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Youth League U15 page deletion

Dear Edgar181 sir, why did you delete the page about the u15 youth league of india?There are so many waste pages i have been seeing from last 7 years hardly contain one or two links. My atricle was truly genuine with more than 10 links.Can you explain me what was wrong? It's possible to do something different? Let me know Andrea Abhishe78 (talk) 19:15, 1 September 2018 (UTC)

To be included in Wikipedia, an organization must meet certain notability criteria (see WP:N for details). Youth League U15 has already been determined to be non-notable by Wikipedia standards (Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Youth League U15, Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/I-League Youth U15, Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/2017–18 Youth League U15, etc.), so the topic is unsuitable for Wikipedia. -- Ed (Edgar181) 21:55, 1 September 2018 (UTC)

Than why are you not deleting another article called Youth League U18 This article is also similar to mine How can i get my article back? Abhishe78 (talk) 03:30, 2 September 2018 (UTC)

If there is an article comparable to the one that has been repeatedly deleted, then it should probably be deleted too. -- Ed (Edgar181) 10:06, 2 September 2018 (UTC)

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Request for deletion

I need to request you that please delete the page User talk:Ram The Editor as the CSD g5 because it was created by Ram The Editor, who is a banned or blocked user and that user violated the ban or a block by creating User talk:Ram The Editor. Thank you. 122.162.150.232 (talk) 16:37, 6 September 2018 (UTC)

Considering that deletion of that page has already been declined by two different admins, I think this is something that would be best handled through Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion. -- Ed (Edgar181) 17:11, 6 September 2018 (UTC)

Continuation of "Request for deletion"

That page (User talk:Ram The Editor) was created by a blocked or a banned user (Ram The Editor), so that page should be deleted as g5 because that user is violating a ban or a block. So please delete User talk:Ram The Editor as g5. 122.162.150.232 (talk) 17:26, 6 September 2018 (UTC)

I have also requested deletion at Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion. I created Wikipedia talk:Miscellany for deletion/User talk:Ram The Editor for requesting. I created it as a talk page because IP addresses can not create project pages. So please understand as a request be a "Wikipedia talk:" page. But I created Wikipedia talk:Miscellany for deletion/User talk:Ram The Editor/GA1 by mistake as there is no GA1 at the page name. Please also delete Wikipedia talk:Miscellany for deletion/User talk:Ram The Editor/GA1 as that page was created by mistake. You can also delete User talk:Ram The Editor from there. Thank you. 122.162.150.232 (talk) 17:54, 6 September 2018 (UTC)

Thanks for creating the MFD. I deleted the page created in error, but it's best to defer to the MFD for the other page. -- Ed (Edgar181) 18:47, 6 September 2018 (UTC)

Dave Roller on Wikipedia

Attn: User talk:Edgar181

Thank your for your kind response Edgar181 to my concerns for Dave Roller's information that was suddenly deleted twice by User: Gonzofan2007 after being on Wikipedia for over 10+ years with no problem. Gonzofan2007 has now deleted Dave Roller's information for a third time after I posted my concerns in the Tea house (which was one the options given to communicate) and he added that he decided not to block me. There is no need to block me for I will NOT be adding anymore information on Dave Roller. It is too confusing as to what was wrong with his information that Gonzofan2007 would delete all of Dave Roller's information. And it is even more confusing as to what is needed to correct Dave Roller's information to conform to Gonzofan2007's standards or concerns. I did not respond to the reply from Gonzofan2007 since he deleted all of Dave Roller information instead of being informative enough to help correct whatever he felt was wrong.

I will inform Mr. Roller so he can contact his fan base to let them know the reason he is no longer on Wikipedia. It is VERY DISAPPOINTING to know that Wikipedia does not want truthful and informative information published. Makes me wonder what other informative information is withheld on others. But it makes me VERY SAD for Dave Roller that he will no longer be included.

I guess if he is ever on Wikipedia again the information about him will come from one of your writers that are less knowledgeable of his history. You mentioned that you had made a few changes to his information on Wikipedia. Thank you for your time in doing so but I never had the opportunity to read your corrections because Gonzofan2007 deleted everything. I don't know why anyone would want to add to information on Wikipedia if this is the way they are treated. I am so disappointed. And it is with great sadness that I have to tell Dave Roller to stop referring his fans to Wikipedia because his information is no longer featured.

Again, thanks for your kindness. Gonzofan2007 was not so kind and I will not be responding to him anymore. He is a Packer fan so perhaps he knows more about Dave Roller than Mr Roller knows about himself. I sure hope he is not targeting Mr. Roller because he played for the Vikings after being released from the Packers. I have seen many others on Wikipedia with similar formats as what was used for Dave Roller and deleted. So it makes me wonder what the true reason his information was deleted and labeled a stub.

