indication of notability. My main aim was to identify issues with the articles in the hope that they would be improved where the bands are genuinely notable - most, I suspect, are, but many probably fail on notability. I may revisit some of them in about a month to see if they have been improved (or not), but am not aiming to delete articles other than those I have already nominated, and even with those if it turns out that notability can be demonstrated, I'll be happy for them to stay. If you can improve any of these articles, that would be great, but please use genuine inline references to indicate which statements are supported by references. Thanks.--Michig (talk) 19:20, 9 March 2008 (UTC)

And please stick to reliable sources. Thanks again. --Michig (talk) 19:21, 9 March 2008 (UTC)

Sorry, not necessarily a reference to anything you've added, but a lot of these articles use Myspace, forums, genre fansites, the band's own website, the record label's website, and 'encyclopedias' which can be edited by the bands themselves. If you could avoid these it would be helpful. Thanks. --Michig (talk) 19:25, 9 March 2008 (UTC)

Another Note of Appreciation

Great work you've done creating all those jazz-musician stubs. I've long thought there should be at least a little something here on such undeservedly neglected musicians as Don Lamond and Joe Mondragon. I have added a few such myself over the years (and in fact just added Mickey Roker before), but I never seem to find the time to do nearly all I can think of. But I just checked again and...many of those I thought of but never got around to adding are now there, thanks to you! Keep up the good work. --Alan W (talk) 02:34, 10 March 2008 (UTC)

Yes, I noticed that Roker was on your list, but only after I had added him (I think I found your list when I clicked on "What Links Here" after I had created the Roker article). Over the weekend I happened to choose a Duke Pearson CD with Roker to break in a new CD player. That reminded me of how good he is. And I also vaguely remembered that there was nothing on him on Wiki. I checked again and there still wasn't, so I figured I might as well pull together something finally and give the guy some of his due. I'll say again, good work on some of those you put out there. Joe Mondragon! I thought I'd never see him on Wiki. And yet's he's been one of those support guys who work quietly in the background, make everyone else sound good, yet rarely get the credit they deserve. All of us jazz aficionados owe you a debt of gratitude. Cheers, Alan W (talk) 02:57, 11 March 2008 (UTC)

Secrets of the Moon

Sorry I edited that article late and didn't know you edited it. −₪ÇɨгcaғucɨҲ₪ ^kaiden 05:11, 10 March 2008 (UTC)

Barry Galbraith

Hi. Didn't know about that. Is Defaultsort now completely redundant, or just where you can add the birth/death date sort? Paul20070 (talk) 13:15, 11 March 2008 (UTC)

Cheers for that. Paul20070 (talk) 13:26, 11 March 2008 (UTC)

Barnstars survey

Hi Chubbles. I'm running a small survey about wikipedian barnstars. If you have the time, I would really appreciate you taking a look and participating. The survey can be found here. Thank you! Bestchai (talk) 01:56, 12 March 2008 (UTC)

Re: Jack Brokensha

Re your message: There was very little in the article: Australian born drummer and vibraphonist. Played drums for Soupy Sales and vibraphone for the Funk Brothers. Served in the RAAF during the Second World War. -- Gogo Dodo (talk) 04:48, 12 March 2008 (UTC)

Biltmore Estate (tone issues)

Hi. Just FYI, I've removed the {{tone}} tag you placed on the Biltmore Estate article because you didn't post anything on the article's talk page to specify what tone issue(s) should be considered for adjustment. Feel free to replace the tag, but please specify what you feel should be addressed. Thanks. ++Arx Fortis (talk) 08:16, 12 March 2008 (UTC)

re:Cinema Bizarre

Hi, I noticed you removed the maintenance tags from Cinema Bizarre, saying they weren't applicable. I'm just curious why? If an article has an area where it needs improvement, those tags can alert other editors who have the expertise or knowledge to put into them. Mister Senseless™ (Speak - Contributions) 12:31, 13 March 2008 (UTC)