User: Mmm1313

  • Gonzofan2007 was absolutely correct to revert this unencyclopedic fan page version [1], and has done a more than credible job rewriting and sourcing the biography to meet the guidelines. 2601:188:180:1481:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 20:29, 18 September 2018 (UTC)
I agree. The version by Gonzo fan2007 is a far better encyclopedia article and certainly more compliant with Wikipedia's guidelines for biographies. -- Ed (Edgar181) 11:22, 19 September 2018 (UTC)

User:GanonsBane

Hello. I need to let you know that user:GanonsBane is talking on her talk page about wanting to die. I am not sure how to handle this. CLCStudent (talk) 13:48, 19 September 2018 (UTC)

I'll handle it. Thanks for letting me know. For future reference, Wikipedia:Responding to threats of harm is the guidance to follow. -- Ed (Edgar181) 13:49, 19 September 2018 (UTC)

Changes to update

Hi - I do work at Portsmouth Grammar School, the page I made changes on. The changes I made were purely to give more up to date information than is currently on the page rather than for any other purpose. Most of the page detail currently is very out of date, though strangely the name of our Head has been updated and she only started here this summer. If you can advise on how I can request updates that'd be great. Thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by EML 100 (talk • contribs) 13:12, 26 September 2018 (UTC)

I reverted the changes you made to the article because they were unacceptably promotional (and apparently copied from the school's website). I left a set of helpful suggestions on your talk page on how to proceed, including the recommendation to use the article's talk page, Talk:Portsmouth Grammar School, to suggest changes to the article instead of making them yourself. If there are errors that need to be corrected or updates that should be made, another editor may then make the changes to the article based on your suggestions. -- Ed (Edgar181) 13:29, 26 September 2018 (UTC)

Please comment on Wikipedia:Reliable sources/Noticeboard

The feedback request service is asking for participation in this request for comment on Wikipedia:Reliable sources/Noticeboard. Legobot (talk) 04:24, 28 September 2018 (UTC)

Image of Pamabrom

Hello, the image is incorrect, one double bond is missing (in the pyrrole part). See https://pubchem.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/compound/pamabrom BTW thank you for creating so many nice chemical images. — Preceding unsigned comment added by SMILESmaster (talk • contribs) 06:57, 30 September 2018 (UTC)

You're right. Thanks for catching the mistake and letting me know. I have now corrected the image. -- Ed (Edgar181) 11:29, 30 September 2018 (UTC)

Acetamiprid

Hi Edgar,
A new question for CAS number for this compound which have PubChem CID#213021, I found two numbers:

  • CAS #135410-20-7
  • CAS #160430-64-8

what's the difference between them? may be it's about the stereochemistry around the imine fonction ... Thanks for your help --Titou (talk) 14:41, 30 September 2018 (UTC)

CAS# 135410-20-7 is for acetamiprid with E geometry at the imine double bond
CAS# 160430-64-8 is for acetamiprid with unspecified geometry at the imine double bond
There does not appear to be a CAS# for the Z isomer. -- Ed (Edgar181) 15:29, 30 September 2018 (UTC)
Okay, thanks a lot ! --Titou (talk) 08:27, 1 October 2018 (UTC)

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Ureas

Urea is only about urea. Ureas redirects to urea, but only 2-3 articles link to ureas. Somehow we need an article about the myriad ureas that are out there. So I was thinking of converting ureas to that collective article. If you have alternative ideas, please suggest them. --Smokefoot (talk) 15:47, 7 October 2018 (UTC)

I think that is a good idea. Chemical compounds that include a urea functional group are fairly common and Wikipedia should have an article about them, not just an article about urea itself. -- Ed (Edgar181) 19:29, 7 October 2018 (UTC)

Sock

You blocked Special:Contributions/Genyoucankimya as a sock; well Special:Contributions/OpikBenk has popped up doing the same nonsense. Could ya block em? Galobtter (pingó mió) 20:21, 8 October 2018 (UTC)

Done. Thanks for letting me know. -- Ed (Edgar181) 22:11, 8 October 2018 (UTC)

Legal Threat

Hello there. I saw you active on AIV. You might want to have a look at this legal threat. — LeoFrank  Talk 14:34, 15 October 2018 (UTC)

Thanks for letting me know. I have blocked the use for making a legal threat. Regards, -- Ed (Edgar181) 14:43, 15 October 2018 (UTC)

Cefiderocol drugbox

Thanks for your edits to the drugbox in the Cefiderocol article -- can I ask how did you do it so quickly? Do you have special tools for this, or did you do everything manually? -- The Anome (talk) 17:39, 26 October 2018 (UTC)

The data I added came from PubChem. It only took a moment to manually copy-and-paste it. The chemical structure image took a couple of minutes to manually draw. I used MarvinSketch. -- Ed (Edgar181) 17:47, 26 October 2018 (UTC)
Amazing! That's fantastic work. Thank you again. -- The Anome (talk) 17:57, 26 October 2018 (UTC)

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Thanks

Hi Edgar, many thanks for blocking that IP user.Satin17 (talk) 10:53, 31 October 2018 (UTC)

I'm glad to help. -- Ed (Edgar181) 12:49, 31 October 2018 (UTC)

Ok.Satin17 (talk) 14:26, 31 October 2018 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

The Special Barnstar
Just wanted to say thanks for dealing with that incident extremely quickly, Not saying all admins are slow but I was just impressed with how quick you dealt with it so many thanks for that :),

Thanks, –Davey2010Talk 18:49, 31 October 2018 (UTC)

Thanks. I just happened to be around at the right time.  :) -- Ed (Edgar181) 18:50, 31 October 2018 (UTC)
Haha alls I can say is that god you were :), Many thanks again, Take care, –Davey2010Talk 18:52, 31 October 2018 (UTC)

Midazolam

Hi Edgar. I have never edited wiki before. I notice on the Midazolam page that it doesn't mention subcutaneous use in the top section. We use it daily in palliative care. Could you make a change? Thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.196.165.108 (talk) 01:46, 1 November 2018 (UTC)

It's already mentioned in the article. See the section Midazolam#End_of_life_care. Are there changes that you would suggest to that section? -- Ed (Edgar181) 11:27, 1 November 2018 (UTC)

Høgni Mohr

I see that yesterday you blocked user Nudlavirkid for refusing to disclose a conflict of interest in relation to the article Høgni Mohr. After this happened, user Frayæ edited the article to make it acceptable to Wikipedia (although I think the subject's notability is questionable).

Now a new, single-purpose editor has appeared, user Rolsenl, and replaced much of the promotional text. I will leave you to decide what relationship, if any, this editor bears to Nudlavirkid. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 09:42, 2 November 2018 (UTC)

It certainly looks like block evasion to me, so I requested that a checkuser have a look: Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Nudlavirkid. I think it's is worthwhile to unambiguously confirm the socking when PR firms are involved. -- Ed (Edgar181) 11:42, 2 November 2018 (UTC)

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request for svg image

OSU-03012

When you get a chance

Mfernflower (talk) 21:02, 3 November 2018 (UTC)

I created a new .svg image and added it to the article. Regards, -- Ed (Edgar181) 11:40, 4 November 2018 (UTC)

fr:Acétamidoglycine

Hi,

Could you find the CAS number for this compound, please ? see too File:Acetamidoglycine.png, this french article seems to have no interwiki link... --Titou (talk) 11:05, 4 November 2018 (UTC)

I think fr:Acétamidoglycine is incorrect. The CAS# for the compound in the image File:Acetamidoglycine.png is 30833-88-6. SciFinder shows almost no use of this compound in the chemical literature. It is not mentioned in Good's 1966 paper that introduces Good's buffers (doi:10.1021/bi00866a011). The compound in that paper is different: I have created the image File:Acetamidoglycine.svg for the correct structure. The CAS for this compound is 7365-83-5 and I created a Wikidata item for it (Q58209720). Regards, -- Ed (Edgar181) 11:39, 4 November 2018 (UTC)
very strange, If that you say is right then the PubChem page CID 23171574 is false too ?? Acetamidoglycine refers to (2-acetylhydrazinyl)acetic acid and the .svg you make refers to [(2-amino-2-oxoethyl)amino]acetic acid (verified with ChemSketch)--Titou (talk) 06:38, 5 November 2018 (UTC)
I read the Good's 1966 article doi:10.1021/bi00866a011 with Sci-Hub and table I gives IX : acetamidoglycine for H2NCOCH2N+H2CH2COO- then ... may be the word "acetamidoglycine" is too vague and corresponds to several compounds according to the insertion of which side of the acetamide on glycine : N side-acetamido-glycine (the french article) or C side-acetamido-glycine (Good's 1966 article)?? In any case, it seems to me that usually acetamido- refers to the N-side insertion that retains the methyl group and there is too then same couple of compounds with 3-acetamido-glycine= N-acétamido-glycine --Titou (talk) 07:10, 5 November 2018 (UTC)
I would not rely on PubChem for accurate information. It is known to have many errors and it is not well curated. I agree that there are two chemical compounds which are known and can be named as "acetamidoglycine". The French article is clearly intended to be about the one used as a buffer, so the box should be changed to match the data for File:Acetamidoglycine.svg (CAS#7365-83-5). The other chemical compound (File:Acetamidoglycine.png/CAS#30833-88-6) is not notable, in my opinion, and does not need to be written about on Wikipedia. -- Ed (Edgar181) 13:05, 5 November 2018 (UTC)
okay, okay but on wp:fr, it's accepted that all chemical compound, no matter how insignificant, may have an article and in fact, it's 4 compounds that can be called acetamidoglycine... So we already have a nice article on the N side-2-acetamido-glycine which we must delete the reference Good's 1966 and remains to write one on the C-2-acetamido-glycine, fr:WP: NHP in french = WP:BB! cheers! --Titou (talk) 16:58, 5 November 2018 (UTC)
I create File:All acetamidoglycines.svg. In fact, there are 6 acetamidoglycines counting each compound of the enantiomeric pairs. Now, the problem is to find correct name for all. I already know that between the top and bottom two compounds it's 3-acetamido glycine or N-acetamidoglycine at the top (in contrary what I write above) and 2-acetamidoglycine at the bottom. I don't know a descriptor that indicates by which side a radical binds and I don't see any other way to discriminate each compound on a line keeping acetamidoglycine in the full name. Help ? I modified the fr article by deleting all references to Good's 1996 until I can rename it and transform the fr:Acétamidoglycine page into an homonymy page.--Titou (talk) 05:10, 6 November 2018 (UTC)
That sounds like a good plan. Regards, -- Ed (Edgar181) 00:33, 7 November 2018 (UTC)