I felt that the article was poorly sourced , and that was part of the reason why I initially PROD'ed it. The article didn't make a clear assertion that Cinema had a single that reached No. 9 in Germany (it only said it had a single that was a "hit", and that's very ambiguous.) It was only after another editor discovered a reference proving the band's success that I removed the PROD. Mister Senseless™ (Speak - Contributions) 15:02, 13 March 2008 (UTC)

It was unclear and not sourced until someone added it after the article was PRODed. Mister Senseless™ (Speak - Contributions) 15:06, 13 March 2008 (UTC)

The article is fine now, more sources have since been added. I still think it needs work, but I know nothing about the band except from my little bit of research, and I'll leave it to someone with more expertise in the subject. Cheers... Mister Senseless™ (Speak - Contributions) 15:08, 13 March 2008 (UTC)

RE:Requests page

Ok, but I was just thinking it's a request page and that's the nature of request pages anyway. They won't be filled for some time but next edits I'll go for artists that really deserve a page. Also, "there are other ways to find important musicians which never hit the requests page." can you direct me to this place/tell me what this other way is? Sometimes I think why request pages are even here if you think like that. It's also as if you own the page. −₪ÇɨгcaғucɨҲ₪ ^kaiden 00:34, 16 March 2008 (UTC)

Newly created biography articles

Hi, when creating (or editing) articles about musicians (including bands), please consider adding {{WPBiography|musician-work-group=yes}} at the top of their talk page. As an easier, yet less effective way to integrate those articles into WikiProject Biography, you can simply add {{WPBiography}} at the top of the talk page, as with any article about persons. Regards, BNutzer (talk) 12:59, 16 March 2008 (UTC)

P.S.: {{WPBiography}} is as welcome on new biography articles' talk pages as it used to be ;) Cheers, BNutzer (talk) 21:23, 21 April 2008 (UTC)

Heinrich Nissen

Just a note to say thanks for the category language links on Heinrich Nissen. I was slowly gathering stuff for the next edit and was surprised to see the extra links. I didn't think anyone would have noticed it being created! Cheers! Alunsalt (talk) 21:06, 16 March 2008 (UTC)

Fair use rationale for Image:TheJuniorVarsity.jpg

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The Vicious Circle

Would The Vicious Circle be AFD fodder as well? -WarthogDemon 02:12, 17 March 2008 (UTC)

Well there are LOTS of hits for similarly named movie but the only other mention of this film other than here is on the creator's website. I'm beginning to think this should be a speedy, though I speedied it and it was denied. Guess I'll afd. -WarthogDemon 02:32, 17 March 2008 (UTC)

Roy Brooks

On 18 March, 2008, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Roy Brooks, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

Gimmetrow 04:06, 18 March 2008 (UTC)

Andrea Berg

Thanks - let me know if you have any (reasonably interesting!) other requests. Lfh (talk) 09:11, 18 March 2008 (UTC)

Redlinks

If an article is not likely to be created, which I believe to be the case for Stiffed, XXXchange, and Clifford Moonie Pusey, then wikipedia encourages the links to not be made per wp:red. Correct me if I am wrong, but I wouldn't want these links to go on for months without articles.--travisthurston+ 17:00, 18 March 2008 (UTC)

Grayson Hugh, redux

Thanks for the formatting help on Grayson's page!Katsmeowie (talk) 20:50, 18 March 2008 (UTC)

Chubbles, I will see Grayson tomorrow and ask him his birthdate. Thanks again for all the help!

Katsmeowie (talk) 01:19, 21 March 2008 (UTC)

Grayson Hugh, "Talk It Over"

Obviously, Grayson feels strongly about this issue. So I think if the Newton-John reference is to be made on Grayson's page, then I think it should be re-worded to set the record straight on whose song and arrangement it actually is. (Not in the above format, of course, something short, neutral and direct and, above all, true.)Katsmeowie (talk) 13:57, 21 March 2008 (UTC)

Removed Grayson's note here and elsewhere, per his request, as it was not meant to be made public.Katsmeowie (talk) 21:48, 22 March 2008 (UTC)

max wasn't on there

yea, max was needed to be added to that list now that he is in the band! —Preceding unsigned comment added by Xxxkelseyx (talk • contribs) 03:05, 24 March 2008 (UTC)