Vandalism on page Survivor Series (2018)

I am currently witnessing Vandalism on the Survivor Series 2018 page. every time there is absolutely no reliable source I emailed them on there respective user pages, I keeped telling them to stop and they won't listen, Can You Protect the Page Fully please. Thanks ! :) TUB3900 (talk) 00:19, 7 November 2018 (UTC)

I'm sorry, but I don't know enough about that topic to easily figure out which edits are good and which aren't. I suggest making a request at WP:RFPP where other admins who might be better able to help will see it. Regards, -- Ed (Edgar181) 00:36, 7 November 2018 (UTC)

IP socking

171.33.200.84 is a sock of 77.102.245.28 – they've made very similar edits on multiple articles. Modernponderer (talk) 18:58, 7 November 2018 (UTC)

I have now blocked that IP. Thanks for letting me know. -- Ed (Edgar181) 22:22, 7 November 2018 (UTC)

request to delete category I made by accident:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Nitroarenes


Mfernflower (talk) 20:12, 7 November 2018 (UTC)

No problem, I have deleted it. -- Ed (Edgar181) 22:20, 7 November 2018 (UTC)

Chromium acetate

Hey Edgar181, thanks for the category implementation that you put into the article! As you probably know, I created Chromium(III) acetate earlier today, and didn't include any linkage to the article anywhere else on wikipedia, and also hadn't yet created categories. How were you able to find the article then? Did you stumble on it on accident, or was there a tool you used, or... UtopianPoyzin (talk) 02:29, 13 November 2018 (UTC)

I occassionaly look at the page User:AlexNewArtBot/ChemistrySearchResult which lists new articles related to chemistry topics. Someone has set up an automatated program that searches new article creations and sorts them by topic areas. -- Ed (Edgar181) 12:20, 13 November 2018 (UTC)
You can also use the new pages feed, if you're just interested in looking through new articles regardless of topic; that's how I came across it. Blythwood (talk) 20:50, 13 November 2018 (UTC)

Epoxides

Ed, now I have myself slightly confused about nomenclature. If you have any advice, offer it. Epoxybutene or epoxybutane? Butene oxide follows ethylene oxide example. --Smokefoot (talk) 21:28, 17 November 2018 (UTC)

As far as I can tell, all those names are used, along with "butylene oxide". Other than "epoxybutene", which is amiguous with respect to compounds such as this, I think any of the others are fine. -- Ed (Edgar181) 21:35, 17 November 2018 (UTC)

Edit question

In this edit, you added some templates. I removed the prior edit as a copyright policy issue. I was tempted to simply restore your templates but now I'm wondering if they were motivated by the prior edit in which case they aren't necessary or other issues in which case they are needed. I'll leave the call up to you, but I have not restored the templates.

(I see this is moot as you have subsequently edited).--S Philbrick(Talk) 13:19, 19 November 2018 (UTC)

I restored the {{peacock}} template because I think it still applies after your revert. I added the COI template because of the obvious username connection of the editor you reverted, so I don't think that necessarily applies anymore (though considering the tone of the article, it may still be the product of editors with a COI, but I haven't looked closely). -- Ed (Edgar181) 13:32, 19 November 2018 (UTC)

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Vestronidase alfa-vjbk - Updates

Hi there - I am inquiring about a proposed content update to the Vestronidase alfa-vjbk page from editor Gary at Ultragenyx on August 2, 2018. Can you share a status update on the publication of this content? Will it be published to the Article page in the future?

104.188.97.112 (talk) 01:17, 21 November 2018 (UTC)

I left a comment at Talk:Vestronidase alfa-vjbk. -- Ed (Edgar181) 01:29, 21 November 2018 (UTC)

Semi protect request

Hi there. Could Bradley Beal please be semi protected. Lots of random vandalism of late. Cheers. DaHuzyBru (talk) 15:04, 21 November 2018 (UTC)

 Done -- Ed (Edgar181) 15:04, 21 November 2018 (UTC)

Comment on a block

I was surprised to see your "softerblock" on Biggsale. It looks to me like as unambiguous spam as any I have ever seen. Obviously, it was your block, and your judgement as to how to block, but it's not what I would have done. The editor who uses the pseudonym "JamesBWatson" (talk) 21:41, 25 November 2018 (UTC)

My choice of block was based on the lack of warning or notice from users that what they were doing isn't appropriate (just one bot warning about Youtube generally not being an acceptable source). Looking back, you're probably right that something like {{uw-spamublock}} would have been better. -- Ed (Edgar181) 00:25, 26 November 2018 (UTC)
I agree with you about "the lack of warning or notice from users that what they were doing isn't appropriate". Ideally I would not block any editor in this situation, but would just give them a friendly warning. Unfortunately, though, when I first became an administrator I found that if I did that then almost always another administrator would come along and block them with what I thought was a very unhelpful block notice. Sometimes they were given an unnecessarily aggressive response, such as the horrendous intimidating wall of text that the "spamusername" template was then. (Do you remember what it used to look like?) At other times an administrator would try to be kinder, but I think giving a block which is too soft can be just as unhelpful and unfair to a new editor as giving one which is too hard. Something which used to be very common was as follows. A promotional editor would be blocked with the "usernameblock" templated message, which says in bold print "Your username is the only reason for this block. You are welcome to choose a new username (see below) and continue editing." The editor would then create a new account and continue editing in the same way as before. Then they would find they were blocked again for doing exactly what an administrator had told them they could do. What a wonderful way to bite a new editor! Some administrators made it even worse, by various means, such as accusing the editor of block-evasion. Very reluctantly I decided that the lesser evil was to block and give what I thought was a more helpful block message, rather than post a friendly warning, in the knowledge that far more likely than not the outcome would be a block which I regarded as unfair and unhelpful.
I used past tenses there, because although similar things still happen, they do so much less often. "Spamusername" blocks are now much less intimidating than they were, since three years ago Bishonen rewrote the template in a much better way. (Actually her rewrite was closely based on a message I created for my own use, because I hated the standard one.) Meanwhile inappropriate username blocks seem to me to be far less common, possibly because administrators are less reluctant to use the newer spamusername block template than the old one. A "softerblock", such as the one you used in this case, is much better in this situation than a "username" block, but it does, in my opinion, have two drawbacks when used for a promotional editor: (1) although it does mention promotion and conflict of interest, it does so only incidentally, and emphasises only the username issue, which in my experience can lead to editors thinking that changing user name and continuing editing in the same way will be OK; (2) it encourages editors to make a new account rather than requesting an unblock, which can make it difficult to monitor them: a new account making similar edits to pages in a new user space may not be noticed. For those reasons I prefer to use a spamusername block whenever the editing has been unambiguously promotional. In cases where I feel that even the current spamusername template is too harsh I post a customised block message: although it takes a little more time, there is no reason to think we always have to use one of the standard messages.
Hmm. That turned out to be a far longer and more extensive account of my thoughts on this matter than I thought I was going to write when I started. However, you may find it of some interest, and if you don't then just ignore it. The editor who uses the pseudonym "JamesBWatson" (talk) 18:59, 28 November 2018 (UTC)
@JamesBWatson: When I first started using {{softerblock}} (many years ago now), I had the same concern you express above that it would allow, or even encourage, recipients to immediately create a new account and just continue the same promotional editing. So for the first month or so I looked after 24 hours at each account that I soft blocked for any evidence that they had returned under a different username. I was not able find a single example of that happening. Obviously, I can't be sure that I would necessarily be able to find someone doing that, but the fact that I couldn't find any case suggests that it is at least rare. Anyone who is determined to spam Wikipedia is not going to be deterred by a hard block anyway - changing IP and signing up for a new account isn't difficult. So overall, I've come the conclusion that whether someone is soft blocked or hard blocked for promotional editing doesn't make much of a difference. -- Ed (Edgar181) 12:48, 29 November 2018 (UTC)
That's an interesting observation. For what it's worth, my feeling is that the wording of the talk page block notice probably makes far more difference than whether autoblocking and account creation blocking are in place or not. Most promotional editors are not determined spammers, but good faith editors who genuinely didn't realise that promotion was unacceptable, and making that clear is the main thing. I have, however, seen many cases over the years where the blocked editor has returned with a new account to promote again, but I have not taken notice of how often the block was a hard one and how often a soft one, or how often the return has been within 24 hours, so I can't make a precise assessment of how much difference the type of block makes. The editor who uses the pseudonym "JamesBWatson" (talk) 13:34, 29 November 2018 (UTC)

Evolution of Netsepoye hawesi may require undeletion

You just deleted Evolution of Netsepoye hawesi following the AfD. I noticed that the student author (Phoebemcgowin) did very properly move her draft into mainspace without retaining a copy of the material (at least not online); and the same goes for the extensive peer reviews by other students that were on the talk page. She was already getting upset in the AfD about not going to have anything to show up for marking. - I think it would be a kindness to make available a copy of the article and talk pages for her to show her instructor. She won't know how to ask about that, so I thought I'd put it to you. Cheers --Elmidae (talk · contribs) 13:49, 26 November 2018 (UTC)

Thanks for letting me know about this potential issue. I have left a message for Phoebemcgowin offering to supply to the text of either the article or the talk page if she needs it. Regards, -- Ed (Edgar181) 14:00, 26 November 2018 (UTC)

I need you to email me a copy of what I had written. This is for my class assignment and now all of my information is GONE!!! Please send me what YOU deleted ASAP. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Phoebemcgowin (talk • contribs) 19:08, 26 November 2018 (UTC)