1000+ articles

Hello Chubbles. How are you? I am happy to know that you have created more than 1000 articles. The link that you provided on your user page is helpful. Regards, Masterpiece2000 (talk) 04:46, 24 March 2008 (UTC)

Ted Daffan

A proposed deletion template has been added to the article Ted Daffan, suggesting that it be deleted according to the proposed deletion process. All contributions are appreciated, but this article may not satisfy Wikipedia's criteria for inclusion, and the deletion notice should explain why (see also "What Wikipedia is not" and Wikipedia's deletion policy). You may prevent the proposed deletion by removing the {{dated prod}} notice, but please explain why you disagree with the proposed deletion in your edit summary or on its talk page. Also, please consider improving the article to address the issues raised. Even though removing the deletion notice will prevent deletion through the proposed deletion process, the article may still be deleted if it matches any of the speedy deletion criteria or it can be sent to Articles for Deletion, where it may be deleted if consensus to delete is reached. If you agree with the deletion of the article, and you are the only person who has made substantial edits to the page, please add {{db-author}} to the top of Ted Daffan. Wisdom89 _{(T / ^C)} 01:59, 27 March 2008 (UTC)

I'd appreciate it if you wouldn't condescend to me by telling me to read about WP:PROD or WP:BIAS. I know them quite well. This is kinda a non-WP:AFD WP:IKNOWIT. You were familiar with the musician. However, [5] and [6] wasn't very convincing, hence my tagging. Cheers. Wisdom89 _{(T / ^C)} 02:13, 27 March 2008 (UTC)

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Barnstar

Thanks Chubbles, that was very kind of you. I've tossed it in my "awards" section, if you don't mind. Happy editing! (Mind meal (talk) 21:26, 29 March 2008 (UTC))

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RE: Yersinia

Done. User:Chubbles/Yersinia. Cheers! Master of Puppets _{Call me MoP! :)} 06:58, 30 March 2008 (UTC)

Nah, don't mention it! :) User talk:Chubbles/Yersinia. Talk to ya later, Master of Puppets _{Call me MoP! :)} 07:23, 30 March 2008 (UTC)

RE:Point

I'm not using the current AfD to make a point. I nominated it because, based on my research via google and yahoo, they do not seem notable. Undeath (talk) 16:10, 30 March 2008 (UTC)

Chuck Wilson

The deleted article was about a fictional character in a soap opera, not a jazz musician. Deb (talk) 19:05, 5 April 2008 (UTC)

Speedy deletion of Chuck Wilson

A tag has been placed on Chuck Wilson requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section A7 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the article appears to be about a band, but it does not indicate how or why the subject is notable: that is, why an article about that subject should be included in an encyclopedia. Under the criteria for speedy deletion, articles that do not indicate the subject's importance or significance may be deleted at any time. Please see the guidelines for what is generally accepted as notable, as well as our subject-specific notability guideline for musical topics.

If you think that this notice was placed here in error, you may contest the deletion by adding {{hangon}} to the top of the page (just below the existing speedy deletion or "db" tag), coupled with adding a note on the talk page explaining your position, but be aware that once tagged for speedy deletion, if the article meets the criterion it may be deleted without delay. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag yourself, but don't hesitate to add information to the article that would would render it more in conformance with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines. Lastly, please note that if the article does get deleted, you can contact one of these admins to request that a copy be emailed to you. Dougie WII (talk) 19:37, 5 April 2008 (UTC)

[[7]]

Isn't it time you ran for admin so you can do this kind of stuff yourself? I'm much better by the way but not compleyely out of the woods yet. Spartaz ^Humbug! 21:26, 7 April 2008 (UTC)

I won't press the point but you might be surprised. You have a fantastic record rescusing articles and very rarely misjudge requests to unsalt and restore articles. I think you may be surprised how many editors will recognise and value that. Since you don't want the shiny buttons I'll just have to give you another barnstar.