I have replied to your email with the text of the two pages. Regards, -- Ed (Edgar181) 19:26, 26 November 2018 (UTC)
Thank you for doing that Ed. For future reference, can I, as the instructor, access these "deleted" articles if I need to? Laurakreed (talk) 03:55, 27 November 2018 (UTC)
Yes, you can ask me or any other administrator for the deleted text. -- Ed (Edgar181)

Aceglutamide

Hi,

This compound with a chiral carbon atom have, I think, CAS number #2490-97-3 for the racemate and may be #35305-74-9 for the S-enantiomer, is it right ? Could you find the CAS number for the R-enantiomer ? thanks --Titou (talk) 17:29, 26 November 2018 (UTC)

Here's what I found:
CAS# 5817-09-4 is aceglutamide with unspecified sterechemistry (racemate)
CAS# 2490-97-3 is the (S)-isomer
CAS# 161579-61-9 is the (R)-isomer
CAS# 35305-74-9 is for a structural isomer with the acetyl group on the amide of L-glutamine ((S)-glutamine)
-- Ed (Edgar181) 18:06, 26 November 2018 (UTC)
Thanks a lot, I put this good CAS numbers on fr:Acéglutamide. On Aceglutamide, I can put the numbers but without the comments. Could you see how to put them? I don't know the en:wp syntax --Titou (talk) 13:20, 27 November 2018 (UTC)
 Done -- Ed (Edgar181) 13:27, 27 November 2018 (UTC)

Vandalism

Hello,

user NewInterstate just did another vandal content removing in the article Benzo(a)pyrene without giving any explanation. He has been warned for vandalism previously, but he blanked his talk page. Could you please do something about it? — Assaiki (talk) 06:55, 27 November 2018 (UTC)

I wouldn't call the edit at Benzo(a)pyrene vandalism. It looks like it was an attempt to fix the formatting of the title. I have restored the previous version. -- Ed (Edgar181) 12:50, 27 November 2018 (UTC)
There is clear vandalism from this account that I missed earlier and I have now indef blocked the account. -- Ed (Edgar181) 01:08, 28 November 2018 (UTC)

3-Hydroxybutanal

Hi Ed,

Still a problem of CAS numbers of a racemate and it enantiomers, The C3 of 3-Hydroxybutanal is chiral then I imagine that 107-89-1 is the CAS number of racemate and may be the enantiomer have too CAS number. Could you see what you find on Chemical Abstract, please --Titou (talk) 15:18, 28 November 2018 (UTC)

CAS# 107-89-1 is 3-hydroxybutanal, 117706-97-5 is (R)-3-hydroxybutanal, 117706-98-6 is (S)-3-hydroxybutanal. -- Ed (Edgar181) 17:24, 28 November 2018 (UTC)
oh thanks a lot - it's possible to make the same with 3-Hydroxybutanone #513-86-0 for which its C3 is chiral too? please --Titou (talk) 05:34, 29 November 2018 (UTC)
CAS# 513-86-0 is 3-hydroxybutanone, 53584-56-8 is (R)-3-hydroxybutanone, and 78183-56-9 is (S)-3-hydroxybutanone. -- Ed (Edgar181) 12:54, 29 November 2018 (UTC)

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Sent by MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 03:36, 3 December 2018 (UTC)

Page deleted in error?

Hello, Edgar181! I just noticed that on October 15, 2018, you deleted the page User:MelanieN/Barnstars, citing U1. Was this a mistake? There was no U1 or any other kind of speedy-deletion tag on the page. Could you please restore the page, and take a look at what happened here? Is it possible your account got compromised around that time? -- MelanieN (talk) 15:18, 3 December 2018 (UTC)

@MelanieN: Indeed, it was a mistake. I think I have figured out what happened. On that same day, you had marked User:MelanieN/Editor of the week screen with {{db-u1}}. Since User:MelanieN/Barnstars transcludes that other page, your deletion request appeared on both pages. I apparently did not notice that the barnstars page was not directly tagged with the deletion request. I apologize for the mistake. -- Ed (Edgar181) 15:30, 3 December 2018 (UTC)
Ok, thanks. It's a relief to know this was not another case of compromise; we have had way too much of that recently. -- MelanieN (talk) 15:36, 3 December 2018 (UTC)

IP Block

Thank you for blocking 86.174.57.33 after they were vandalizing pages with the .jpg! That file should be restricted as well. SouthernKangaroo (talk) 15:55, 5 December 2018 (UTC)

I already deleted the image from Commons, so it shouldn't be an issue anymore. (If you're still seeing it, you may need to clear your browser's cache.) -- Ed (Edgar181) 15:58, 5 December 2018 (UTC)
That's even better! I don't think there should be a problem, though - I'm definitely staying away from that stuff. SouthernKangaroo (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 16:20, 5 December 2018 (UTC)

Special:Contributions/84.92.88.76

Please revoke TPA. Thanks ―Abelmoschus Esculentus talk / contribs 14:30, 11 December 2018 (UTC)

Done. Thanks for letting me know. -- Ed (Edgar181) 14:37, 11 December 2018 (UTC)