		The Barnstar of High Culture
		Awarded in recognition of your amazing record of rescuing music articles - either by providing sources or complete rewrites and sheparding the resulting effort through the minefield that is WP:DRV Spartaz Humbug! 06:26, 8 April 2008 (UTC)

History undeletes for restored Articles

If an article goes back into mainspace the history needs to be undeleted to comply with the GFDL. Can you just drop a note when you do this so I can go and and do the necessary. Spartaz ^Humbug! 04:31, 10 April 2008 (UTC)

Odeon Pope article merge

Thank you for catching my gaffe. I don't know why I didn't find the earlier article on Pope when I looked. Or at least thought I looked. Much appreciated.[[Wrightjack (talk) 05:06, 10 April 2008 (UTC)]]

Audio Star(r) Award

Starr

I hereby award you with this coveted Starr in appreciation of your work on articles about musicians, bands, record labels, and related subjects. Thanks for your good work! Cheers, -- Infrogmation (talk) 21:47, 10 April 2008 (UTC)

Conelrad (band)

I didn't realize Dusted Magazine was considered a reliable source, looked like just another self-published blog to me. Good catch. They seem borderline notability to me, but two sources is good enough. Cheers. dissolve^talk 16:57, 11 April 2008 (UTC)

Four Year Strong

Thanks for improving Four Year Strong and saving this article from a future WP:AfD action for lack of notability. davidwr/(talk)/(contribs)/(e-mail) 04:07, 22 April 2008 (UTC)

It's Our Time

The notability of It's Our Time is not established just because "Rise or Die Trying" hit the charts. That song is not on this album. I'm restoring the tag. davidwr/(talk)/(contribs)/(e-mail) 04:10, 22 April 2008 (UTC)

Re: your reply on my talk page. So, once a band becomes notable, it is okay to create articles for all of their albums even those that are not notable? Thanks for bringing that to my attention. Interestingly, when it comes to book authors who are not outright famous, the opposite is true. The author page will usually have his list of works, and the non-notable ones will not be wikilinked or occasionally red-linked. davidwr/(talk)/(contribs)/(e-mail) 04:27, 22 April 2008 (UTC)

Re: the history lesson: Thanks. I was unaware that the discography convention predated the policies and guidelines. The policies and guidelines theoretically reflect established tradition. It sounds like Wikipedia:Notability (music) needs to be revised to reflect what is actually going on. I'm not sure I agree 100% with your point about all information having to go somewhere. The important information has go go somewhere, but occasionally trivial information and other cruft finds its way into album articles, as it does in any class of articles. With that in mind, yes, I agree merging is preferred over deleting. davidwr/(talk)/(contribs)/(e-mail) 04:53, 22 April 2008 (UTC)

Re: flippant. I'm not being flippant, I really was that ignorant. davidwr/(talk)/(contribs)/(e-mail) 04:58, 22 April 2008 (UTC)

Darwin's Waiting Room

Hello, I noticed the long history added by User:Hsxeric to the Darwin's Waiting Room page, and question it too. I found that it came from The Guantlet, just without the quotes in that version. He may still have written it, but I highly doubt it. The second part added regarding the dissolution and new projects looks alright, although the link to Myspace probably doesn't belong. Besides deleting the obvious problem info, I'm not too sure how to address it with that user, so I'll let you handle it. Thanks for watching the page and addressing the situation. Now, I'm really wanting to listen to their album! --Mtjaws (talk) 20:52, 24 April 2008 (UTC)

You are right, I did not write the bio portion of it, but this is Wikipedia. It's about people adding more and more information to the site to further advance the knowledge of others. I found it on some Fan-created myspace for the band. And that person must have taken it from The Gauntlet. Regardless, why is the bio now cut short to reveal very little information? I re-added the information concerning the break-up, since it was MY material. As far as the actual bio, what do you think we should do? Write a new one or use one already written? It doesn't matter to me, I just want people to be able to gain knowledge and learn about this band. Thanks. - hsxeric —Preceding unsigned comment added by Hsxeric (talk • contribs) 16:27, 26 April 2008 (UTC)

Speedy deletion of Michael Moore (bassist)

A tag has been placed on Michael Moore (bassist) requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section A7 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the article appears to be about a band, but it does not indicate how or why the subject is notable: that is, why an article about that subject should be included in an encyclopedia. Under the criteria for speedy deletion, articles that do not indicate the subject's importance or significance may be deleted at any time. Please see the guidelines for what is generally accepted as notable, as well as our subject-specific notability guideline for musical topics.