Ethyl glucuronide

Hi Edgar181. Thank you for making these changes. I made more new mistakes than I corrected... Don't you think it would also make sense to change the picture in the German article to the same as in the English one? Then I can explain in both texts that the beta anomer is the one produced by the human body during ethanol metabolization, and it's just not further specified in the pictures. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Rtheburger (talk • contribs) 16:24, 14 December 2018 (UTC)

Please feel free to make changes to the German article if you wish. My German is poor, so I don't have the confidence to edit there much. Thanks for your efforts to improve the article. -- Ed (Edgar181) 19:58, 14 December 2018 (UTC)

Regarding that recent UAA report

See User talk:Retardednamingpolicy. I would feel more comfortable if another uninvolved administrator took a look and assessed the situation, but it does seem like they're NOTHERE. ceranthor 17:05, 14 December 2018 (UTC)

That response to your request was entirely unacceptable. Personal attacks, inappropriate username, and your WP:NOTHERE concerns have led me to block the account for now. Thanks for letting me know. -- Ed (Edgar181) 20:00, 14 December 2018 (UTC)
Thanks. I feel the same way but didn't want the block to seem retaliatory or punitive. ceranthor 00:56, 15 December 2018 (UTC)

CHES (buffer)

Hi Edgar,

For this compound on PubChem CID 66898, there is two CAS numbers :

  • 103-47-9
  • 134737-05-6

Could you see what is the difference between them, please ? --Titou (talk) 17:15, 15 December 2018 (UTC)

103-47-9 is the correct CAS Number for CHES. 134737-05-6 is the CAS number for something unrelated (Quaternium-80). -- Ed (Edgar181) 17:44, 15 December 2018 (UTC)

Undelete

Anything redeemable from the previous incarnation of BGR-34? ∯WBGconverse 21:07, 15 December 2018 (UTC)

No, the prior version was promotional and unreferenced. -- Ed (Edgar181) 12:38, 16 December 2018 (UTC)

Merry Merry

Happy Christmas!
Hello Edgar181,
Early in A Child's Christmas in Wales the young Dylan and his friend Jim Prothero witness smoke pouring from Jim's home. After the conflagration has been extinguished Dylan writes that

Nobody could have had a noisier Christmas Eve. And when the firemen turned off the hose and were standing in the wet, smoky room, Jim's Aunt, Miss. Prothero, came downstairs and peered in at them. Jim and I waited, very quietly, to hear what she would say to them. She said the right thing, always. She looked at the three tall firemen in their shining helmets, standing among the smoke and cinders and dissolving snowballs, and she said, "Would you like anything to read?"

My thanks to you for your efforts to keep the 'pedia readable in case the firemen chose one of our articles :-) Best wishes to you and yours and happy editing in 2019. MarnetteD|Talk 20:35, 18 December 2018 (UTC)
Thank you! Happy Christmas to you as well. -- Ed (Edgar181) 23:28, 18 December 2018 (UTC)

Brilliant Blue FCF

Are you going to edit Brilliant Blue FCF? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.100.127.222 (talk) 13:27, 19 December 2018 (UTC)

I didn't have any plans to. Is there something I can help with? -- Ed (Edgar181) 13:28, 19 December 2018 (UTC)

Soundwalk Collective

Hey Ed,

I am new to Wikipedia and I created this account to update the info on a sound-art group that I am a fan of and have followed their work extensively. I made some edits to the page with this username, I referenced all of the updates I made, I also made sure they complied with the wikipedia standards. The page how now reverted back, and therefore it is missing a lot of important information about the collective's work. One of the band members real name is back to being wrong for instance. What can I do to build the page into a better representation?

Best Robert. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 80.6.161.187 (talk) 15:46, 20 December 2018 (UTC)

I blocked the account named "Collectivesoundwalk" because it matched the name of an organization, which isn't permitted. Since your username has now been changed, I have unblocked this account and you should be able to login as Sonnenalle44 and you are free to edit again. If you have questions about why your changes were reversed, you can discuss it with the individual who made those changes, User:Galobtter, or you can start a discussion on the article's talk page, Talk:Soundwalk Collective. Regards, -- Ed (Edgar181) 17:54, 20 December 2018 (UTC)

Merry Xmas

Merry Christmas and a Prosperous 2019!

Hello Edgar181, may you be surrounded by peace, success and happiness on this seasonal occasion. Spread the WikiLove by wishing another user a Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year, whether it be someone you have had disagreements with in the past, a good friend, or just some random person. Sending you heartfelt and warm greetings for Christmas and New Year 2019.
Happy editing,
Doc James (talk · contribs · email) 06:15, 25 December 2018 (UTC)

Spread the love by adding {{subst:Seasonal Greetings}} to other user talk pages.

Thank you! Merry Christmas and happy New Year to you as well. -- Ed (Edgar181) 13:29, 26 December 2018 (UTC)

Draft:Lutidinic acid

Hello Edgar181, could you please move it back to the article space? Many thanks and Merry Christmas JWBE (talk) 13:47, 25 December 2018 (UTC)

The redirect had been removed, so I could now move it. Greetings JWBE (talk) 22:25, 25 December 2018 (UTC)

C4H8O isomers

Hi and Merry Christmas,

To complet the french page fr:C4H8O, could you see if the two pairs of enantiomers of 2-méthyl cyclopropanol, and racemates cis, trans and total have CAS number, please. In fact, I ask you after a IP have see there is a mistake - see talkpage #one missing isomere and before I correct the picture. In this movement, could you see too for the tautomers of butanal, there are two CAS numbers for the mixing stereoisomers, butenol-1, #56640-69-8, #57323-59-8, why? and for the stereoisomers, E-butenol-1 and Z-butenol-1, have they CAS number ?? thanks in advance --Titou (talk) 09:56, 26 December 2018 (UTC)
PS:it miss too CAS number for 1-méthyl cyclopropanol PubChem CID #11564466 ...

I will check soon when I have a little more time. -- Ed (Edgar181) 13:30, 26 December 2018 (UTC)
Here is what I found:
2-Methylcyclopropanol (undefined stereochemistry) CAS# 62808-70-2
cis-2-Methylcyclopropanol (relative stereochemistry) CAS# 34067-09-9
trans-2-Methylcyclopropanol (relative stereochemistry) CAS# 22373-64-4
(1R,2S)-2-Methylcyclopropanol (absolute stereochemistry) CAS# 1813576-02-1
(1S,2S)-2-Methylcyclopropanol (absolute stereochemistry) CAS# 1417175-73-5
(1R,2R)-2-Methylcyclopropanol (absolute stereochemistry) CAS# 1932438-98-6
(1S,2R)-2-Methylcyclopropanol (absolute stereochemistry) no CAS#
1-Buten-1-ol (undefined stereochemistry) CAS# 56640-69-8
(E)-1-Buten-1-ol CAS# 57642-98-5
(Z)-1-Buten-1-ol CAS# 57642-97-4
Butenol (undefined locations of both alcohol and double bond) CAS# 57323-59-8
1-Methylcyclopropanol CAS# 29526-99-6
Happy New Year! -- Ed (Edgar181) 00:26, 27 December 2018 (UTC)
Thanks a lot, what effective !! Happy new year ! visibly the enantiomer (1S,2R)-2-Methylcyclopropanol is difficult to imagine, to see... and I have still three questions :
Why (E)-2-butène-1-ol have two CAS numbers 504-61-0, 542-72-3 ?
Why too 3-butène-2-ol, the racemate have 598-32-3, 6118-14-5 ?
Why methoxy-2-propene have 116-11-0 and 172702-76-0 ?--Titou (talk) 12:19, 28 December 2018 (UTC)
(E)-2-butene-1-ol has CAS# 504-61-0; 542-72-3 is listed as a "Deleted CAS Registry Number" for this compound
3-Buten-2-ol has CAS# 598-32-3; 6118-14-5 is listed as a "Deleted CAS Registry Number" for this compound
2-Methoxypropene has CAS# 116-11-0; 172702-76-0 is listed as a "Deleted CAS Registry Number" for this compound
Regards, -- Ed (Edgar181) 12:56, 28 December 2018 (UTC)
Okay, thanks again --Titou (talk) 14:48, 28 December 2018 (UTC)

Happy New Year, Edgar181!

Happy New Year!

Edgar181,
Have a prosperous, productive and enjoyable New Year, and thanks for your contributions to Wikipedia.
Donner60 (talk) 07:26, 31 December 2018 (UTC)

   Send New Year cheer by adding {{subst:Happy New Year fireworks}} to user talk pages.

Thank you! Happy New Year to you as well. -- Ed (Edgar181) 12:52, 31 December 2018 (UTC)

Robert Hickey & Susan Grant

Hi Edgar. I'm actually trying to create two fictional character pages on Wikipedia. It's for a film called Writers Block. This is my first time trying to edit on Wikipedia. Could you please help me, I don't have any bad intentions at all. Just reading an article on how to create a Wikipedia page and it says I have to change the categories to Fictional, non-existent or something. Could you kindly help me? If you need more details in regards to my student film, I can email you all of that too! Thank you. Happy new year! Best Regards. Che

Simply put, you should not be using Wikipedia for this purpose. -- Ed (Edgar181) 13:50, 31 December 2018 (UTC)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cersei_Lannister — Preceding unsigned comment added by Chetankolker (talk • contribs) 13:58, 31 December 2018 (UTC)

Hi :

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cersei_Lannister

Hi, I used my own actors pictures (Joan Thorpe who played "Susan Grant" and Paul Murphy who played "Robert Hickey"). I can see there are many pages for fictional characters for tv series, films e.t.c. we are planning to enter Galway film festival, i can email you all the behind the scene pics and script if needed too. Thanks — Preceding unsigned comment added by Chetankolker (talk • contribs) 14:06, 31 December 2018 (UTC)

Wikipedia only covers notable subjects. Please see Wikipedia:Notability for details about how that is determined on Wikipedia. Also, you should have a look at Wikipedia's conflict of interest guidelines which seem to apply here. Regards, -- Ed (Edgar181) 14:10, 31 December 2018 (UTC)
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