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21:38, 26 April 2008 (UTC)

RE:Request

Thanks for the note concerning the request page. When I was deleting those names, I wasn't sure if I should create redirect pages. I almost did, but resisted thinking it would create clutter. Now I know. Also, I think I can help out with that page because I noticed quite a few names that I could create articles to. I'll have a lot of free time once this semester ends. --mahlered (talk) 16:22, 30 April 2008 (UTC)

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AfD nomination of Ed Rose

I have nominated Ed Rose, an article you created, for deletion. I do not feel that this article satisfies Wikipedia's criteria for inclusion, and have explained why at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Ed Rose. Your opinions on the matter are welcome at that same discussion page; also, you are welcome to edit the article to address these concerns. Thank you for your time. Do you want to opt out of receiving this notice? Ten Pound Hammer and his otters • ^{(Broken clamshells•Otter chirps)} 20:16, 7 May 2008 (UTC)

Planning for the 7th Wikipedia Meetup

The planning for the summer Philadelphia meetup has begun. We would appreciate your input.
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Question

Hi Chubbles. I don't think we've ever crossed paths before. I've seen your stub struggles and your battle to keep pages from deletion. I stumbled across an AfD for Brad Davis (musician). I felt the artist was worth saving simply because of his notable session work. But the article is very poor and I belive most of it is a cut/paste from an external website.(but I can't prove that just yet). I left my opinion on the AfD page to keep the article. Then today a user canvassed me about another AfD for the The Gordons (duo) page. I haven't really looked at that one yet but it looks iffy. I was wondering if I could task your skills to look at the Davis page and see what you think. And, if you have time, sneak a look the The Gordons page as well. I think the user who canvassed me on that one may have a COI issue? Either way I don't really care for being prodded to vote on an AfD. I just browse them periodically. I have a personal interest in the Davis article as I feel he is a notable session/sidesmen. I, myself, have done sessions for hundreds of movies, TV programs and commercials. We are forgotten in the music notability mix sometimes. I would never consider having a Wikipedia article for myself based on the work I've done. But Mr. Davis' resume puts him at a level that I feel is worthy of Wikipedia. What do you think? Cheers and take care! Anger22 (Talk 2 22) 16:38, 17 May 2008 (UTC)

Whoops. Just to follow-up, the Davis AfD nom was withdrawn. Don't know about the other. Anger22 (Talk 2 22) 18:21, 17 May 2008 (UTC)

List of artists who reached number one on the U.S. dance chart‎

Hey, letting you know I've reverted your edit. "Nice & Slow" by Jesse Green hit #3 on the dance chart, not #1. - eo (talk) 16:00, 19 May 2008 (UTC)

Hmmm, interesting. I'm guessing AMG's list is an error - I've got the Joel Whitburn Dance/Disco book and it has a #3 peak. I'll check in Billboard.biz's archive page, but I don't know if they go back to 1976. - eo (talk) 16:04, 19 May 2008 (UTC)

Powerspace edits

Chubbles, The info you keep putting back on the Powerspace page is wrong. Myself & the other editor should know whats correct. We are 2 of the band members fathers. Also, nothing was copied & pasted until you started changing it back. We only copied & pasted our own writings. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Wizard917 (talk • contribs) 15:59, 22 May 2008 (UTC)

RE: Powerspace

"We" refers to myself & the other father. Yes, we both have accounts. He is the one who rewrote it, I only made minor changes. Let mme try to change what's there to correct it. Let me know what you think. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Wizard917 (talk • contribs) 16:56, 22 May 2008 (UTC)

This user contunues to vandavise The trend Records Article on here. He deletes it —Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.14.70.83 (talk) 17:38, 26 May 2008 (UTC)